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by Marcu$ Stanley
December 11th, 2019, 7:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1978 Vieux Château Certan
Replies: 9
Views: 513

Re: TN: 1978 Vieux Château Certan

Golodetz going to singlehandedly drive VCC over $200 / bottle...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 9th, 2019, 8:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What does "pure" mean?
Replies: 47
Views: 1468

Re: What does "pure" mean?

Maybe I am being naive but why don’t you try to contact the critic(s) that are using the word as part of their descriptors and ask them for their definition of “pure”. I did. Two have already posted in this thread. Just waiting for Jeb Dunnock to chime in. Here is his review of the 2014 Shafer Hill...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 9th, 2019, 4:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Alice Quixote rides again
Replies: 54
Views: 2013

Re: Alice Quixote rides again

My experience has not generally ben favorable with natural wines, although I've had many fine examples. I think there is far more variability in natural wines, which I would expect. My favorite story was a white Nova Scotia wine at Raymonds in St Johns Newfoundland (I forget the label). When the so...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 9th, 2019, 3:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What does "pure" mean?
Replies: 47
Views: 1468

Re: What does "pure" mean?

All sensible answers, thanks. I used to think of it as an even more vague and impressionistic synonym for "fresh" (already pretty vague). But it is becoming so ubiquitous that I have literally seen recent notes praising the purity of everything from Beaujolais to Sine Qua Non and Shafer. So what was...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 9th, 2019, 2:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What does "pure" mean?
Replies: 47
Views: 1468

What does "pure" mean?

Back in the age of Parker good wines were "ripe", "lush", "opulent" and had "good stuffing". Now good wines are "pure". You can't look at a critical review these days without seeing "pure" and praise of "purity". What does that mean? What makes a wine "pure"? The winemaker didn't spit in it or accid...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 8th, 2019, 8:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1999 Faiveley Corton-Clos des Cortons, Grand Cru
Replies: 21
Views: 1192

Re: TN: 1999 Faiveley Corton-Clos des Cortons, Grand Cru

A deep colour and still very youthful. Dark fruits are strewn with iron filings. It has a meaty edge and is powerful and brooding but does possesses elements of floral beauty. Balance is really good and it shows authority without the slightest bit of heaviness. Length is superb, and whilst it is st...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 2nd, 2019, 6:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2000 Château Haut-Bergey (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)
Replies: 8
Views: 574

Re: TN: 2000 Château Haut-Bergey (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)

Sounds lovely...some of the mid tier 2000's are really starting to show well. Thanks for the head's up. I think so. I am opening the 2000 Gruaud on Thursday but I suspect that will show much younger. I had it over the Thanksgiving holiday and it is just beginning to emerge from its slumber. A lot o...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 1st, 2019, 3:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines
Replies: 23
Views: 1602

Re: Hmmm...

Perhaps, Marcus...perhaps not. It's simply a chemical reaction process that can be manipulated by the winemaker. PaulDraper recounts going to a tasting at HankRubin's PotLuck restaurant in Berkeley (probably nobody remembers Hank/PotLuck...if you do, raise your hand) of Louis Martini wines from the...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 1st, 2019, 2:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines
Replies: 23
Views: 1602

Re: Perhaps...PerhapsNot...

To me the ultimate experience in "natural wine" is aged wine. Aging is a completely natural process, very poorly understood by science. Corporations cannot manipulate it and people have no technical control over it outside of storing the wine at the proper temperature. No method of winemaking is ev...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 1st, 2019, 9:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Some thoughts on premium pinot pricing
Replies: 69
Views: 4176

Re: Some thoughts on premium pinot pricing

Kind of funny to read this thread after buying some of these California bottlings at a third to a half of the prices mentioned when they were recently blown out on Winebid. Also, I am always confused when people imply that it is somehow possible to "turn down the volume" on California pinot and magi...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 1st, 2019, 9:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines
Replies: 23
Views: 1602

Re: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines

To me the ultimate experience in "natural wine" is aged wine. Aging is a completely natural process, very poorly understood by science. Corporations cannot manipulate it and people have no technical control over it outside of storing the wine at the proper temperature. No method of winemaking is eve...
by Marcu$ Stanley
December 1st, 2019, 9:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines
Replies: 23
Views: 1602

Re: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines

I thought this was a very good article. It is very honest about the way in which "natural wines" are a way of placing yourself culturally and sociologically and might not have anything to do with the wine making method itself. I thought this was particularly funny: "wine was for lawyer dads who brag...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 30th, 2019, 9:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The Legend - 1969 Chappellet
Replies: 15
Views: 1385

Re: The Legend - 1969 Chappellet

Togni isn’t exactly obscure or inexpensive, but I still think it’s underrated. One of the very greatest California Cabernets, or indeed Cabernets from anywhere, and one of the very few American wines that can share a table with top aged French wines and still stand out as among the best. Yet it’s un...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 28th, 2019, 11:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2009 Fort Ross Pinot Noir Fort Ross Vineyard
Replies: 6
Views: 448

Re: TN: 2009 Fort Ross Pinot Noir Fort Ross Vineyard

Not to rain on the parade but I had the 2010 of this a couple of years ago and found it much too big and heavy for my taste
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 26th, 2019, 3:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has anybody started trying Bordeaux 2005s? What are your views?
Replies: 65
Views: 3227

Re: Has anybody started trying Bordeaux 2005s? What are your views?

I have had some bad 2005 right bank wines, but Conseillante is fantastic and has been for a while.
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 23rd, 2019, 8:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo: no more need to wait forever and a day
Replies: 86
Views: 4042

Re: Barolo: no more need to wait forever and a day

8-20 years is a good guide. Not sure I'd agree that terroir is blurred by age, though. The very top Burgundy GCs are often smoothered by new oak when young only to reveal themselves with age. 8-20 years would imply that 96s and 98s are now in decline; do people really find that to be true? I find t...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 19th, 2019, 8:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Léoville-Poyferré 2003
Replies: 15
Views: 1122

Re: Léoville-Poyferré 2003

Julian, I did not have enough 2003 Bordeaux recently to make a proper list but enjoyed LP, Leoville Barton, Sociando Mallet, Giscours, Duhart Milon, Moulin St. Georges and even Chateau d´Aiguilhe from memory over the last 12 month. What I still remember is the large blind tasting of 2003 Bordeaux f...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 19th, 2019, 8:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2003 Château Gruaud Larose (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, St. Julien)
Replies: 10
Views: 443

Re: TN: 2003 Château Gruaud Larose (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, St. Julien)

2003 Château Gruaud Larose - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, St. Julien (11/19/2019) 4th time I have had this wine. The last was in 2013. I bought half a case on futures for $39 per bottle. 66% Cabernet Sauvignon, 22% Merlot, 6% Cabernet Franc, 5% Petit Verdot and 1% Malbec. Not decanted. Deep red color. ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 17th, 2019, 1:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3294

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

My first observation is that there is no requirement of an educated palate in discerning good/bad wines objectively or subjectively (if that is even a major thing... subjective/objective dichotomy). Years of drinking wine amongst highly trained and novice palates has taught me that if we taste wine...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 17th, 2019, 9:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3294

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

Is there any contradiction in doubting whether wine can be "objectively" good or bad (outside of obvious flaws), but still thinking that people can have good or bad taste when it comes to wine?
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 17th, 2019, 9:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3294

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

I would say yes there are objectively good and bad wines. First, as mentioned, flaws. If the wine has bacteria problems, is re-fermenting, has TCA, is cooked, etc. Second there are wines that are just bad, as there is food that is just bad. Henry mentioned it. But I made cookies the other day. Butt...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 15th, 2019, 2:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: And the Wine Spectator Wine of the Year is . . .
Replies: 58
Views: 5665

Re: And the Wine Spectator Wine of the Year is . . .

My impression of several decades of following this silliness is that the real impact of the WS top spot for a bottling is to raise the prices in following vintages in a sustained fashion . Sometimes sticks, sometime doesn’t but they always try- usually 25-30%. It would kind of suck if that happened...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 15th, 2019, 12:56 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: And the Wine Spectator Wine of the Year is . . .
Replies: 58
Views: 5665

Re: And the Wine Spectator Wine of the Year is . . .

LOL, now it's like $30 more expensive than the 2016 Pichon Baron. I like LB but I would pick PB over LB any day of the week It all comes down to personal preference, but when I tasted both side by side at UGC, I thought the LB was the better of the two. Who knows if that will still be true in 20 ye...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 15th, 2019, 12:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: And the Wine Spectator Wine of the Year is . . .
Replies: 58
Views: 5665

Re: And the Wine Spectator Wine of the Year is . . .

Wine.com is selling it for $169.99 with a 3 bottle limit per customer lol. K&L added the 2019 #1 note below the reviews and bumped it up to $179 The beauty of Google Cached pages: November 9: leoville-nov-9.png November 15, after WS #1 announcement: leoville-11-15.png LOL, now it's like $30 more ex...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 15th, 2019, 12:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: And the Wine Spectator Wine of the Year is . . .
Replies: 58
Views: 5665

Re: And the Wine Spectator Wine of the Year is . . .

Looks like it's the 2016 Leoville Barton. I enjoyed the 15 quite a lot. Haven't had this yet. Here's the summary from WS: "For its emblematic representation of Bordeaux, emphasis on a great price for a wine of such high quality, incredibly consistent track record and long-running family ownership, ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 15th, 2019, 12:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's critic bingo! (Black Forest cake and tapenade)
Replies: 866
Views: 41773

Re: It's critic bingo! (Black Forest cake and tapenade)

I'd say the words are holding their own: 2015 Spottswoode Cabernet Sauvignon WA 100 "The 2015 Cabernet Sauvignon is deep garnet-purple colored with a mind-blowingly gorgeous nose that defies words: warm cassis, red roses, sandalwood, Indian spices, crushed rocks, menthol and iron ore with waft of l...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 14th, 2019, 9:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wines helped by climate change
Replies: 45
Views: 1383

Re: Wines helped by climate change

Burgundy? [pile-on.gif] It's a razors edge type situation and it's very hard to distinguish the effects of greater resources and winemaking skill from climate, but has Burgundy ever seen a run of good to great vintages like 2002 to the present? I guess a lot will depend on what you think about 2009/...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 9th, 2019, 4:41 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Thoughts on Buying and Consuming BURGUNDY
Replies: 132
Views: 13623

Re: Thoughts on Buying and Consuming BURGUNDY

Hi guys first post here . Nice to meet you all . What do you guys think of the argument someone makes : burgundy is too expensive I drink barolo and barbaresco instead ?? Fine, but Barbaresco is a totally different wine than Burgundy. Just because wines are light bodied or high acidity doesn’t make...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 8th, 2019, 9:16 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Bordeaux with 10-20 years and < $100
Replies: 45
Views: 2107

Re: Bordeaux with 10-20 years and < $100

There are so many great Bordeaux that can be backfilled for under $100. If you are looking to minimize your expenditure while getting a really good wine there are lots of good suggestions here. But honestly, if you are looking to maximize your wine value for under $100/bottle then the two wines you ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 7th, 2019, 5:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2015 Domaine de Chevalier (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)
Replies: 28
Views: 1584

Re: TN: 2015 Domaine de Chevalier (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)

Pat Martin wrote:
November 7th, 2019, 3:25 pm
Gloss is the word here.
Exactly.
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 7th, 2019, 9:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2015 Domaine de Chevalier (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)
Replies: 28
Views: 1584

Re: TN: 2015 Domaine de Chevalier (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)

It was a new kind of modern, but one I'm experiencing more and more. Not over-alcoholic, ostentatiously oaky, or over-extracted but instead a very smooth, polished international style. Wish I knew what winemaking techniques were being used to create that effect.
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 7th, 2019, 9:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2015 Domaine de Chevalier (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)
Replies: 28
Views: 1584

Re: TN: 2015 Domaine de Chevalier (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)

I tried this wine after reading Levenberg's note, expecting it to be fantastic, and I was disappointed. I would completely agree with David that it is modern -- very modern, hyper-modern. It isn't the clumsy over-extracted type of "modern" but instead was incredibly smooth, polished, slick, and suav...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 4th, 2019, 12:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Eleven Madison Park wine
Replies: 57
Views: 5429

Re: Eleven Madison Park wine

Pairings on our last visit.... Caviar Souffle with Clam, Leek and Potato Pascal Doquet, Coeur de Terroir, Verus, Blanc de Blancs, Champagne 2005 Foie Gras seared with Maple & Apple Ch. Guiraud, Sauternes 2002 Lobster charred with Pumpkin & Citrus Sandhi, Rita's Crown, Chardonnay, Sta. Rita Hills, C...
by Marcu$ Stanley
November 3rd, 2019, 3:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2004 Château Montrose (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, St. Estèphe)
Replies: 24
Views: 1474

Re: TN: 2004 Château Montrose (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, St. Estèphe)

I didn't buy nearly enough 2002s, but I did get three bottles of Mouton for the aforementioned $90, and some Cos d'Estournel for $35. That was the "freedom fries" vintage where anti-French sentiment was at its peak and Parker didn't even visit for the en primeur...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 27th, 2019, 5:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "What the . . . Where TF did this come from?"
Replies: 40
Views: 2454

Re: "What the . . . Where TF did this come from?"

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 27th, 2019, 1:45 pm
And these do have that garagiste "the Petrus of the Balearic Islands" stench.
[snort.gif]
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 27th, 2019, 5:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would you consider technology use to be "natural?"
Replies: 41
Views: 1705

Re: Would you consider technology use to be "natural?"

All "natural wine" marketing depends on consumers not really understanding how many technological choices are involved in winemaking and how much winemaking has been totally transformed by modern technology. Temperature control, stainless steel, modern mechanical crushers, automatic pumping over...t...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 27th, 2019, 3:37 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The polemic St-Emilion Pavie 2003
Replies: 53
Views: 2555

Re: The polemic St-Emilion Pavie 2003

What does AFWE mean ? It stands for "Anti Flavor Wine Elitists". It was an ironic title people who preferred less over-extracted / alcoholic / overripe wines adopted for themselves after Parker accused people who didn't like big wines as being somehow against flavor and against wines that tasted go...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 27th, 2019, 9:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The polemic St-Emilion Pavie 2003
Replies: 53
Views: 2555

Re: The polemic St-Emilion Pavie 2003

Jeff Leve loves this wine, let's see if he wants to bother with internet polemics about it (wouldn't blame him if he took a pass honestly). Never had the 03 Pavie myself but I have noticed that a lot of overextracted pruney right bank wines (not just Pavie) seem to get inflated ratings. Despite the ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 24th, 2019, 9:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Blind tasting of 12 Bordeaux blends
Replies: 5
Views: 850

Re: Blind tasting of 12 Bordeaux blends

Yeah, it's a shame about the 03 L-B as based on my own experience I would expect that wine to basically blow away everything else in the tasting.
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 19th, 2019, 9:36 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2002 La Pousse d'Or Volnay 1er Cru Clos de la Bousse d'Or
Replies: 4
Views: 360

Re: TN: 2002 La Pousse d'Or Volnay 1er Cru Clos de la Bousse d'Or

This was my Burgundy epiphany wine, so it has cost me a lot of money since. That was almost ten years ago. It was great then too, although I’m sure fruitier and more exuberant. Still the best Pousse I’ve ever had. Still have a few bottles tucked away
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 13th, 2019, 1:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help me understand primary, secondary, tertiary characteristics
Replies: 71
Views: 2678

Re: Help me understand primary, secondary, tertiary characteristics

Ok but in a TN are people not talking about stages of development? If I say I get red fruit, earth and hints of oak. But with 12 years this wine is definitely showing secondary characteristics. Do u interpret that as definitely has wine making flavors. Or it’s secondary stage of development? I thin...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 9th, 2019, 12:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help me understand primary, secondary, tertiary characteristics
Replies: 71
Views: 2678

Re: Help me understand primary, secondary, tertiary characteristics

Hmm...to me, more 'development' is seen in secondary than just oak, malo, lees, etc - to me, secondary is when the oak starts to integrate (for example) but the fruit is still bright. I apply those terms in the same way Chris just described. Primary - young fresh fruit Secondary - integration has h...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 9th, 2019, 10:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help me understand primary, secondary, tertiary characteristics
Replies: 71
Views: 2678

Re: Help me understand primary, secondary, tertiary characteristics

I see this terminology a lot. I have only a very basic idea of what is being talked about. I am looking to go beyond this basic understanding to being able to recognize the characteristic(s) as they present themselves in a wine. I have a perhaps naive idea that a tasting of a few wines could be str...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 6th, 2019, 6:37 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 767
Views: 38430

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

I think your math seems off. Let us say wine sold from France to US for $10. Wholesaler sells to retailer for $15. Retailer sells for $20 (wouldn’t this be low retailer markup?). Wouldn’t tariff be $2.50. So, it would not be 25% of retail, would it? And, why would it be fair for the retailer and cu...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 6th, 2019, 6:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is 2000 Bordeaux actually approachable now?
Replies: 45
Views: 1465

Re: Is 2000 Bordeaux actually approachable now?

I opened a 2000 Pichon Baron a couple of months ago for a wine dinner, and it was wine of the night against some very strong competition, e.g. the 1989 Lynch Bages. It was absolutely sensational, the fruit was vivid and electric and alive and no longer constrained by tannins or distorted by oak. No ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 5th, 2019, 8:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Winebid revised.....
Replies: 76
Views: 6348

Re: Winebid revised.....

I am done with them after they shipped out my wine without asking me in the middle of the recent heat wave (last week).
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 4th, 2019, 10:31 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 767
Views: 38430

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

I just spoke to K&L about my pre-arrivals, and they intend to honor the price originally paid by the customer on all pre-arrivals, even those impacted by the tariff. Quality outfit. Just got email from Zachy’s saying there changing the language and gonna hit me with the extra tariff. They also said...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 4th, 2019, 10:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Eyeing a possible recession, California wineries cut back on production — and farmers suffer: SF Chronicle
Replies: 29
Views: 1746

Re: Eyeing a possible recession, California wineries cut back on production — and farmers suffer: SF Chronicle

The Gallo-Constellation deal was for only $1.7 million? For 30 brands? So $50,000 a brand? Either that's an error or the wine business must be very low margin
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 4th, 2019, 8:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating
Replies: 10
Views: 965

Re: shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating

Given the shortness of the heat, and the thermal mass of the styrofoam shipper, your wine should be OK. that's my hope, but 1) don't know if there was a styro shipper at all, and 2) if it's OK to just stick aged pinot in the back of a truck for delivery on a 90+ degree day, then why don't we all ju...
by Marcu$ Stanley
October 4th, 2019, 4:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating
Replies: 10
Views: 965

shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating

Months ago I bought some of the older Copain pinots that were going for a song on Winebid. I told them to ship when the weather was good, and then forgot about it, assuming they would check temps before shipping. Well, they checked the date but not the temperatures -- they shipped it out earlier thi...

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