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by john stimson
January 19th, 2020, 9:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Lots of mature Rioja (1942-1996) in NYC
Replies: 20
Views: 1099

Re: Lots of mature Rioja (1942-1996) in NYC

I think you can pick and choose your wines. There are a number that don't seem to me to be overoaked--CVNE, Riojanas, Muga, LDH are among the ones that I think are oK.
by john stimson
January 19th, 2020, 11:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Does There Come A Time When The Search For Epiphany Experiences Ceases?
Replies: 61
Views: 2954

Re: Does There Come A Time When The Search For Epiphany Experiences Ceases?

It seems to me pretty analogous to the same question about sex, or at least what I remember about sex.
by john stimson
January 18th, 2020, 5:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ampeau MP and Dauvissat-Camus Preuses
Replies: 15
Views: 593

Re: Ampeau MP and Dauvissat-Camus Preuses

Chris--realize that while I'm giving my honest opinion from my experience, William has likely 100 times or so what I have, so might be worth listening to.
by john stimson
January 18th, 2020, 2:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Lots of mature Rioja (1942-1996) in NYC
Replies: 20
Views: 1099

Re: Lots of mature Rioja (1942-1996) in NYC

Most any tasting of older Riojas from good estates has the potential to be revelatory. I am repeatedly amazed at how well these wines age and what they turn into, given enough time. I'm also impressed that there are a few estates that have gone way, way over the top oak-wise (la rioja Alta for exam...
by john stimson
January 18th, 2020, 9:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ampeau MP and Dauvissat-Camus Preuses
Replies: 15
Views: 593

Re: Ampeau MP and Dauvissat-Camus Preuses

No real difference between the Dauvissat and the Dauvissat-Camus. (there are multiple old threads on this). I'm all out of my Ampeau M-P, but it's a very nice wine, if not corked (for me Ampeau from that period has more than it's share of flawed bottles). I would serve the wines as any other good wh...
by john stimson
January 17th, 2020, 8:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Lots of mature Rioja (1942-1996) in NYC
Replies: 20
Views: 1099

Re: Lots of mature Rioja (1942-1996) in NYC

Most any tasting of older Riojas from good estates has the potential to be revelatory. I am repeatedly amazed at how well these wines age and what they turn into, given enough time. I'm also impressed that there are a few estates that have gone way, way over the top oak-wise (la rioja Alta for examp...
by john stimson
January 13th, 2020, 6:41 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Charles Noëllat
Replies: 4
Views: 533

Re: Charles Noëllat

Has anyone tried any yet? I have a couple of bottles that I haven't launched into yet.
by john stimson
January 9th, 2020, 3:09 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Questions you ask on a winery tour/tasting visit?
Replies: 26
Views: 974

Re: Questions you ask on a winery tour/tasting visit?

[dance-clap.gif] "OTOH, rather than ask for scripted questions, you can just have a real conversation" bingo! [dance-clap.gif] Where do you like to go out to eat? (a local's opinion means so much more than someone that's been there for a few days on holiday that got board recommendations to begin w...
by john stimson
January 9th, 2020, 1:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Joseph Voillot?
Replies: 13
Views: 1301

Re: Joseph Voillot?

Yes. Don't tell anyone, but a good source now that prices for d'Angerville and Lafarge have gotten a little silly. (not quite in the same league as those two, but still very good wines.)
by john stimson
January 7th, 2020, 9:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Bourbon Impacted Your Wine Spending?
Replies: 99
Views: 2829

Re: Has Bourbon Impacted Your Wine Spending?

I've always found it interesting that the same WBers who are obsessive about wine not having any noticeable oak and alcohol then turn around and love mega-hops hipster IPAs, plus scotch and bourbon. Who are these people? This is not a correlation I have observed. Though I do love Islay Scotch. Igno...
by john stimson
January 5th, 2020, 11:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the dumb phase and aging
Replies: 64
Views: 3004

Re: Understanding the dumb phase and aging

Frankly, these days, aside from checking cellar tracker, one of the best strategies if you are planning ahead is just to post a note on the boards--"Hey--I'm thinking of opening a 99 Giacosa X on Saturday--does anyone have any recent experience--what do you think?" the collective experience on this ...
by john stimson
January 4th, 2020, 6:20 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the dumb phase and aging
Replies: 64
Views: 3004

Re: Understanding the dumb phase and aging

I think it’s essentially a trash-can term. It could mean that the wine is very reductive, that the individual bottle was bad, or that the wine was never any good to begin with. Totally disagree. I second Maureen. There's a well-established dumb phase for a lot of wines. Hell--there's a dumb phase f...
by john stimson
December 27th, 2019, 6:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Why Should Newly Releasd Wines Cost More Than 18 Year Old Whisky?
Replies: 43
Views: 1837

Re: Why Should Newly Releasd Wines Cost More Than 18 Year Old Whisky?

The biggest difference is that these days I have a hell of a time downing a whole bottle of single malt or bourbon/rye, whereas a bottle of really fine wine over an evening isn't as much of a challenge. (OK--this is a joke. But why do I have a mental hurdle about buying a $150 bottle of scotch or bo...
by john stimson
December 26th, 2019, 1:37 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 red burgundy premier cru..... sucks
Replies: 66
Views: 5093

Re: 2008 red burgundy premier cru..... sucks

M. Meer wrote:
December 26th, 2019, 1:31 pm
Joshua Kates wrote:
December 26th, 2019, 4:30 am

Good to know on the VR, as I have some and a variety of Cortons.
I have Dubreuil-Fontaine Corton Clos du Roi in the queue. I'll post a note when it gets opened.
It will be interesting to hear your report. I wouldn't personally pick a Corton for an early look at a late maturing vintage.
by john stimson
December 24th, 2019, 2:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?
Replies: 39
Views: 2334

Re: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?

So for the 1989 Brovia Rocche (a bottle I've owned since release imported by Neal with a cork only stained at the end) I decanted from a basket at 2:30, covered the top of the decanter and returned to the cellar. I re-canted back into the cleaned bottle at 4:30, re-corked and it is waiting in the c...
by john stimson
December 24th, 2019, 8:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?
Replies: 39
Views: 2334

Re: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?

Matt--this happens repeatedly for me with older Rioja as well.
by john stimson
December 22nd, 2019, 6:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?
Replies: 39
Views: 2334

Re: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?

Yes, Sarah, I know we've hijacked your thread, but the information on how experienced folks handle their wines I think is useful for all. My own take for older wines, particularly Barolo, but also rioja, Burgundy, Bordeaux, northern rhone, and Washington reds is that folks don't give them enough air...
by john stimson
December 22nd, 2019, 10:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 red burgundy premier cru..... sucks
Replies: 66
Views: 5093

Re: 2008 red burgundy premier cru..... sucks

Thanks, Herwig. There will likely be a lot of disagreement about this, but I would likely have opened and probably double decanted 2-3 hours ahead for red burg of this age for my own purposes. Who knows if the wines would have shown differently, but your information is helpful to me in assessing you...
by john stimson
December 21st, 2019, 9:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?
Replies: 39
Views: 2334

Re: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?

Actually, Sarah, when you say "opened and perhaps decanted" can you clarify what you actually do? (to me there's quite a bit of difference between slow oxing and decanting in terms of elapsed time, and then I'm always interested in what people are doing when they decant a few hours ahead--are they d...
by john stimson
December 21st, 2019, 11:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2017 Kevin White Winery La Fraternité
Replies: 8
Views: 422

Re: TN: 2017 Kevin White Winery La Fraternité

Kevin is doing a great job. I wonder how much longer he'll keep his day job.
by john stimson
December 21st, 2019, 11:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 red burgundy premier cru..... sucks
Replies: 66
Views: 5093

Re: 2008 red burgundy premier cru..... sucks

This report is a little concerning, as I bought a fair amount of 2008 (prices were good and I liked many of the wines)--most of which is still sitting. However my experience with what wines I've had has been almost universally positive (Lambrays, Drouhin Amoureuses, various Hudelot-Noellat, Chevillo...
by john stimson
December 21st, 2019, 9:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?
Replies: 39
Views: 2334

Re: What's Your Nebbiolo Cutoff Date?

I actually thought you were going to be asking "when do you stop buying newly released Barolo/barbaresco?". I'm actually more in Izzy's camp, and would have said 10-15 years. But I actually rarely drink anything younger than 10-15 years if age, and have to admit (perhaps because of this) that it's u...
by john stimson
December 20th, 2019, 7:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2012 François Raveneau Chablis 1er Cru Montée de Tonnerre
Replies: 13
Views: 710

Re: TN: 2012 François Raveneau Chablis 1er Cru Montée de Tonnerre

Nice note. I would have thought that Raveneau was one of the few places that one was safe from premox fears. Have you experienced much Raveneau premox, or are you just being super careful?
by john stimson
December 16th, 2019, 8:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Clos St Jacques Dinner - all 5 producers
Replies: 8
Views: 937

Re: Clos St Jacques Dinner - all 5 producers

Paul great idea for a tasting. We almost did this one recently but decided instead to do our single producer/single year tasting (2005 jadot) of all of the St Jacques vineyards instead. We may yet do one, and pick 99 or 2002.
by john stimson
December 14th, 2019, 8:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2016 Cadence Ciel du Cheval Vineyard (USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Red Mountain)
Replies: 5
Views: 282

Re: TN: 2016 Cadence Ciel du Cheval Vineyard (USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Red Mountain)

Just tasted all four of the Cadence wines with Ben (he was pouring at the local shop). It's a strong, open vintage, with nice typicity amongst the wines. The Ciel is currently open and showing nicely, as Dale has said. the Taptiel is very characteristic with that idiosyncratic cherry note that says ...
by john stimson
December 14th, 2019, 12:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2016 Cadence Ciel du Cheval Vineyard (USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Red Mountain)
Replies: 5
Views: 282

Re: TN: 2016 Cadence Ciel du Cheval Vineyard (USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Red Mountain)

Philip G wrote:
December 14th, 2019, 11:51 am
Dale - Tried CdC for the first time on trip to WW last fall and really enjoyed their wines. Another Walla Walla gem :)
Phillip--just to be clear, the CdC vineyard is on Red Mountain, and the Cadence winery is in south Seattle, so not in any way a WW product. But excellent wine nonetheless.
by john stimson
December 14th, 2019, 11:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wife Just Got A Case of Wine Delivered, Am I alllowed to look?
Replies: 56
Views: 2308

Re: Wife Just Got A Case of Wine Delivered, Am I alllowed to look?

What would be really funny is if that's your Christmas present.
by john stimson
December 13th, 2019, 4:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Furmint: The Next Big Thing....
Replies: 9
Views: 692

Re: Furmint: The Next Big Thing....

I just finished another bottle of the 2013 Kiralyudvar dry Furmint. In great shape with no premox (I admit that a few have been oxidized). Has a strong petrol component on the nose, which is the only parallel with riesling that I see. otherwise it is quite reminiscent of a very good Loire chenin sec...
by john stimson
December 12th, 2019, 9:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Forbes: The “naughty truth” about wine tasting
Replies: 38
Views: 2681

Re: Forbes: The “naughty truth” about wine tasting

Geez, he sounds like a Baroque music snob trying to review a Phillip Glass minimalist piece. Nate, you lost me at "interesting." This guy is anything but. Wine tasting is existentially futile, but he believes in terroir? [rofl.gif] "I am also of the belief, as are the vignerons of European vineyard...
by john stimson
December 6th, 2019, 9:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002
Replies: 14
Views: 1226

Re: Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002

I would certainly believe it. Too bad we didn't one of those to throw into the tasting.
by john stimson
December 5th, 2019, 3:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002
Replies: 14
Views: 1226

Re: Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002

Thanks for the input. I'm impressed by the three bottles.
by john stimson
December 2nd, 2019, 6:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002
Replies: 14
Views: 1226

Re: Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002

Nice notes. Not often we see TNs on Leroy. I purchased two bottles of the 2002 Beaux Monts at release. They were more expensive than Rousseau Chambertin from the same vintage. I still have them and was wondering when to open them. You probably won't see any more notes from us. This was a one-off th...
by john stimson
November 30th, 2019, 5:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002
Replies: 14
Views: 1226

Re: Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002

Our conclusion, as well, was that the 99 was too young. The short finish however was a puzzle.
by john stimson
November 29th, 2019, 7:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002
Replies: 14
Views: 1226

Leroy Beaux Monts vertical, 1990-2002

Dr Grenley has spent a number of years painstakingly assembling a vertical of Leroy Beaux Monts, hoping one day to share it with treasured companions, perhaps on a momentous occasion.  I think, though, that he finally lost patience and gave up, opening them for the usual rag-tag group of us.  (It wa...
by john stimson
November 29th, 2019, 5:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Love a good screw
Replies: 15
Views: 1925

Re: Love a good screw

If I didn't know your palate pretty well, I would have said your post was tasteless. (That's a joke, BTW).
by john stimson
November 27th, 2019, 6:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1999 Jadot - Vosne - Les Beaux Monts
Replies: 7
Views: 620

Re: 1999 Jadot - Vosne - Les Beaux Monts

'99 Jadot - Beaux Monts - appealing black cherry nose. Thick and very concentrated wine. Black cherry and licorice flavors on the palate. Stuffed with fruit but not especially long finish. Enjoyable, but no noticeable Vosne spice, flavors leaning more towards Morey. 91. We just did a vertical of Le...
by john stimson
November 27th, 2019, 6:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Interesting recent experience at a restaurant that allowed corkage...
Replies: 33
Views: 2097

Re: Interesting recent experience at a restaurant that allowed corkage...

It also may be that she thought that she was plunking it down to let the wine "breathe" and that you weren't going to launch into it quite yet.
by john stimson
November 26th, 2019, 8:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili
Replies: 19
Views: 1673

Re: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili

Hey, talk to Aldo. He's definitely in the 8-12 years of age category. And he basically grew up in Ovello (although he is a winemaker, and these folks like their wines young). The 07 Asili and Rabaja we had recently were fine, but in the don't wait too long category. I would personally give the 2011'...
by john stimson
November 25th, 2019, 1:03 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What producers are you suprised dont get more mention on WB?
Replies: 187
Views: 11511

Re: What producers are you suprised dont get more mention on WB?

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
August 14th, 2014, 5:12 am
Charlie Fu wrote:Pycm cause people still don't know what it stands for.
Didn't Michael Jackson have a song with that acronym?
It was Donald Fagen.
by john stimson
November 22nd, 2019, 7:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2001 Barolo Thoughts?
Replies: 11
Views: 978

Re: 2001 Barolo Thoughts?

2001 is a very good vintage--I think on a par with 99 and 2004. 2001 went thru a very dull phase that was prolonged and some folks wrote the vintage off because of this, but that was a mistake (and an opportunity to back fill) It is still a bit young for some wines, (as is 99). 2004 is enjoyable cur...
by john stimson
November 17th, 2019, 2:31 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili
Replies: 19
Views: 1673

Re: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili

Iwould second that the 2011's are showing pretty well. We recently did a vertical of Asili and rabaja. the Asili is in a great spot (give it 2-3 hours of air for even better result. The Rabaja was a little turned in on itself-- I might wait a little longer, but not too long.
by john stimson
November 17th, 2019, 2:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN 2005 Hudelot-Noellat VR “Beaumonts”??
Replies: 8
Views: 667

Re: TN 2005 Hudelot-Noellat VR “Beaumonts”??

Yes, but they also sometimes run short of corks. Most often it's just a different vintage on the cork, but sometimes a different wine. I find beaumonts one of the VR's with less of an obvious VR spice note to it.
by john stimson
November 17th, 2019, 2:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: When your partner/SO goes dumpster diving in “your” cellar . . . .
Replies: 64
Views: 4863

Re: When your partner/SO goes dumpster diving in “your” cellar . . . .

Multiple threads on this. Frankly, I mostly don't care either, except when it's 5-10 years short of being enjoyably mature, and, yes, it should be enjoyed and shared. In my house there are 2-3 boxes of totally "safe" wine. These days, we are so totally connected that it's no longer much of a problem...
by john stimson
November 17th, 2019, 10:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1999 Luciano Sandrone Barolo Le Vigne (Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo)
Replies: 9
Views: 602

Re: TN: 1999 Luciano Sandrone Barolo Le Vigne (Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo)

Only 93 points? Your description sounds like a 96-98 pointer. Was there something holding you back on scoring? (I like Sandrone, and own a fair amount. What tends to hold me back somewhat is a certain slickness or homogeneity. One of my wine friends can spot them a mile away-says that every bottle o...
by john stimson
November 16th, 2019, 9:43 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Please help me understand this flaw.
Replies: 19
Views: 918

Re: Please help me understand this flaw.

If it was just one bottle, and if cheesy were the predominant thing, which is more lactic than reduction, I would favor bacterial, but if as the OP says they are getting the flaw in a number of other wines, I would favor reduction. the true test is whether it gets better with air (takes a while), or...
by john stimson
November 16th, 2019, 7:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Please help me understand this flaw.
Replies: 19
Views: 918

Re: Please help me understand this flaw.

Sure--used it many times. actually I think his sticks some from Chris Camarda. It really doesn't take much copper, so the thin sheen over tin on a regular penny is fine.
by john stimson
November 16th, 2019, 5:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Please help me understand this flaw.
Replies: 19
Views: 918

Re: Please help me understand this flaw.

Throw in a penny. If disulfide bonds haven't formed, it will often clean up the wine remarkably.
by john stimson
November 16th, 2019, 1:00 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Opened the wrong bottle of Saxum
Replies: 14
Views: 1538

Re: Opened the wrong bottle of Saxum

Another bad one is reaching for a bourgogne rouge of a given producer, and finding that you've grabbed and opened the RSV instead--and that it's definitely not ready. In my own cellar, I don't store all of a producer's wines in one place. the bourgognes and other grab and pour wines are in a differe...
by john stimson
November 14th, 2019, 2:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Your top 10 Chenin Blanc bottlings
Replies: 48
Views: 2621

Re: Your top 10 Chenin Blanc bottlings

Howard Cooper wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 5:37 am
I want to mention 2014 Château de Fosse-Seche Saumur Arcane. I don't have that much experience with Fosse-Seche but I very much liked this wine.
I just bought 1/2 case of the 2017 and it's just wonderful.

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