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Opened these while watching. 2019 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhäuser Abtsberg Riesling Kabinett - Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer (18/09/2020) Enjoyed during the 2020 VDP auction on YouTube. This is less exhuberant than the Bruderberg, mint, fresh chopped herbs, energetic and seems more settled. It’s towards...

Yeah it was MUCH quicker than normal, fewer lots than before but still two hours shorter.

I havent added up my bids but I think largely consistent with prior years.

I love Lieser Doctor. All of them, but especially the Kabi.

The lease is very expensive hence not much on normal channels.

Seth Rosenberg wrote: ↑
September 18th, 2020, 7:42 am
what did the Clemens Busch Kabinett go for? I missed it!

20!!

Replicating (sort of) the experience of being in Trier we opened all these watching on the sofa.

My wife is somewhat amazed at how much time and money o have thrown at this most peculiar event in the last 11 years. Flying from Abu Dhabi for 8 of them.

I think Prum prices are lower than expected. They were very low last year though. The Auslese in particular is meant to be one of the wines of the auction.

Inhale all my old catalogues back to the 2010 vintage here. Schaefer Spat went for 30 then.

5000. It went for 25k a couple of years back for a German wine board. It hammered at 5000ish but they paid 25,000 Anyway. The manager of the charity was in tears. A woman’s refuge IIRC.

Given that there's only a half-Fuder of Scharzhofberger Kabinett Auction this year (as opposed to a full fuder the years before, the price does not seem too crazy. But that the price of the Kabinett is higher than the Spätlese seems weird, a sign that certain "icon wines" fetch really high prices. ...

Rob_S wrote: ↑
September 18th, 2020, 5:28 am
Russel Faulkner getting the shout-out by the commentator.

Rob_S wrote: ↑
September 18th, 2020, 5:20 am
Wow, a 6.0L of German wine must be three feet tall!

Burgundy shape. Unfortunately.

Brian S t o t t e r wrote: ↑
September 18th, 2020, 4:45 am
Loosen's 2012 double mag

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Glad I got that one.

If you walk the vineyards it’s hard to know where one stops and the other begins (including Bruderberg). Since you can’t buy everything every year I tend to focus on Abtsberg. But Herrenberg used to get the Eiswine more often - rare these days (there’s a dip at the top where cold air comes over). Fo...

Sounds wonderful. I wish you well!

Thanks for the notes, have these all in the cellar but only opened, 4, 8, 11, 12, 14 and 20 so far.

Well, whilst not cancelled it has been severely restricted as you must know David. It’s my first year not attending since 2010. I’ll miss it dearly but it’s not the same thing as normal.

No. I have the regular ones in the cellar though in the queue.

I’d agree generally. But they aren’t a shade on the 97s!

I would like to amend my original post and add the great Port houses to the list. Fonseca, Taylor, Graham etc. That is unless we are just dealing with table wines. What is your definition of a "great wine house"? As I asked much earlier, what is the difference between Prum and von Schubert as far a...

First GGs got delivered here today!

I won’t tell you the price for private clients then!

Not commercialised anyway. Yet.

A.Gillette wrote: ↑
September 7th, 2020, 5:43 am

Russell Faulkner wrote: ↑
September 7th, 2020, 5:38 am
Ah thanks! I should subscribe really.
PS - what did you think? I thought the ‘18 was a huge out-performer and really wonderful.
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Didn’t open it yet. Only have two so decided against it. Yet.

Ah thanks! I should subscribe really.

Not that one!

This one:

Anyone know the story with the RR?

Only notable change for us is that Julian Haart has hit number three. Concentration seems to increase because much of the new and interesting stuff we buy the bottle and drink the same day as purchase. Top five producers now 35% of the cellar. (Prum, Schaefer, J Haart, Grunhaus, Keller). I’ve made b...

2019 Falkenstein Gisela is singing tonight. But Schaefer GH is showing better IMHO, though totally different.

Love Grunhaus. As consistent as Prum though? Up to you. Willi Schaefer is another where I’ve enjoyed excellent bottles back to 1970, but Manfred had already been making (or at least involved) great wines at Prum for 7 years then (IIRC), Not to say earlier ones were not also wonderful. My wife and I ...

I love Falkenstein and bought a shed load of 2019s (and before). But they don’t have the track record of Prum, who does consistently? Egon but you can’t call that reasonably priced.

Top producer in our cellar by half.

Nope! To be honest we were only there four days and we didn’t go very wine centric. (Family trip).

Bit the consistency of quality struck me

Nope. Didn’t come across them. One for next time!

We were just in Baden and enjoyed most of the wines we tried.

I’m long overdue trying recent Boulard wines and we are currently enjoying the early 2000s wines. We had some lovely visits to Francis back then.

Thanks for the tip, a shop in town here has it so I will try some.

2017 Guiberteau Chapaudaises was wonderful tonight. Just the right balance with some juicy fruit but a darker finish of tobacco and fresh undergrowth.

Depends what ‘drink them all’ means. I have a lot of 2002 DP. It’s kind of earmarked for my kids weddings.

I doubt I’ll sell any though.

I didn’t look properly at the listing this year but Muller auction Spatlesen are quite rare.

It absolutely used to make sense (In relative pricing terms) to buy the auction Kabi. But that ended around 2014/5.

Dry ≠ Zero sugar.

The basic approach is wrong.

Charlie Carnes wrote: ↑
July 29th, 2020, 6:45 am

Russell Faulkner wrote: ↑
July 29th, 2020, 6:31 am
I wouldn’t bother with W-K.
Because you don't think the trocken is dry enough?

Yep. They are usually around 2-4g/l as far as I recall. Wonderful balanced wines.

As I’ve said before the wines Adam seeks don’t exist.

I wouldn’t bother with W-K or Falkenstein.

Haven't seen any offers in Europe yet.

No one is making wines in the style Adam seeks. He should give up.

I’m sure they will be wonderful!

There were magnums 2018 too. Not sure about prior years.

I had the 2012 Pergentsknopp, Gottesfuss and Kanzler Alte Reben at Rieslingfeier. Definitely a bigger style of Riesling than other Saar producers, e.g., Lauer. But, still balanced. I really liked the Pergentsknopp, and have the ‘14, ‘15 and ‘16 vintages cellaring, but I bought them in Germany, not ...

I didn’t find excessive ripeness, I think the Mosel Riesling is a bit riper than the last two years perhaps but I haven’t done a side by side comparison, I think I prefer this years though.

I haven’t opened any of the ‘white labels’ from 2019 yet but I’d be a buyer even at $90. It’s a very hard to find wine.

I’ve long been one of the voices advocating higher prices for ‘proper’ Kabinett. After all it’s a lot more effort than making Auslese.

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