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A.Gillette

Howard Ripley tastings seem to have quite a few bottles... The samples are bottled and labelled, but they are not necessarily finished wines. Some of HR's white producers bottle within a year, like Fontaine Gagnard and Pernot, as well as their producers from the Mâconnais and Côte Chalonnaise. But ...

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I don't really know who all the major commentators are. I subscribe to/read Gilman and Jasper. So far the reports coming from those drinking wines from the bottles rather than in barrel are very different from those two pros (and they are very different from one another). That is really what I'm fo...

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It is en primeur week in London. I've seen a few reports here and there and so far the reports appear to be fairly unenthusiastic. None of this will affect my buying - I try to buy the same things every year - but it does seem like a vintage where there is almost no consensus on the reds, other tha...

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It is en primeur week in London. I've seen a few reports here and there and so far the reports appear to be fairly unenthusiastic. None of this will affect my buying - I try to buy the same things every year - but it does seem like a vintage where there is almost no consensus on the reds, other than...

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Looks like a library release of back vintage wines for some on the list. Pretty cool if you ask me.
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I didn’t love the Egon ‘18s that I tried. Worth noting that there is a new winemaker there starting with ‘18. 17s and 16s are very, very good. I thought some of the ale Gallais wines from those vintages were really exciting. The wines have always been more expensive than others. I think the estate w...

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I opened a mugnier ‘05 chambolle and a de vogue ‘05 chambolle for thanksgiving. I thought they were in an amazing spot for drinking and showed that the vintage is living up to the billing from the time of release. I’m going to start pulling and drinking more ‘05 village wines in the near future.
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D@vid Bu3ker wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2019, 1:04 pm
The only losers in the game are consumers.

The long-suffering drinkers of French wines and wearers of English bespoke clothing?

A.Gillette

Damn, I feel for some of you cats that buy a lot of still french wines. Getting sucked up into something like this stinks. I feel bad for the small business owners but as a consumer who buys primarily French and German wine, this strikes me as potentially the best buying opportunity of my life. I’m...

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Damn, I feel for some of you cats that buy a lot of still french wines. Getting sucked up into something like this stinks. I feel bad for the small business owners but as a consumer who buys primarily French and German wine, this strikes me as potentially the best buying opportunity of my life. I’m...

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Unless a particular merchant is tied to a specific delivery date in the next few months, I assume that they will just delay import of wines purchased on futures to the US and leave their wines in European storage until early next year when the Boeing ruling is delivered. I don't think anyone expects...

A.Gillette

Excellent! Let me know when the sellers get really, really desperate so I know when to jump in and buy!
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I think the reason for the longer wait is that people that may have deleted the e mail a few years ago, are now paying attention and purchasing. Hmm, I believe the longer wait comes down to economics 101. champagne.gif Cases produced: 2010 -- 92 2011 -- 116 2012 -- 143 (thx David) 2013 -- 227 2014 ...

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Anton D wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2019, 12:01 pm

The Robert E Lee stuff...what are they commemorating? Second place in the Civil War? By all accounts, he was a gentleman...

Well, perhaps not by the accounts of the hundreds of slaves that he owned.

A.Gillette

The GK in 375 went for less - 80 - last year. The spat went for 75 so it’s a little cheaper but not nearly as good. Hi Alex, I didn't follow last year's auction and was told 95 euros, but I guess this price includes taxes and commissions. Ok, so it is indeed only marginally cheaper. Still, your rem...

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I agree with Russell that most producers don’t seem to be holding back large stocks. I’ve tried to purchase auction wines from past vintage from producers and haven’t been successful. Furthermore, it’s my sense that these are economically important events to the producers. I have not knowledge of an...

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^The Keller schubertslay kabi is gonna shatter egon’s record. It was all anyone was talking about. I thought my bid - which was well above Egon’s kabi record - was high until I heard what others were bidding. No reason kabi can’t go as high as GG in my view. I’m interested to see if this starts to h...

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No he means you are way off that the Keller Pettenthal GG is selling for a lot more than € 500,- actually! Well, last time I checked “more than 500” included all amounts in excess of 500. I’m pretty familiar with Keller auction prices and I know what the pettenthal went for last year and in 2016. I...

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I recommend Pettenthal GG and Schubertslay Kabinett from Keller next week-end in Bad Kreuznach. Fair to say I haven't tasted Schubertslay, but Pettenthal. Also 2018 EMT by Wagner-Stempel is outstanding. 2018 Keller PETTENTHAL GG auction wine A monolith. Best Dry German Riesling, period. Such dirty,...

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Alex - yikes. Doesn't bode well if that's your opinion of the auction wines, which are supposed to be the best of the best. I'll tread carefully. Well, I didn’t skip the vintage. I bought quite a bit at the auction and a boatload of non-auction wines as usual. My buying strategy shifted quite a bit...

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I recommend Pettenthal GG and Schubertslay Kabinett from Keller next week-end in Bad Kreuznach. Fair to say I haven't tasted Schubertslay, but Pettenthal. Also 2018 EMT by Wagner-Stempel is outstanding. 2018 Keller PETTENTHAL GG auction wine A monolith. Best Dry German Riesling, period. Such dirty,...

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Tom - My impressions of 2018 are pretty much the polar opposite of yours. Outside of the auction I’ve tasted very little, and as a reference point I think 2017 is wonderful and 2016 is a little better, and I prefer both to 2015. As for 2018, it’s hard to pinpoint what is problematic because there is...

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^ prices, like the wines, seemed a little soft. There was a lot of action around the gigantic formats of a few wines, but in general the wines ranged from difficult-to-sell-the-opening-price to cheap. But I didn’t stay for Egon so maybe those went crazy. It was hard to think of anything there as a g...

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g.colangelo wrote: ↑
September 20th, 2019, 7:05 am

Russell Faulkner wrote: ↑
September 20th, 2019, 6:22 am
Schaefer Spat @ 71
Schaefer GK 375s @ 95
Wow! This is significantly less than last year! I did not expect it would go backward. But glad I'll have 3 bottles Spat.

The GK in 375 went for less - 80 - last year. The spat went for 75 so it’s a little cheaper but not nearly as good.

A.Gillette

Clemens Busch kabi goes as a steal at 25 euro.

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Do you guys think that the auction wines are noticeably better than the APs sold through retail or that they tend to be worth the premium? I notice that sometimes they get better reviews than non-auction wines, but sometimes they get worse reviews. I've never had any, but am admittedly very curious...

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^ I typically think of a Dutch auction as one where the auctioneer starts high and drops low until the lot is sold. As a result there is no incentive to bid your true price. The german auctions are a little different, as you have no transparency into what others are bidding and no (or very little) a...

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German auction wine. Its a special event it’s sold at. The sticker shows it. Fu, I get it's a special event that the wines are sold at. What I don't understand is are all of them sold to one individual, are they sold as case lots, and sold until they're all bought, or something else. I think what I...

A.Gillette

That color in a Riesling with botrytis isn’t concerning at all and certainly isn’t evidence of oxidation.
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I had this last night as well. Although I didn’t dislike it as much as you (and definitely didn’t get anything that I would consider cloying), I think low acid and straight forward are apt descriptors. I suppose given how many well-stored, oxidized Roulot’s I’ve poured down the drain recently, I can...

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Thanks David.
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I don’t think a GG will go to auction at the Grosser Ring during at least the current presidency. Schloss Lieser will auction their new Graacher Domprobst GG and DOCTOR GG on Magnum this September if I am not mistaking... Is this the only way the doctor GG will be offered or will it still be offere...

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Parker was brilliant to close his board to non-subscribers and to have Squires run the board like a tyrant. I mean, it sucked for those of us who were non-subscribers or didn't line up with his wine preferences, but the dude sold his company for $15M by positioning himself as the supreme arbiter of...

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Parker was brilliant to close his board to non-subscribers and to have Squires run the board like a tyrant. I mean, it sucked for those of us who were non-subscribers or didn't line up with his wine preferences, but the dude sold his company for $15M by positioning himself as the supreme arbiter of...

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Parker was brilliant to close his board to non-subscribers and to have Squires run the board like a tyrant. I mean, it sucked for those of us who were non-subscribers or didn't line up with his wine preferences, but the dude sold his company for $15M by positioning himself as the supreme arbiter of ...

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Back at home in NYC with my books. Brook quoted Mueller as saying that botrytis grapes went into the Kabi and spat in 89, 97 and 99 because it rained at the end of harvest and “the grapes had lost concentration and acidity by the time they were picked”. I’ve had the latter two of those wines. Reinh...

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Back at home in NYC with my books. Brook quoted Mueller as saying that botrytis grapes went into the Kabi and spat in 89, 97 and 99 because it rained at the end of harvest and “the grapes had lost concentration and acidity by the time they were picked”. I’ve had the latter two of those wines. Reinha...

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I couldn’t wait to pop one. Tough to evaluate at this early stage, but this tastes like a Julian Haart Kabi, which is high praise. Maybe a hint more alcohol than the ‘17, but otherwise nothing to suggest that this is from a solar vintage. It’s not too heavy and it has all the raciness and verve that...

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Here’s a good example from a quick internet search: ROSS: It seems the majority of German winemakers avoid botrytis in their Kabinett and Spatlese, as if it is a danger. Egon: I don’t see it as a danger, I see it as something that can give to the wine more complex flavors and aromas than a wine with...

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I’ve heard that all the wines have botrytisied grapes. But don’t recall the source. Stephen Brook talks extensively about it in “The Wines of Germany”. And Egon IV has spoken about it as well in various interviews. Again, I think it is no longer the case, although I have no idea if it’s stopped as ...

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Of course... if you're not an auction buyer in the first place, which is obviously the implication. The wine I’m taking about is a wine that is only sold at auction. You are either an auction buyer or not a buyer at all. I suppose there is a bit of a secondary market, but given that the wine is ini...

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[soap.gif] David rarely pays the high prices required to buy Egon's wines. You suggest that he doesn't have to worry about price simply because he doesn't care about the German auction prices. What's the confusion Nope - I’m suggesting that if price is truly the least interesting thing about wine t...

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Your misunderstanding of David’s point is of epic proportions. Kindly consult post #3 for proof. What was David’s point Tom? Post 3 appears to be about whether Egon is reliably within Pradikat. Enlighten me. A I got the impression he just meant that he'd rather pay attention to enjoying the content...

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[soap.gif] Your misunderstanding of David’s point is of epic proportions. Kindly consult post #3 for proof. Here is post 3, so you can clear up the EPIC misunderstanding: I am no expert, as I rarely put out the required coin, but I have never had an Egon Muller Kabinett that I thought of as a “sweet...

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Anything to do with auction prices. Awesome for you if you don’t have to pay attention to price. But I have limited resources so I have to be interested in the price at which wines are sold and I have to make relative value decisions. For something like this, the auction price is the lowest price a...

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Anything to do with auction prices. Awesome for you if you don’t have to pay attention to price. But I have limited resources so I have to be interested in the price at which wines are sold and I have to make relative value decisions. For something like this, the auction price is the lowest price a...

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Anything to do with auction prices. Awesome for you if you don’t have to pay attention to price. But I have limited resources so I have to be interested in the price at which wines are sold and I have to make relative value decisions. For something like this, the auction price is the lowest price a...

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D@vid Bu3ker wrote: ↑
July 6th, 2019, 6:02 pm

A.Gillette wrote: ↑
July 6th, 2019, 5:31 pm
It will be interesting to see how they respond when Keller breaks their kabinett price record at the auction this year.
Quite probably the least interesting aspect of wine, any wine, to me.

What aspect is that?

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There are others on this board with far more experience than I, but I’ve often felt that Egon’s kabinett and spatlese served as home to the botrytis grapes that didn’t make it into the big money wines. And some of the dry wines from the late 80s were downright awful. But I’ve thought the recent vint...

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Yesterday, deciding what I might want to buy from Theise’s 2018 catalog (probably limited to Schaefer) and weighing against my loose sense of overall wine budgeting, it popped into my head for the first time skipping 2018 Mosel altogether. It’s not like I *need* more German wine in the cellar. I’m ...

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