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by Jonathan Loesberg
August 17th, 2019, 8:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2015 Balthazar from Juge vines.
Replies: 19
Views: 807

Re: 2015 Balthazar from Juge vines.

I wouldn't bet more than I could afford to lose that this is correct. I seem to remember hims saying something of the sort during the course of a long tasting at the end of the day. My [mis]interpretation of what he might have said might also have been affected by the fact that I have spoken to more...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 17th, 2019, 1:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2015 Balthazar from Juge vines.
Replies: 19
Views: 807

Re: 2015 Balthazar from Juge vines.

I tasted his 17 sans souffre with him last May. It was great, but he gave me the impression he had no intention to export it. Sans souffre does make a wine more fresh--until it doesn't.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 15th, 2019, 8:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: I’m New and have 1,000 Questions
Replies: 105
Views: 4711

Re: I’m New and have 1,000 Questions

I agree. Robert Kacher would be a better bet for him as an importer to check out.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 12th, 2019, 12:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Domaine la Fourmone
Replies: 3
Views: 268

Re: Domaine la Fourmone

Fourmone makes very good wines. I happily drink them in restaurants in the area of Vacqueyras. I think there are plenty of better wines for a couple of euros more though.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 10th, 2019, 8:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 510
Views: 25414

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

I buy many fewer bottles, but do spend more money. This is fine with me. I have no children so my retirement money is mine to spend, but I have no children so leaving wine to heirs is not a certainty.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 9th, 2019, 7:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: AFWE confessions - aka let us make Alfert feel better
Replies: 88
Views: 2970

Re: AFWE confessions - aka let us make Alfert feel better

Anyone can confess to liking anti-AFWE wines if, in fact, that's what they like. Or recount once liking them now that they no longer do. Or even liking wines that other AFWE people don't like, even though they think of themselves as AFWE (taste being screwy in the way that it is). If we want to make...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 3rd, 2019, 7:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 510
Views: 25414

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

To the extent that you care, Maureen, just explain how the inventorying led to fewer bottles and I, Judge Jonathan, will make a ruling as to whether it counts as consumption or loss due to prior miscalculation (either way, it's a genuine cellara reduction). But, as an IRS specialist, I am sure you a...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 2nd, 2019, 7:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: De Moor I drink their wines, the bigger fan of theirs I become
Replies: 8
Views: 609

Re: TN: De Moor I drink their wines, the bigger fan of theirs I become

scamhi wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 5:01 am
I also love De Moor and have been a buyer for a few years. I think they make one of the best San Bris or San Bruit in addition to the aligote and chablis
St. Bris, from the nearby village, St. Bris le Vineux.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 1st, 2019, 7:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 510
Views: 25414

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

Bought 12 (almost all sparkling, i.e., Rhys and 08 Bolly), consumed 20. Now true some of that was due to some inventorying but that counts, right? Dunno. How does inventory produce consumption? If your inventory showed you as having fewer bottles than you thought you had, maybe because you drank so...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 31st, 2019, 7:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 510
Views: 25414

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

I'm not sure eviscerating one's cellar should count. You just rid yourself of more wine, by an order of magnitude or two, than many of us own.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 31st, 2019, 7:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who's going to wear the black hat?
Replies: 121
Views: 4140

Re: Who's going to wear the black hat?

Well, on another board, and for different reasons no longer with us, one might note Robert Callahan (alive, but no longer posting), Joe Dressner and Chris Coad (alas both deceased). Again, this is off the top of my head. A careful look would yield more.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 31st, 2019, 7:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who's going to wear the black hat?
Replies: 121
Views: 4140

Re: Who's going to wear the black hat?

It's true, I have higher standards. One can start with Lincoln, Pater, Ruskin, Stanton. In the 20th century, and limiting oneself to non-fiction prose, one might note Didion, Capote, McGibbon. Among philosophers, one might note Hobbes and Nietzsche as just a start. In legal prose, there's Scalia (da...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 30th, 2019, 10:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who's going to wear the black hat?
Replies: 121
Views: 4140

Re: Who's going to wear the black hat?

I always wondered what happened to Rick Gregory. He never seemed particularly offensive either. Agree, and his absence is a loss for the wine forum. Can we put to rest the notion that Klapp was “just a misunderstood character” who was otherwise entertaining and had a lot of knowledge to offer? Whet...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 27th, 2019, 8:03 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Complex wines and simple ingredients are kind of boring!
Replies: 33
Views: 1235

Re: Complex wines and simple ingredients are kind of boring!

Although I agree with the advice of drinking what you want to, the OP does seem to want suggestions of more complex meals to go with complex wines, particularly Bordeaux and Burgundy. The obvious answer is to explore more classic French cooking, for example from Julia Child's two volumes of Masterin...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 26th, 2019, 12:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Provence trip
Replies: 15
Views: 854

Re: Provence trip

Kim Z wrote:
July 26th, 2019, 12:26 pm
I second the restaurant in La Mirande hotel in Avignon and recommend trying white CdP while there.

We also enjoyed Domaine de la Mordorée in Tavel (though it felt very much like Southern California!)
Must have been their wines.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 26th, 2019, 11:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who's going to wear the black hat?
Replies: 121
Views: 4140

Re: Who's going to wear the black hat?

One of the few things Antonin Scalia said that I agreed with is "I attack ideas, I don't attack people." He may not have always lived up to that, but it's not a bad ideal. It also elucidates the difference between a vigorous exchange of ideas and a boorish, insulting, condescending remark. I underst...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 25th, 2019, 11:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's critic bingo! ("vertical in feel")
Replies: 794
Views: 37097

Re: It's critic bingo! ("vertical in feel")

Long before the elite referred to a supposed intellectual elite, it referred to a privileged class, and although cultural distinctions attached to that class (one of which was a taste for expensive wine), the significant distinction was wealth (or, in England, wealth held for more than one generatio...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 25th, 2019, 10:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's critic bingo! ("vertical in feel")
Replies: 794
Views: 37097

Re: It's critic bingo! ("vertical in feel")

Actually, the ability to afford expensive goods priced only to be obtainable by the wealthy and the willingness to buy such good is a completely sufficient cause of elitism, though not a necessary one. There is also intellectual elitism, of course. In either case, the activity is either available to...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 25th, 2019, 9:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's critic bingo! ("vertical in feel")
Replies: 794
Views: 37097

Re: It's critic bingo! ("vertical in feel")

I take Keith's point both about Klimt and about elitism. People who drink 1st growth bordeaux should not accuse others of elitism. They live in one of the largest glass houses on the block. I don’t thinking drinking First Growths on special occasions, especially when they were bought years ago at y...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 25th, 2019, 9:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who's going to wear the black hat?
Replies: 121
Views: 4140

Re: Who's going to wear the black hat?

I further apologize, Alan, that it took me three sentences (not until "use it, dumb-ass") to realize what you were doing. Such slowness merits being trolled and questions Neal's claim.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 25th, 2019, 8:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who's going to wear the black hat?
Replies: 121
Views: 4140

Re: Who's going to wear the black hat?

I apologize for repeating myself. I was trying to correct a typo and I'm told I'm not allowed to delete posts. Apologies to all.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 25th, 2019, 7:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who's going to wear the black hat?
Replies: 121
Views: 4140

Re: Who's going to wear the black hat?

Alan wasn't really the pest Klapp was. He said absurd things, but he was pretty cheerful (with some exceptions) about the resulting uproar. Bill pontificated, was think skinned, and, worst of all, was rarely surprising, which was not Alan's sin, if he had one.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 23rd, 2019, 1:35 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: New Wine-Centric Title for our Fearless Leader?
Replies: 45
Views: 1437

Re: New Wine-Centric Title for our Fearless Leader?

D@ve D y r 0 f f wrote:
July 22nd, 2019, 5:42 pm
Berserker in Chief
Chiefly berserk.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 20th, 2019, 8:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Provence trip
Replies: 15
Views: 854

Re: Provence trip

Charvin has an assistant named Fanny who welcomes visitors when Laurent isn't available. I don't know how her English is as we only speak in French. If you can, it's better to make an appointment as you will get a much richer visit that way.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 20th, 2019, 8:16 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pronunciation
Replies: 40
Views: 1444

Re: Pronunciation

JFK might have said, pahk the cah in hahvahd yahd, as we think of the accent. Cliff on Cheers would have sounded rather different. No argument, there are many variations on all sorts of accents. It didn't decrease the efficacy of that trick with my students. Tying back to my original point, though,...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 19th, 2019, 11:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pronunciation
Replies: 40
Views: 1444

Re: Pronunciation

JFK might have said, pahk the cah in hahvahd yahd, as we think of the accent. Cliff on Cheers would have sounded rather different.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 19th, 2019, 10:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pronunciation
Replies: 40
Views: 1444

Re: Pronunciation

Ear does have something to do with it. Even disregarding things like vocal placement and variations in how the mouth forms sounds in English versus French, that vowel sound doesn't exist in most American accents and dialects. I've spent a lot of time taking and teaching speech classes for the theat...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 19th, 2019, 8:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pronunciation
Replies: 40
Views: 1444

Re: Pronunciation

Here's a reasonable American pronunciation of pop: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=pop+pronunciation There is, of course, a difference between this and the French pronunciation of pape: https://forvo.com/word/le_pape/ But it is really rather subtle. It would take more than one t...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 19th, 2019, 7:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pronunciation
Replies: 40
Views: 1444

Re: Pronunciation

Gerhard P. wrote:
July 19th, 2019, 6:48 am
pahpp ...

(not pop)
These sounds are clearly closer than you think in spoken English.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 19th, 2019, 6:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pronunciation
Replies: 40
Views: 1444

Re: Pronunciation

YLee wrote:
July 19th, 2019, 5:57 am
Chateauneuf-du-pape. Not 'Pop'
I'm not sure how you are pronouncing pape, but pop isn't a bad English approximation. It's true that the vowel sound should be more like ah, as when the doctor says say ah, but it should definitely not be like the "a" in Maverick's old pappy.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 12th, 2019, 1:02 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 247
Views: 13587

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good

Parker was brilliant to close his board to non-subscribers and to have Squires run the board like a tyrant. I mean, it sucked for those of us who were non-subscribers or didn't line up with his wine preferences, but the dude sold his company for $15M by positioning himself as the supreme arbiter of...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 12th, 2019, 6:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1998 Bel Air-Marquis d'Aligre
Replies: 14
Views: 1099

Re: 1998 Bel Air-Marquis d'Aligre

It is pretty amazing that vintages like 1995, 1996 and 2000 still can be found for sub 50 $ in EU And older vintages like 1970 for sub 150$ Thanks for the note and the comments I paid the extraordinary 1947 "only" 150 euros. Drunk at this level 5 times. One of the greatest wines of the twentieth ce...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 10th, 2019, 1:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 247
Views: 13587

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good

I don't see how Parker could have done better than he did and that he did that well has little to do with his handling of the board. From the 90s on, it was clear that what Parker envisioned was an heir apparent, to whom he would turn over the magazine, hoping it would keep its subscription base. Th...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 10th, 2019, 10:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 247
Views: 13587

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good

Parker was brilliant to close his board to non-subscribers and to have Squires run the board like a tyrant. I mean, it sucked for those of us who were non-subscribers or didn't line up with his wine preferences, but the dude sold his company for $15M by positioning himself as the supreme arbiter of...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 9th, 2019, 12:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A wine tasting contest superior: Vincent Price vs. Peter Loire
Replies: 16
Views: 868

Re: A wine tasting contest superior: Vincent Price vs. Peter Loire

Who walls up whom in the end? Or are they not the main characters?
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 9th, 2019, 11:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How much effect is global warming having on Bordeaux?
Replies: 23
Views: 1163

Re: How much effect is global warming having on Bordeaux?

It's surely true that you could make high alcohol overripe wine before global warming, but I'm not sure the reverse is true. As the summers heat up, it gets harder and harder to produce what we think of as traditional wines. In CuP wines below 14, even among the most traditional producers is a thin...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 8th, 2019, 4:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How much effect is global warming having on Bordeaux?
Replies: 23
Views: 1163

Re: How much effect is global warming having on Bordeaux?

It's surely true that you could make high alcohol overripe wine before global warming, but I'm not sure the reverse is true. As the summers heat up, it gets harder and harder to produce what we think of as traditional wines. In CuP wines below 14, even among the most traditional producers is a thing...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 5th, 2019, 1:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What are you drinking in homage of the demise of eBob? 1995 Ch. Bel-Air Marquis d’Aligre for me.
Replies: 51
Views: 2141

Re: What are you drinking in homage of the demise of eBob? 1995 Ch. Bel-Air Marquis d’Aligre for me.

The reason you may be less aware of that is that you were probably looking at Parker to find you good wines that you didn't know about or read his view of the whole line up of bordeaux or whatever. And for that, if your tastes were AFWE, he was like a stopped clock. He could be right, but you could...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 5th, 2019, 8:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What are you drinking in homage of the demise of eBob? 1995 Ch. Bel-Air Marquis d’Aligre for me.
Replies: 51
Views: 2141

Re: What are you drinking in homage of the demise of eBob? 1995 Ch. Bel-Air Marquis d’Aligre for me.

Do you both think that was true in the later stages of his career? I do not. I followed Parker for years, say 1992-2000, then took a wine hiatus. I came back in/around 2005, joined eBob and reads his review, and either his palate was quite different, mine was, the market changed, or more likely, al...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 5th, 2019, 6:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What are you drinking in homage of the demise of eBob? 1995 Ch. Bel-Air Marquis d’Aligre for me.
Replies: 51
Views: 2141

Re: What are you drinking in homage of the demise of eBob? 1995 Ch. Bel-Air Marquis d’Aligre for me.

Jurgen is right that Parker did like some (I emphasize some) front line traditional producers. On another board, I once argued against using the principle that if Parker gave it a good review one should stay away as condemning one to stay away from too many great wines. But once one left those front...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 5th, 2019, 5:56 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Retailer Ghosting Incident
Replies: 79
Views: 6531

Re: Retailer Ghosting Incident

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 4th, 2019, 6:56 pm
Arv R wrote:
July 4th, 2019, 5:10 pm
I seem to remember Bill Klapp posting about issues with this seller as well.

Are you trying to make me feel sorry for Max?
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. As much as one can tell from thread exchanges, Bill was justified in his complaints in this case. It happens.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 4th, 2019, 3:40 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 247
Views: 13587

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good

hahaha, you guys need a life or 2 hypocrisy must be a touchy one when dancing on the WA/MS BB's grave when talking about $$$ a celebration of life would be more appropriate add that to being offended or someone will be offended for you cheers PS. there is no regular programming anymore, Cronkite is...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 4th, 2019, 2:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 247
Views: 13587

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good

hahaha, you guys need a life or 2 hypocrisy must be a touchy one when dancing on the WA/MS BB's grave when talking about $$$ a celebration of life would be more appropriate add that to being offended or someone will be offended for you cheers PS. there is no regular programming anymore, Cronkite is...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 4th, 2019, 1:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 247
Views: 13587

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good

Is it welcoming now? Seems quite clicky, but I get that it fills a niche for some. It's still clicky and, unfortunately, not as vital as it once was as few of its most valuable participants and friends of mine, have died. But on the positive side it’s not as clicky and idiosyncratic as Todd experie...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 4th, 2019, 6:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 510
Views: 25414

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 5:56 pm
Jonathan Loesberg wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 4:26 pm
Anyone can make rules. As Monty Python might say, these are the rules that are mine. No one has to follow them.
Especially you.
Well, of course, people don't have to follow their own rules. If they did, legislatures and the judiciary couldn't exist. I do follow mine, though.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 3rd, 2019, 4:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 510
Views: 25414

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

Anyone can make rules. As Monty Python might say, these are the rules that are mine. No one has to follow them.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 2nd, 2019, 8:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 510
Views: 25414

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

As someone who doesn't play this game here (though I do want to reduce my cellar), my rules say that futures count as do wines bought for someone else. The issue is wines in and wines out. Futures will be coming in, even if they aren't there yet. On the other hand, those wines for someone else will ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 1st, 2019, 1:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 247
Views: 13587

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good

The kind of back and forth between Jeff Leve and Robert Alfert, Do I have to choose between them???? [scratch.gif] [wow.gif] Yes, absolutely. It would be a complete harshing of a perfectly good mellow to avoid further inciting their Abbot and Costello routine as much as humanly possible.
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 1st, 2019, 11:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: books ?
Replies: 21
Views: 1243

Re: books ?

Give up all these new-fangled books. Read or reread anything by M.F.K. Fisher
by Jonathan Loesberg
July 1st, 2019, 11:03 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 510
Views: 25414

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

Diane Kessler wrote:
July 1st, 2019, 9:52 am
Bought 9 bottles this month and consumed 15. Five are rose and Champagne - I'm not sure if I should count those. The important thing is I am still going in the right direction
Give the 9 you bought to Jay. Although he has deluded himself into thinking he's OK, he's clearly running short.

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