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by Jim Anderson
April 17th, 2021, 10:00 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What Patricia Green Cellars are you drinking?
Replies: 26
Views: 2035

Re: What Patricia Green Cellars are you drinking?

2015 Durant Madrone block Splash decanted. Sweet red fruit, dense raspberry, cherry. Warm baking spices, with a slightly earthy finish. Young, but enjoyable and fun to drink now. May not be the most sophisticated of the bottlings but it does not lack for enjoyment and flavor! Just the way that bloc...
by Jim Anderson
April 16th, 2021, 8:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Comparing wine forums
Replies: 15
Views: 1116

Re: Comparing wine forums

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: April 16th, 2021, 6:18 pm
Rodrigo B wrote: April 16th, 2021, 6:16 pm
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: April 16th, 2021, 5:57 pm What is BWE?
I'm guessing Richard is referring to the Bordeaux Wine Enthusiast forum
Oh, no wonder I've never heard of it.

Thanks. Carry on.
I thought it was LVF. Lesser Varieties Forum.
by Jim Anderson
April 15th, 2021, 3:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Steph Curry Shoots...and Scores...a La Tache?
Replies: 20
Views: 1691

Re: Steph Curry Shoots...and Scores...a La Tache?

I think they dined in their hotel restaurant, but haven't read which hotel. -Al Al was correct. Which at first I thought no way. The Skirvin & Colcord (normal NBA lodging spots) don’t have wine lists like this. I totally forgot about the Omni opening up in the last couple months. They were at t...
by Jim Anderson
April 15th, 2021, 3:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Steph Curry Shoots...and Scores...a La Tache?
Replies: 20
Views: 1691

Re: Steph Curry Shoots...and Scores...a La Tache?

J. Cohen wrote: April 14th, 2021, 3:07 pm 5k shockingly not too bad for restaurant pricing. Although for a 15’, the recommended drinking dates are 2027-2035+
They don't say the price paid. Just says that La Tache can start at $5,000.
by Jim Anderson
April 12th, 2021, 7:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?
Replies: 134
Views: 9008

Re: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?

Astoria doesn’t have a resort per se and is on the river near the ocean, but has great food and a good vibe all around, and great beer to boot. Cannery Pier is a good hotel on the pier there. There's a Bosnian restaurant in Astoria that's on my hit list. I have heard great reviews. https://drinadai...
by Jim Anderson
April 12th, 2021, 9:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?
Replies: 134
Views: 9008

Re: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?

If you're looking for something on the coast I have heard this place is really nice: https://www.whalecoveinn.com/ It’s a beautiful spot. Crazy beautiful. I don’t think it would be considered a spa. Great views and such. A couple of years back I had an amazing meal at the restaurant there, Beck. Th...
by Jim Anderson
April 11th, 2021, 7:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?
Replies: 134
Views: 9008

Re: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?

Todd Hamina wrote: April 11th, 2021, 5:43 pm This place, though I haven't been to it... https://www.headlandslodge.com/

I do love Pacific City, but expect it to be crowded.
When my right hand guy here at the winery got married a couple years back we all chipped in on a gift certificate to that place. They REALLY liked it.
by Jim Anderson
April 11th, 2021, 4:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?
Replies: 134
Views: 9008

Re: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?

Pre/Post Willamette is there a good spa / relaxing resort to just totally chill out for a few days? Planning to go Portland to Willamette to Oregon coast up to Olympic National Park. Have a ton of driving and would really want to just zone out at some place with really good food for two days. If yo...
by Jim Anderson
April 11th, 2021, 10:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."
Replies: 258
Views: 9455

Re: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."

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by Jim Anderson
April 9th, 2021, 8:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon Wineries that will host a dinner
Replies: 11
Views: 693

Re: Oregon Wineries that will host a dinner

Fred Bower wrote: April 9th, 2021, 7:59 am 7 posts in and no discussion of helicopter parking accommodations?

Friday fun :)

Cheers,
fred
While we are mostly not in the private dinner business we do have a spot where a helicopter could land.
by Jim Anderson
April 8th, 2021, 8:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ponzi Vineyards purchased by Bollinger
Replies: 48
Views: 2246

Re: Ponzi Vineyards purchased by Bollinger

As far as I’m aware, the Bollinger family remains the sole owners of Société Jacques Bollinger SA (SJB), the holding company that owns most of their assets. I’m oversimplifying it a bit, but individual family members of the Bollinger family own shares in SJB (either directly or indirectly), and SJB...
by Jim Anderson
April 8th, 2021, 6:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon Wineries that will host a dinner
Replies: 11
Views: 693

Re: Oregon Wineries that will host a dinner

Hiyu does dinners at their winery with food all grown on the farm. Big Table used to do the same, but I’m not sure if they still do/are right now from COVID. Both are high on my list of want to dos Think the OP is asking after a private dinner, not a list of wineries that have dinner series that ar...
by Jim Anderson
April 7th, 2021, 10:35 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ponzi Vineyards purchased by Bollinger
Replies: 48
Views: 2246

Re: Ponzi Vineyards purchased by Bollinger

Bollinger has a bunch of investors, and it’s taking money from the first investors to buy the winery, then attracting new investors and using their money to pay a return to those original investors, and then getting still more investors ... As far as I’m aware, the Bollinger family remains the sole...
by Jim Anderson
April 7th, 2021, 8:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Give Me All the Sass You Want...
Replies: 3
Views: 524

Re: TN: Give Me All the Sass You Want...

Here you go!!!
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by Jim Anderson
April 7th, 2021, 11:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ponzi Vineyards purchased by Bollinger
Replies: 48
Views: 2246

Re: Ponzi Vineyards purchased by Bollinger

Be curious as to the amount of dough involved.

I do have a story that I likely should not tell in public that would be related, tangentially, to this.

Seems to be a different sort of reaction to this than when KJ buys stuff up here. Just saying.
by Jim Anderson
April 5th, 2021, 10:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?
Replies: 88
Views: 2961

Re: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?

Most good/great wines are not filtered. Have no idea what the premise of this thread is. This is just completely wrong. A tremendous number of white wines are filtered because...they have to be. Any wine that does not complete ML is (or should be) filtered. Tons of white wines across the globe fall...
by Jim Anderson
April 4th, 2021, 7:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."
Replies: 258
Views: 9455

Re: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."

OMFG. 2x in this.
by Jim Anderson
April 4th, 2021, 3:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?
Replies: 48
Views: 2724

Re: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?

The nose can sometimes fool you, but I have yet to taste an American pinot without a confected sweet finish. [scratch.gif] Not sure what you’re drinking, but you won’t get that in my wines. You will get plenty of tannins and acidity... Small sample size? Cheap stuff? CA only? Not sure what to make ...
by Jim Anderson
April 4th, 2021, 1:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."
Replies: 258
Views: 9455

Re: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."

If you irrigate with water from a well located in/adjacent to the vineyard are you impacting the terroir differently than if the water is from a site miles away? What if the water is from a public source and has been treated with chemicals? Been attempting to not say anything here, but this seems p...
by Jim Anderson
April 2nd, 2021, 8:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Accidental Wine Pairing Successes?
Replies: 19
Views: 766

Re: Accidental Wine Pairing Successes?

Chateau de Chasselas with a nice cigar. Then again, when I say cigar I mean a wad of rotten vegetation wrapped in an old, used piece of mimeograph paper. Still, a cigar to me.
by Jim Anderson
April 2nd, 2021, 8:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?
Replies: 48
Views: 2724

Re: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?

Which fact? Ok - consulting wine maker Louis Michel. 😂 Anyhow, You get my question tho right? Anyone had these, and Does R&A come close to replicating the magic that is clb? There’s a difference, you realize, yes? He’s 5,300 miles away harvesting at almost the exact same time. What would you ex...
by Jim Anderson
April 1st, 2021, 10:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?
Replies: 48
Views: 2724

Re: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?

Has anyone had Roses & Arrow Pinots from Oregon? It's made by Louis Michel Liger Belair... the wines seem really expensive.. but do they have the magic fairy crack dust that Comte liger belair wines seems to have? I’d fact check that statement. Which fact? Ok - consulting wine maker Louis Miche...
by Jim Anderson
April 1st, 2021, 8:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?
Replies: 48
Views: 2724

Re: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?

Mark Y wrote: April 1st, 2021, 8:31 pm Has anyone had Roses & Arrow Pinots from Oregon?

It's made by Louis Michel Liger Belair... the wines seem really expensive.. but do they have the magic fairy crack dust that Comte liger belair wines seems to have?
I’d fact check that statement.
by Jim Anderson
March 31st, 2021, 6:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."
Replies: 258
Views: 9455

Re: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."

Marshall Manning wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:41 pm
Jim Anderson wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:30 pmOMFG
I'd love to hear your thoughts, Jim. PGC belongs to the Deep Roots Coalition. I'm guessing that's not just a marketing ploy champagne.gif .
Funny. As you posted this I was replying to an email about this thread and responding as to why I can’t and won’t get into things here.
by Jim Anderson
March 31st, 2021, 6:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."
Replies: 258
Views: 9455

Re: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."

OMFG
by Jim Anderson
March 30th, 2021, 7:54 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."
Replies: 258
Views: 9455

Re: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."

David K o l i n wrote: March 30th, 2021, 7:52 pm Is pruning OK?
No. Nor is planting. If the indigenously existing grape doesn’t grow directly into a pre-corked wine bottle as perfectly fermented wine it’s not legit.
by Jim Anderson
March 30th, 2021, 7:35 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."
Replies: 258
Views: 9455

Re: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."

Ah, the angels dancing on the head of a pin stuff. Fabulous. A lot of stuff here is either obtuse or trolling. Hard to figure out. The “there’s no terroir if anything happened ever” stuff is hilarious or annoying. It’s not worth addressing in this context where the majority of the posts seem to be s...
by Jim Anderson
March 30th, 2021, 9:36 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?
Replies: 48
Views: 2724

Re: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?

After reading through the "Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind" thread, it's clear that people here have strong opinions one way or another but virtually no one (with 2-3 exceptions) provided substantive comparative characteristics in terms of aromas, flavors, a...
by Jim Anderson
March 29th, 2021, 1:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Finding Wine Friends
Replies: 32
Views: 1927

Re: Finding Wine Friends

Play Dungeons and Dragons. Join a cult. Pretend you're part of the Yale faculty and go to one of their staff wine tastings. If you're already a faculty member this should have worked already. Get a puppy and take it for walks. Find a local grocery store with at least some sort of wine department but...
by Jim Anderson
March 29th, 2021, 10:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind
Replies: 160
Views: 8422

Re: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind

Been giving this one a lot of thought. I think the title has a bit of provocativeness that has inspired some of the edgier moments within the thread. I am not coming here to argue that Oregon could reach higher heights than Burgundy’s apex. I think that’s a matter of great subjectivity and ultimatel...
by Jim Anderson
March 28th, 2021, 7:15 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind
Replies: 160
Views: 8422

Re: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind

Ultimately Western Washington will be the best...the hills around Chehalis will be known as the Cote de Vert This suggestion brings up something that I have recently been wondering about. NW Oregon and SW Washington must be almost identical in climate. Why doesn't Western WA have its own version of...
by Jim Anderson
March 22nd, 2021, 8:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1989 A. et P. de Villaine Bourgogne Côte Chalonnaise La Digoine...WHERE'S THE CORK??
Replies: 15
Views: 881

Re: TN: 1989 A. et P. de Villaine Bourgogne Côte Chalonnaise La Digoine...WHERE'S THE CORK??

When we used to use capsules our labeling line didn’t have an automatic capsuler so someone put each capsule on the bottle. Bored, inattentive personnel would occasionally fail to notice when the cork hopper ran out and kept putting capsules on uncorked bottles. A bottle of 2007 Estate Vineyard, Etz...
by Jim Anderson
March 22nd, 2021, 8:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNs: A Super Sunday: Egly, '88 Leflaive, '94 LDH(x2), '05 Patty Green!, '10 Fourrier, '05 Lambrays, '83 Fritz Haag x2
Replies: 19
Views: 933

Re: TNs: A Super Sunday: Egly, '88 Leflaive, '94 LDH(x2), '05 Patty Green!, '10 Fourrier, '05 Lambrays, '83 Fritz Haag x

Notorious is a blend of barrels. It has been from 1 vineyard at times but is mostly a cross section of barrels from a small handful of sites. Also, especially back then, from wines treated and handled in a particular manner. I had to dig through the archives to find out what it was. I always thought...
by Jim Anderson
March 22nd, 2021, 12:02 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNs: A Super Sunday: Egly, '88 Leflaive, '94 LDH(x2), '05 Patty Green!, '10 Fourrier, '05 Lambrays, '83 Fritz Haag x2
Replies: 19
Views: 933

Re: TNs: A Super Sunday: Egly, '88 Leflaive, '94 LDH(x2), '05 Patty Green!, '10 Fourrier, '05 Lambrays, '83 Fritz Haag x

Hopefully, folks who got a 2015 Notorious for their participation in the David Bueker’s Dakin Humane Society tasting note fund raiser are all like, “Damn...”
by Jim Anderson
March 16th, 2021, 8:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2019 Patricia Green
Replies: 8
Views: 983

Re: 2019 Patricia Green

Well, we bottled 30 Pinots in 2019. Due to the fact that there are basically no 2020 Pinots (there’s 1) we will have to hold back the release of a few an extra tick in the calendar to make it through to the release of the 2021s. Holy smokes. No labor market. Insane. Well, it’s what it is. Every win...
by Jim Anderson
March 16th, 2021, 8:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2019 Patricia Green
Replies: 8
Views: 983

Re: 2019 Patricia Green

Well, we bottled 30 Pinots in 2019. Due to the fact that there are basically no 2020 Pinots (there’s 1) we will have to hold back the release of a few an extra tick in the calendar to make it through to the release of the 2021s.
by Jim Anderson
March 4th, 2021, 7:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: No More Cork Taint?
Replies: 47
Views: 1415

Re: No More Cork Taint?

I use both Diam, starting with the 2014 vintage with the exception of the Reserve bottling and the Amorim “cork-taint free” line of corks starting in (has to go look it up because of age and whiskey) the 2017 vintage. That vintage I basically have no tracking of which wine got which due to a screw u...
by Jim Anderson
March 3rd, 2021, 7:44 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon aging rule of thumb
Replies: 146
Views: 9443

Re: Oregon aging rule of thumb

bruced wrote: March 3rd, 2021, 7:12 am Based on the Subject, I expected this thread would be about aging Oregon wine. It seems to be about aging Oregon winemakers. Informative nonetheless. ;)
Aging is an extraordinary process where you become the person you always should have been.

-David Bowie
by Jim Anderson
March 2nd, 2021, 6:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Smoke taint 2020...
Replies: 377
Views: 37042

Re: Smoke taint 2020...

I can only speak for the Pinot Blanc and a sample of a Pinot Noir rose. John says he hasn't seen any smoke taint in his reds. He also said there isn't very much in way of red wine from Cameron in 2020. Ah. Well, hope it’s true but he’s be the first person I’ve heard of with fruit on Worden Hill tha...
by Jim Anderson
March 2nd, 2021, 6:24 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon aging rule of thumb
Replies: 146
Views: 9443

Re: Oregon aging rule of thumb

For all the talk of winemakers being artisans, I have noticed that many of my favorite Oregon winemakers (who weren’t raised in winemaking as a family business) have science backgrounds. This may mean something or nothing at all. Marcus Goodfellow – Kinesiology Kelley Fox – Biochemistry and Biophys...
by Jim Anderson
March 2nd, 2021, 9:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon aging rule of thumb
Replies: 146
Views: 9443

Re: Oregon aging rule of thumb

In terms of "upper tier" (it's probably as subjective as "best"), there's a long list. Are there any active winemakers in the WV with more cumulative and OR winemaking experience than Steve and JP? Possibly Vlossak and Ken Wright? RT " Depends how you look at experience. I ...
by Jim Anderson
March 2nd, 2021, 7:36 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon aging rule of thumb
Replies: 146
Views: 9443

Re: Oregon aging rule of thumb

I avoid the word best as much as possible. And both JP and Steve have been hugely influential for me. But the list of winemakers in this conversation would have to be bigger than just those two. In terms of "upper tier" (it's probably as subjective as "best"), there's a long lis...
by Jim Anderson
February 27th, 2021, 9:03 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What Patricia Green Cellars are you drinking?
Replies: 26
Views: 2035

Re: What Patricia Green Cellars are you drinking?

2004 Patricia Green Balcombe from the Library Release. Decanted 1 hour. Earthy, red fruited nose. Sappy red fruit, raspberry, strawberry. Some cola, baking spice and more earthy notes. I got some effervescence mentioned by others on CT, but it blew off after an hour. Nicely aged classic Pinot. We u...
by Jim Anderson
February 23rd, 2021, 8:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Why is Oregon chardonnay so expensive?
Replies: 206
Views: 15013

Re: Why is Oregon chardonnay so expensive?

About to bottle our 2019 (on our slick new bottling line no less). It’s definitely the best of an ever improving lot, small sample size aside. Nonetheless, based on our SBs I am willing to bet that Oregon whites, Chardonnay in particular, are at an apex in this vintage. Haven’t tried many from barre...
by Jim Anderson
February 20th, 2021, 3:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pinot: Rhys v. Rochioli v. Aubert v. CA Others v. Burgundy
Replies: 104
Views: 8222

Re: Pinot: Rhys v. Rochioli v. Aubert v. CA Others v. Burgundy

Thomas Keim wrote: February 20th, 2021, 12:09 pm
Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: February 18th, 2021, 3:23 pm I find Aubert and Rochioli too big and ripe to be in the same conversation as Burgundy.
Frankly most all the top West Coast Pinot Noirs - much better off using some of the better Pinot Noirs from the Finger Lakes district in New York.
That’s funny.
by Jim Anderson
February 16th, 2021, 9:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Took Todd French out to celebrate the record breaking Bersekerday and YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT I SURPRISED HIM WITH
Replies: 56
Views: 4006

Re: Took Todd French out to celebrate the record breaking Bersekerday and YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT I SURPRISED HIM WITH

Ha! Didn’t even know about this but had planned to send TF a six-pack for all his efforts on this site. We’ve just been buried with stuff so it has t happened but had planned a little surprise for Todd. Didn’t know there was a larger organized effort. Think that’s great and well deserved. Sorry - I...
by Jim Anderson
February 14th, 2021, 6:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What Patricia Green Cellars are you drinking?
Replies: 26
Views: 2035

Re: What Patricia Green Cellars are you drinking?

2008 Patricia Green Whistling Ridge-opens a little cranky in the nose but great energy in the palate. Very vibrant, lots of movement, excellent red fruits under lots of other nuances, good acidity and very fine tannins. The nose settles in after 20-30 minutes, but the overall perception for me was ...
by Jim Anderson
February 12th, 2021, 10:47 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Took Todd French out to celebrate the record breaking Bersekerday and YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT I SURPRISED HIM WITH
Replies: 56
Views: 4006

Re: Took Todd French out to celebrate the record breaking Bersekerday and YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT I SURPRISED HIM WITH

Ha! Didn’t even know about this but had planned to send TF a six-pack for all his efforts on this site. We’ve just been buried with stuff so it has t happened but had planned a little surprise for Todd. Didn’t know there was a larger organized effort. Think that’s great and well deserved.
by Jim Anderson
February 11th, 2021, 8:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1999 Beaux Freres BF Vineyard
Replies: 10
Views: 639

Re: 1999 Beaux Freres BF Vineyard

The ‘99 BF was my favorite iteration at the time. Makes sense to me now being neighbors and farming on the same hillside. The ‘99, IMO, was the most elegant and focused of the small number of BF bottlings in existence at the time. It still had great presence and concentration but it was more than ju...
by Jim Anderson
February 9th, 2021, 8:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Smoke taint 2020...
Replies: 377
Views: 37042

Re: Smoke taint 2020...

I can only speak for the Pinot Blanc and a sample of a Pinot Noir rose. John says he hasn't seen any smoke taint in his reds. He also said there isn't very much in way of red wine from Cameron in 2020. Ah. Well, hope it’s true but he’s be the first person I’ve heard of with fruit on Worden Hill tha...

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