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by Robert Grenley
August 6th, 2020, 5:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Acidification of Pinot Noir
Replies: 45
Views: 2207

Re: Acidification of Pinot Noir

People make a bigger deal out of it than it is. Any wine properly acidified tastes utterly normal and the idea that one could pick it out blind is pretty crazy. Well, going back to the reason I brought this up, the wines I tasted (several vineyards from the same producer in 2018) all tasted quite a...
by Robert Grenley
August 5th, 2020, 10:00 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Acidification of Pinot Noir
Replies: 45
Views: 2207

Re: Acidification of Pinot Noir

What are the restrictions?
I thought I remembered that in France or at least Burgundy, you can not both acidify and chapitalize. Not sure if that is accurate, and what if any restrictions there are in the U.S.
by Robert Grenley
August 5th, 2020, 4:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Acidification of Pinot Noir
Replies: 45
Views: 2207

Acidification of Pinot Noir

I recently tasted some just released 2018 pinot noirs from one CA producer, and whereas usually the wines are fairly lush and fruit forward (but not overtly alcoholic, and usually, as with these wines, the alcohols were general in the 13.5-13.9 range), these wines tasted quite acidic to me. Generall...
by Robert Grenley
August 2nd, 2020, 9:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RIP Peter Green
Replies: 16
Views: 1231

Re: RIP Peter Green

One thing to be aware of on the first two albums is that guitarist Jeremy Spencer did his Elmore James type numbers incessantly. So mixed in with the Peter Green gems are usually 2-3 similar sounding songs that were not my cup of tea. He did not have any songs on their third and last album before PG...
by Robert Grenley
August 1st, 2020, 11:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RIP Peter Green
Replies: 16
Views: 1231

Re: RIP Peter Green

Just in a Peter Green frame of mind:

by Robert Grenley
August 1st, 2020, 11:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RIP Peter Green
Replies: 16
Views: 1231

Re: RIP Peter Green

by Robert Grenley
August 1st, 2020, 11:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RIP Peter Green
Replies: 16
Views: 1231

Re: RIP Peter Green

Oh my!
by Robert Grenley
July 25th, 2020, 12:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RIP Peter Green
Replies: 16
Views: 1231

RIP Peter Green

I know it's not a wine topic, but Peter Green (my avatar here) died today at age 73. He was a brilliant guitarist who replaced Eric Clapton in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers (when Eric left to form Cream), then took the rhythm section, bassist John McVie and drummer Mick Fleetwood, with him when he lef...
by Robert Grenley
July 20th, 2020, 11:16 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which Jamet?
Replies: 30
Views: 1083

Re: Which Jamet?

Thanks for all of the input so far. No worries about how the event is organized--this is a long-standing group and we know how to handle our wines. they will get plenty of air, and efforts will be made to keep the wines at an appropriate temp. (a real problem with summer tastings of serious reds). ...
by Robert Grenley
July 20th, 2020, 1:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which Jamet?
Replies: 30
Views: 1083

Re: Which Jamet?

john stimson wrote:
July 19th, 2020, 7:58 pm
I'm contributing a Jamet to a northern rhone tasting soon (which will be mostly Chave, with one Allemand). I have a number of years, but haven't had any recently. any preferences on which to open amongst the following:

2004, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 2010, 2013?
I would suggest you bring them all.
by Robert Grenley
July 20th, 2020, 1:36 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has KLWM Lost Their Collective Minds?
Replies: 146
Views: 8347

Re: Has KLWM Lost Their Collective Minds?

“Getting priced out of the market for Coche is the same economic phenomenon that results in Americans paying twice as much for health care as people in other nations. If you think that's a good thing, then you are standing on the side of structural racism.“ What??? Maybe I don’t understand what stru...
by Robert Grenley
July 19th, 2020, 12:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has KLWM Lost Their Collective Minds?
Replies: 146
Views: 8347

Re: Has KLWM Lost Their Collective Minds?

I know a few folks have chimed in with the general gist of their comments being two fold: 1) stop your bitching, if you’re angry about the price, don’t buy the wine & 2) KLWM can charge whatever they want and the market will determine whether that is the right price. I largely agree with what you’r...
by Robert Grenley
July 18th, 2020, 2:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has KLWM Lost Their Collective Minds?
Replies: 146
Views: 8347

Re: Has KLWM Lost Their Collective Minds?

Perhaps I do not understand the business, but it seems to me that there is a difference between an internet or brick and mortar retailer wildly inflating the price to what the market will bear vs. the U.S. importer doing the same. The importer has been chosen to represent the producer and usually, a...
by Robert Grenley
July 13th, 2020, 11:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Do you calculate your end of life when thinking about what to buy?
Replies: 50
Views: 2017

Re: Do you calculate your end of life when thinking about what to buy?

At age 65 I continue to buy relatively earlier drinking domestic Pinot from a select few producers, and I have enough longer aging red Burgs in the cellar that are years away from reaching their peak, so I am done buying new vintages of Burgundy after 2015. I backfill favorite producers and vintages...
by Robert Grenley
June 19th, 2020, 11:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2004 Domaine Leflaive Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Pucelles
Replies: 16
Views: 825

Re: TN: 2004 Domaine Leflaive Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Pucelles

I had some bottles of the 2004 Clavoillon in the cellar for several years and they never became drinkable. I do enjoy the slightly reduced character of the pre-premoxed era of Leflaive quite a bit, but these 04’s were another matter altogether.
by Robert Grenley
June 15th, 2020, 2:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down
Replies: 193
Views: 7135

Re: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down

Sorry to quote my own post, but I would be very interested in having any non professional wine “experts” and especially the wine critics (William Kelley and Jasper Morris, both of whom attend the Burgfest blind tasting...at least “producer blind” by vineyard) comment on whether they look for typici...
by Robert Grenley
June 14th, 2020, 12:44 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down
Replies: 193
Views: 7135

Re: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down

Actually, I don’t see a compelling argument that terroir does not exist. Burgundies from different plots of land taste different from each other unless those differences are obscured and overwhelmed by winemaking techniques and manipulations . (Cases where a single producer is handling their differe...
by Robert Grenley
June 13th, 2020, 10:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down
Replies: 193
Views: 7135

Re: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down

Exactly right, Scott and it is me who organises the event... (which originated as an extension of Clive Coates' Bordeaux blind tasting sessions) I would think that Neal was looking for a “hook” for his article, when in fact comparing several different CSJ’s, or Chambertin’s, or Clos de la Roche’s m...
by Robert Grenley
June 11th, 2020, 9:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down
Replies: 193
Views: 7135

Re: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down

Exactly right, Scott and it is me who organises the event... (which originated as an extension of Clive Coates' Bordeaux blind tasting sessions) I would think that Neal was looking for a “hook” for his article, when in fact comparing several different CSJ’s, or Chambertin’s, or Clos de la Roche’s m...
by Robert Grenley
June 10th, 2020, 11:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down
Replies: 193
Views: 7135

Re: Terroir vs winemaking -- Neal Martin lays the smack down

Not to hijack the thread, but I have always wondered why a producer as great as Rousseau, who makes some of the (and in some cases “the”) greatest Chambertin, Beze, and CSJ, has traditionally underperformed at a number of their other wines compared to other producers. As pointed out, and although so...
by Robert Grenley
June 5th, 2020, 9:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What happened to Robert Parker? State of Wine Criticism in 2018
Replies: 110
Views: 9381

Re: What happened to Robert Parker? State of Wine Criticism in 2018

Although I was initially a skeptic and only ended up following Tanzer to Vinous, I have to say Vinous has really done a great job of adding writers and content. I am extraordinarily narrowly focused on Burgundy along with some domestic Pinot Noir, so I was pleased to see the Burgundy content increas...
by Robert Grenley
June 4th, 2020, 11:12 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine tasting at home - how to store unfinished bottles
Replies: 39
Views: 1563

Re: Wine tasting at home - how to store unfinished bottles

I’ve tried Repour, WineSave (argon), vacuvins, etc. For me the best results, assuming you know in advance that you will only drink a half bottle, is to immediately pour into a 375ml bottle with screw cap to the brim so no airspace (and screw cap so you don’t have to leave space to recork) and put it...
by Robert Grenley
June 3rd, 2020, 12:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What happened to Robert Parker? State of Wine Criticism in 2018
Replies: 110
Views: 9381

Re: What happened to Robert Parker? State of Wine Criticism in 2018

At my stage, I am almost entirely interested in Burgundy, and am not really interested in new vintages...mainly want to read recent recasting notes on older vintages, both to see how the wines in my cellar are doing and for judicious backfilling. As a result, I do not think I can hang on with the W...
by Robert Grenley
June 3rd, 2020, 10:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What happened to Robert Parker? State of Wine Criticism in 2018
Replies: 110
Views: 9381

Re: What happened to Robert Parker? State of Wine Criticism in 2018

I dropped the WA long ago, but got interested in William Kelley’s take on Burgundy based on his participation on these boards. So I subscribed to the WA again, gingerly, on a quarterly basis, to read WK only. At my stage, I am almost entirely interested in Burgundy, and am not really interested in n...
by Robert Grenley
June 2nd, 2020, 12:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Bernard Boisson-Vadot
Replies: 14
Views: 1244

Re: Bernard Boisson-Vadot

Some of the 2007 Grands Charrons I had were too reductive, though some were fine. I too like the reductive profile in general...here, in older Coche, and in PYCM. Stopped buying when the prices climbed, my last vintage was 2013 but haven’t tried yet. I thought the wines were well worth their price t...
by Robert Grenley
May 2nd, 2020, 10:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How good is Chevillon?
Replies: 92
Views: 4995

Re: How good is Chevillon?

HiFi cabinet?
I note that the “drawers” are not really drawers, but pull open the cabinet doors, which I assume are speaker grills.
by Robert Grenley
May 2nd, 2020, 8:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Losing Sense of smell from Corona Virus
Replies: 11
Views: 1085

Re: Losing Sense of smell from Corona Virus

Carl Steefel wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 7:42 pm
That is good, it is challenging to get a test (unless you are a Senator or President)...
Or a Hollywood actor?
by Robert Grenley
May 2nd, 2020, 11:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine
Replies: 99
Views: 3946

Re: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine

I had some good results decanting with both young and old white burg, rhone, and champagne but at the same time, I had some terrible results decanting young Nebbiolo especially from a cooler vintage, I found them tends to shut down in decanter quickly. Also had some terrible result with decanting K...
by Robert Grenley
May 2nd, 2020, 11:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine
Replies: 99
Views: 3946

Re: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine

Well, I am a dedicated decanter (or would that be decantor?)...with young wines to aerate, and with older wines to remove the sediment and aerate...with the length of time varying from very little to a lot depending upon the wine, the age, and whether one or two of us are living with the wine throug...
by Robert Grenley
May 2nd, 2020, 10:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine
Replies: 99
Views: 3946

Re: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine

the bottles in my cellar which have been purchased at release and have not moved an inch since delivery seem to have the sediment firmly caked to the glass. i have not had have any issues pouring straight from the bottle and getting clean wine. unless you are straining or filtering into a decanter ...
by Robert Grenley
May 2nd, 2020, 10:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine
Replies: 99
Views: 3946

Re: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine

I am curious in regard to those who say they never decant. Virtually every bottle of Burgundy I open with any age has sediment...whether its sediment is as bitter and perhaps as deleterious to the taste of the wine as with Nebbiolo, perhaps not. Yet, unless one were to keep the bottle on its side in...
by Robert Grenley
May 1st, 2020, 12:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine
Replies: 99
Views: 3946

Re: Gilman's new issue - essay on serving wine

As to decanting a wine to get it off its sediment, whether Burgundy or Nebbiolo, I am not sure why one would not want to do so. In which cases would it be preferable to shake the sediment around in the wine with each movement of the bottle and with each glass poured, and leave the last quarter of th...
by Robert Grenley
April 28th, 2020, 12:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How good is Chevillon?
Replies: 92
Views: 4995

Re: How good is Chevillon?

Just finished my last 96 LSG a few months ago. An excellent wine, but be aware it takes at least an hour of air to begin to open up. One other note in searching for older vintages, if I remember Chevillon had significant cork issues with an uncomfortable number of corked wines somewhere in the earl...
by Robert Grenley
April 23rd, 2020, 8:00 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Why Am I Buying Wine?
Replies: 42
Views: 2567

Re: Why Am I Buying Wine?

Maybe it is not a good thing, but I am drinking more than before. What a good time to enjoy the fruits of your collection on your own or with family. And, per C. Fu's post, there are ways to consider doing some virtual tastings where you distribute each other's wines among your friends and tasting g...
by Robert Grenley
April 19th, 2020, 1:56 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Exploring Chambolle Musigny affordably? (Drouhin?)
Replies: 87
Views: 2885

Re: Exploring Chambolle Musigny affordably? (Drouhin?)

In otherwise premium (ie: higher priced) vintages, I recently bought 2015 and 2016 Drouhin CM 1er in the mid 70’s per bottle, and bought a few just because they seemed well priced for the quality level in those vintages, and the fact that they were normally priced somewhat higher than that in recent...
by Robert Grenley
April 16th, 2020, 4:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Rhys Virtual Tasting--Thursday, 4/16 @ 5PM PT With Kevin Harvey and Jeff Brinkman
Replies: 199
Views: 5415

Re: Rhys Virtual Tasting--Thursday, 4/16 @ 5PM PT With Kevin Harvey and Jeff Brinkman

Down at our beach house so limited...fortunately a bottle of 2012 Horseshoe PN is here so opening it now.
by Robert Grenley
March 30th, 2020, 9:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Earthquake protection—something easy
Replies: 10
Views: 902

Re: Earthquake protection—something easy

Yes, thin rubber or silicone sheeting under and between would be a good idea to reduce slippage. Let me know if you find a good and relatively cost effective source for that. I have also thought of buying the most cushioned pads for the floor from ULine, but it would cover your beautiful floors...le...
by Robert Grenley
March 30th, 2020, 12:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Earthquake protection—something easy
Replies: 10
Views: 902

Re: Earthquake protection—something easy

Alan,
Just noted in your wine cellar construction thread that you have some bins as well.
Have you come up with an earthquake protection idea for those bottles as well?
by Robert Grenley
March 30th, 2020, 12:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Earthquake protection—something easy
Replies: 10
Views: 902

Re: Earthquake protection—something easy

Great idea! I have most of my wines in individual bottle custom racking with guards to prevent them from slipping out, but I also have a fair amount in custom floor to ceiling bins. I wonder if there was a way to use rubber bands to protect bottles in wine bins (these are the ones that fit 12 Bordea...
by Robert Grenley
March 27th, 2020, 12:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2010 Christian Moreau Chablis Les Clos
Replies: 24
Views: 1322

Re: TN: 2010 Christian Moreau Chablis Les Clos

I took a bottle of the 2010 C. Moreau Clos up to the wine shop to taste blind a couple of years ago and it was premoxed. Took a second bottle up a few weeks later and it was premoxed. By your description, it sounds like yours was as well. I have a few of the 2014, and I think I had better open them ...
by Robert Grenley
March 21st, 2020, 10:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Three “Mostly Montrachet” – March 27, 2019 at Spago
Replies: 44
Views: 2648

Re: 2011 Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Three “Mostly Montrachet” – March 27, 2019 at Spago

You could say the same thing about Bouchard's MP -- sometimes it's exceptional, but other times it's merely very good but not great. But Bouchard owns its own vines in MP..” Don, Any thoughts as to why the quality level of the Bouchard MP should vary so, from exceptional to very good...assuming this...
by Robert Grenley
March 13th, 2020, 11:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: CA Pinot vs Burgundy — why are critics kinder to CA?
Replies: 112
Views: 4532

Re: CA Pinot vs Burgundy — why are critics kinder to CA?

I was more intrigued that Galloni rated the Rivers-Marie Platt Vineyard 100 points...higher, I believe, than any of the DRC Romanee-Conti’s in years past, though I think the equal of the 2005 DRC La Tâche at 100 points. So it does make a difference (to some) whether this is a score based upon an abs...
by Robert Grenley
March 10th, 2020, 3:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: CA Pinot vs Burgundy — why are critics kinder to CA?
Replies: 112
Views: 4532

Re: CA Pinot vs Burgundy — why are critics kinder to CA?

I find, as mentioned, that Burghound scores for Burgundies and domestic, CA and OR, pinot noirs are pretty consistently scored ...meaning that it is very rare that a domestic PN gets at or above a 93, while top Burgundies hit 94-95 and the real top Burgs can go into the 96-98 range. So, by consisten...
by Robert Grenley
March 2nd, 2020, 5:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Premox % from 540 white Burgundy tasting notes
Replies: 44
Views: 2802

Re: Premox % from 540 white Burgundy tasting notes

“Our main objective was to get rid of the traditional corks and replace them with DIAM closures, which we feel more confident about." I was at that tasting, and that is not what I remember Brice de La Morandière saying. Of course, I could be misremembering; or Steve and Brice might have exchanged s...
by Robert Grenley
February 26th, 2020, 6:09 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10840

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

This is an extremely well reasoned and written response. Thank you. I also want to thank you for all that I have learned for your tasting notes and posts. As Jayson Cohen noted above, over the years you've provided a great public service to lovers of White Burgundy... not to mention an annual sourc...
by Robert Grenley
February 22nd, 2020, 11:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: HDH Auction Move
Replies: 39
Views: 3190

Re: HDH Auction Move

As a resident of WA state, I have been told that, without a liquor license, I would not be able to ship wine into or out of the state of WA, and would not be able to order a preprinted shipping label for such a shipment. When I have sent wines off to auction or consignment, I have had to have the co...
by Robert Grenley
February 22nd, 2020, 3:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10840

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

I would think it would be extremely useful to have a format for sharing your personal experience tasting WB's outside of formal and rarely published retrospective articles. Something along the lines of a "Premox Watch", though obviously named in a way that producers might find less offensive. But e...
by Robert Grenley
February 21st, 2020, 5:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10840

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

To add a critic's perspective to the discussion, it is certainly a complicated issue to address. When we review the new vintage, it is impossible to predict premox. And it is very difficult to organize a tasting of the kind that Don puts together here (which is one reason why I would love to partic...
by Robert Grenley
February 21st, 2020, 12:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10840

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

“... the critics continue to laud Boillot as being one of the top white burgundy producers without fail (while making no mention of the well-demonstrated premox problems)....” For the most part, critics have failed to discuss their producer-specific experiences with premox at all, which I find troub...
by Robert Grenley
February 16th, 2020, 11:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10840

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

Not that I agree with Emmanuel, but before we totally blow him out of the water with nuclear weapons, realize that a tasting of these wines in LA may yield totally different results than a tasting of the same wines in France. the wines that made it to LA have very likely been exposed to more oxidat...

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