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by Marcu$ Stanley
February 28th, 2021, 1:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Worst Critic (not named Parker)?
Replies: 158
Views: 13312

Re: Worst Critic (not named Parker)?

How have I read this far, and not seen the name Jeb Dunnuck? Not even close to winning this award, one of the top FIVE, active, knowledgeable wine critics, globally today! Go to his website, possible answer to your question there. Well, he's definitely one of the top FIVE Suckling-esque point infla...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 26th, 2021, 2:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine's naturalistic fallacy
Replies: 146
Views: 5555

Re: Wine's naturalistic fallacy

Well, I think what this illustrates is how the impulses to which you advert came to be encapsulated in the repurposed one-word concept of "terroir", and quite recently at that. Such narratives have certainly always existed in competition with the more universalized concept of the "br...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 26th, 2021, 2:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine's naturalistic fallacy
Replies: 146
Views: 5555

Re: Wine's naturalistic fallacy

But terroir is the expression of somewhereness. Now this is a really interesting point, if looked at in its historical dimensions. Of course, there is a long and fascinating history of people distinguishing between sites on the basis of the characteristic textures and flavors they have tended to im...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 23rd, 2021, 2:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine's naturalistic fallacy
Replies: 146
Views: 5555

Re: Wine's naturalistic fallacy

As soon as I saw the author and title of this, I knew it was going to be great, and it is. William artfully dodges direct engagement in the old "natural wines" fight, but of course this is directly relevant to that debate, as the the fundamental conceptual incoherence in the "natural ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 20th, 2021, 9:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Asimov on vintages
Replies: 69
Views: 3753

Re: Asimov on vintages

This was a good article that replicates a lot of the wisdom you get as an experienced wine collector who actually drinks the stuff. For example, I have gotten significantly more pleasure over my wine drinking life from 2004 Bordeaux than from 2005 Bordeaux. Maybe one day it will even out but it's no...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 20th, 2021, 9:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Have wine auction lots become much more scarce....?
Replies: 187
Views: 10012

Re: Have wine auction lots become much more scarce....?

Try this one then Sotheby’s lot 162 Recently closed 12 bottles Beychevelle 1975 STILL CANNOT BELIEVE THIS $5000 ITB Lots of head-scratchers in that auction, especially on not-uncommon, easy to find Bordeaux. E.g. 2009 Lynch Bages for $365/bottle for a case, when individual bottles are widely availa...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 19th, 2021, 9:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy aging rule of thumb
Replies: 39
Views: 2802

Re: Burgundy aging rule of thumb

Village wines and 1er crus don't tend to take much less time to reach maturity than grand crus. If you want to drink mature Burgundy you're looking at a minimum 20 years whether it's Clos des Ursules or Clos de Beze. Alan's "triple the critics" is probably about as good a rule of thumb as...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 15th, 2021, 5:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Young vine wines that are epic
Replies: 73
Views: 4231

Re: Young vine wines that are epic

I just think there's too much over-emphasis on these slightly intangible things in wine. It comes down, again, to what Sean Thackrey refers to as "real estate protection". That just from this soil, this plot, this altitude, these vine ages, this climate, this row spacing, can you truly ge...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 15th, 2021, 4:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Young vine wines that are epic
Replies: 73
Views: 4231

Re: Young vine wines that are epic

Young vines produce very fruit forward wines. I believe you Marcus, but it'll be very hard for the average consumer to pick that out. In a blind tasting of young vs. old vine wine from the same (or very close) vineyard, similar clones, similar vine maintenance/harvesting, same vintage, same winemak...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 15th, 2021, 9:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The 100 point scale is pretty useless.
Replies: 204
Views: 9425

Re: The 100 point scale is pretty useless.

To me how many 100s critics give out is less of an issue, then how few 80s through 85s and how this has corrupted the whole system. I am still decrying the problem of score inflation but if a wine gets a score in the high 90s or a 100, the critic most likely liked the wine a whole lot, and though t...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 15th, 2021, 9:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The 100 point scale is pretty useless.
Replies: 204
Views: 9425

Re: The 100 point scale is pretty useless.

I certainly understand the comments. High score generates interest, low scores do not. How long do you think a newsletter would last that scored on the same basis as a school GPA with only a small percentage getting As and a tiny percentage of those getting A+ Gillman is not a big scorer, neither i...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 15th, 2021, 9:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Young vine wines that are epic
Replies: 73
Views: 4231

Re: Young vine wines that are epic

Do winemakers use a different style in making wines from old vines though? Is there more you can do with the grapes? Or is that subjective / a myth too?
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 15th, 2021, 8:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy aging rule of thumb
Replies: 39
Views: 2802

Re: Burgundy aging rule of thumb

"mature" is a subjective and not an objective judgement. Different people will have different tastes for when in a wine's aging course they want to drink it. I think for Bordeaux it's much more predictable when a wine is "shut down" in that the great majority of drinkers would no...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 15th, 2021, 8:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Young vine wines that are epic
Replies: 73
Views: 4231

Re: Young vine wines that are epic

How much replanting was done in Napa in the 90s due to phylloxera? Weren't there great wines made on young vines because of that? I know Togni replanted in the early-mid 90s and made some great wines. But I don't know the fraction of vines that were young etc.
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 14th, 2021, 11:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1978 Charles Krug Cabernet Sauvignon ‘Special Selection’
Replies: 8
Views: 501

Re: 1978 Charles Krug Cabernet Sauvignon ‘Special Selection’

Thanks for posting this, very interesting to me since I got a case of this wine in very good condition (9 bottles have fills into the neck) at a reasonable price from the recent Phelps cellar auction. I probably overdid it since I doubt I can drink a case before the wine is completely shot. But I fi...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 14th, 2021, 11:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy aging rule of thumb
Replies: 39
Views: 2802

Re: Burgundy aging rule of thumb

I find simple aging rules of thumb to be extremely useful and mostly accurate for Bordeaux, but almost useless for Burgundy. About all you can say is that soon after the vintage date it will be fruity and open, and then at an indeterminate point after the vintage date it will shut down, stay closed ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 12th, 2021, 10:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Napa recs for lover of cooler climate wines
Replies: 42
Views: 1893

Re: Napa recs for lover of cooler climate wines

I never really found Lagier Meredith to be that "cool climate", yes it's not ripe beefed up stereotypical California syrah but not quite cool either, sort of in the middle.

For Syrah, I would say Copain post-2008 and Halcon stand out as very cool climate styled.
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 12th, 2021, 10:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: More Auction Insanity
Replies: 33
Views: 2145

Re: More Auction Insanity

LOL you could pretty much buy the DRC Corton or Echezeaux from a great vintage at retail for that.

$90 at release, average Cellartracker score 88.6 points, la la la the beat goes on...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 12th, 2021, 6:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Top WHITE Burgundy vintage of the 21st Century so far
Replies: 44
Views: 2414

Re: Top WHITE Burgundy vintage of the 21st Century so far

I posted TNs on some 2014s and 2007s just the other day. Three of the former were “shut down” so I’m not surprised by cellartracker notes not being effusive across the board. We take such periods in our strides as normal with reds, so I’m fine with it with whites too; indeed it can be a good indica...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 11th, 2021, 8:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Top WHITE Burgundy vintage of the 21st Century so far
Replies: 44
Views: 2414

Re: Top WHITE Burgundy vintage of the 21st Century so far

Just as a casual observer of tasting notes, one thing I have noticed about 2014 is that the greatness is not as evident in Cellartracker notes where people evaluate the wines. Usually for red wines there are very sharp differences in the scores you see for the greatest vintages compared to the surro...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 11th, 2021, 6:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Throwing in the towel - a study
Replies: 46
Views: 3684

Re: Throwing in the towel - a study

Come on- it’s an interesting topic. Let the poor OP be. And quite honestly I don’t use whinging as often as wanker and my particular favorite, Scouse Git. No worries Mark. Whining is one of our most time honored traditions here at WB [wink.gif] [wink.gif] But seriously, it is a genuine curiosity fo...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 7th, 2021, 11:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2016 Pichon Baron $165
Replies: 11
Views: 1393

Re: 2016 Pichon Baron $165

It's a fair price but be aware that this wine needs at least a decade of additional sleep before you will get your money's worth.
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 7th, 2021, 7:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best Value Wine Region for Great Wine?
Replies: 128
Views: 6407

Re: Best Value Wine Region for Great Wine?

Bordeaux is the best value region in the world for red wine and it's not really close. Especially if you're willing to age the wines. I can't count the number of times I've tried a trendy new "value" wine, often costing $35 to $45 because that's what people try to define as "value&quo...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 7th, 2021, 7:34 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2012 Les Halos de Jupiter Châteauneuf-du-Pape Adrastee
Replies: 7
Views: 312

Re: TN: 2012 Les Halos de Jupiter Châteauneuf-du-Pape Adrastee

you shouldn't be allowed to name your wine "Les Halos de Jupiter" unless it's really good and has a proven track record of such. Too dramatic a name, false advertising.
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 7th, 2021, 6:47 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1985 Olga Raffault Chinon Les Picasses rouge
Replies: 14
Views: 659

Re: TN: 1985 Olga Raffault Chinon Les Picasses rouge

Love how Raffault does regular library releases so you can taste properly aged properly stored wines. I recently had the 1990 and it was very good. I found it a little rustic to reach the very top tier of wines but it had wonderful complexity, balance, and character
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 6th, 2021, 4:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Acker auction last night -- 1985 Dujac CdlR for $131K
Replies: 21
Views: 2498

Re: Acker auction last night -- 1985 Dujac CdlR for $131K

I can’t remember the exact range but remember noticing that the projected max was like $70k (before fees), so not cheap lol
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 6th, 2021, 9:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2015 Bouchard Père et Fils Nuits St. Georges
Replies: 8
Views: 439

Re: TN: 2015 Bouchard Père et Fils Nuits St. Georges

Bouchard reds are definitely zaftig, but they are very reliably substantial and fun to drink. I got a few 2015 Bouchard villages, the Gevrey-Chambertin and Vosne-Romanee, and they were really good if young. Will last a long time. Unfortunately as elsewhere in Burgundy the price has been rising sharp...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 6th, 2021, 9:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Acker auction last night -- 1985 Dujac CdlR for $131K
Replies: 21
Views: 2498

Acker auction last night -- 1985 Dujac CdlR for $131K

I spectated the Acker auction as a tourist last night, and saw a case of 1985 Dujac Clos de la Roche (I think it was CldR) go for $131,000 all in [wow.gif]. ($105K bid plus 25% fee). The case didn't even seem to be in perfectly pristine condition either, a lot of 3 to 4 cm fills and label markings. ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 6th, 2021, 7:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Your ideal alcohol level for a medium/full bodied red?
Replies: 168
Views: 4977

Re: Your ideal alcohol level for a medium/full bodied red?

Alcohol levels are an important consideration for me in buying a wine. I won’t touch 15+, prefer 12.5 or 13, but some right bank Bordeaux have been pulling me above the 14% level more than I previously preferred. I don’t believe the “doesn’t matter as long as it’s balanced” mantra, higher alcohol ma...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 5th, 2021, 10:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Some 2007 White Burgs and the 2014 Blain Gagnard Grand Crus
Replies: 13
Views: 723

Re: TN: Some 2007 White Burgs and the 2014 Blain Gagnard Grand Crus

Thanks for the notes. I have some 2014 Gagnard-Delagrange but not Blain Gagnard, does anyone know if there is a relation / similarity between the producers? Thanks
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 3rd, 2021, 12:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The 100 point scale is pretty useless.
Replies: 204
Views: 9425

Re: The 100 point scale is pretty useless.

I agree with this and basically no longer score wines. What I am looking for from a tasting note is a clear and deep description of the person's encounter with the wine. If you loved it, if it stood out to you as exceptional as compared to other wines, just tell us that and tell us why you feel that...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 3rd, 2021, 12:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Recommended Wine Books
Replies: 31
Views: 1522

Re: Recommended Wine Books

Highly recommend "Postmodern Winemaking" by Clark Smith. You probably won't agree with all of it but it really rewrote how I thought about winemaking.
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 2nd, 2021, 7:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Have wine auction lots become much more scarce....?
Replies: 187
Views: 10012

Re: Have wine auction lots become much more scarce....?

Given that the same sold for far less on Winebid in the last couple of months, this was definitely the price that the seller was asking rather than the price Winebid assigned. I can't blame anyone for willing to pay what they want, but I agree with you all- a bit of research could have made the bid...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 2nd, 2021, 2:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What Causes The "Cola" Aroma in Some Pinot Noirs?
Replies: 60
Views: 3528

Re: What Causes The "Cola" Aroma in Some Pinot Noirs?

Also, I really dislike that cola element, to me it's fine for half a glass but quickly becomes tiresome and then actively negative. Of all the reasons I (like basically the entire wine market) am willing to pay twice as much for good Burgundy as good California, that cola element is pretty high on t...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 2nd, 2021, 1:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What Causes The "Cola" Aroma in Some Pinot Noirs?
Replies: 60
Views: 3528

Re: What Causes The "Cola" Aroma in Some Pinot Noirs?

Oak, acid and vanilla equals Kola. The oak provides the vanilla and spice, acid provides the “citrus”. I realize that you don’t need high acid for this aroma but any acid will help provide it. Add in some very ripe fruit and kola aromas emerge. Keep in mind that while many think it is a negative, o...
by Marcu$ Stanley
February 1st, 2021, 12:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Jeb Dunnuck really loves 2018 Napa
Replies: 104
Views: 7583

Re: Jeb Dunnuck really loves 2018 Napa

I mean, let’s do some math. 30 perfect scores out of 1600 wines is less than 2% (1.875 to be exact). In a quality vintage like 2018 in Napa, that’s well within the normal bell curve. I know some folks get a hard on to rip apart critics scoring on this website, but still, that % seems legit. Now if ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 29th, 2021, 3:40 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Zachy's Wine Auctions
Replies: 20
Views: 1885

Re: Zachy's Wine Auctions

This is rather disappointing as I think an auction house should have a minimum condition standard below which they won't sell a wine. Signs of seepage could mean a lot of things, there should be a minimum expectation for a wine you're selling. Personally, I'll buy wines with label conditions or, for...
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 26th, 2021, 7:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2013 Bouchard Père et Fils Corton-Le Corton
Replies: 6
Views: 575

Re: TN: 2013 Bouchard Père et Fils Corton-Le Corton

Really love this wine, it's stayed around $100 and now represents really good value. I've never found it less than good/solid and in certain vintages it excels -- I really enjoyed the 2005 (incredibly rich and deep) and the 2009 (exotic while still being very Burgundy).
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 26th, 2021, 7:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Drinking History and Aeration
Replies: 7
Views: 480

Re: Wine Drinking History and Aeration

I have literally never had a wine that was "better the next day" after being open. If you're groping for "better the next day" it just means you opened a wine waaaaay too young and it's so tannic it literally tastes better oxidized than shut down!
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 25th, 2021, 6:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ever had Reynvaan Vineyards?
Replies: 33
Views: 2037

Re: Ever had Reynvaan Vineyards?

Going to give a bit of a dissenting view here - I had a bottle of Reynvaan while on vacation in Washington and found them too sweet. Very drinkable, not bad, but a bit alcoholic at the edges and excessively sweet. But I am a total Francophile and have this reaction to a lot of California and Washing...
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 18th, 2021, 6:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century
Replies: 75
Views: 3354

Re: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century

Ha, funny you should mention Poyferre as I also thought the 2009 Poyferre was pretty bad. But I think that is more about Poyferre than 2009 -- they always overdo their wines and try to make a right bank wine on the left bank. I usually find them overrated.
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 18th, 2021, 5:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
Replies: 211
Views: 11247

Re: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far

In my limited experience 2015 shut down in a way that 2009 didn't -- 2015 is "tougher" than 09. It does seem to me people are underrating both 2002 and 2009 a bit. But maybe it's just how good 2010 is that is sucking away votes from every other vintage.
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 18th, 2021, 5:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century
Replies: 75
Views: 3354

Re: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century

I favor the earlier vintages. I think the jury is still out on the more recent. I actually loved 2004, more classic to my tastes, underrated, can find it for a fair price, and it ages well. 2005 was over-ripe and the more recent have been more hit and miss inconsistent for being over-done. 2000 is ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 18th, 2021, 5:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: POLL: Top vintage for red Bordeaux 1980 - 1999
Replies: 51
Views: 2757

Re: Top vintage for red Bordeaux 1980 - 1999

The high votes for 1990 here speak well of 2009, which I think of as a modern day 1990. It is certainly the most 1990-ish vintage of the 21st century.
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 17th, 2021, 4:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
Replies: 211
Views: 11247

Re: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far

another here who thinks 2002 is terrific, although I had to vote for 2010. I would put 2002 second, has so much charm.

Surprised to see 2014-15-16 all getting equal votes
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 17th, 2021, 4:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century
Replies: 75
Views: 3354

Re: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century

Glad to see all these votes for 2000, which was underestimated for many years IMO

I'm with John Gilman in thinking 2010 quite overrated.
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 17th, 2021, 12:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century
Replies: 75
Views: 3354

Re: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century

Yeah, the reason I would want to choose both 2000 and 2009 is that one is more structured/classic and the other is more lush/seductive. Don't make me choose just one :-)!
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 17th, 2021, 11:31 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century
Replies: 75
Views: 3354

Re: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century

It is a tie between 2000 and 2009 for me (unfortunately poll did not let you pick two). I think it is far too early to annoint 2016 and I haven't been blown away by what I've tasted of it either -- people talking about 2016 seem to be perhaps overly influenced by critics, who have a big bias to pump...
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 16th, 2021, 9:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Progress of 2010 Bordeaux
Replies: 14
Views: 1585

Re: Progress of 2010 Bordeaux

Before the world shut down for Covid I was going to a lot of vertical tastings, and for upper-end Bordeaux the 2009s were universally far more pleasurable than the 2010s. I think 2009 is going to be a vintage that never really shuts down (obviously the wines are still young and not showing all they ...
by Marcu$ Stanley
January 9th, 2021, 7:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1999 d'Arenberg Shiraz The Dead Arm
Replies: 19
Views: 1444

Re: TN: 1999 d'Arenberg Shiraz The Dead Arm

Yeah I had the 2001 a couple of years ago and it was holding up great

Kind of a “soft” plummy wine, very far from northern Rhone style, but quite good for what it is

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