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Well, Tim.... probably the best one is Boulder Wine Merchant. In Denver is Mondo Vino down on Broadway. Very small but very interesting selection. There's a shop down in LoDo that specializes in natural wines but I've not been there yet. There's a brewery up in Golden called Coors that does good stu...

Todd, That's a great write up on WB. And we all owe it to MarkSquires!! Thanks for all you do here for us, Todd. We need to say "thank you, Todd" a bit more often. I participate in several other wine boards. Heck, I still get out my USB cable and hook my card reader into alt.food.wine from...

Cris Whetstone wrote: ↑February 27th, 2021, 9:06 am I thought '17 was the first but there is a listing and notes in CT for 2016 as well.

Well, Chris.... you could very well be right. But I'm sure it's the first one I've bought.
Tom

larry schaffer wrote: ↑February 27th, 2021, 12:26 pm Thanks for the clarification - you learn something new every day, right?

larry schaffer wrote: ↑February 27th, 2021, 9:40 amVM?

BobbyStuckey's term for skin-contact whites: Vini Macerati.
Tom

Tasted this last night as my white: 1. Solminer GrunerVeltliner Curarse La Cruda Skin-Frmtd deLandaVnyd/LosOlivosDist (11.6%; #910 of 2626 btls) 2019 : Med.dark gold color quite murky/cloudy; somewhat resiny/phenolic/ViniMacerati/cidery some GV/floral/white pepper/spicy complex/interesting attractiv...

My Ridge ATP arrived ystrday, so I cracked: 1. Ridge Zin WildCattleCreek/DryCreekVlly/SonomaCnty (85% Zin/10% Carignane/5% PetiteSirah; 14.7%; 20 brls; bttld April 2020; Drk: 3/20-3/25-3/26: JO; tartaric acid) 2018 : Fairly dark color; strong vanilla/Am.oak/Ridge oak strong blackberry/Zin/spicy/bit ...

OK, Jonathan...here you are:
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Tom

Taking one for the team, I cracked last night: 1. Forlorn-Hope Ost-Intrigen St.Laurent RicciVnyd/Carneros (11.06; 142 cs) Murphys 2014 : Med.dark color w/ light bricking; strong earthy/loamy/compost pile/forest floor light pencilly/oak some plummy/Pinotish/St.L somewhat rustic interesting/complex no...

Thanks for clarifying that, Richard. I understand, I think. But it still seems to me you're saying the best examples of StLaurent come from Burgenland. But originally seemed to question why bother to explore other areas for StLaurent. Tom If you're playing the odds...my bet is that the most "e...

What you were originally saying/implying is that the World's greatest St.Laurent comes from the Burgenland. So why bother trying any from Calif? Nope. Not what I said. If you want Excellent Serious Nebbiolo...you should explore Piedmont If you want Excellent Serious Sangiovese....you should explore...

We had these two last night for dinner: 1. Cantina Tramin Kellerei GWT DOC: Sudtirol-AltoAdige WW (14.5%; L20/055; www.CantinaTramin.It; WineBowImprts) Termeno/Bolzano 2019 : Med.dark gold color; low-key/fragrant lychee/GWT/floral/pear pleasant enough nose; soft/lush light lychee/GWT/floral off-dry ...

Why would anybody drink Calif Zin when they can immerse themselves in Croatian Tribidrag?? Because they taste different? Maybe it's that terroir thing everyone babbles on about?? Tom Tom....that's a silly comparison. Zinfandel has, pretty much unarguably, reached it's peak ("serious excellence...

the best Sankt Laurent that i know of are Umathum, Schloss Gobelsburg, and Rosi Schuster (currently Hannes Schuster) Pittnauer certainly fine, Just had a Rosi Schuster within the past few weeks. Very tasty. I get Californians supporting California, but it seems strange not to immerse yourself in th...

MattRorick of Forlorn-Hope makes one of the best in Calif. His was the first one. Again, from Ricci grapes in Carneros.
Tom

Tried these three back in KansasCity last week: 1. Rodica Refosk Slovenska Istra (12.5%; www.Rodica.Si; Vinum USA/BaskingRidge/NJ) Truske/Marezige/Slovenia 2017 : Very dark color; strong Refosk/black cherry cola/black cherry/licorice/boysenberry/ripe light earthy//dusty/loamy slight graphite/mineral...

Had these for my reds last night: 1. Drew PinotNoir Fog-Eater AndersonVlly (13.6%) 2013 : Med.dark color w/ slight bricking; some earthy/dusty some black cherry/PN some toasty/pencilly/Fr.oak fairly mature bit complex nose; lightly tart rather pencilly/bit cedary/oak fairly mature black cherry/PN sm...

My TCV shipment arrived ystrdy, so Pobega'd last night: 1. TablasCreekVnyds Roussanne EB/AdelaidaDist/PasoRobles (12.4%) 2018 : Med.gold color; very strong honeyed/honeysuckle/Rouss/floral/jasmine light pencilly/oak quite spicy some complex beautiful nose; lightly tart very rich/lush/mouthfilling ve...

What village, Matt?? Know Kansas very well & lots of friends there from being too many yrs at KSU ('60-'72; Nuclear Engineering & BB). You don't find any finer folk than in Kansas. I've had a few Kansas wines that didn't go down the drain...but I was desparate for a wine to drink. But they ...

____________________________ A wee BloodyPulpit: 1. Drew is the wnry of Jason & Molly Drew. He's one of the darlings of SweetAlice and the natural wine cabal. Yet his wines are always clean & never show any natty character whatsoever. Tom, where did you get the impression that Drew was a wi...

Sorry, as a fellow Kansas Citian (actually grew up in actual Kansas City) I have to jump in on this thread. Can't speak for Kansas wines, but I'm surprised no one has jumped in on the Missouri wines. Maybe the Nortons in Missouri (Hermann) are well known enough no one felt a need to bring them up, ...

Kansas kid here. K-State class of 2002. Go Cats. Great place to raise a family and we still live close to the family farm. As far as Kansas wine goes, I have yet to have one that I didn’t dump down the drain. 🤷🏼‍♂️ What village, Matt?? Know Kansas very well & lots of friends there from being to...

Tried these two back in KansasCity, prompting my grandson Caleb (a good Kansas plow-boy name if there ever was one) to ask me why I was always drinking wine: 1. gros ventre HighCountry White ElDorado (12.9%; 26% Arneis/22% GrenacheBlanc/20% Fiano/15% PicpoulBlanc/10% SauvBlanc/7% Vermentino; www.Gro...

Tried these two GWTs back in KansasCity last week: 1. ElenaWalch GWT Doc: AltoAdige (14%; www.ElenaWalch.com) Tramin 2019 : Med.light gold color; fairly strong lychee/GWT/hair oil bit pear/floral/pear blossom light chalky/mineral quite attractive/fragrant nose; lightly tart fairly rich slight tangy/...

Tried these two last night: 1. Drew PinotNoir MorningDewRanch/AndersonVlly (13.3%) 2013 : Med.dark color w/ little bricking; strong black cherry cola/PN/black cherry light earthy some toasty/Fr.oak/smokey slight w-c some complex deeper nose; fairly tart/tangy some smokey/toasty/Fr.oak strong black c...

Fascinating, Tom, thanks. I grew up near there (well 45 minutes nw of KCMO) and confess I have never tasted a Kansas wine - and now I don’t have to. Thanks for saving me from that. Well, Maureen... know Kansas well. What city?? I've had some Kansas wines that were actually decent. These were not th...

A bit late to this discussion because I've been back in KansasCity for daughter's wedding & caring for my Grandson. I think this is an outstanding article William has written & one in which I pretty much totally agree. Thanks for sharing that. When I hear a winemaker trot out the usual diatr...

Delved deeper into my recent Solminer shipment: 1. Solminer Dry Riesling CoquelicotVnyd/LosOlivosDist (12.6%; www.Solminer.com; 144 cs) 2019 : Pale yellow/near colorless w/ lots of tiny/swirling bubbles; attractive fragrant R/floral/pineapple/mango light chalky/stony nose; fairly tart/tangy light R/...

Fascinating, Tom, thanks. I grew up near there (well 45 minutes nw of KCMO) and confess I have never tasted a Kansas wine - and now I don’t have to. Thanks for saving me from that. Well, Maureen... know Kansas well. What city?? I've had some Kansas wines that were actually decent. These were not th...

Marcus Goodfellow wrote: ↑February 23rd, 2021, 3:20 pm Not very attractive x2 + Not very enjoyable. Seems a tough day of tasting, even if it was intellectually stimulating.

Yup, Marcus.....new producers I wanted to try I'd not seen before. You live & learn.
Tom

Tried this back in KansasCity last week: 1. Angelo Negro Brachetto Birbet Sweet RW Parzialmente Fermentato Mosto d'Uva (5%; PiedmonteGuy/Shafer/MN) Giovanni Negro/MonteauRoero/Piemonte NV (2018) : Light rose/cranberry/bit orangey/browning rather frizzante color; strong floral/Brachetto/strawberry/ch...

Shopping at Gomer's/MidTown, picked up these three "natural" wines to try: 1. Christina GrunerVeltliner (12.5%; Jenny&FrancoisSlctns) Weingut FranzNetzl/Gottlesbrunn/Austria 2020 : Med.light gold quite hazy/cloudy color; light floral/GV/white pepper bit stony some ViniMacerati/phenolic...

Tried these three whilst I was back in KansasCity last week: 1. StonePillar Favorita Kansas WW (Vintner's Collection; Vermentino; www.StonePillarVineyard.com; 10.5%) Olathe/KS NV : Very light/near colorless color; light grapey/vaguely Favorita light earthy very bland nose; soft off-dry (1%-1.5% r.s....

Tried this last night at Pig+Fig w/ Dustin: 1. ArbeGarbe WW RRV (14.1%; www.ArbeGarbeWines.com) StHelena 2019 : Light gold color; light earthy/dusty fairly floral/carnations/dandelions slight spicy/nutmeg very attractive nose; rather tart/tangy quite dry but not austere bit spare/lean light earthy s...

L e e H olland wrote: ↑February 21st, 2021, 7:27 am Thanks for posting.

I didn’t take that comment about spraying as preventing indigenous vines, but rather indigenous plants that contribute to the environment of the vineyard.

Yeah, you're probably right, Lee.
I read too much into that statement.
Tom

David Bruce!! Now there is a forgotten story. He did some brilliant things during the first fifteen years of its existence but what now?? They seem to change direction every ten years. DavidBruce is kaput as a serious wnry. He has serious Alzheimer's issues. He has a wife more interested in her poo...

In the early 1980s, as a young man, I thought of CA Pinot as a pretty generic ‘red’, as many wineries were still producing Pinot the way they did with their other reds... By the mid-1980s, I remember drinking an Acacia PN that had the ‘varietally correct’ Pinot aromas and flavors really down...with...

As linked by WineTerroirist today, an interesting article in the SprudgeReport of. An interview with JoskoGravner: https://sprudge.com/josko-gravner-the-sprudge-wine-interview-173928.html . He is a "natural" winemaker, but eschews that term to describe his winemaking and freely acknowledge...

Also tried these two last night: 1. Carlisle Zin GoldMineRanch/DryCreekVlly (15.2%; Plntd: 1914; + Carignane; 180 cs) 2008 : Dark color w/ little bricking; some milk of magnesia/chalky rather dusty/OV fairly raspberry/blackberry/Zin/lightly spicy light toasty/oak fairly complex quite DryCreekVlly/ar...

Tried these two Zins last night: 1. Ridge Zin EastBEnch/DryCreekVlly/SonomaCnty (15.4%; 92% Zin/8% PetiteSirah; bttld Dec 08; 2'nd vintage; Drk: 8/08-8/13-8/15: JO) 2007 : Med.dark color w/ slight bricking; slightly volatile fairly strong blackberry/raspberry/Zin/bit spicy slight earthy some smokey/...

Also cracked last night: 1. Carlisle Syrah Rosella'sVnyd/SantaLuciaHills (14.7%; 175 cs) SantaRosa 2008 : Very dark/black color w/ no bricking; very strong blackberry/boysenberry/Syrah/classic SLH Syrah/grapefruity strong toasty/smokey/Fr.oak bit petrol/valve oil classic SLH Syrah fairly complex nos...

I hear ya. I have a habit of cycling through lists and I'm doing just fine. I was curious to try the 2016 Lorraine, but I wasn't allocated any. I'll find another use for the $$$. 'Twarn't a matter of Jim cycling thru a mailing list....he was actually tossed off the Alban mailing list for some sort ...

An Alban price increase? I'm shocked!.....no matter to me since I got booted from the list some time ago.....and I'm still alive. I hear ya. I have a habit of cycling through lists and I'm doing just fine. I was curious to try the 2016 Lorraine, but I wasn't allocated any. I'll find another use for...

Tried these two last night: 1. Turley PetiteSirah RattlesnakeAcres/NapaVlly (13.2%) 2001 : Very dark color w/ light bricking; strong pencilly/cedary/oak/oldRed slight blackberry/PS/earthy/loamy bit complex nose; soft rather earthy/loamy/oafish fairly cedary/pencilly/oldRed slight blackberry/PS/bit p...

Tried this last week w/ Susan: 1. Castelli May Blush Dry Rose Wine GreenVlly of RRV/SonomaCnty (12.5%) NV (2020) : Light rose bit orange/cranberry rather cloudy color w/ lots of bubbles when poured; fairly strong cranberry/spicy/watermelon light earthy fairly fragrant nose; quite fizzy/prickly fairl...

Tried these two from the archives a few days ago: 1. Radio-Coteau Syrah Timbervine RRV (Joe Mesics & Eva Auchincloss: growers; 300 cs; U/U; 15.0%) 2003 : Very dark color w/ light bricking; strong spicy/blackberry/Syrah light cold-climate/b lack pepper bit w-c/Rhonish light pencilly/oak fairliy c...

Finally cracked one of these open last week: 1. Bedrock OldHillRanch Heritage SonomaVlly/SonomaCnty RW (14.5%; Plntd: 1880's by WilliamMcPhersonHill; Tended: BucklinFamily) 2019 : Very dark color; beautiful blackberry/boysenberry/Zin/classic SonomaVlly spicy/rather black pepper light toasty/oak/smok...

Had these two Gruners late last week after my return from Bakersfield: 1. Solminer GrunerVeltliner SpearVnyd/SantaRitaHills (185 cs; 13.8%) 2019 : Med.gold color; fairly strong GV/white pepper/spicy lightly floral/carnations some stony/mineral bit complex nose; fairly tart/tangy light stony/mineral ...

We had these three last night w/ DinDin: 1. Dom.Carrel Jongieux AC: Vin de Savoie (11.5%; VintageImprts/Denver; www.Eugene-Carrel.com; Jacquere grape) Eugene et Paulette Carrel/Jongieux 2019 : Pale yellow color; rather fragrant Alpine white flowers/floral/carnations/apples some mineral/chalky/apples...

Tried this Fri night when I needed a good red: 1. Ridge Geyserville AlexVlly/SonomaCnty (14.5%; 68% Zin/18% Carignane/12% PetiteSirah/2% AlicanteBouschet; bttld Jan 2019; Drk: 8/18-8/33: EB) 2017 : Dark color; very strong blackberry/spicy/Zin bit plummy/peppery some Ridge/vanilla/Am.oak some dusty/O...

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