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by Jonathan Loesberg
May 18th, 2019, 11:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: If you have 250 or more btls in your cellar, why are u not on CT?
Replies: 113
Views: 3345

Re: If you have 250 or more btls in your cellar, why are u not on CT?

Because I'm too lazy to spend time keeping it up to date and I have a good memory and it keeps decent track of my cellar. This may be the shorter version of what Neal said.
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 16th, 2019, 11:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

Alas staying away from wines Jeff likes does not work any better for me than staying away from all wnes Parker did. That would mean I would never drink Rayas, Charvin, Ferrand, Pegau in CdP. I am not a big bordeaux person but I doubt it would work any better for me there. The method does seem to lea...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 13th, 2019, 10:39 am
Forum: Epicurean Exploits
Topic: Using corked wine making Coq au vin
Replies: 44
Views: 1072

Re: Coq au vin

My usual cooking wine is some budget wine that I would drink if put in front of me, such as La Vielle Ferme. I have never seen the point of cooking with ritzy wine, and I have tried it more than once. With regard to using corked wine, use it with whatever recipe you are using. Really, for whatever r...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 13th, 2019, 6:34 am
Forum: Epicurean Exploits
Topic: Using corked wine making Coq au vin
Replies: 44
Views: 1072

Re: Coq au vin

I've cooked beef bourguignon with corked wine and it worked perfectly. It was a barolo by the way. Despite what cook books say, I consider it a waste to use very good wine in cooking since after high heat, they tend to come out the same. Some time ago, the NY times tested recipes with cru wines and ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 13th, 2019, 6:05 am
Forum: Epicurean Exploits
Topic: Using corked wine making Coq au vin
Replies: 44
Views: 1072

Re: Coq au vin

I use corked wine to cook with regularly and the corked flavor cooks right out. I don't know the reason why, but it works perfectly well as long as the wine is thoroughly cooked.
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 12th, 2019, 10:58 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Bel Air Marquis d'Aligre 1995 and 1996
Replies: 65
Views: 2013

Re: Bel Air Marquis d'Aligre 1995 and 1996

Here is a translation in English rather than google speak: M. Boyer speaks in skillfully sinuous phrases. When he speaks he draws frescoes, large memory panels that end up coming together to make up integral wholes. His wine is like that. Hiding in plain sight. A pure presence that obeys no current ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 12th, 2019, 10:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's critic bingo! ("vertical in feel")
Replies: 630
Views: 30554

Re: It's critic bingo! ("pixelated fruit")

I thought it was pretty clear I was playing around and not criticizing Charlie or anyone else. But given Caligula, I'm fine with all the connections with sex and chocolate.
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 12th, 2019, 1:02 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's critic bingo! ("vertical in feel")
Replies: 630
Views: 30554

Re: It's critic bingo! ("pixelated fruit")

Surely caligulated means to be turned into a Caligula like person. Is this a good thing for a wine? Or for a person for that matter?
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 11th, 2019, 8:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Copper Sulfate vs. Possible GMO Vines
Replies: 6
Views: 270

Re: Copper Sulfate vs. Possible GMO Vines

Fear is a powerful motivator. There are many other elements, such as the demonization (somewhat justified) of companies that trade in GMO seeds and plants, and a tendency to hold onto traditions past the point where the traditions have retained any real use (cork anyone?). Heck, many people are com...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 11th, 2019, 1:44 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

But resistance to GMOs is the leftist version of science denial. This is not always true. Some people oppose GMOs because of the way they are patented and used (some would say abused) by corporations. If the motives behind GMO development were always humanitarian, public opinion might be different....
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 10th, 2019, 11:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

So, in sum, copper sulfate is neither a consequence of biodynamic regulations nor of organic regulations but of what was perceived to be winemaking necessity. I agree with Jayson that GMO's could offer an environmentally friendly solution. But resistance to GMOs is the leftist version of science den...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 10th, 2019, 4:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

Copper is antimicrobial. That's why it's in high end athletic gear to kill off aroma causing bacteria. At high enough levels, it kills off the soil microbiome. It also accumulates with time. People talk of the soil being more sterile than the Sahara. With build up of copper, this will be the case. ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 9th, 2019, 8:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2005 Domaine de la Pépière (Marc Ollivier) Muscadet de Sèvre-et-Maine Sur Lie Vieilles Vignes Clos des Briords
Replies: 28
Views: 859

Re: TN: 2005 Domaine de la Pépière (Marc Ollivier) Muscadet de Sèvre-et-Maine Sur Lie Vieilles Vignes Clos des Briords

I"ll have to get back to the states to do an inventory of what I have in the way of aged Clisson, Briords and L d'Or. I'm pretty sure I have the L d'Or in 02 and 05. The Briords maybe back to 05. I think I have a bottle of 07 Clisson, and I'm sure I have some 09s. If we wait until my next business t...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 9th, 2019, 2:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

Bordeaux mixture. Copper sulfate. Adding heavy metals to the environment is never good. As bad as spraying lead paint around. It's the only allowed treatment for Oidium allowed by the Biodynamic certifiers. There are far more environmentally friendly antifungals which disintegrate in a few days, bu...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 9th, 2019, 1:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2005 Domaine de la Pépière (Marc Ollivier) Muscadet de Sèvre-et-Maine Sur Lie Vieilles Vignes Clos des Briords
Replies: 28
Views: 859

Re: TN: 2005 Domaine de la Pépière (Marc Ollivier) Muscadet de Sèvre-et-Maine Sur Lie Vieilles Vignes Clos des Briords

I've only had the 05 Clissson once, courtesy of Ian. Neither the 07 nor the 09 quite matched it for me. I found one of my last bottles of the 07 to be flabbier without having developed anything to compensate for that loss. The 09 is still doing beautifully. But, on balance, while I'll still age my C...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 8th, 2019, 2:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

I'm not Eric, but I think he means it is low yielding. Also it's risky as it difficult to combat pests and diseases without the aid of chemicals. Result low or sometimes no yield for a given area of land. With the relative shortage of land and the growing global demand due to rising population, low...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 3rd, 2019, 5:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

And others by Hardy Rodenstock.
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 2nd, 2019, 11:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

So this debate has gone in a different direction since I signed off for the night and I've had this argument many times before, but I will answer Gerhard and Sarah, who both throw the word objectivity around with more casualness than I think the case merits. In Gerhard's case, he says he can tell hi...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 2nd, 2019, 10:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

I tempted to think anyone who finds any Guigal wine a good value, is just a Francophile and doesn't actually have any taste. Josh, I tempted to think anyone who denies that Guigal produced and produces outstanding wines doesn't actually have any taste! One may not like them - but to state it´s no g...
by Jonathan Loesberg
May 2nd, 2019, 1:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9752

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

how about the entire appellation of CdP? Word. CdP seemed like it was in such a race to go big and unctuous to satisfy the Parker palate as he aged that it overshot consumer preferences by about 3 or 4 standard deviations of bigness. I'm hoping there is an aggressive style correction over the next ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 27th, 2019, 10:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Poll: what do you mean when you write "struck match" as a descriptor?
Replies: 16
Views: 665

Re: Poll: what do you mean when you write "struck match" as a descriptor?

I call the odor I think people are talking about as gunpowder. Think of it as the sulfurous fumes of Hell.
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 24th, 2019, 10:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: New Guy disillusioned with WA
Replies: 167
Views: 8232

Re: New Guy disillusioned with WA

It's true that evaluation is, ultimately, irreducibly subjective. Even evaluation of art. If one took a poll, it's a good bet that most people would prefer Tom Clancy to Proust. Despite that, literary scholars go on attending to Proust and not to Tom Clancy. That may make them (us) just another in g...
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 24th, 2019, 1:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's critic bingo! ("vertical in feel")
Replies: 630
Views: 30554

Re: It's critic bingo! ("pixelated fruit")

But that pixelated red fruit note. Just what. Yes I've been curious about that too. Sometimes it's been rendered as "pixilated" "Pixelated" and "pixilated" are different words. The first means what it is used to mean in this thread, fruit appearance reproduced by pixels. Why this would be thought t...
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 22nd, 2019, 10:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2000 Chateau Grand Puy Lacoste, Pauillac
Replies: 45
Views: 1651

Re: TN: 2000 Chateau Grand Puy Lacoste, Pauillac

You can tell the poster who is the top notch lawyer. pileon Very precise use of the English language and pretty spot on. [cheers.gif] [thankyou.gif] [winner.gif] I agree, which is why none of my questions were for him. Alfret seems to understand GPL perfectly. It is the rest of BDX he needs help wi...
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 22nd, 2019, 7:12 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: We pay 30% more to buy to buy a bottle of Taylor Port in the US.
Replies: 17
Views: 1111

Re: We pay 30% more to buy to buy a bottle of Taylor Port in the US.

I once arranged to import 50 cases of wine. After everything, including US taxes, it was about $3 a bottle. That was in 2002, so add on inflation, but subtract economies of scale for a professional importer. But they are charging you for their services, including finding the wine (the best importers...
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 20th, 2019, 10:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Back on the Rhone wagon again!
Replies: 11
Views: 1309

Re: Back on the Rhone wagon again!

You can still find Gramenon, but it's stunningly cher. The Ceps Centenaire, which I remember buying from a Kacher tasting on the early 90s for certainly less than $15 now costs in the high $60s in New York. I have to say I haven't tasted it since I drank up the case I bought from that tasting, no do...
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 3rd, 2019, 7:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2012 Domaine de la Pépière (Marc Ollivier) Muscadet de Sèvre-et-Maine Clisson
Replies: 22
Views: 725

Re: TN: 2012 Domaine de la Pépière (Marc Ollivier) Muscadet de Sèvre-et-Maine Clisson

There are three Muscadets that I have in numbers in my cellar, Pepiere Briords, Pepiere Clisson and Luneau-Papin L d'Or. I've never even given a thought as to which I preferred. I wouldn't want to be without any of the 3.
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 1st, 2019, 2:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: My Chateauneuf and sushi epiphany
Replies: 6
Views: 779

Re: My Chateauneuf and sushi epiphany

Jay,

Please email me. I have, as you know, a fairly large collection of CdPs.I would be happy to do a trade. Although I can't quite stomach the idea of drinking them with sushi, I'm entranced to see that you've come around.
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 1st, 2019, 2:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine as a Veblen Good?
Replies: 75
Views: 2179

Re: Wine as a Veblen Good?

I will never buy Sceaming Eagle, anything owned by LVMH (Château Cheval Blanc, Château d'Yquem, Dom Perignon, Veuve Clicquot, Ruinart, Krug), E. Guigal, M. Chapoutier, Groupe Artémis (Château Latour), Constellation Brands (Mondavi and Opus), or Penfolds Grange as the conspicuous consumption is one ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
April 1st, 2019, 12:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine as a Veblen Good?
Replies: 75
Views: 2179

Re: Wine as a Veblen Good?

For a product to be a true Veblen good, its demand must increase as a result of its price increasing because the higher price makes it a status symbol. Issues of supply are not relevant. This may be true of Cristal, for all I know, but it is surely not true for high end Burgundy where at least some ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 21st, 2019, 7:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Foreign Language CT Notes
Replies: 57
Views: 1528

Re: Foreign Language CT Notes

I never understood people that demand everyone to speak or write in English. I see this a lot of this behavior when I travel outside of the States. Some people go to, for example Ecuador, and complain the locals dont speak English. "If they want tourists to come to support their economy, they shoul...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 20th, 2019, 11:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Foreign Language CT Notes
Replies: 57
Views: 1528

Re: Foreign Language CT Notes

Matthew.Rashbrook wrote:
March 20th, 2019, 10:17 am
alan weinberg wrote:
March 19th, 2019, 8:52 pm
J’aime beaucoup les notes français.
Moi aussi! Bonne Journee internationale de la Francophonie. champagne.gif
Note is feminine. Notes françaises.
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 20th, 2019, 7:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Foreign Language CT Notes
Replies: 57
Views: 1528

Re: Foreign Language CT Notes

Well, I prefer to understand things rather than not to. On the other hand, you can't reasonably fault people for using whatever language they choose. The obvious solution is to learn the language in question. I understand they teach these things in various places.
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 18th, 2019, 12:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is a "polished" wine
Replies: 52
Views: 1255

Re: What is a "polished" wine

For me, as I use the term, it’s a round textured wine with no hard edges, obvious flaws or dryness in the finish. Polished is in the fruit and tannins, not the oak. It’s a positive term. This starts to persuade me that the term is a communicative one. Jeff sees it as a descriptor in much the same w...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 18th, 2019, 8:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is a "polished" wine
Replies: 52
Views: 1255

Re: What is a "polished" wine

Although I use the term negatively and I also don't like either oak or overextraction, those are not the features I associate with the term.I usually mean a wine that tastes smoothed out, with glossy tannins, low acid and a rounded feel so that it can be drunk young easily. I am not knowledgeable en...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 15th, 2019, 6:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Dirty tricks & 2010 Château de Pibarnon Bandol
Replies: 10
Views: 544

Re: Dirty tricks & 2010 Château de Pibarnon Bandol

I'm impressed that they all wanted to say the same wine in different vintages or from different vineyards. I probably would have guessed one to be a bordeaux and the other a barolo. Blind tastings are humbling.
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 7th, 2019, 8:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How much would you pay for ultimate wine ?
Replies: 29
Views: 1670

Re: How much would you pay for ultimate wine ?

No one wine would ever be perfect for me. The next day I might want some other kind of wine. I don't think I've ever paid as much as $100 for a wine and I don't expect to start now. There are too many wines that give too much pleasure for way less.
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 5th, 2019, 1:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Raffault - Chinon-Picasses vertical - 1979-2011 (updated with 85, 89, 90)
Replies: 52
Views: 2150

Re: TN: Raffault - Chinon-Picasses vertical - 1979-2011 (updated with 85, 89, 90)

I'm glad I jumped on them instead of dithering, as I usually do.
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 4th, 2019, 11:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!
Replies: 66
Views: 2348

Re: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!

My answer would be no. Reasons include: 1) Gigondas always seems a little more rustic to me 2) They do not age very long. You really need to be careful how long you cellar them. 3) They don't really improve that much with age 4) I have never had one that remotely came close to a 1998 Donjon or an 8...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 4th, 2019, 6:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!
Replies: 66
Views: 2348

Re: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!

... Gerhard's drinking practices will work well for a handful of CdPs, though I think he might profitably start cracking his 04s, 05s and 06s. ... Absolutely no need to! 1) that might be the case if I had nothing else to drink ... [cheers.gif] 2) I get enough wines, incl. CdPs, to drink/taste that ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 3rd, 2019, 8:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!
Replies: 66
Views: 2348

Re: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!

I really think a distinction needs to be drawn here. Gerhard's drinking practices will work well for a handful of CdPs, though I think he might profitably start cracking his 04s, 05s and 06s. It would not work for almost all Gigondases. Most of them are, for me, at their peak at between eight and tw...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 2nd, 2019, 6:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Do you double decant before BYO to restaurants?
Replies: 57
Views: 1960

Re: Do you double decant before BYO to restaurants?

I don't often double decant, but I always open the bottle at home first to see if the wine is corked or otherwise tainted. I also don't trust most restaurants to get old corks out. They use waiter's friends and destroy corks quite frequently (of course, they do then decant through a filter). So I ha...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 1st, 2019, 11:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!
Replies: 66
Views: 2348

Re: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!

Yes, I should not have forgotten Bois de Boursan. Les Cailloux is a different case. Through the early to mid 90s, it was a wine that aged. Although there was no change in winemakers, something changed in 1998, which died an early ignominious death. I was still buying as late as 01 and those bottles ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 1st, 2019, 7:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!
Replies: 66
Views: 2348

Re: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!

Beaucastel, Vieux Telegraphe, Pegau, Charvin and Mourre du Tendre are, at the very least, long agers. Prior to 03, so were Clos des Papes and Vieux Donjon. There are some others. But mdoern overripe styles do not do as well, I think. And really, CdP is no different than anywhere else in having a sma...
by Jonathan Loesberg
March 1st, 2019, 6:37 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How about some good Vacqueyras?
Replies: 24
Views: 892

Re: How about some good Vacqueyras?

Oh, and I have been very impressed by d'Ouréa, both the Vacqueyras and the Gigondas. I wish one could find it easily here. I'm surprised it has not been picked up by a major importer.
by Jonathan Loesberg
February 28th, 2019, 7:02 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!
Replies: 66
Views: 2348

Re: Gigondas is More Enjoyable than Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Fight me!

As with anything else, it depends on which Gigondas and which CdP. The list you give is (mostly) one of traditional producers. As a wild generalization, I would say that Gigondas producers are much more enamored of oak then even the spoofiest CdP special cuvees. St. Cosme and Santa Duc are particula...
by Jonathan Loesberg
February 26th, 2019, 11:02 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine drinking in France sucks poll
Replies: 47
Views: 1851

Re: Wine drinking in France sucks poll

What would anyone think if a European came to the US and wrote the following: I went to California where the food and wine is all supposed to be fabulous. I went into a restaurant that seems to be very popular called Applebees. The food was very mediocre and the wine list terrible. Then, the next n...
by Jonathan Loesberg
February 25th, 2019, 8:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Can old wine ever make you sick
Replies: 28
Views: 1431

Re: Can old wine ever make you sick

Old wine, taken in sufficient quantities, produces all the symptoms of intoxication. Intoxication makes you feel ill the next morning. So old wines can make you feel ill.
by Jonathan Loesberg
February 25th, 2019, 7:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine drinking in France sucks
Replies: 287
Views: 14288

Re: Wine drinking in France sucks

Mark-ups in the US are the same or less than France, more like 3x than 4x. But the base of the mark-up is much higher. I don't know what it's like in Burgundy, but in the Rhone, it's about 2-3X the price from the domaine. Since that price is usually half what US retail is, the result is that the pri...
by Jonathan Loesberg
February 22nd, 2019, 11:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How many bottles of 750ml bottles for 35 people?
Replies: 62
Views: 2075

Re: How many bottles of 750ml bottles for 35 people?

"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom...You never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough." Blake. And he would know.

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