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2015 Durant Madrone block Splash decanted. Sweet red fruit, dense raspberry, cherry. Warm baking spices, with a slightly earthy finish. Young, but enjoyable and fun to drink now. May not be the most sophisticated of the bottlings but it does not lack for enjoyment and flavor! Just the way that bloc...

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: ↑April 16th, 2021, 6:18 pm
Rodrigo B wrote: ↑April 16th, 2021, 6:16 pm
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: ↑April 16th, 2021, 5:57 pm What is BWE?
I'm guessing Richard is referring to the Bordeaux Wine Enthusiast forum
Oh, no wonder I've never heard of it.

Thanks. Carry on.

I thought it was LVF. Lesser Varieties Forum.

I think they dined in their hotel restaurant, but haven't read which hotel. -Al Al was correct. Which at first I thought no way. The Skirvin & Colcord (normal NBA lodging spots) don’t have wine lists like this. I totally forgot about the Omni opening up in the last couple months. They were at t...

J. Cohen wrote: ↑April 14th, 2021, 3:07 pm 5k shockingly not too bad for restaurant pricing. Although for a 15’, the recommended drinking dates are 2027-2035+

They don't say the price paid. Just says that La Tache can start at $5,000.

Astoria doesn’t have a resort per se and is on the river near the ocean, but has great food and a good vibe all around, and great beer to boot. Cannery Pier is a good hotel on the pier there. There's a Bosnian restaurant in Astoria that's on my hit list. I have heard great reviews. https://drinadai...

If you're looking for something on the coast I have heard this place is really nice: https://www.whalecoveinn.com/ It’s a beautiful spot. Crazy beautiful. I don’t think it would be considered a spa. Great views and such. A couple of years back I had an amazing meal at the restaurant there, Beck. Th...

Todd Hamina wrote: ↑April 11th, 2021, 5:43 pm This place, though I haven't been to it... https://www.headlandslodge.com/

I do love Pacific City, but expect it to be crowded.

When my right hand guy here at the winery got married a couple years back we all chipped in on a gift certificate to that place. They REALLY liked it.

Pre/Post Willamette is there a good spa / relaxing resort to just totally chill out for a few days? Planning to go Portland to Willamette to Oregon coast up to Olympic National Park. Have a ton of driving and would really want to just zone out at some place with really good food for two days. If yo...

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Fred Bower wrote: ↑April 9th, 2021, 7:59 am 7 posts in and no discussion of helicopter parking accommodations?

Friday fun

Cheers,
fred

While we are mostly not in the private dinner business we do have a spot where a helicopter could land.

As far as I’m aware, the Bollinger family remains the sole owners of Société Jacques Bollinger SA (SJB), the holding company that owns most of their assets. I’m oversimplifying it a bit, but individual family members of the Bollinger family own shares in SJB (either directly or indirectly), and SJB...

Hiyu does dinners at their winery with food all grown on the farm. Big Table used to do the same, but I’m not sure if they still do/are right now from COVID. Both are high on my list of want to dos Think the OP is asking after a private dinner, not a list of wineries that have dinner series that ar...

Bollinger has a bunch of investors, and it’s taking money from the first investors to buy the winery, then attracting new investors and using their money to pay a return to those original investors, and then getting still more investors ... As far as I’m aware, the Bollinger family remains the sole...

Here you go!!!

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Be curious as to the amount of dough involved.

I do have a story that I likely should not tell in public that would be related, tangentially, to this.

Seems to be a different sort of reaction to this than when KJ buys stuff up here. Just saying.

Most good/great wines are not filtered. Have no idea what the premise of this thread is. This is just completely wrong. A tremendous number of white wines are filtered because...they have to be. Any wine that does not complete ML is (or should be) filtered. Tons of white wines across the globe fall...

OMFG. 2x in this.

The nose can sometimes fool you, but I have yet to taste an American pinot without a confected sweet finish. [scratch.gif] Not sure what you’re drinking, but you won’t get that in my wines. You will get plenty of tannins and acidity... Small sample size? Cheap stuff? CA only? Not sure what to make ...

If you irrigate with water from a well located in/adjacent to the vineyard are you impacting the terroir differently than if the water is from a site miles away? What if the water is from a public source and has been treated with chemicals? Been attempting to not say anything here, but this seems p...

Chateau de Chasselas with a nice cigar. Then again, when I say cigar I mean a wad of rotten vegetation wrapped in an old, used piece of mimeograph paper. Still, a cigar to me.

Which fact? Ok - consulting wine maker Louis Michel. 😂 Anyhow, You get my question tho right? Anyone had these, and Does R&A come close to replicating the magic that is clb? There’s a difference, you realize, yes? He’s 5,300 miles away harvesting at almost the exact same time. What would you ex...

Has anyone had Roses & Arrow Pinots from Oregon? It's made by Louis Michel Liger Belair... the wines seem really expensive.. but do they have the magic fairy crack dust that Comte liger belair wines seems to have? I’d fact check that statement. Which fact? Ok - consulting wine maker Louis Miche...

Mark Y wrote: ↑April 1st, 2021, 8:31 pm Has anyone had Roses & Arrow Pinots from Oregon?

It's made by Louis Michel Liger Belair... the wines seem really expensive.. but do they have the magic fairy crack dust that Comte liger belair wines seems to have?

I’d fact check that statement.

Marshall Manning wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 6:41 pm
Jim Anderson wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 6:30 pmOMFG
I'd love to hear your thoughts, Jim. PGC belongs to the Deep Roots Coalition. I'm guessing that's not just a marketing ploy .

Funny. As you posted this I was replying to an email about this thread and responding as to why I can’t and won’t get into things here.

David K o l i n wrote: ↑March 30th, 2021, 7:52 pm Is pruning OK?

No. Nor is planting. If the indigenously existing grape doesn’t grow directly into a pre-corked wine bottle as perfectly fermented wine it’s not legit.

Ah, the angels dancing on the head of a pin stuff. Fabulous. A lot of stuff here is either obtuse or trolling. Hard to figure out. The “there’s no terroir if anything happened ever” stuff is hilarious or annoying. It’s not worth addressing in this context where the majority of the posts seem to be s...

After reading through the "Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind" thread, it's clear that people here have strong opinions one way or another but virtually no one (with 2-3 exceptions) provided substantive comparative characteristics in terms of aromas, flavors, a...

Play Dungeons and Dragons. Join a cult. Pretend you're part of the Yale faculty and go to one of their staff wine tastings. If you're already a faculty member this should have worked already. Get a puppy and take it for walks. Find a local grocery store with at least some sort of wine department but...

Been giving this one a lot of thought. I think the title has a bit of provocativeness that has inspired some of the edgier moments within the thread. I am not coming here to argue that Oregon could reach higher heights than Burgundy’s apex. I think that’s a matter of great subjectivity and ultimatel...

Ultimately Western Washington will be the best...the hills around Chehalis will be known as the Cote de Vert This suggestion brings up something that I have recently been wondering about. NW Oregon and SW Washington must be almost identical in climate. Why doesn't Western WA have its own version of...

When we used to use capsules our labeling line didn’t have an automatic capsuler so someone put each capsule on the bottle. Bored, inattentive personnel would occasionally fail to notice when the cork hopper ran out and kept putting capsules on uncorked bottles. A bottle of 2007 Estate Vineyard, Etz...

Notorious is a blend of barrels. It has been from 1 vineyard at times but is mostly a cross section of barrels from a small handful of sites. Also, especially back then, from wines treated and handled in a particular manner. I had to dig through the archives to find out what it was. I always thought...

Hopefully, folks who got a 2015 Notorious for their participation in the David Bueker’s Dakin Humane Society tasting note fund raiser are all like, “Damn...”

Well, we bottled 30 Pinots in 2019. Due to the fact that there are basically no 2020 Pinots (there’s 1) we will have to hold back the release of a few an extra tick in the calendar to make it through to the release of the 2021s. Holy smokes. No labor market. Insane. Well, it’s what it is. Every win...

Well, we bottled 30 Pinots in 2019. Due to the fact that there are basically no 2020 Pinots (there’s 1) we will have to hold back the release of a few an extra tick in the calendar to make it through to the release of the 2021s.

I use both Diam, starting with the 2014 vintage with the exception of the Reserve bottling and the Amorim “cork-taint free” line of corks starting in (has to go look it up because of age and whiskey) the 2017 vintage. That vintage I basically have no tracking of which wine got which due to a screw u...

bruced wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2021, 7:12 am Based on the Subject, I expected this thread would be about aging Oregon wine. It seems to be about aging Oregon winemakers. Informative nonetheless.

Aging is an extraordinary process where you become the person you always should have been.

-David Bowie

I can only speak for the Pinot Blanc and a sample of a Pinot Noir rose. John says he hasn't seen any smoke taint in his reds. He also said there isn't very much in way of red wine from Cameron in 2020. Ah. Well, hope it’s true but he’s be the first person I’ve heard of with fruit on Worden Hill tha...

For all the talk of winemakers being artisans, I have noticed that many of my favorite Oregon winemakers (who weren’t raised in winemaking as a family business) have science backgrounds. This may mean something or nothing at all. Marcus Goodfellow – Kinesiology Kelley Fox – Biochemistry and Biophys...

In terms of "upper tier" (it's probably as subjective as "best"), there's a long list. Are there any active winemakers in the WV with more cumulative and OR winemaking experience than Steve and JP? Possibly Vlossak and Ken Wright? RT " Depends how you look at experience. I ...

I avoid the word best as much as possible. And both JP and Steve have been hugely influential for me. But the list of winemakers in this conversation would have to be bigger than just those two. In terms of "upper tier" (it's probably as subjective as "best"), there's a long lis...

2004 Patricia Green Balcombe from the Library Release. Decanted 1 hour. Earthy, red fruited nose. Sappy red fruit, raspberry, strawberry. Some cola, baking spice and more earthy notes. I got some effervescence mentioned by others on CT, but it blew off after an hour. Nicely aged classic Pinot. We u...

About to bottle our 2019 (on our slick new bottling line no less). It’s definitely the best of an ever improving lot, small sample size aside. Nonetheless, based on our SBs I am willing to bet that Oregon whites, Chardonnay in particular, are at an apex in this vintage. Haven’t tried many from barre...

Thomas Keim wrote: ↑February 20th, 2021, 12:09 pm
Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: ↑February 18th, 2021, 3:23 pm I find Aubert and Rochioli too big and ripe to be in the same conversation as Burgundy.
Frankly most all the top West Coast Pinot Noirs - much better off using some of the better Pinot Noirs from the Finger Lakes district in New York.

That’s funny.

Ha! Didn’t even know about this but had planned to send TF a six-pack for all his efforts on this site. We’ve just been buried with stuff so it has t happened but had planned a little surprise for Todd. Didn’t know there was a larger organized effort. Think that’s great and well deserved. Sorry - I...

2008 Patricia Green Whistling Ridge-opens a little cranky in the nose but great energy in the palate. Very vibrant, lots of movement, excellent red fruits under lots of other nuances, good acidity and very fine tannins. The nose settles in after 20-30 minutes, but the overall perception for me was ...

Ha! Didn’t even know about this but had planned to send TF a six-pack for all his efforts on this site. We’ve just been buried with stuff so it has t happened but had planned a little surprise for Todd. Didn’t know there was a larger organized effort. Think that’s great and well deserved.

The ‘99 BF was my favorite iteration at the time. Makes sense to me now being neighbors and farming on the same hillside. The ‘99, IMO, was the most elegant and focused of the small number of BF bottlings in existence at the time. It still had great presence and concentration but it was more than ju...

I can only speak for the Pinot Blanc and a sample of a Pinot Noir rose. John says he hasn't seen any smoke taint in his reds. He also said there isn't very much in way of red wine from Cameron in 2020. Ah. Well, hope it’s true but he’s be the first person I’ve heard of with fruit on Worden Hill tha...

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