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by Jonathan Loesberg
December 5th, 2019, 12:43 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 684
Views: 34836

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

The issue is what the markup on taxes (or duties) should be ( versus the good itself); and to repeat this is before consideration of what the market will bear. What the market will bear is the only "should be" in capitalism. From the perspective of the importers and various others along the distrib...
by Jonathan Loesberg
December 4th, 2019, 3:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1157

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Or even whiskey.
by Jonathan Loesberg
December 4th, 2019, 1:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1157

Re: Wine from Normandy?

I told you people. The facts are not in dispute. The argument over definition is circular. Have fun, though.
by Jonathan Loesberg
December 4th, 2019, 6:58 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1157

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Think Calvados or Armagnac for Normandy. These are more like cognac than like wine and a good Armagnsc will be nearer $100. You should be able to find Calvados for $40-50. If you want wine, given what you and she like, I'd look for a Bordeaux. Uh ... Armagnac is from Gascony, not Normandy. Other en...
by Jonathan Loesberg
December 3rd, 2019, 3:41 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1157

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Think Calvados or Armagnac for Normandy. These are more like cognac than like wine and a good Armagnsc will be nearer $100. You should be able to find Calvados for $40-50. If you want wine, given what you and she like, I'd look for a Bordeaux.
by Jonathan Loesberg
December 2nd, 2019, 9:12 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines
Replies: 23
Views: 1545

Re: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines

Biodynamics is a system of agriculture, based on Steiner. While it is coincident with organic practices in the vineyard, it includes a lot of other practices that have nothing to do with that. As a matter of elevage, it allows use of oak and a whole lot of other practices that natural wine would not...
by Jonathan Loesberg
December 2nd, 2019, 6:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines
Replies: 23
Views: 1545

Re: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines

Now I know why everyone has been asking me about natural wine during the holiday. I wish people would stop writing about it so I could enjoy dinner without having to deal with questions about burying a bull's horn full of shit in the middle of the vineyard. This is biodynamic wine, not natural wine...
by Jonathan Loesberg
December 1st, 2019, 11:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 618
Views: 31349

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

62! I'm impressed. Gail and I drink a lot and entertain a fair amount, but I don't think we've ever gotten through that much in a month.
by Jonathan Loesberg
December 1st, 2019, 7:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines
Replies: 23
Views: 1545

Re: NewYorker: RachelMonroe on NaturalWines

Robert Dentice wrote:
November 19th, 2019, 11:37 am
It is actually a decent, balanced article. So many bad superficial and factually incorrect articles have been written about natural wine that I surprised by this.

I agree. Journalistic in its virtues--balanced and accounting for the various viewpoints--but they are virtues.
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 27th, 2019, 1:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 319
Views: 20774

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)

Given their insistence on repeating the (grammatically horrendous) brand name "Robert Parker Wine Advocate" a thousand times, I'm surmising Parker's brand value is still pretty strong. Why more grammatically horrendous than say the Ford Motor Company? And how much do you care about what Henry Ford ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 27th, 2019, 8:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Decanting recommendation needed – 2007 Domaine de Ferrand Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Replies: 6
Views: 301

Re: Decanting recommendation needed – 2007 Domaine de Ferrand Châteauneuf-du-Pape

While a lot of 07s are very forward, enough for many people to be a fault, others have been quite desultory. The last time I tasted Ferrand, it was the latter. I would open it a few hours in advance and taste it and depending on how you like the state it's in, either pour out a four oz. glass and le...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 26th, 2019, 11:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: When you say, "This wine is undrinkable..."
Replies: 50
Views: 1504

Re: When you say, "This wine is undrinkable..."

I get both Neal's reaction and the reaction to that reaction. On the one hand, the range of meanings likely when someone calls a wine undrinkable is really pretty narrow, going from I really don't like it much to, quite literally, I wouldn't drink it and, after the first taste, didn't. The only reas...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 25th, 2019, 6:03 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1998 Chateau Bourgneuf, Pomerol
Replies: 10
Views: 557

Re: TN: 1998 Chateau Bourgneuf, Pomerol

Back in the 90s, this wine sold fairly widely in NYC for not much money. It was quite good, though it never blew my socks off. But that was back when you could still buy Montrose and Pichon Lalande for the mid 20s on futures and the big names hadn't gone all spoofy. I haven't tasted Bourgneuf in yea...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 24th, 2019, 7:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNs from tonight: 2006 comtes, 2016 Beaucastel, 2001 Suduiraut
Replies: 6
Views: 602

Re: TNs from tonight: 2006 comtes, 2016 Beaucastel, 2001 Suduiraut

Coudoulet is from a plot adjacent to the beaucastel estate, right? Coudelet is right across a small paved road from the northernmost tip of the Beaucastel vineyards. But it really does not usually taste as good as a Beaucastel or age nearly as well. It is a great buy though, and does easily go to 1...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 21st, 2019, 1:56 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Full body, black fruit, and funky...name your poison
Replies: 32
Views: 1258

Re: Full body, black fruit, and funky...name your poison

Note I said “more modern class”. That would exclude the traditionalists, which from my perspective, have become just a few. If what you were saying is that you don't like Cambie-ized Gigondases (many of which have bright red fruit, in their fashion) I'd be with you. I took you to be saying that all...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 21st, 2019, 12:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Full body, black fruit, and funky...name your poison
Replies: 32
Views: 1258

Re: Full body, black fruit, and funky...name your poison

The more modern class of Gigondas, and those luxury cuvees, largely the spawn of Parker and Cambie largesse, are mostly dark fruited, IMHO. Red is dead. And I’m out. Too broad a brush: off the top of my head, both Gour de Chaulé and Clos du Juncuas, neither of them remotely Cambie, are dark fruited...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 21st, 2019, 7:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3286

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

The fact that a claim is very probable or not very probable is not a measure of whether it is true or not but a measure of how good our evidence is for knowing whether it is true. One can only make meaningful probability claims about things that could be objectively true. Claims about wine evaluatio...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 20th, 2019, 12:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3286

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

I think probability is a tangent here. Things that are probably objectively true, may more likely or not be objectively true, and also, less likely than not, but possibly, objectively false. In neither case would they be a subjective, evaluative judgment. The absence of grounds for certainty about s...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 20th, 2019, 9:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3286

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

That is the point. If objectivity is not 100%, then what is it? Over 70%? And does that change according to the reputation of the experts? It just doesn’t work. I don’t think you can call any wines good or bad simply because there will never be 100% agreement. It is not like 2+2, which is a demonst...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 20th, 2019, 8:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Beaujolais
Replies: 115
Views: 9027

Re: 2017 Beaujolais

I reloaded on 2017 Griffe after tasting last week. Now up to 7 bottles, which might be overkill. Then again, maybe not. Stunning. I haven't seen any offers on this yet. Was it just recently released? A couple months ago. Check W-S. Handfuls of bottles available around NY. After our tasting in NY, I...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 20th, 2019, 7:44 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3286

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

I'm much more interested in whether a wine (or a specific bottle of wine) can be "evil". But before we can discuss whether or not good, bad and evil are "objective" terms, we must first define them....And it seems difficult to define "good wine" as anything other than a wine you like or a wine you ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 20th, 2019, 7:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Young cdp
Replies: 15
Views: 897

Re: Young cdp

All the 17s will be young and forward, but fine if you like them that way. Beaucastel and Pegau from 15 (and maybe 16) may be showing some grumpiness, but I'm sure they'll be OK.
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 19th, 2019, 6:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1990 André Brunel Châteauneuf du Pape Les Cailloux
Replies: 12
Views: 692

Re: TN: 1990 André Brunel Châteauneuf du Pape Les Cailloux

This bottle carries the "Reflets" neck label, which IIRC means it was a late release. From a French cellar, it's showing beautifully, offering up complex aromas of earthy blackberries, ripe cherries, smoked meats, lavender and garrigue. On the palate, the wine is full-bodied, rich and enveloping, w...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3286

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

Besides, what good is it to me if a wine somehow "objectively" is a 95 point wine and I think subjectively it deserves 75 points. For example, how does one rate SQN or Truchot objectively? Say there is a wine from both that somehow are objectively rated 92.5. Many, many tasters will find that one d...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 18th, 2019, 1:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1990 André Brunel Châteauneuf du Pape Les Cailloux
Replies: 12
Views: 692

Re: TN: 1990 André Brunel Châteauneuf du Pape Les Cailloux

I don't know what Selections Reflets refers to, but it is on all their CdPs ( or at least used to be) as well as on the neck labels of other wines (Clos du Mont Olivet for example). It doesn't mean the wine is a late release since it is on their new releases. Or was: I stopped buying the Les Caillou...
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 14th, 2019, 6:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: '05 Pegau - 3L
Replies: 10
Views: 768

Re: '05 Pegau - 3L

Look for an 04 or an 06. 05 has a hard tannic edge that I am not optimistic it will lose. Remember the 95 and beware.
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 4th, 2019, 6:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 618
Views: 31349

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

Jeffrey Neal wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:13 pm
When this thread started I was at 1137 bottles with a goal of being at 1100 by the end of 2018. Sitting right at 1200 bottles now. I plan to retire soon, so my wine buying dollars will shrink and force me to reduce the number of bottles.
You'd think it would work that way, wouldn't you?
by Jonathan Loesberg
November 1st, 2019, 1:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Peter Luger's - no corkage and bad reviews
Replies: 83
Views: 5540

Re: Peter Luger's - no corkage and bad reviews

I used to like Carnegie, but that is a moot point. People talk about Sarge's. I haven't eaten there and would be happy to hear opinions. As to Katz, it seems to me pretty much what it was when I went as a kid in the late 50s and early 60s. There may be less expensive pastrami sandwiches, but if ther...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 29th, 2019, 7:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RIP: Marcel Juge
Replies: 19
Views: 1901

Re: RIP: Marcel Juge

For what it's worth, a search of French avis de déces shows that he died on August 14 (unless there is more than one Marcel Juge in Cornas).
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 21st, 2019, 3:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Upright or on its side: A Theory
Replies: 56
Views: 2403

Re: Upright or on its side: A Theory

Wine wasn't stored in bottles until the 17th century, and those bottles were short and squat. Wine bottles didn't come in the current shape until the early 19th century, which means storing choices analogous to today's only go back that far. It may be that storage lying down is much more efficient, ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 20th, 2019, 8:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How to correctly pronounce Piper Heidsieck in French?
Replies: 39
Views: 2044

Re: How to correctly pronounce Piper Heidsieck in French?

Piper Heidseick may be a German name, but it is a French Champagne house. However they pronounce it, that is therefore the correct pronunciation. I expect that is the general answer here: Peepehr Idezeek. If you ask for a pronunciation on the internet, that's what you get.
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 20th, 2019, 8:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are you going to stop buying European tariff affected winei
Replies: 81
Views: 3987

Re: Are you going to stop buying European tariff affected winei

p.s. US Customs does routinely request backup information/data to substantiate a product’s HTS code. If they were to ask for the data about a wine labeled 14.1% that was actually 13.5%, the tariffs would still apply regardless of labeling allowances. Do you really think they are likely to go this d...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 14th, 2019, 4:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 53
Views: 3649

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

Only the rogue popes and not the accepted one's who preceded them?
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 14th, 2019, 1:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 684
Views: 34836

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

Dulles in VA used to occasionally collect taxes, I think to discourage bringing in wine to a wine producing state (though I don't know that). As Chuck said, a case of wine would cost something on the order of $1.50. The only deterrent is it usually took 30 minutes to get to the customs agent who did...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 11th, 2019, 12:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 53
Views: 3649

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

Pronunciation: Laurence says Peg Oh, Paul says Peg Ow. This ain't rocket science: Paul grew up speaking Provencal, and 'Ow' is the Provencal pronunciation. Laurence grew up speaking French, and 'Oh' is the French pronunciation. Dan Kravitz Since the word is Provencale, it would follow that Paul's p...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 11th, 2019, 7:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 53
Views: 3649

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
October 11th, 2019, 6:33 am
Pegau has Brett?
Nah. It's just the mourvedre, as they used to say about Beaucastel in the 80s and 90s.
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 11th, 2019, 7:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?
Replies: 36
Views: 2508

Re: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?

I sold on Commerce Corner and it worked out quite nicely. Since Wine Searcher lists retail prices, somewhat below that will sell the wine and do nicely. And I wouldn't feel guilty. What you think is overpriced, someone else will consider a bargain. I have only sold wine a couple of times, though, so...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 11th, 2019, 6:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 53
Views: 3649

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

Bottles with slight brett coming out of the winery can become quite bretty with even minimal heat exposure, so I do expect there is variation due to shipping. But, really, Pegau is a wine in which some brett is, for most of its fans, a feature and not a bug. I drink Pegau regularly both bought direc...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 9th, 2019, 7:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 53
Views: 3649

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

I am less positive about either 95 or 05 than Gerhard seems to be. The 95 has, at its best, the charms of Lady Augusta in the Importance of Being Earnest. It was always a hard, tannic wine, and it went from that into elegantly austere age. The 05 is better but it still has a hard, tannic edge. I thi...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 8th, 2019, 7:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6516

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

I suppose one could say there is an aspect of conformity as a common thread in PC and Stalinism But with Stalinism you got lead poisoning and with PC social ostracism.Or maybe just an argument. In other countries reporters are getting killed for reporting the truth...In comparison PC strikes me as ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 5th, 2019, 6:47 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: I'm done*
Replies: 336
Views: 18287

Re: I'm done*

Jonathan - You bought 1000 bottles of 2018 Bdx?!? Wow. Balla. I'm missing the joke. What did I say that could be construed to mean that. Although I do have some bordeaux that might be welcome, mostly after the Southern Rhone, my wine is from the Northern Rhone, the Loire and Italy. That joke is, yo...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 4th, 2019, 1:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: I'm done*
Replies: 336
Views: 18287

Re: I'm done*

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
October 4th, 2019, 1:17 pm
Jonathan - You bought 1000 bottles of 2018 Bdx?!? Wow. Balla.
I'm missing the joke. What did I say that could be construed to mean that. Although I do have some bordeaux that might be welcome, mostly after the Southern Rhone, my wine is from the Northern Rhone, the Loire and Italy.
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 4th, 2019, 7:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: I'm done*
Replies: 336
Views: 18287

Re: I'm done*

I've been retired in DC for over 4 years now. I'm available for any party. I even have wine that's not CdP to conribute.
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 29th, 2019, 5:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?
Replies: 385
Views: 21918

Re: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

The 15 year rule, espoused by one person on another board (albeit a person with a good palate) was espoused as a somewhat hyperbolically titled rule of thumb. I don't believe it was ever intended to be a claim for every Northern Rhone ever made and it was certainly my never treated that way. This di...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 29th, 2019, 5:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6516

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

I take it your original claim that I misunderstood what happened is now, as they say, inoperative. To continue the theological quibble, Texas declared itself an independent republic in the beginning of March 1836 (a couple of days before the fall of the Alamo). They did not in fact win their indepen...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 28th, 2019, 11:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6516

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

I have never loved German wine , so a Nazi wine in my world , all German wines are Nazi Wines, just my 2 cents! I thought I had read some pretty stupid remarks on this board, but this one takes the cake. I don't care if you were stinking drunk when you wrote it - it's pure trash. In a Berserkers un...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 28th, 2019, 11:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6516

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

Sorry, but in what way am I confused. The area belonged to Mexico. A bunch of Americans moved there and then took it away creating a new country that was not part of the U.S. Any ulterior motives , as your post suggests, and I do not contest, are irrelevant to the question Marcus raised, which was ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 28th, 2019, 2:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1994 Château Rauzan-Ségla (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Margaux)
Replies: 16
Views: 997

Re: TN: 1994 Château Rauzan-Ségla (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Margaux)

Jay, I've brought 94 Ducru and 94 Leoville Barton to NY within the past 5 years or so and you have remarked upon them. I guess they were not memorable enough.
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 28th, 2019, 2:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6516

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

Sorry, but in what way am I confused. The area belonged to Mexico. A bunch of Americans moved there and then took it away creating a new country that was not part of the U.S. Any ulterior motives , as your post suggests, and I do not contest, are irrelevant to the question Marcus raised, which was w...

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