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Well, Steve is the best winemaker in Oregon, possibly the New World. But you gotta like stems...and you gotta be patient! RT It is important to open the bottle at the right time. The world is awash in swill for the impatient. For the record, I think it's a jump ball between Steve and John Paul. If ...

Todd Hamina wrote: ↑March 1st, 2021, 9:08 am Well, Steve is the best winemaker in Oregon, possibly the New World.

But you gotta like stems...and you gotta be patient!

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Bob, you're on a massive Goodfellow roll! You've been opening way more OR wine than me this year.

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Thanks for posting. I've got a handful deeply buried. Sounds like no hurry.

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There is no doubt the wines are good but they are totally overhyped. COS is just as good, and there are other producers also doing good work. Definitely hyped. And yes the COS Frappato is very good IMHO. I'd give an edge to Occhipinti for complexity and interest....but the COS is regularly 25%+ che...

Kevin Porter wrote: ↑February 26th, 2021, 3:21 pm Might you not bother to post a positive note?

I might, assuming you meant me and the Siccagno.

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Thanks for clarifying that, Richard. I understand, I think. But it still seems to me you're saying the best examples of StLaurent come from Burgenland. But originally seemed to question why bother to explore other areas for StLaurent. Tom If you're playing the odds...my bet is that the most "e...

Marshall Manning wrote: ↑February 26th, 2021, 11:44 am I've liked the Frappato the best...

Yes, her Il Frappato bottling is superior. Over the past couple of years I've fallen pretty hard for her Siccagno Nero D'Avola.

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GregT wrote: ↑February 26th, 2021, 2:03 pm That Meinklang is a pretty good wine for the price.

Speak of the devil. Currently enjoying a 2014 Meinklang Konkret Saint Laurent (opened last night for dinner). Very nice expression.

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What you were originally saying/implying is that the World's greatest St.Laurent comes from the Burgenland. So why bother trying any from Calif? Nope. Not what I said. If you want Excellent Serious Nebbiolo...you should explore Piedmont If you want Excellent Serious Sangiovese....you should explore...

Ok-ee-peen-tee. That's how she pronounces it. I think it's fine to say Ok-ih-pin-tee. Clean and enjoyable funky...isn't too far off (mineral and spice). I've never had a bretty one. The 2017 is pretty and bright.

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Why would anybody drink Calif Zin when they can immerse themselves in Croatian Tribidrag?? Because they taste different? Maybe it's that terroir thing everyone babbles on about?? Tom Tom....that's a silly comparison. Zinfandel has, pretty much unarguably, reached it's peak ("serious excellence...

the best Sankt Laurent that i know of are Umathum, Schloss Gobelsburg, and Rosi Schuster (currently Hannes Schuster) Pittnauer certainly fine, Just had a Rosi Schuster within the past few weeks. Very tasty. I get Californians supporting California, but it seems strange not to immerse yourself in th...

I'm going to go back and rewatch that specifically. I'm guessing the real trick is in the quality of the pasta and cheese? I think the key is the technique by the chef of adding the pasta to the hot pan and then taking it off the stove and adding the cheese quickly and constantly while flipping the...

Berserker Dan Kravitz has been working, sampling and importing across the whole of Southern France for longer than most here have been collecting fine wine. From Provence to the Rousillion - Spanish border (i.e.: Languedoc and the Rhone Valley). He's too principled to recommend his own wines, but yo...

Quite tasty but still structured on night 2. Needs more rest. I stocked up on Erin's Pinots in 2010, 2011 and 2017. Some big gaps but you can't buy every vintage across the board! Hopefully the 2017 Cuvee J doesn't require 15 more years.

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2008 Evesham Wood Pinot Noir Cuvee J Somewhat reminiscent of the 2008 Illahe....except with more of everything. It starts out fairly tight and stingy. Underbrush, loam, mushrooms, baking spice, subtle fir with a rich layered fruit profile...black cherries, raspberry jam, strawberries and cranberrie...

Never been a huge fan of Illahe. I visited Russ when he had his first vintage in barrel (the 2007) and he did not seem all that enthusiastic about the vineyard or fruit. Yes, I visited about that same time and remember Illahe wasn't that exciting. Honestly, the wine exceeded expectations...which ad...

R M Kriete wrote: ↑February 21st, 2021, 3:47 pm 2013+ You really mean it when you say +

Well, I did consume a half dozen bottles of 2008 Le Puits Sec to monitor the progress of the vintage....over the past decade.

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You've got to open your Pinots some time.... 2008 Evesham Wood Pinot Noir Illahe Soy, sandalwood, baking spice, black cherries and black raspberries. Age has smoothed out the rough edges adding an umami-like integration. The aromas match the palate. Supportive acidity with some mildly herbal tannins...

Has anyone tried making that zucchini pasta dish? Seems pretty simple. Wondering what they left out. This recipe is close but clearly not exact. Simple doesn't mean easy! The little tricks (not to mention fresh, unusually tasty and properly ripe/sized zucchinis) undoubtedly make or break the dish. ...

The one nice thing is that the Lemoyne state store, not terribly far away is actually one of the best in the state There seem to be a handful of decent PLCB stores near Harrisburg. They always seem to have stray on-sale oddball bottles that I wouldn't mind owning. PA's wonderful BYOB options are la...

The HBO miniseries "My Brilliant Friend" was based in Naples and included several episodes with Ischia (no talk of Coniglio) which added a colorful dimension combined with Tucci's show and perspectives. A little bit of Italian is a big help when you stray off the beaten track.

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2008 Rhys Swan Terrace Pinot Noir The cork quickly disintegrated in to chunks. The wine is sound. Aromas of fir, mild peppermint and creme de mur. The oak has fully integrated. Blackberries, strawberries and a pleasing pomegranate tartness...tinged with a mild cinnamon-like tingle. Engaging acidity...

Marcus, With your love of burgundy and grower champagne, it would be just plain wrong to drink your wines early! Completely agree on your and Richards lists of makers. In that group, I have my last bottle of 1996 Evesham Wood Cuvée J standing up in my wine cellar waiting for the appropriate moment ...

Just happened to have a lone holdout. Served with grilled prime ribeyes. The cork was in great shape and the wine was remarkably fresh. Still some oak showing (mostly on the nose) but then it wouldn't be a legit steakhouse wine. Very refreshing and surprisingly lively currants, red and purple plums....

Mel Knox wrote: ↑February 16th, 2021, 4:33 pm I never had the '46 BV Pinot but I had the '68 several times...a good wine but not that exciting.

Always thought Carneros was the home of CA Pinot....reportedly the source of the grapes for that '46 BV.

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I've reduced my inventory of Oregon Pinot by about 5 cases, leaving me with roughly 16 cases. I think I actually have more Oregon Chardonnay in the cellar than Pinot now. Hope my palate doesn't change to mirror yours anytime soon....except for the champagne champagne.gif , 2x+ more cases of OR Pino...

Young vines produce very fruit forward wines. I believe you Marcus, but it'll be very hard for the average consumer to pick that out. In a blind tasting of young vs. old vine wine from the same (or very close) vineyard, similar clones, similar vine maintenance/harvesting, same vintage, same winemak...

Off the top of my head, some of my favorite older Oregon wines have come from: Additionally, wineries that I would like to have older vintages from would include... Pretty much agree completely....Unfortunately, this is a long road and hard to know when to stop. J. Christopher (now J.C. Somers) Cro...

After rummaging ("organizing") in the basement...I discovered 6 x 2008 Reserves. Not planning to let them sit for 14 more years!

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1999 Pol Roger Extra Cuvee de Reserve Brut

Who needs all those bubbles when the wine finishes beautifully. Enjoyed the 1996 several years ago...but this one raises the bar. Nice payoff for patience.

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I think this is very producer dependent. And bottling and vintage.... I've been surprised how many have aged nicely in to that 10 - 20 year window. They seem to get more tired after 20 years than Burgs (GCs at least) with plenty of individual exceptions. Also plenty that are better < 10 but hard to...

Hard to call it the epitome, but a fascinating wine. If you want to explore the variety of French Whites, I agree it's one that should be tried.

Are the Savennieres vineyards the best? For Loire Chenin, they're certainly contenders.

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How about tripling any professional critic’s drinking window? Too young and maybe you've wasted a bottle. Not young enough and it might be shut down. Once there's some age....is it still too early? I've had a few that were past prime, even at 10 - 15 years. 15 - 30 is kind of my sweet spot. 30 - 45...

Michael Lundeen should get more mention here, smart guy. I met him at IPNC several years ago and thought his 2010 Reserve Pinot was tasty. Still running his family wine biz? Pretty much lost track of his wines after that. He worked at Belle Pente IIRC? The past decade has provided a lot of opportun...

To get 35€ in the US, I think the strong relationship you would need is with dockworkers or truckers... Well, there's the old Scott Deluca technique. Slip the expensive bottle under your shirt and sneak out. Failing that, you might need to wrestle the shop owner to get out the door with the goods. ...

2016 Domaine Roulot Bourgogne Blanc 35€ is quite much for a BB and you can definitely find better QPRs. However this is still a very solid bottle of white Burg that sports good fruit and showcases skillful use of oak and has a very high evaporating rate. I certainly had to exercise some self-contro...

This link has lots of options to grow your own....https://fungi.com/blogs/articles/mushroom-kits I tried several years ago with the Fungi Perfectii plugs in stumps with no success. It's not like planting seeds and forgetting them until the plants grow. You need the exact right wood species in the ri...

I like the Westrey wines quite a lot, but most specifically Abbey Ridge. Oracle as well, which they purchased in 2000. But the Southeast Block and Flat Block of Bethel Heights are two bits of Grand Cru for Oregon. I obviously like the Westrey wines a lot, but the ranks have really grown up around t...

Tomás Costa wrote: ↑February 8th, 2021, 6:01 pm To me Chardonnay is lactic, even in Burgundy.

There're lots of non-Malo Chards. Have you tried some?

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This strikes me as a very young OR Pinot. Quite promising with more to offer down the road. Based on the bottle I tried....patience is recommended.

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I like the Westrey wines quite a lot, but most specifically Abbey Ridge. Oracle as well, which they purchased in 2000. But the Southeast Block and Flat Block of Bethel Heights are two bits of Grand Cru for Oregon. I obviously like the Westrey wines a lot, but the ranks have really grown up around t...

Josh Raynolds, in his original TN said to start drinking in 2021 and I agree, if not even pushing it out a few more. When these well-made Oregon PN hit their stride, they open up beautifully, and this is just not there yet. Thanks for the check in. Josh knows his Belle Pente. Warm vintage so you'd ...

2010 Seven of Hearts Lia’s Vineyard Pinot Noir, Oregon Woodsy underbrush, baking spice and jammy red fruit. An extroverted sour cherry attack with allspice, strawberries and subtle briar fruit. Mild tannic tingle through the midpalate. Decent supporting acidity. The finish is gently rubbing with sl...

12.5 - 14.2% There are exceptions beyond the high end....but not a whole lot. Within the upper half of the range, there's no guarantee that a given wine won't feel "hot". Unlikely in the bottom half.

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$3400 including food. Around 75 bottles.

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2018 La Grange Tiphaine Côt Touraine Vieilles Vignes - France, Loire Valley, Touraine (8/1/2020) Impressive concentration but rather rough at this point. I would not be at all surprised if this turned into something quite nice with age but it really reminds me more of young Cahors than of young Clo...

Markus S wrote: ↑January 31st, 2021, 11:05 am
Richard T r i m p i wrote: ↑January 31st, 2021, 10:58 am Looks like we're both in the 12 - 18 inch snow swath. Settle back and enjoy the vino.
Snow Day!!!

Snow Days!

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Fine value Burg producer. Down to 1 bottle of their 06 Corton.

Always enjoy your multi-bottle check-ins Bob....a reminder do so some cellar organization and prep for incoming Berserker wines.

Looks like we're both in the 12 - 18 inch snow swath. Settle back and enjoy the vino.

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