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by Robert Sand
September 23rd, 2019, 9:56 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Blind tasting of 6 Northern and 6 Southern red Rhones
Replies: 8
Views: 528

Re: Blind tasting of 6 Northern and 6 Southern red Rhones

Blake Brown wrote:
September 23rd, 2019, 8:07 am

2007 FERAUD-BRUNEL COTES du RHONE VILLAGES RASTEAUX- Grenache blend; this wine comes from a collaborative effort by Laurence Féraud {Les Cailloux} and André Brunel {Pegau} of Châteauneuf-du- Pape;
The other way round please: Laurence Féraud {Pegau} and André Brunel {Les Cailloux}
by Robert Sand
September 23rd, 2019, 9:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Tell me about Vougeraie wines
Replies: 2
Views: 190

Re: Tell me about Vougeraie wines

Quite modern made with new oak - belongs to Jean Claude Boisset (big negociant) and is their top-line, put together about 20 years ago from family owned plots and aquired vineyards from Pierre Ponelle, Voilland and others. I heard the farming is now organic. Quality is usually high, but one has to f...
by Robert Sand
September 23rd, 2019, 1:58 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1988 Chateau Meyney
Replies: 21
Views: 582

Re: TN: 1988 Chateau Meyney

I still do think that the best Meyney of the 80ies is 1989 or 1982 (hard to say), then 86, 90 and 88.
by Robert Sand
September 23rd, 2019, 12:12 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2009 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Replies: 7
Views: 424

Re: TN: 2009 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape

I had the 09 Beaucastel a while back together with 07, 08 and 10 - it wasn´t a really great wine but showed well if very young.
However imho it´s not the best age to taste 2009 Chateauneuf-du-Papes now, several were unyielding last spring, incl. B., Clos des Papes and Marcoux VV.
by Robert Sand
September 22nd, 2019, 9:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1988 Chateau Meyney
Replies: 21
Views: 582

Re: TN: 1988 Chateau Meyney

It´s been a while I had it but in 2014 I noted
"classic, quite austere, medium depth and length, not match for 89 and 90, but very good. 89 points.

Has there a miracle happened?
by Robert Sand
September 15th, 2019, 12:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 54
Views: 2787

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

With the nuances and huge variances in US liquor sales laws, could there be other outcomes from this? I think I've read (maybe here?) that some states have distribution laws which may not be as restrictive based on the age of the wine...Then again, I could have my head up my ass, wouldn't be the fi...
by Robert Sand
September 13th, 2019, 11:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: For BAMA fans...
Replies: 50
Views: 2014

Re: For BAMA fans...

Abbrevations make only sense when (most) people know them -

GDRF
by Robert Sand
September 13th, 2019, 6:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 54
Views: 2787

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

But I have no cellar in my house in the Rhone valley and have to drink what I buy right away. The ability to buy 10 year old wines is great for me. I have no idea how generalizable my situation is. It should not be too difficult to find anybody in the Rhone valley whom you can trust and who stores ...
by Robert Sand
September 12th, 2019, 7:18 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 54
Views: 2787

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

I guess I am one of the few who find this insulting as a consumer. The idea of telling me that I am not smart enough to know how to consume a bottle of wine that you sold me, that the f***ing wine has to be protected from potential customers is, to me, ridiculous! Maybe the experience i want from t...
by Robert Sand
September 12th, 2019, 12:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 54
Views: 2787

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

I guess I am one of the few who find this insulting as a consumer. The idea of telling me that I am not smart enough to know how to consume a bottle of wine that you sold me, that the f***ing wine has to be protected from potential customers is, to me, ridiculous! Maybe the experience i want from t...
by Robert Sand
September 11th, 2019, 3:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 54
Views: 2787

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

2010 is already released (I think this spring) - don´t know if everywhere. But my warning is: it won´t be fully mature before 2025-2028 ... better drink 2008, 2006, 2004 and older now ... However I don´t understand why the 2011 hasn´t been released before the 2010 (in terms of maturity), but the go...
by Robert Sand
September 10th, 2019, 1:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 54
Views: 2787

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

Not a fan as a consumer. It rewards those with money vs. those with time and energy to cellar and age. By holding back you drive up historical vintage pricing due to scarce supply, then release newer vintages at closer to market price. I don't particularly mind one way or another, but would think i...
by Robert Sand
September 9th, 2019, 5:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 54
Views: 2787

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
September 9th, 2019, 4:46 am

Is this working well for Chateau Latour?
as far as I´ve heard they maybe might jump back to Primeurs --- but this is unconfirmed -
I mean who is buying 2013 Les Forts now -
by Robert Sand
August 28th, 2019, 10:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Phases of Aging Riesling
Replies: 57
Views: 2089

Re: Phases of Aging Riesling

Generally not wrong, but it depends vm on sweetness/dryness, vintage, producer - and also region. Saar is different, and also Pfalz, Rheingau etc. not to speak of Baden, Alsace, Austria
by Robert Sand
August 28th, 2019, 4:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1885

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

Dinesh Goyal wrote:
August 28th, 2019, 2:36 am
BTW Le Clos De Caillou hasn’t been mentioned. I don’t know them but they seem to have good reviews on CT. What’s their style like?
Clos des Caillou is a vg producer, but quite modern style.
La Reserve is usually outstanding
by Robert Sand
August 28th, 2019, 12:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1885

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

+1 for Bois deBoursan. very traditional producer, 1/3 price of Beaucastel. Clos des Brusquieres is also good.
by Robert Sand
August 22nd, 2019, 9:44 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2006 Keller Von der Fels
Replies: 21
Views: 946

Re: 2006 Keller Von der Fels

Robert Dentice wrote:
August 22nd, 2019, 8:46 am

The screw cap showed very little evolution where as the cork was just hitting that point when an older perfectly stored dry Riesling starts to show many different characteristics.
I´m not storing wine just to find it almost unchanged after many years!
by Robert Sand
August 22nd, 2019, 7:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: OK to store long-term in OWC?
Replies: 37
Views: 2107

Re: OK to store long-term in OWC?

Absolutely ok for the wine. I have most of my Bordeaux in OWC.
Only if the cellar is quite humid the labels can suffer a bit when down on the floor, less when further up.
by Robert Sand
August 22nd, 2019, 7:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: looking for cheap wine decanters
Replies: 20
Views: 835

Re: looking for cheap wine decanters

I have a lot of decanters not dissimilar to those at IKEA, and also wider ones, and expensive ones, too -
I don´t see any major difference in aeration because the main oxigen gets into the wine when decanting.
The typical Barolo caraffes are simply for nothing, only bad to pour.
by Robert Sand
August 21st, 2019, 8:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2006 Keller Von der Fels
Replies: 21
Views: 946

Re: 2006 Keller Von der Fels

I had both G-Max and Morstein (not Abts-€) 2006 in about 2012 - and I prefered G-Max slightly, imo, however both really great wines.
Kirchspiel is delicious, but not on that high level.
by Robert Sand
August 19th, 2019, 5:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1998 Château Lafleur-Gazin (France, Bordeaux, Libournais, Pomerol)
Replies: 4
Views: 354

Re: TN: 1998 Château Lafleur-Gazin (France, Bordeaux, Libournais, Pomerol)

Most if not all 1998 right bankers are very good now if from good producers. Definitely the best vintage between 1990 and 2009/10 in St.Em. and Pomerol, even better than 2005 imho.
by Robert Sand
August 19th, 2019, 5:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1966 Château Haut-Brion (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)
Replies: 4
Views: 485

Re: TN: 1966 Château Haut-Brion (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)

I liked the 1966 and 1964 HB very much. The 66 was darker and showed a bit more green in the nose than 64 but the latter was sweeter and more seductive. So your description seems to be fitting.
btw also the 1967 is not a bad wine despite the weak vintage.
by Robert Sand
August 19th, 2019, 1:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN- 87 Magdelaine, 85 Lynch Bages, 03 Clos des Goisses, 08 Winston Churchill, 10 Silex, 01 Weil Auslese
Replies: 7
Views: 536

Re: TN- 87 Magdelaine, 85 Lynch Bages, 03 Clos des Goisses, 08 Winston Churchill, 10 Silex, 01 Weil Auslese

I had several 1987 Bordeaux over the last 10 years - but not Magdelaine, and not a single one was really outstanding, incl. 1st growth, all were fully mature, and I would doubt that any wine will stay on the plateau for another 16 years. Also all were more or less lacking in length. But maybe Magdel...
by Robert Sand
August 19th, 2019, 1:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir
Replies: 39
Views: 2100

Re: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir

Thank you for your detailed list of recommendations, Juergen! BTW: Switzerland produces fine Pinot Noir as well, a few examples: Gantenbein (pricey but top) Tscharner Donatsch Fromm Obrecht As you can imagine, I know Swiss Pinot Noirs quite well. The ones you mentioned (with the exception of Fromm)...
by Robert Sand
August 18th, 2019, 3:31 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir
Replies: 39
Views: 2100

Re: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir

dcornutt wrote:
August 18th, 2019, 1:47 am
Umathum from Austria is fun but that is not pinot right? St Laurent which I would guess is a cousin?
UMATHUM makes both - and the full range of varieties in addition. Excellent producer, not too expensive.
by Robert Sand
August 17th, 2019, 11:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir
Replies: 39
Views: 2100

Re: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir

Claus Jeppesen wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 8:44 am
I think that Keller Frauenberg is far the best in most vintages
at least not to my taste. I had the Frauenberg 2-3 times, and recently the Bürgel ... certainly good to very good, but I prefer other ones.
Also you have to pay for the Keller name, one of the greatest producers of dry Riesling.
by Robert Sand
August 17th, 2019, 7:47 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir
Replies: 39
Views: 2100

Re: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir

I don´t know which wines are exported to US, so no sense to go into details (Jürgen could elaborate further), but I often enjoyed among many others Stodden Herrenberg Bernhard Huber Spätburgunder (not the Reserve) Becker Muschelkalk/Rosenberg Meyer-Näkel (several) Dr.Heger Schlossberg and not to for...
by Robert Sand
August 17th, 2019, 7:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Drinking 30 year old NV brut Champagnes
Replies: 11
Views: 911

Re: Drinking 30 year old NV brut Champagnes

One of the greatest older NVs I've had was Moët & Chandon Brut Imperial, estimated to be from the early 1980's. Wonderfully alive and fresh with fine, silky mousse and beautifully developed, slightly caramelized flavors with nice deal of oxidative (not oxidized) character. I´ve had a lot of old spa...
by Robert Sand
August 17th, 2019, 2:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Health and white wine
Replies: 14
Views: 821

Re: Health and white wine

Regarding ‘moderate alcohol consumption’ - As well as the obvious affluence correlation I have long felt that the moderate aspect of it was a marker for control and self discipline generally. That is absolutely TRUE ! Actually I hate "really drunk persons" - those that cannot stand and speak anymor...
by Robert Sand
August 17th, 2019, 1:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Health and white wine
Replies: 14
Views: 821

Re: Health and white wine

And there are studies that suggest it's the alcohol itself that may be beneficial. I'm doubting this when you consider all the diseases and problems alcoholism causes, not to mention drunk drivers causing innocent deaths, increased suicide, shootings, and injuries caused by drinking too much. Still...
by Robert Sand
August 17th, 2019, 1:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir
Replies: 39
Views: 2100

Re: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir

I think Robert P. is right, the clones have an influence. Fürst can be fine, but 75+ Euro for the GG is high end, I have several GCs in Burgundy for less that I prefer. I forgot to mention Duijn, making outstanding PN (maybe a bit oaky in youth), despite being a young estate, but I don´t know if he ...
by Robert Sand
August 17th, 2019, 1:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Drinking 30 year old NV brut Champagnes
Replies: 11
Views: 911

Re: Drinking 30 year old NV brut Champagnes

I store most of my Champagne for several years, and also purchase older ones at auction - usually positiv to fine experiences, with some mean or off bottles, imo always depending on storage.
I love the toasty smooth taste of old Champagne, but not all the time.
by Robert Sand
August 15th, 2019, 5:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Coche Dury Meursault "Cote de Beaune"
Replies: 4
Views: 585

Re: Coche Dury Meursault "Cote de Beaune"

Meursault Cote de Baune is for red wine only - either from a Village Meursault plot with red vines or a declassified Premier Cru (red), for instance from young vines or lower qualiy.
by Robert Sand
August 15th, 2019, 4:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir
Replies: 39
Views: 2100

Re: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir

ADDITION: I think we should taste/drink/enjoy German Spätburgunder for what they are, they have imo an own character and are certainly very good, even outstanding, and NOT always to compare them with red Burgundies and use as a substitute. A good (not top) Spätburgunder for 20 € can be a better win...
by Robert Sand
August 15th, 2019, 1:44 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir
Replies: 39
Views: 2100

Re: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir

Can you please name some of the best Spaetburgunder worth trying? I have tried quite a few in the last year or so, but not systematically and not aiming at the very top. Most have been a disappointment, with some very good exceptions, in particular Bernhard Huber Bienenberg. I also enjoyed Enderle&...
by Robert Sand
August 14th, 2019, 8:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir
Replies: 39
Views: 2100

Re: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir

Hi Robert, I am German too and I live in German Pinot Land (Baden). I don't agree with you. I think you should taste Spätburgunder from young winemakers who took over from their fathers. There are plenty. And many of them worked in top Burgundy Domains during their education. So the winemaking styl...
by Robert Sand
August 14th, 2019, 6:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir
Replies: 39
Views: 2100

Re: German Spätburgunder vs Burgundy Pinot Noir

German 🇩🇪Spätburgunder vs Burgundy 🇫🇷Pinot Noir tasting. Both German and French wines were price matched to give it even more objectivity. That was so far the best and the most insightful tasting I did in 2019. Here are my top observations: 1️⃣ Späts are stylistically closer to each other even comi...
by Robert Sand
August 13th, 2019, 1:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which one?
Replies: 2
Views: 377

Re: Which one?

Lambrays.
Closer to maturity.
by Robert Sand
August 13th, 2019, 8:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2002 Domaine Michel Gros HCdN Bourgogne Rouge
Replies: 3
Views: 319

Re: 2002 Domaine Michel Gros HCdN Bourgogne Rouge

I immensely enjoy the wines of Michel Gros, from the low budget Hautes-Cotes-de-Nuits to the GC Clos Vougeot. The two 1er Crus Clos des Reas and Brulees are usually very fine, all age formidable. Sadly he lost the Richebourg to A-F Gros (after 1995). I do not understand the aversion against him here...
by Robert Sand
August 11th, 2019, 8:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What red/white blends have you tried?
Replies: 54
Views: 1493

Re: What red/white blends have you tried?

T Welch wrote:
August 10th, 2019, 2:47 pm
Chateauneuf-du-Pape and Chianti.
Does Cote-Rotie count?
Also in quite a few CdP is a tiny amount of white grapes, in Chianti less and less Canaiolo is used, but there are still some.
by Robert Sand
August 11th, 2019, 1:58 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which Burg would you go for? Daniel Rion '95 vs Domaine Fourrier '96
Replies: 34
Views: 1273

Re: Which Burg would you go for? Daniel Rion '95 vs Domaine Fourrier '96

Well, when I last stood in the Hautes Beaumont, with Patrice Rion, a look down to the right resulted in a view of the bowl that contained the Brulees and the Cros Parantoux. I suppose there might be areas of the BM that aren't neighbors exactly. But, the Hautes Beaux Monts is at the very top of the...
by Robert Sand
August 10th, 2019, 8:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which Burg would you go for? Daniel Rion '95 vs Domaine Fourrier '96
Replies: 34
Views: 1273

Re: Which Burg would you go for? Daniel Rion '95 vs Domaine Fourrier '96

Between Beaumonts and Malconsorts which is better and why? uh, very much depends on the producer, vintage. Leroy BM is top but very expensive, and BM has many fine producers. It is more minerally driven, stonier and with finesse. Malconsorts is meatier, fleshier, often more tannic and needs age. Be...
by Robert Sand
August 9th, 2019, 1:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which Burg would you go for? Daniel Rion '95 vs Domaine Fourrier '96
Replies: 34
Views: 1273

Re: Which Burg would you go for? Daniel Rion '95 vs Domaine Fourrier '96

However, I consider the Beaux Monts / Beaumonts to be the best 1er cru vineyard on the cote de Nuits generally, with some terrific producers involved in that vineyard, I also like Beaux Monts a lot, and voted accordingly, but I will rank it below a couple of other Vineyards (Malconsorts, Gaudichots...
by Robert Sand
August 5th, 2019, 6:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is it legitimate to post about expensive wines?
Replies: 90
Views: 4440

Re: Is it legitimate to post about expensive wines?

Everybody is entitled to post about more or less expensive wines here imo - it´s more about the reason and attitude. When the reason is to share informations and experiences I very much appreciate it. When it´s about showing off "look what we are able to open, how much we can spend per night/what we...
by Robert Sand
August 2nd, 2019, 12:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Outside of the Northern Rhone Box: Vin de Pays des Collines Rhodaniennes
Replies: 27
Views: 2056

Re: Outside of the Northern Rhone Box: Vin de Pays des Collines Rhodaniennes

This thread is 6+ years old - and I can only agree to what Gerhard wrote above then: a lot of enjoyable wines for everyday, but often lacking depth and complexity, so no real substitute for a Cote-Rotie, Hermitage or Cornas (which have still gone up in price) - but good values. I usually pay not mor...
by Robert Sand
July 29th, 2019, 7:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: All Natural Wine
Replies: 99
Views: 3094

Re: All Natural Wine

I’ve had good and bad natural wines. I can see the appeal for some. I’m not a big fan as I don’t trust them to be free of spoilage. I prefer wines with aged complexity and the risk associated with cellaring natural wines is too high. I’m all for sustainable and organic farming. And for minimal inte...
by Robert Sand
July 29th, 2019, 5:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Reconditioned Wine
Replies: 24
Views: 1313

Re: Reconditioned Wine

Charlie Carnes wrote:
July 29th, 2019, 4:51 am
I try to stay away from reconditioned bottles. The bottles that I have drunk almost always seem to me missing something.

It is interesting to hear Jeremy's story about topping those bottles and adding a dash of co2...
Not CO2 - SO2 ... sulfur. Reason for concern.
by Robert Sand
July 28th, 2019, 10:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2008 Buisson-Charles Meursault Les Tessons
Replies: 12
Views: 684

Re: TN: 2008 Buisson-Charles Meursault Les Tessons

Very fine producer - I prefer Les Tessons to their Meursault VV ...
should try the 08 again.
Chassagne En Remilly (I think) is one of their negociant offerings.
They usually have one barrel of Corton-Charlemagne!
by Robert Sand
July 27th, 2019, 2:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2009 Château Mont-Redon Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Replies: 1
Views: 235

Re: TN: 2009 Château Mont-Redon Châteauneuf-du-Pape

... and maybe open it well in advance.
Mont Redon is always a good, rarely great producer, often seen in French restaurants - and usually much more accessible.
by Robert Sand
July 27th, 2019, 1:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1985 Château L'Evangile (France, Bordeaux, Libournais, Pomerol)
Replies: 10
Views: 542

Re: TN: 1985 Château L'Evangile (France, Bordeaux, Libournais, Pomerol)

This was one of the standouts in a L´Evangile/Conseillante tasting some years ago, together with the 1990, 1998 and 1975 ...
I had rated it higher, 95 points...

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