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I´ve never cared much about Loire reds - too green for me. Even Clos Rougeard tasted twice didn´t move me at all, much better wine in Bordeaux right bank - at lower prices. Well that was helpful to the OP. ;) So when you say right bank, do you mean St Em, Pomerol or both? Those with a Loire palate,...

Rougeard is like d’Yquem, a class unto itself. Raffault has to be a Second Growth. IMHO, it has been producing more consistent wines, and some legendary ones like 1989 and 1990, more than Joguet has. Baudry is the Second Growth stalwart, such a range, such quality and consistent across the spectrum....

I need more VCC. A better and more consistent Chateau, IMHO.

Brilliant. My fave 86 behind Mouton. The GL has more funkalicious personality, like bring back Tone Loc.

I have a friend that has a deep cellar of very fine, mature Bordeaux. Has a pretty traditional palate. And yet, likes Bordeaux paired with vanilla ice cream. I’ll never get it in a million years, but it’s his palate like mine. Along those lines, I really don’t understand pairing Sauternes with sweet...

Thanks, Al. I need to grab some 2016. It’s jumped up about $20 per bottle but it’s pretty killer vineyards.

Dude. Have you ever had the peanut butter milkshake from PDQ? It’s almost as revelatory as Klondike bars.

Markus S wrote: ↑
January 19th, 2020, 12:41 pm

john stimson wrote: ↑
January 19th, 2020, 11:23 am
It seems to me pretty analogous to the same question about sex, or at least what I remember about sex.
Finally, someone actually gets the question.

Isn’t just getting it an epiphany!?!

Epiphanies are wonderful, but it seems to me, they are things that catch you by surprise rather than you chasing this Holy Grail. I think there are more let-downs in that process. I honestly have more pleasure from day-to-day solid wines that hit my sweet spot, pair well with dinner, and are afforda...

Definitely try the Geynale!

Not a fan of the 30 or 60 but the Geynale is pretty traditional to me, well, perhaps not so much the 2015 but that’s more the vintage. Different vineyards and I think 100% whole cluster in the Geynale. Geynale is very old vines he inherited from his uncle, Michel. The 30 and 60 definitely taste like...

Despite having sushi and beers out, coming home to polish off the remainder of a 1998 La Conseillante, I ended up popping the 1998 Sociando Mallett for a final round. A truly beguiling nose of classic Bordeaux perfume with some musk, dark cassis. The palate is much tighter, showing a leaner profile ...

I wonder how many millions Todder has earned off us hacks. I mean, he’s gotta be rolling in serious cash. Such a Baller. C’mon the dude gargles with Chave from this site We have a dinner coming up real soon. I hope he declares it business entertainment and picks up the whole tab like a real Playa. ...

Pat- I only have 2 recent data points, Magdelaine and Lafleur. The Magdelaine was tasted at a Magdelaine dinner with a number of vintages from 1970 to 2011, and the Lafleur was tasted alongside the 88 and the 08. Both were shockingly young, primary and relatively massive (but not heavy) compared to...

First-ever tasting note posted here, so please be gentle. [thankyou.gif] 2000 Ducru-Beaucaillou, St. Julien I was sworn into the Washington State Bar Association yesterday, so my wife and I pulled this out to celebrate. Decanted for a little over two hours and enjoyed for another two, this wine was...

Those are all Paul’s. Johnny is blowing him off. The last 9 are demanding that he clear them out.

I wonder how many millions Todder has earned off us hacks. I mean, he’s gotta be rolling in serious cash. Such a Baller.

Brian S t o t t e r wrote: ↑
January 18th, 2020, 9:37 am

Neal.Mollen wrote: ↑
January 18th, 2020, 8:52 am
Not sure I own it yet
Just saw K&L sold out of 2015 Sociando-Mallet, do you own it now?

I love when Neal breaks down and buys Sociando. He will eventually flip it to me for free.

I’m more curious as to when La Conseillante moved to Saint Emilion. 😁 Too easy. I knew this comment was inevitable, but was surprised to see Jeff post it. neener LOL. Jeffois occasionally has a funny-bone. I think you boneheads knew what I meant since I have Pomerol in the title. Prove me wrong, sh...

Killer price on those first growths, I might have bitten

2010 Montrose?

I may be dead before it’s ready. Neal will for sure.

Happy anniversary from here too. And I like this: I had my usual Seared Magret de Canard as a main course A man of good taste! Ha, you missed this best part! I had my usual Seared Magret de Canard as a main course, paired with a 2000 Château Cheval Blanc A man of great taste. One of my favorite win...

I would not judge Clape on the 2014 vintage alone, but yes, like many of these renown Northern Rhones, they have all become pricey. I am no longer buying Allemand or Jamet either. I bought their 2013s but would not pay the fare for the 2014s, and then 2015 went bonkers. As a counter-point, two board...

Neal.Mollen wrote: ↑
January 17th, 2020, 4:53 pm
half a dozen half bottles of the 2016 Fontalloro offered by envoyer today. Can't have enough halves.

I bought in 750, then WineBid had 375s that I drooled over but for $30 sans vig, ugh. How much?

Neal.Mollen wrote: ↑
January 17th, 2020, 4:55 pm
1988 Domaine de Chevalier. Man what a nose. This wine smells so good if you never drank any having the bottle would be worthwhile. Just intoxicating. Not too shabby on the palate either. Just a delightful bottle

Awesome!

Can you shoot me a link? Can’t find it. This would be cool. And thanks!

This is such an old school beauty. Why can’t St. Emilion do this anymore? Medium weight on the palate and modest ABV. But I digress . . . . Oyster shells, truffles and blackberries on the nose with a subtle waft of toast. Took an hour to really start expressing the aromatic complexity that this esta...

For me: Drank - 158 bottles (yikes!) Donated - 11 bottles Gifted - 21 bottles Sold - 2 bottles Here, I'll make you feel better: Drank - 417 Sold - 49 Spoiled - 20 Donated - 5 From my cellar only. Other bottles were consumed on vacation at restaurants or at wine dinners. Playa!! I Don’t know exactly...

2001 Chateau Lynch Bages - Starting to hit its drinking window, classic Pauilliac, delicious 2006 Chateau Leoville Poyferre - Still quite young, a bit glossy, decent dinner party Bordeaux 2008 Levet La Chavaroche - Marc and I loved it, everyone else, meh - classic gamey, funky Levet 1995 Chateau de...

Robert - Giscours 2004 was one of the most enjoyable wines I had last year, plump rather than plush and worth seeking out. My recent note on the 2004 Giscours: 2004 Chateau Giscours Perfumed, flowers, wet earth and rich dark fruit. Probably needs a couple more years to flesh out more but quite enjo...

Alfert is the man. I just randomly got '16 Lanessan in OWC (it's not modern yet, okay) for a close friend's anniversary year. Neither us of really buy Bordeaux, either. Gonna be fun! Oh cool, let me know your thoughts. I’d give it a second look. I passed on 2003, Really tough vintage except for top...

Last Giscours I had, 2009, showed some gloss and modern fruit but was quite nice, I stuck several away for the 15-year thing.

Hmmm. A Chateau that I have not really focused on, but I do have some 2005. Will need to remedy that given both of your comments, looking for 06 and 01.....

Love the detail in these notes, thanks Julian! Have you tried Bolaire? You will probably find it post-modern as well, but the significant PV cut makes it an interesting, if not quirky, Bordeaux. I think the PV is pretty old vine as well. Same owner for both estates. Belle-Vue just started making a 1...

Excellent, thanks for sharing. Will check it out this weekend.

More importantly, what did you drink last night?!?

Thanks Ryan, really helpful. I bought a few splits but am thinking of getting more. Leve’s note describes a pretty classic wine, so that’s good too.

I know you are kidding, Sheez I got thicker skin than Tannat! It’s funny how the cepage itself can skew how much modernity that I can palate in a Bordeaux. CF and PV help.

Love Edmunds regardless, but the Chambers emailer got me with “feral” and “Loire” references!

Some Edmunds St. John 2014 El Dorado County Barsotti Ranch Syrah

but there again you like Belle-Vue so what do I know? Well, by the same owner, I really prefer Bolaire. It’s a quirky but interesting - and quite cheap - wine with a very healthy cut of old vine petit Verdot, like 50%. Belle Vue has a nice cut of PV as well, and I think is now releasing a 100% PV b...

Where is Charmail these days on the stylistic spectrum?

YLee wrote: ↑
January 14th, 2020, 8:45 am

Peter Chiu wrote: ↑
January 14th, 2020, 8:42 am
Meyney 1999 is available at CD $96.75 (1424-9691) at SAQ .............
Just my 2 cents but I wouldnt spend that much on '99 meyney

Not chance. Even the greatest Bordeaux QPR ever - the 1986 Meyney - pops up occasionally on WineBid for $50-$60. That and La Lagune for a few quid more.

Lanessan 15 or 16? Bear in mind these are the vintages where Bouard became involved. I have notes posted on this site, I prefer 2014 much more.

The 2016 Beychevelle is priced about the same as the readily available, and delicious, 1989 Bechevelle. Around $125 +/-.

No-brainer right there.

D@vid Bu3ker wrote: ↑
January 14th, 2020, 7:56 am
Beychevelle is still mostly traditional, but about $80 a bottle, so...

And more. At that price, I prefer a few other producers.

You know it, so now everyone sing along, drink along . . . . This is how we do it It's Monday night and I feel alright The party's here on the Left Bank side So I reach for my Lanessan and I pop it it up Designated driver take the keys to my Rover Hit the shore 'cause I'm faded Honeys in the street ...

Lanessan, Cantermerle, Sociando - I don't really need anything else from Bordeaux. For regular drinking, this is where I am at as well. I bet these 3 wines make up 80% of my Crus and maybe 40% of my overall Bordeaux holdings. These are solid base hitters in most games, and occasionally hit doubles ...

Some people drink wine while others drink labels. Chapeau! This would be like that pair of Lucky’s while others are wearing Seven for all Mankind. Or, to poke fun at Fu as we all know he will never ever in a gazillion years open a thread with the word Lanessan in it, like wearing those Champion swe...

An inexpensive Cru. Twenty years old. Perfectly stored. Firing on all four cylinders. This ain’t an eight cylinder beast, never meant to be more than it is. But it delivers With aplomb. Cigar box, leather, dried red fruits and camp fire on the nose. Impeccable balance on a mid-weight frame. Sous boi...

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