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by Robert Sand
September 11th, 2020, 8:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2012 Château Rayas Côtes du Rhône La Pialade
Replies: 20
Views: 694

Re: TN: 2012 Château Rayas Côtes du Rhône La Pialade

In the case of the des Tours line-up (I have never had Pialade and too few Rayases to make a judgment), I am not a great beleiver in the 24 hour slow ox method. It's clear effect is to turn the bright fruit on opening to a mellower and more complex palate and nose and I see its point. Having experi...
by Robert Sand
September 11th, 2020, 8:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2012 Château Rayas Côtes du Rhône La Pialade
Replies: 20
Views: 694

Re: TN: 2012 Château Rayas Côtes du Rhône La Pialade

A. So wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 7:59 am
To be clear, my statement was not based on extrapolating the entry-level Rayas wines.
Ok, but I disagree reg. Rayas Reservee too. I had many mature and great bottles
The 2 Pialade bottles sound like heat damaged
by Robert Sand
September 11th, 2020, 7:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2012 Château Rayas Côtes du Rhône La Pialade
Replies: 20
Views: 694

Re: TN: 2012 Château Rayas Côtes du Rhône La Pialade

The bottles were terribly astringent, and there was a very bizarre grapefruit note on them. It's not a popular opinion, but I don't think the Emmanuel-era Rayas wines hold up that well. As far as top-tier CdP goes, I'd much rather have Celestins or Jacques Perrin. I had the exact same experience wi...
by Robert Sand
September 8th, 2020, 12:03 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Latour 2009 released
Replies: 53
Views: 4103

Re: Latour 2009 released

1.190 € in Germany in sub.

No thanks -
by Robert Sand
September 8th, 2020, 7:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 'Cordeloux' / WTF Happened to Benetiere?
Replies: 12
Views: 729

Re: TN: 2011 'Cordeloux' / WTF Happened to Benetiere?

I´ve just asked a friend who was in the Rhone Valley last week and planned to pay a visit also to Benetiere.
He wrote to me: no reply by e-mail, on the phone only a tape - and the house/cellar looked deserted and empty, and all that when most other vignerons harvested or worked in their cellars.
???
by Robert Sand
September 6th, 2020, 12:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How good is the 2008 vintage in BURGUNDY
Replies: 47
Views: 3473

Re: How good is the 2008 vintage in BURGUNDY

Not a great fan of 2008 in red, in opposite to one or another critic.
I often find the acidity pronounced, and the wines lacking in substance.
But better than 2011.
Last I had Bertheau Charmes and Harmand-Geoffroy Gevrey VV - both in that style.
by Robert Sand
August 28th, 2020, 9:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: JL Chave Mailing List?
Replies: 2
Views: 745

Re: JL Chave Mailing List?

Afaic it's not a real mailing list, it's an allocation for old faithful customers, importers and retailers.
I 'm trying to get bottles for 10+ years - without success, but I know someone who has an allocation -
by Robert Sand
August 26th, 2020, 9:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ducru Beaucaillou 1989
Replies: 23
Views: 1005

Re: Ducru Beaucaillou 1989

12 years ago we did a vertical tasting of 1982, 83, 85, 86, 88, 89 and 90.
3 out of 7 had this TCA problem, 86, 88 and 90 - a shame.
Afterwards I sold all my DucruB.

I would not buy any DB of this period
by Robert Sand
August 26th, 2020, 2:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Acid and aging
Replies: 25
Views: 1592

Re: Acid and aging

So I opened a 2014 biggio hamina Pinot Nior and although it’s quite pleasant, the acid is pretty forward. Does acid tone down with aging? No, acid never disappears in the bottle. On the contrary: the final state of each and every wine is vinegar, sometimes after 2-5 years, sometimes after 200-300 y...
by Robert Sand
August 24th, 2020, 7:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1999 Eric Texier Hermitage
Replies: 14
Views: 663

Re: TN: 1999 Eric Texier Hermitage

It definitely can be enjoyed now, John, But it also has more left in the tank, by my reckoning. (I am holding on to one more.)) Rumor on CT is that the grapes, or juice (?) originate from Chave. Don't myself know more than that. Do post, please, if you try it. Don´t know if it´s from Chave, but if ...
by Robert Sand
August 23rd, 2020, 4:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Most beautiful wine labels?
Replies: 136
Views: 6514

Re: Most beautiful wine labels?

Sepp & Maria MUSTER
"Sgaminegg"

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by Robert Sand
August 20th, 2020, 12:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine
Replies: 103
Views: 5042

Re: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine

... and what about slow oxy before decanting?
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by Robert Sand
August 20th, 2020, 10:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2009 Domaine Jean-Louis Chave St. Joseph (France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph)
Replies: 8
Views: 550

Re: TN: 2009 Domaine Jean-Louis Chave St. Joseph (France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph)

Arv R wrote:
August 19th, 2020, 11:00 am
I haven't had the estate St Joe, but I thought the 99 and 09 Offerus bought in grapes versions were a bit underwhelming.
That's why I don't buy any Offerus anxmore.
Had the 2001 St.J. a month ago, in a very nice spot now and an outstanding SJ
by Robert Sand
August 20th, 2020, 8:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is there a "size bonus" in wine scores?
Replies: 51
Views: 2166

Re: Is there a "size bonus" in wine scores?

I think that many scores generally are too high, on CT as well as from writers.
A score of 92 or above is the exception not the rule, and 95+ is rare , or should be ...
by Robert Sand
August 19th, 2020, 11:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: NSG Fans?
Replies: 43
Views: 1966

Re: NSG Fans?

[help.gif] So, basically, the responses I am getting is that people like NSGs that don't taste like they come from NSG. You guys are putting down NSG more than I am. It seems so - but why then not the real thing, a Vosne or Chambolle ... granted more expensive and harder ro find. I repeat myself, bu...
by Robert Sand
August 19th, 2020, 4:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: NSG Fans?
Replies: 43
Views: 1966

Re: NSG Fans?

1st NSG needs a lot of time, 20-25+ years
2nd it is a masculine structured wine, neither graceful like Chambolle nor perfumed like a Vosne
That's facts, very rarely otherwise
by Robert Sand
August 18th, 2020, 2:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pinot Grigio — is it ever the best choice?
Replies: 55
Views: 1793

Re: Pinot Grigio — is it ever the best choice?

Agreed with everything you said - except I can't remember ever having an interesting white Pinot Gris (/Grauburgunder) from Austria. I've had some quite memorable skin-contact versions (Meinklang's Graupert and Wenzel's Wild+Free), but nothing particularly noteworthy vinified as white. Any suggesti...
by Robert Sand
August 18th, 2020, 1:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pinot Grigio — is it ever the best choice?
Replies: 55
Views: 1793

Re: Pinot Grigio — is it ever the best choice?

Pinot Grigio, we call it Ruländer or Grauburgunder in Germany, needs a certain ripeness, otherwise it will be very neutral, uninteresting and smell and taste almost nothing. When it´s really ripe it will never be a light, crisp, lively wine, but a wine of substance with a certain heaviness (NO, it d...
by Robert Sand
August 14th, 2020, 9:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Dear Abby; My wife's tastes are changing, and I don't like it!
Replies: 34
Views: 2323

Re: Dear Abby; My wife's tastes are changing, and I don't like it!

Fortunately, she still loves most Champagne, and dry white wines. Most reds and anything with residual sweetness are no-go's. She used to enjoy, or at least tolerate my beloved Huet Secs which have a little RS. Not anymore. I can sneak an older elegant Nebbiolo, Burgundy, or structured Cru Bojo in ...
by Robert Sand
August 14th, 2020, 2:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Aging champagnes/ buying drinking aged champagnes- help please
Replies: 88
Views: 3957

Re: Aging champagnes/ buying drinking aged champagnes- help please

I believe that there is another dimension to the OP, and that is which wines are the ones that age best? Which producers, and which vintages? This has been addressed, of course, and I’d appreciate addtional commentary. But, I don’t think the issue is just that one either enjoys older Champagne or t...
by Robert Sand
August 13th, 2020, 6:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Aging champagnes/ buying drinking aged champagnes- help please
Replies: 88
Views: 3957

Re: Aging champagnes/ buying drinking aged champagnes- help please

I'm really glad that you posted this, Blake. I've been wondering the same about really old Champagne and have to think that at some point, it becomes more of an academic exercise than an experience of pleasure. I'm looking forward to the responses from those who know. It quite simple: if you prefer...
by Robert Sand
August 13th, 2020, 3:02 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy, Champagne & Riesling recommendations
Replies: 8
Views: 677

Re: Burgundy, Champagne & Riesling recommendations

Just looking for a few recommendations. Never really cared about Champagne, until a few months ago when I tried a 2008 Piper-Heidsieck Brut. I realize now I haven't cared because I simply haven't tried enough. Looking for a mix of bottles to get me started with these varietals/ regions. Pinot Noir ...
by Robert Sand
August 9th, 2020, 10:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Any Pinot Blanc fans here?
Replies: 53
Views: 1704

Re: Any Pinot Blanc fans here?

Certainly it has something to do with how Auxerrois (a variety I'm not sure is capable of producing anything of real interest) can be labeled as Pinot Blanc, as well as any grape in the Pinot family as long as it is vinified white. For example it is entirely possible one can have a wine labeled as ...
by Robert Sand
August 9th, 2020, 3:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Any Pinot Blanc fans here?
Replies: 53
Views: 1704

Re: Any Pinot Blanc fans here?

Many different Pinot Blanc Champagnes I've had have been pretty great - as long as they are Brut Nature. Dosage tends to make them excessively fruit and rather flabby very easily. 100% Pinot Blanc? I didn't know there were that many out there. I've had the previously cited Cédric Bouchard La Boloré...
by Robert Sand
August 9th, 2020, 2:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy typicity
Replies: 33
Views: 2349

Re: Burgundy typicity

Lonnie F. wrote:
August 8th, 2020, 7:47 pm


Anne Gros wines listed above are 1er cru and are no longer under 100 $.
Cannot say anything about US pricing, but Anne Gros s wines are Village not 1er Cru ! She has no 1er Crus at all (except bought-in now and then)
by Robert Sand
August 9th, 2020, 2:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy typicity
Replies: 33
Views: 2349

Re: Burgundy typicity

Lonnie F. wrote:
August 8th, 2020, 7:47 pm


Anne Gros wines listed above are 1er cru and are no longer under 100 $.
Cannot say anything about US pricing, but Anne Gros s wines are Village not 1er Cru ! She has no 1er Crus at all (except bought-in now and then)
by Robert Sand
August 8th, 2020, 1:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Any Pinot Blanc fans here?
Replies: 53
Views: 1704

Re: Any Pinot Blanc fans here?

There are many excellent Pinot Blancs - called Weissburgunder here - produced in Germany, (Baden-Württemberg, Rheinland-Pfalz, Rheinhessen ...) and in Southern Austria (Steiermark). No use to quote names since not all are available in the UStates - There are Europeans on the forum too so all recs a...
by Robert Sand
August 8th, 2020, 3:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN - 1990 Mouton-Rothschild - the happiest possible ending to one of my longest journeys in wine
Replies: 14
Views: 1303

Re: TN - 1990 Mouton-Rothschild - the happiest possible ending to one of my longest journeys in wine

Well, good story, thanks. I agree it´s fully mature. However the Mouton 1990 has always been a disapointment for me, not because it is a bad wine (it isn´t), but because it is (by far) not good enough for a First Growth in a great vintage, and therefore overpriced. All other FGs made better wine in ...
by Robert Sand
August 8th, 2020, 2:58 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The world's most expensive wines- from Wine Searcher
Replies: 41
Views: 2328

Re: The world's most expensive wines- from Wine Searcher

To be clear, doesn’t the wine searcher price represent the price at which the wine doesn’t sell? If people were willing to buy it, then it would not be available on wine-searcher. This is not really correct. It may be that a wine offered on WS is too expensive and will never sell - but except the y...
by Robert Sand
August 8th, 2020, 1:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which DRC to try
Replies: 62
Views: 3790

Re: Which DRC to try

You´re born in 1981, right - year of conception 1980 - and the DRC 1980 were very successful. If you find a bottle in good condition (!) of 1980 Richebourg or Grands Echezeaux they could be still fine - La Tache better still, but more expensive. RSV is a bit light, as is Echezeaux. They 1980s even m...
by Robert Sand
August 8th, 2020, 1:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Any Pinot Blanc fans here?
Replies: 53
Views: 1704

Re: Any Pinot Blanc fans here?

There are many excellent Pinot Blancs - called Weissburgunder here - produced in Germany, (Baden-Württemberg, Rheinland-Pfalz, Rheinhessen ...)
and in Southern Austria (Steiermark).
No use to quote names since not all are available in the UStates -
by Robert Sand
August 7th, 2020, 8:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy typicity
Replies: 33
Views: 2349

Re: Burgundy typicity

thanks Robert, very usefull. Exactly the sort of tips I was looking for. I tend to go for more balanced and elegant. I can't afford a Musigny but it is in my bucket list. I will try more and keep learning from the folks in this forum. cheers. You´re welcome. Michael´s nomination of Volnay is a good...
by Robert Sand
August 7th, 2020, 6:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The world's most expensive wines- from Wine Searcher
Replies: 41
Views: 2328

Re: The world's most expensive wines- from Wine Searcher

Although I´ve had the luck to taste almost all of the top 10 in this list (except the Port and the d´Auvenay Batard) due to some wine-friends I´m not in the state to buy any of these myself, sacrifying my income of almost 4-5 months for it. In our global world there are so many wealthy people around...
by Robert Sand
August 7th, 2020, 5:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy typicity
Replies: 33
Views: 2349

Re: Burgundy typicity

-- What I still don't know is how to tell the difference on 1er or villages in terms of acidity (more or less), minerality, etc. I guess drinking is the way to go. The differences between Village, 1er and Grand Cru are not to be found in acidity, (rarely) minerality etc. but in a less or more prono...
by Robert Sand
August 3rd, 2020, 4:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Bone-dry meaning is completely lost. Major rant. Riesling. Again.
Replies: 112
Views: 5137

Re: Bone-dry meaning is completely lost. Major rant. Riesling. Again.

On the subject of surprising RS levels, I just opened a 2018 Carl von Schubert/Maximin Grünhaus Gutswein Riesling. Entry level bottling, apparently a blend of fruit from 3 grand cru vineyards and incredible value at less than $15 USD. LCBO says it has 10 g/L RS, their tech sheet says 8.1, but man, ...
by Robert Sand
August 1st, 2020, 11:03 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Bone-dry meaning is completely lost. Major rant. Riesling. Again.
Replies: 112
Views: 5137

Re: Bone-dry meaning is completely lost. Major rant. Riesling. Again.

For me, the solution (albeit a difficult one) is drinking Riesling with 15+ years of age. All young Riesling tastes too sweet to me, and too similar to each other. A tasty grape beverage, but not, to me, enough of a wine experience. You want bones, mineral, slate, maybe earth, with a modest layer o...
by Robert Sand
July 31st, 2020, 9:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Bone-dry meaning is completely lost. Major rant. Riesling. Again.
Replies: 112
Views: 5137

Re: Bone-dry meaning is completely lost. Major rant. Riesling. Again.

The discussion is going into the wrong direction. I know some Kuentz-Bas wines - and they are almost never tasting "bone dry" - if dry at all. So it's not about Adams taste, but about mislabelling by the producer and wrong description by the importer. DRY legally can go up to 7, even 9 gr/l with apr...
by Robert Sand
July 30th, 2020, 7:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2014 Maison Albert Bichot Côte de Nuits Villages
Replies: 27
Views: 727

Re: TN: 2014 Maison Albert Bichot Côte de Nuits Villages

Not sure if there is some sort of a language barrier here but I most definitely was not saying that one should go for a label that does not clearly state the region, appellation and the possible vineyard as well. I am all for stating the region/appellation/vineyard on the label, however of course B...
by Robert Sand
July 30th, 2020, 1:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2014 Maison Albert Bichot Côte de Nuits Villages
Replies: 27
Views: 727

Re: TN: 2014 Maison Albert Bichot Côte de Nuits Villages

Not sure if there is some sort of a language barrier here but I most definitely was not saying that one should go for a label that does not clearly state the region, appellation and the possible vineyard as well. I am all for stating the region/appellation/vineyard on the label, however of course B...
by Robert Sand
July 30th, 2020, 12:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Bone-dry meaning is completely lost. Major rant. Riesling. Again.
Replies: 112
Views: 5137

Re: Bone-dry meaning is completely lost. Major rant. Riesling. Again.

I agree that quite a few wines (Riesling et al) are indicated incorrectly reg. taste/sweetness, in Alsace as well as in Germany - and I say that as being German.
You should complain to the importer - or better still to the producer, which shouldn´t be any problem nowadays via internet.
by Robert Sand
July 30th, 2020, 12:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 Allemand Reynard just sold for $378+tax at K&L
Replies: 17
Views: 1445

Re: 2008 Allemand Reynard just sold for $378+tax at K&L

Greg K wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 11:01 am
--- especially since the Reynard is (imho) the best wine made in the northern rhone.
imho not --- maybe the best Cornas
by Robert Sand
July 25th, 2020, 1:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RIP Peter Green
Replies: 16
Views: 1307

Re: RIP Peter Green

Great guitar player !
by Robert Sand
July 25th, 2020, 3:31 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Article: The era of grower Champagnes is over
Replies: 113
Views: 6074

Re: Article: The era of grower Champagnes is over

IMO, Champagne sales are down because Champagne is expensive. There is no cheap Champagne. With the lack of restaurants and the lack of anything to celebrate, luxury wine - and you could basically categorize all Champagne as luxury wine - is falling by the wayside, aside from the true "top" produce...
by Robert Sand
July 25th, 2020, 1:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The world's finest Grenache is from ...
Replies: 163
Views: 6112

Re: The world's finest Grenache is from ...

I would say that Chateau des Tours/Vacqueyras is the closest in style to Rayas - except the sibling Pignan -(but still not really similar), and Fonsalette is quite different with only 50% Grenache but a lot of Cinsault - Fonsalette Syrah is a completely different beast - To each his own I guess, I ...
by Robert Sand
July 24th, 2020, 9:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is this a wine?
Replies: 53
Views: 2148

Re: Is this a wine?

It seems to be a Petillante, a sparkling wine with quite low pressure ... from Riesling ... could be good or bad ... I would certainly taste or at least smell it, but only for free ...
by Robert Sand
July 24th, 2020, 1:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNs Epic evening- Ausone, Palmer, Chave, Lafite, Leflaive, Dom Perignon, Muller-Catoir, Grange, Rousseau, Rouget + more
Replies: 15
Views: 1771

Re: TNs Epic evening- Ausone, Palmer, Chave, Lafite, Leflaive, Dom Perignon, Muller-Catoir, Grange, Rousseau, Rouget + m

Mark Golodetz wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 2:55 am
That being said, disappointing Ponsot. I thought he was back in form by then. The 1999 is stellar.
Yes, I´m also puzzled.
I had the 2002 15 years ago and was excited, easily a 95+points wine.
Maybe this was not the best bottle
by Robert Sand
July 23rd, 2020, 4:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The world's finest Grenache is from ...
Replies: 163
Views: 6112

Re: The world's finest Grenache is from ...

The 2000 Rayas I had earlier this year was the best Grenache I have ever tasted. So Rayas. I do have a soft spot for Outpost’s Grenache, though. This is positively interesting, because the 2000 Rayas has long and often being called weak (e.g. by RMP) which I don´t agree with; it is very bright in c...
by Robert Sand
July 22nd, 2020, 2:29 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The World's Finest Pinot is from . . .
Replies: 41
Views: 2556

Re: The World's Finest Pinot is from . . .

William Kelley wrote:
July 21st, 2020, 2:47 pm

To make a more general point, I don't think a strong producer style is incompatible with site expression: Coche, Jayer, Reynaud, DRC all have very strong imprints yet the wines from different sites are also very distinct.
?
Rouget? Roumier?
by Robert Sand
July 22nd, 2020, 1:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The World's finest Chardonnay is from ...
Replies: 105
Views: 4632

Re: The World's finest Chardonnay is from ...

Scott Watkins wrote:
July 21st, 2020, 6:13 pm
Pretty sure all of these threads should be titled, The World's best (insert variety) is from France what say you?
No, I don't think the best Zinfandel is from France. [tease.gif]

For Riesling I think it's a question between Germany, Austria and France ... mostly a qu. of style
by Robert Sand
July 21st, 2020, 10:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Red Corton Wines
Replies: 47
Views: 3075

Re: Red Corton Wines

While Corton might be the least expensive GC there are 2 issues to consider:
not all of the hill, maybe not even half is really GC quality,
and I've never had a really satisfying Corton with less than 20 years of age, often not less than 25y

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