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by Jonathan Loesberg
October 21st, 2019, 3:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Upright or on its side: A Theory
Replies: 29
Views: 955

Re: Upright or on its side: A Theory

Wine wasn't stored in bottles until the 17th century, and those bottles were short and squat. Wine bottles didn't come in the current shape until the early 19th century, which means storing choices analogous to today's only go back that far. It may be that storage lying down is much more efficient, ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 20th, 2019, 8:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How to correctly pronounce Piper Heidsieck in French?
Replies: 37
Views: 1640

Re: How to correctly pronounce Piper Heidsieck in French?

Piper Heidseick may be a German name, but it is a French Champagne house. However they pronounce it, that is therefore the correct pronunciation. I expect that is the general answer here: Peepehr Idezeek. If you ask for a pronunciation on the internet, that's what you get.
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 20th, 2019, 8:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are you going to stop buying European tariff affected winei
Replies: 58
Views: 2373

Re: Are you going to stop buying European tariff affected winei

p.s. US Customs does routinely request backup information/data to substantiate a product’s HTS code. If they were to ask for the data about a wine labeled 14.1% that was actually 13.5%, the tariffs would still apply regardless of labeling allowances. Do you really think they are likely to go this d...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 14th, 2019, 4:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 46
Views: 2955

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

Only the rogue popes and not the accepted one's who preceded them?
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 14th, 2019, 1:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 410
Views: 20163

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

Dulles in VA used to occasionally collect taxes, I think to discourage bringing in wine to a wine producing state (though I don't know that). As Chuck said, a case of wine would cost something on the order of $1.50. The only deterrent is it usually took 30 minutes to get to the customs agent who did...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 11th, 2019, 12:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 46
Views: 2955

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

Pronunciation: Laurence says Peg Oh, Paul says Peg Ow. This ain't rocket science: Paul grew up speaking Provencal, and 'Ow' is the Provencal pronunciation. Laurence grew up speaking French, and 'Oh' is the French pronunciation. Dan Kravitz Since the word is Provencale, it would follow that Paul's p...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 11th, 2019, 7:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 46
Views: 2955

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
October 11th, 2019, 6:33 am
Pegau has Brett?
Nah. It's just the mourvedre, as they used to say about Beaucastel in the 80s and 90s.
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 11th, 2019, 7:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?
Replies: 35
Views: 1933

Re: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?

I sold on Commerce Corner and it worked out quite nicely. Since Wine Searcher lists retail prices, somewhat below that will sell the wine and do nicely. And I wouldn't feel guilty. What you think is overpriced, someone else will consider a bargain. I have only sold wine a couple of times, though, so...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 11th, 2019, 6:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 46
Views: 2955

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

Bottles with slight brett coming out of the winery can become quite bretty with even minimal heat exposure, so I do expect there is variation due to shipping. But, really, Pegau is a wine in which some brett is, for most of its fans, a feature and not a bug. I drink Pegau regularly both bought direc...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 9th, 2019, 7:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing
Replies: 46
Views: 2955

Re: 2017 Pegau - Not a TN, a comment about pricing

I am less positive about either 95 or 05 than Gerhard seems to be. The 95 has, at its best, the charms of Lady Augusta in the Importance of Being Earnest. It was always a hard, tannic wine, and it went from that into elegantly austere age. The 05 is better but it still has a hard, tannic edge. I thi...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 8th, 2019, 7:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6337

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

I suppose one could say there is an aspect of conformity as a common thread in PC and Stalinism But with Stalinism you got lead poisoning and with PC social ostracism.Or maybe just an argument. In other countries reporters are getting killed for reporting the truth...In comparison PC strikes me as ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 5th, 2019, 6:47 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: I'm done*
Replies: 336
Views: 18025

Re: I'm done*

Jonathan - You bought 1000 bottles of 2018 Bdx?!? Wow. Balla. I'm missing the joke. What did I say that could be construed to mean that. Although I do have some bordeaux that might be welcome, mostly after the Southern Rhone, my wine is from the Northern Rhone, the Loire and Italy. That joke is, yo...
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 4th, 2019, 1:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: I'm done*
Replies: 336
Views: 18025

Re: I'm done*

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
October 4th, 2019, 1:17 pm
Jonathan - You bought 1000 bottles of 2018 Bdx?!? Wow. Balla.
I'm missing the joke. What did I say that could be construed to mean that. Although I do have some bordeaux that might be welcome, mostly after the Southern Rhone, my wine is from the Northern Rhone, the Loire and Italy.
by Jonathan Loesberg
October 4th, 2019, 7:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: I'm done*
Replies: 336
Views: 18025

Re: I'm done*

I've been retired in DC for over 4 years now. I'm available for any party. I even have wine that's not CdP to conribute.
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 29th, 2019, 5:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?
Replies: 339
Views: 16082

Re: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

The 15 year rule, espoused by one person on another board (albeit a person with a good palate) was espoused as a somewhat hyperbolically titled rule of thumb. I don't believe it was ever intended to be a claim for every Northern Rhone ever made and it was certainly my never treated that way. This di...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 29th, 2019, 5:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6337

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

I take it your original claim that I misunderstood what happened is now, as they say, inoperative. To continue the theological quibble, Texas declared itself an independent republic in the beginning of March 1836 (a couple of days before the fall of the Alamo). They did not in fact win their indepen...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 28th, 2019, 11:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6337

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

I have never loved German wine , so a Nazi wine in my world , all German wines are Nazi Wines, just my 2 cents! I thought I had read some pretty stupid remarks on this board, but this one takes the cake. I don't care if you were stinking drunk when you wrote it - it's pure trash. In a Berserkers un...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 28th, 2019, 11:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6337

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

Sorry, but in what way am I confused. The area belonged to Mexico. A bunch of Americans moved there and then took it away creating a new country that was not part of the U.S. Any ulterior motives , as your post suggests, and I do not contest, are irrelevant to the question Marcus raised, which was ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 28th, 2019, 2:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1994 Château Rauzan-Ségla (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Margaux)
Replies: 16
Views: 956

Re: TN: 1994 Château Rauzan-Ségla (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Margaux)

Jay, I've brought 94 Ducru and 94 Leoville Barton to NY within the past 5 years or so and you have remarked upon them. I guess they were not memorable enough.
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 28th, 2019, 2:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6337

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

Sorry, but in what way am I confused. The area belonged to Mexico. A bunch of Americans moved there and then took it away creating a new country that was not part of the U.S. Any ulterior motives , as your post suggests, and I do not contest, are irrelevant to the question Marcus raised, which was w...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 27th, 2019, 11:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6337

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

...And while it also denied states the right to enter into treaties and to make war independently Guess Texas didn't get the memo when they took their land from Mexico. When Texas did that, it wasn't part of the United States, but a separate republic (assuming one can describe a slaveholding state ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 25th, 2019, 11:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??
Replies: 149
Views: 6337

Re: Would You Drink a Nazi Wine??

to Anton D, you wrote "I don't mind you defending Lee, I wish he had won." Can you please clarify? Do you wish that the southern border of the United States of America was the Mason-Dixon line and that the United States was bordered by a country called the Confederate States of America, which would...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 25th, 2019, 11:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Grape Variety and Aging
Replies: 27
Views: 947

Re: Grape Variety and Aging

John,

If you read my original post, you will find that I said that the one accepted usage of varietal as a noun was to refer to a wine made of one vape variety. Both of your quotations refer to this usage. Neither of them justified referring to a grape variety as a varietal.
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 25th, 2019, 1:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Grape Variety and Aging
Replies: 27
Views: 947

Re: Grape Variety and Aging

With regard to varietal and variety, variety is the noun form. Varietal is an adjective. The only accepted use of varietal as a noun is to refer to a wine made of a single variety, probably as an accepted shorthand for a varietal wine. And even this is usually in reference to an American wine (one ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 25th, 2019, 7:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Grape Variety and Aging
Replies: 27
Views: 947

Re: Grape Variety and Aging

With regard to varietal and variety, variety is the noun form. Varietal is an adjective. The only accepted use of varietal as a noun is to refer to a wine made of a single variety, probably as an accepted shorthand for a varietal wine. And even this is usually in reference to an American wine (one r...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 14th, 2019, 11:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 55
Views: 3279

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

I must have the wrong friends. Short of asking a vigneron, I don't know people with cellars.
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 12th, 2019, 11:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 55
Views: 3279

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

By the way, I have a particular reason to be happy about this decision at Chateau des Tours. I don't buy their wines in the US because the mark-up makes it not worth it to me. I buy it regularly at the domaine when I am here because, although the Vacqueyras is more expensive than most, given the qu...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 12th, 2019, 9:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 55
Views: 3279

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

By the way, I have a particular reason to be happy about this decision at Chateau des Tours. I don't buy their wines in the US because the mark-up makes it not worth it to me. I buy it regularly at the domaine when I am here because, although the Vacqueyras is more expensive than most, given the qua...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 12th, 2019, 5:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Tasting in Burgundy/Rhone
Replies: 113
Views: 3402

Re: Tasting in Burgundy/Rhone

Although I do most of my visiting in the Rhone, I would second what Howard said above. It's pretty easy to go to a domaine for a tasting. If you want to talk to the winemaker, it's better to email in advance and tell them how you know about them, why you appreciate their wines and that you'd like to...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 12th, 2019, 12:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 55
Views: 3279

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

I guess I am one of the few who find this insulting as a consumer. The idea of telling me that I am not smart enough to know how to consume a bottle of wine that you sold me, that the f***ing wine has to be protected from potential customers is, to me, ridiculous! Maybe the experience i want from t...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 11th, 2019, 12:24 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.
Replies: 55
Views: 3279

Re: Postponed releases - RAYAS, OGIER, MUGNIER etc.

When a winemaker sells you a wine when s/he thinks it is ready to drink, s/he is not dictating to you but selling to you what s/he thinks is the wine s/he wants to sell. The people who make the stuff have the right to make such determinations.
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 11th, 2019, 11:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Tasting in Burgundy/Rhone
Replies: 113
Views: 3402

Re: Tasting in Burgundy/Rhone

The Vatican does have the Sistine chapel. There are too many people, but there's no substitute for seeing it. I would, however happily tell people not to bother with the crowds around the Mona Lisa when the Veronese Wedding at Cana is just on the other wall and no one is getting on the way. I have n...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 6th, 2019, 10:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?
Replies: 339
Views: 16082

Re: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

. . . . Plus, this was a freakishly hot summer. Wines left before the heat wave though That's good news! You need to look at the temps before what they considered the heat wave. Heat wave temperatures were routinely above 100F, and sometimes a lot above that. A normal day in June in Cote Rotie coul...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 3rd, 2019, 12:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Friday poll: Bordeaux Rouge vs. Burgundy Rouge
Replies: 52
Views: 1822

Re: Friday poll: Bordeaux Rouge vs. Burgundy Rouge

I was aware of controversy over Rovani in Burgundy. And, of course, the rise of Allen Meadows was visible on the boards. I didn't know about Accad. But the question is why did Rovani and Accad not have the influence Parker did and Rolland does (or why only for a short period) and why was Meadows wel...
by Jonathan Loesberg
September 2nd, 2019, 7:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Friday poll: Bordeaux Rouge vs. Burgundy Rouge
Replies: 52
Views: 1822

Re: Friday poll: Bordeaux Rouge vs. Burgundy Rouge

Forgive a question from a Burgundy ignoramus. One does not hear talk of Parkerization and high!y influential oenologists miitating for that style of wine there. First, is that the case? Second, if it is, is it because the vignerons kicked Parker out early on, the audience for Burgundy just always di...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 31st, 2019, 1:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 562
Views: 28775

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

For all of you who are buying more than you are drinking because you only drank one or two bottles last month, maybe you need to rethink why you are into wine. Unless this rarity of opening a bottle is caused by health (get better Jay!) or summer heat, if you only drink a couple of bottles a month, ...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 29th, 2019, 11:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

There's been no change in ownership since the 80s and the cellar master has been around since the mid aughts. It is changes in one of these things (particularly a change in ownership, including a generational change) that usually leads to a change in style. That doesn't mean you are wrong, but it ma...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 29th, 2019, 1:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

Oak mostly on the whites. But, like the Cambia wines they are , very ripe with tannins polished until they shine. It's Cambie, and he's not connected to Clos du Caillou. I apologize for the typo. According to both the Danish website and Cambie's own website, he does consult at Clos du Caillou. http...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 28th, 2019, 4:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

Oak mostly on the whites. But, like the Cambia wines they are, very ripe with tannins polished until they shine.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 28th, 2019, 4:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How do I buy from people's cellars?
Replies: 31
Views: 2254

Re: How do I buy from people's cellars?

Nathan believes that all government regulation is oppression. To raise your consciousness to a greater awareness of that fact, he interprets all regulations as if they were written with the intent to oppress you.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 28th, 2019, 4:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

Dinesh Goyal wrote:
August 28th, 2019, 2:36 am
BTW Le Clos De Caillou hasn’t been mentioned. I don’t know them but they seem to have good reviews on CT. What’s their style like?
Well made wines, but not in the style you are looking for.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 28th, 2019, 12:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

Give Cayron another try. The last two vintages have been some of my favorite wines. The most herbes de Provence/garrigue I've ever encountered. Cayron '15 last week was pretty liqueured and super-ripe in style, with nothing that could be described as garrigue. I drank cases of the 1998 as a student...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 28th, 2019, 12:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

What about Gigondas? While I did get some Pape--my two favorite producers might be Domaine du Cayron Gigondas and Domaine Saint-Damien Gigondas. Yes to Saint Damien. I find Cayron too variable, though I was a fan in the 90s. After that, the ones I drink regularly are Gour de Chaule, Raspail d'Ay, D...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 27th, 2019, 12:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

JLL is worth attending to. I will try them when I am next at the Caveau, in the next week or so.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 27th, 2019, 12:37 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

What about Gigondas? While I did get some Pape--my two favorite producers might be Domaine du Cayron Gigondas and Domaine Saint-Damien Gigondas. Yes to Saint Damien. I find Cayron too variable, though I was a fan in the 90s. After that, the ones I drink regularly are Gour de Chaule, Raspail d'Ay, D...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 27th, 2019, 11:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

I like the 98 a lot better. The 00 is quite nice and avoids the fatness of that year, but it's a little on the austere side. His 01, however, is great.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 27th, 2019, 10:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

John and Jonathan have more expertise here but the only Châteauneuf-du-Pape I buy are the aforementioned Charvin and Texier with an occasional splurge on Rayas if I find it at a good price. As they both say, no Châteauneuf-du-Pape is going to give you acidity and minerality; however, I find Erix Te...
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 27th, 2019, 8:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers
Replies: 46
Views: 1995

Re: Châteauneuf-du-Pape producers

I find Clos des Papes, since its handover from father to son, to have gone from the iron hand in the velvet glove to rocket fuel in a velvet glove. But I stopped buying after 04 sp tje style may have changed again. Unless it has changed back, it really is not what the OP was asking for.
by Jonathan Loesberg
August 27th, 2019, 4:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Why Is Pronunciation Such An Issue??
Replies: 71
Views: 2329

Re: Why Is Pronunciation Such An Issue??

According to the Cos d'Estournel entry on wiki, the word cos is indeed Gascon. I could never have deduced that fact, but if that is what Dan is contesting, Otto is right. D'Estournel is the family name of the founder. I can't find with the cursory googling I did where the family came from, but famil...

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