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by Ian Dorin
March 12th, 2020, 4:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Will stock market collapse equal lower prices at wine auctions?
Replies: 164
Views: 12997

Re: Will stock market collapse equal lower prices at wine auctions?

I'll be glad to check back in a month from now and let you know how my investment portfolio has moved over that month. I update my investment tracking on a weekly basis, so I'll know exactly where I'm at, as I always do. While acknowledging the utter folly of trying to predict equity market movemen...
by Ian Dorin
March 11th, 2020, 12:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Will stock market collapse equal lower prices at wine auctions?
Replies: 164
Views: 12997

Re: Will stock market collapse equal lower prices at wine auctions?

I would venture to guess that a very high percentage of people on the scarecrow list sell at least a bottle or two in the secondary market to bring their average cost down. Having to buy three bottles at 400+ with a questionable secondary market due to lower scores is exactly the reason there are s...
by Ian Dorin
March 11th, 2020, 4:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RUDY KURNIAWAN & GLOBAL WINE AUCTION FRAUD THREAD (MERGED)
Replies: 8509
Views: 1246686

Re: RUDY KURNIAWAN & GLOBAL WINE AUCTION FRAUD THREAD (MERGED)

Ian: No, I think you're mixing up two different components of the story. Rudy made three large purchases of old Patriarche burgundies, at cheap prices, which we believe were purchased to obtain glass bottles from the 20's through the 50s. The wine contents might possibly have been used as blending ...
by Ian Dorin
March 10th, 2020, 5:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Marchand-Grillot? Anyone??
Replies: 14
Views: 747

Re: Marchand-Grillot? Anyone??

I had the 2010 Au Velle years ago, and it was super pure, classic, crunchy and super enjoyable. If I saw them on a shelf, I'd grab out of curiosity to see if they were still the same quality. Issue is, they aren't around much!
by Ian Dorin
March 10th, 2020, 5:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Will stock market collapse equal lower prices at wine auctions?
Replies: 164
Views: 12997

Re: Will stock market collapse equal lower prices at wine auctions?

I had overlooked the 2017 vintage consideration. Not an unimportant consideration. You've also have had 5 vintages in a row that people were buying heavy. Despite that quality will be in the bottle, the "perception" of the vintage I think is a good excuse for a lot of folks to pass or sell off. The...
by Ian Dorin
March 10th, 2020, 5:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RUDY KURNIAWAN & GLOBAL WINE AUCTION FRAUD THREAD (MERGED)
Replies: 8509
Views: 1246686

Re: RUDY KURNIAWAN & GLOBAL WINE AUCTION FRAUD THREAD (MERGED)

To the best of my knowledge, the old Patriarche bottles were used as a source of old glass bottles that would be consistent with the alleged old vintages being offered and the contents may have been used as parts of the blends made by Rudy, rather than being simply relabeled. I thought it was cases...
by Ian Dorin
February 27th, 2020, 10:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2001 Coche Rougeots/1991 Bertheau Bonnes Mares...
Replies: 10
Views: 626

Re: 2001 Coche Rougeots/1991 Bertheau Bonnes Mares...

I'd be careful with the sediment in the Bertheau. Any older ones I have had chucked a lot of sediment.
by Ian Dorin
February 24th, 2020, 4:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Question for consumers about a 2% DTC assesment
Replies: 72
Views: 2651

Re: Question for consumers about a 2% DTC assesment

Not that Santa Barbara is Napa Valley, but if you were to get the most significant DTC producers together and do the SB equivalent of Auction Napa Valley, I bet you would get your funding (and then some).
by Ian Dorin
February 21st, 2020, 5:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik
Replies: 64
Views: 6277

Re: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik

I found out that-
Theise is no longer an employee
Skurnik still imports the wines

Nothing further to add at this time.
by Ian Dorin
February 14th, 2020, 10:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Auction Pricing Question
Replies: 42
Views: 2655

Re: Auction Pricing Question

In the sense that an auction item involves one seller and potentially many buyers. There's a "scarcity" element to it, plus the social proof as evidenced by multiple buyers...And especially with the internet, where practically anyone can join as a bidder and contribute to driving the price up. Thes...
by Ian Dorin
February 13th, 2020, 1:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Auction Pricing Question
Replies: 42
Views: 2655

Re: Auction Pricing Question

Fred Davis wrote:
February 13th, 2020, 10:26 am
An auction is not the place one goes to find a "deal." Great if you're a seller though.
Not sure I follow this logic. I think Peter's example is clearly a deal if you like that kind of wine.
by Ian Dorin
February 13th, 2020, 4:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Auction Pricing Question
Replies: 42
Views: 2655

Re: Auction Pricing Question

I agree. I think that's what Rich was saying too. Some guy with money decides to get into the wine business, hires an expensive consultant, hires out or buys some land that's either planted with grapes or that he plants with grapes, and he's already sunk a lot of money into the venture before he's ...
by Ian Dorin
February 12th, 2020, 7:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2015 Terlan Pinot Bianco 'Vorberg' Riserva
Replies: 35
Views: 1383

Re: 2015 Terlan Pinot Bianco 'Vorberg' Riserva

I love Pinot Blanc (pardon the French spelling). It is never considered a great grape, but for a friendly white wine, it’s hard to beat. This is the finest Pinot Blanc I’ve ever had, and it is close to if not already there as a great wine. I’ve enjoyed the basic Pinot Bianco from Terlan dozens of t...
by Ian Dorin
February 11th, 2020, 11:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Auction Pricing Question
Replies: 42
Views: 2655

Re: Auction Pricing Question

Aside from a handful of select wines and select vintages, almost no California wine is trading over it's current release price. The only one that consistently trades over the release price is Screamer. You would be shocked how many are regularly trading under release price. I can only imagine the b...
by Ian Dorin
February 11th, 2020, 7:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Auction Pricing Question
Replies: 42
Views: 2655

Re: Auction Pricing Question

If you are a savvy buyer, why would you bid the price of an older, lower priced bottle above the price of current retail? You would walk away from that specific bottle and move on to the next one. I would say the cult wines are going to get their prices pushed up to or above current release pricing...
by Ian Dorin
February 11th, 2020, 5:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Auction Pricing Question
Replies: 42
Views: 2655

Re: Auction Pricing Question

This is by no means an absolute, but I was curious why some wines made between 2000-2011 are less expensive at auction then more current vintages? Is the winemaking better? Are the grapes better? For examples, being a Napa Cab guy, I’ve bought a 2009 and 2010 Fantesca for $85 each. Current vintages...
by Ian Dorin
February 10th, 2020, 8:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Compare And Contrast Champagne Vintages 2008 And 2012
Replies: 21
Views: 1701

Re: Compare And Contrast Champagne Vintages 2008 And 2012

2008 and 2013 hog the spotlight, I'm interested to hear more about 2013. Terry Theise spoke really highly of it and referred to some of my favorite producers. Every bottling and '13 base NV I've tasted has been excellent. Chardonnay and BdBs really special. Not sure about quantities though, some gr...
by Ian Dorin
February 10th, 2020, 6:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2016 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco - its all about BALANCE
Replies: 97
Views: 8278

Re: TN: 2016 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco - its all about BALANCE

Ian- are you getting anymore in ? Just bought a bunch at 35 from wine library...probably open one as soon as they arrive to see if I should go back for more No harm in opening, and day 2 it's even better. IMNHO, this is the best regular bottling release I've had in my life time. Absolutely stunning...
by Ian Dorin
February 4th, 2020, 6:02 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2016 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco - its all about BALANCE
Replies: 97
Views: 8278

Re: TN: 2016 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco - its all about BALANCE

Just bought a bunch at 35 from wine library...probably open one as soon as they arrive to see if I should go back for more No harm in opening, and day 2 it's even better. IMNHO, this is the best regular bottling release I've had in my life time. Absolutely stunning wine. Disclaimer- Of course I sel...
by Ian Dorin
February 3rd, 2020, 7:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 08 Pegau / 01 Prager / 05 Pepiere
Replies: 5
Views: 417

Re: 08 Pegau / 01 Prager / 05 Pepiere

A random smattering of bottles to open the year that I thought would be helpful touch points for the community: 2008 Pegau CR - a controversial bottle given the amount of VA/variability to be had. I've been working through half a case and several earlier bottles definitely showed spritz/elevated va...
by Ian Dorin
January 31st, 2020, 5:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: QPR Burgundy?
Replies: 87
Views: 4437

Re: QPR Burgundy?

Wines that will show well in their youth-
Didier Fornerol (both red and white)
Maison Thiriet (both red and white)
Domaine Julien (red)

Agree with several of the above recos, but these will show you want you are looking for now
by Ian Dorin
January 28th, 2020, 4:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Robert Parker names his successor
Replies: 7
Views: 1950

Re: Robert Parker names his successor

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by Ian Dorin
January 23rd, 2020, 5:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Eric Guido To Join Vinous
Replies: 58
Views: 4134

Re: Ian D’Agata Departs Vinous

Ian has reached a stage in his life where he doesn't want to deal with deadlines and tasting hundreds and hundreds of wines. I can't blame him. That day will come for all of us, sooner or later. Of course, we are sad to see Ian leave, but this is a tremendous opportunity for Eric to take a leadersh...
by Ian Dorin
January 23rd, 2020, 4:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley
Replies: 66
Views: 7550

Re: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley

If I were Todd, I'd delete that last few posts, and ban Mr. Restine. Exactly the kind of BS we don't need here. I don't expect Galloni to spend a lot of time here, but I'd like him to feel like he's welcome when he does. Delete these posts if you want but the other fifteen or so posts he’s made are...
by Ian Dorin
January 22nd, 2020, 12:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley
Replies: 66
Views: 7550

Re: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley

assuming they didn't like scores he gave. Its provided in the context of the article about how wine critics earn their keep during tough vintages and when there are times that top estates just don't perform. He did provide Realm scores in this latest article but I believe they were self sourced bot...
by Ian Dorin
January 22nd, 2020, 7:02 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley
Replies: 66
Views: 7550

Re: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley

If a wine critic isn't banned from some wineries, the critic is not doing his job. If there is criticism to be had, I would criticize the wineries, not the critics. The critics are supposed to be providing honest evaluations of wines, not be cheerleaders for wineries. There is a lot of wisdom in th...
by Ian Dorin
January 21st, 2020, 3:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley
Replies: 66
Views: 7550

Re: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley

... If you rate a restaurant, you go there, buy a meal, and write. Limited financial outlay. If you are denied access to many wineries, buying independently sourced bottles of wine to rate them can be costly, and influenced by the sources. Wine writers depend on access for information and to get th...
by Ian Dorin
January 21st, 2020, 6:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley
Replies: 66
Views: 7550

Re: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley

Honesty is still the greatest commodity in any critic, but if you cannot easily get the item you want to rate (barrel samples, component parts of a pre-release blend, production decision information) then your ability to accurately assess the product is diminished. Informed wine criticism is gettin...
by Ian Dorin
January 21st, 2020, 5:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley
Replies: 66
Views: 7550

Re: A.G. On 2017 And 2018 Napa Valley

assuming they didn't like scores he gave. Its provided in the context of the article about how wine critics earn their keep during tough vintages and when there are times that top estates just don't perform. He did provide Realm scores in this latest article but I believe they were self sourced bot...
by Ian Dorin
January 17th, 2020, 7:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Kerin O'Keefe on Barolo 2016
Replies: 37
Views: 3395

Re: Kerin O'Keefe on Barolo 2016

The 2010's were nowhere near as harsh as the 1996 vintage. I found it quite fresh and the structure not so forboding. Agreed that 96 was impossibly hard across the board, and not as bad in 2010 as some wines were not that shut down. There probably won't be another vintage like 1996, but I could be ...
by Ian Dorin
January 17th, 2020, 5:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Kerin O'Keefe on Barolo 2016
Replies: 37
Views: 3395

Re: Kerin O'Keefe on Barolo 2016

lotta wiggle room in that claim, but from where i'm sitting, 2013 seems to have been the vintage where things got major hype and the top dozen producers/crus have more than doubled in price over the past 6-7 years, to say nothing of allocations that used to be cases and now are single bottles. and ...
by Ian Dorin
January 4th, 2020, 11:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5355

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

I disagree that 01 is not structured as well. I could see saying that about the 00s and many of the 98s. I think time has shown that great winemakers made great wine in those years, but considerable chaff had to be winnowed out. But I never thought 01 to lack structure. I gave up on 2000s long ago....
by Ian Dorin
January 4th, 2020, 6:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5355

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

I put 05 in the group as it lacks the backbone structure that comes in 2010 and 2016. That's my general issue with that group of vintages. As you note, I greatly prefer years like 2004 and 2006, but I do hold 2010 and 2016 in high regard as vintages that will age very well. ... You think 2005 lacks...
by Ian Dorin
January 3rd, 2020, 5:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5355

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

An interesting thread. I'm surprised that climate change has not been mentioned as a likely dominant player in the riper/more alcoholic profiles since what little I have read indicates it has affected temps significantly. Gerhard - what is your take on this given your long-term experience with thes...
by Ian Dorin
January 3rd, 2020, 5:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5355

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

I don't think it's fair to grade any producer based on years like 03, 05, 07 or 15. The vintages are hot, the wines are warm, ripe and full of alcohol. If you tell me you don't like a wine based on 2006, or 2010, that's a different story, but I see a lot of comments based on 2003 and 2007, and I re...
by Ian Dorin
January 2nd, 2020, 11:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5355

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

I don't think it's fair to grade any producer based on years like 03, 05, 07 or 15. The vintages are hot, the wines are warm, ripe and full of alcohol. If you tell me you don't like a wine based on 2006, or 2010, that's a different story, but I see a lot of comments based on 2003 and 2007, and I rea...
by Ian Dorin
December 27th, 2019, 10:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5355

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

We can call him, “Sir Mix-a-Lot”. He likes big wines, and he cannot lie No other brotha enologists can deny He like ‘em round, and big. He want 'em real thick and juicy So a good friend of mine is the importer, and he told me that Cambie's involvement is only as necessary, and is more of an adviser...
by Ian Dorin
December 27th, 2019, 6:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5355

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

Any strong feelings about Domaine de Villeneuve here ? the 2016 I tasted was really nice. I´ve very limited experience, mostly from the late 80ies/90ies. Seemed to be traditionally made with a lot of structure and astringency ... and their terroir is not the best in CdP - in the Northern part. Defi...
by Ian Dorin
December 27th, 2019, 6:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5355

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
December 26th, 2019, 8:06 am
Two words:

Phillipe Cambie.

Donjon is now DTM.
My understanding was that he was only helping in the blending. I can find out more.
by Ian Dorin
December 26th, 2019, 7:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5355

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

Isabel Ferrando is the poster child for all that is new and overripe in CdP, unless things have changed recently. Clos Mont Olivet is also now a Cambie wine, though I would agree that the base cuvee doesn't seem to show it. Vieux Donjon has been debated enough here. I don't see how people who taste...
by Ian Dorin
December 20th, 2019, 10:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: PSA: 2008 Dom Perignon $125.99/btl for 6 pack
Replies: 29
Views: 2456

Re: PSA: 2008 Dom Perignon $125.99/btl for 6 pack

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
December 19th, 2019, 6:18 pm
Getting close to enough.
There is no such thing with great vintages of DP.....
by Ian Dorin
December 12th, 2019, 5:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Tempier 2017 'Pour Lulu'
Replies: 8
Views: 880

Re: TN: Tempier 2017 'Pour Lulu'

I'm not sure why my expectations for this wine were so high. In the past, I've enjoyed both their estate Red and Rose bottlings quite significantly, and after a read of Kermit's 'Adventures Along the Wine Route' I thought I would visit with a new Tempier offering. Boy was this wine a disappointment...
by Ian Dorin
December 5th, 2019, 10:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vinous Acquires Cellar Watch from Liv-ex
Replies: 3
Views: 503

Re: Vinous Acquires Cellar Watch from Liv-ex

I'm still trying to figure out the Vinous business model, since it's hard to see how subscriptions can support this much overhead (writers, IT structure). I wonder what the mix is of trade versus consumer subscribers? I guess ITB subscribers can cite the reviews, so they can probably be enticed to ...
by Ian Dorin
November 25th, 2019, 1:58 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: La Paulee 2020
Replies: 23
Views: 2223

Re: La Paulee 2020

Alan Rath wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 8:50 am
Ian Dorin wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 6:29 am
Rousseau participated in the walk around tasting a few years ago actually.
2011 vintage. Yum.
IIRC, it was 2014s
by Ian Dorin
November 25th, 2019, 6:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: La Paulee 2020
Replies: 23
Views: 2223

Re: La Paulee 2020

YLee wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 6:08 am
Joshua Kates wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 6:06 am
YLee wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 3:06 pm
Why is DRC listed?
In the past, they have a special dinner, which one pays, quite a bit, to attend. Not part of the Grand Tasting, however.
Thx for the explanation
Rousseau participated in the walk around tasting a few years ago actually.
by Ian Dorin
November 25th, 2019, 5:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 Salon
Replies: 149
Views: 12759

Re: 2008 Salon

The problem with this market is that there will always be buyers for the top wines. You are not the only one to buy. I was chatting to a major British merchant yesterday, and he said that they sold some but it was slow. It does of course limit those who cannot or will not spend, many of whom are lo...
by Ian Dorin
November 23rd, 2019, 7:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best Chilean wines?
Replies: 35
Views: 1359

Re: Best Chilean wines?

Almost all Chilean cab's I've had are heavy on the espresso and pyrazines. Even the last 2014 Don Melchor I had was like this. Any suggestions for wines with better balance? In my modest experience, Don Melchor has a strong pyrazines and an iodine note when it's young, but the wine transforms and b...
by Ian Dorin
November 23rd, 2019, 7:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best Chilean wines?
Replies: 35
Views: 1359

Re: Best Chilean wines?

Aristos will blow all of these way. Wines are made by Louis Michel Liger Belair. The reds are amazing, but the Chardonnay is mindblowing. how readily available are these wines by Aristos? at wine bars such as Barrica 94, Bocanariz wine bars etc? sadly, not very. The base Cabernet is $50 retail, whi...
by Ian Dorin
November 22nd, 2019, 8:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best Chilean wines?
Replies: 35
Views: 1359

Re: Best Chilean wines?

Aristos will blow all of these way. Wines are made by Louis Michel Liger Belair. The reds are amazing, but the Chardonnay is mindblowing.

For wines that aren't $100 a bottle, Garage Wine Co. and Clos des Fous are sublime, and can easily hang with a lot of the big names.
by Ian Dorin
November 17th, 2019, 8:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ponsot...in general
Replies: 36
Views: 2534

Re: Ponsot...in general

A friend from my wine group opened a 1985 Clos de la Roche two weeks ago. Auction buy. Showed mild funk . acceptable to me. Nice wine. But I would not call it spectacular and would not tempt me to buy another one especially at the prices asked. I have a few bottles of 2006 CdlR. Don't know whether ...

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