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I deleted a lot of my notes from this thread including several TN's but tonight is 2004 Cirillo "1850" Old Vine Grenache Barossa. Upon opening no excess oak but too tired and herbal. Two hours later not tired, no excess oak, unusual flavors of tar and herbs along with driving dark fruit. 168 year ol...

Betty C wrote: ↑
January 23rd, 2019, 11:55 pm
I have to bow out. Turns out my MIL’s birthday is on Sunday and I’m making her lunch.

Have fun!

Betty, Betty, Betty....ok fine...does she like wine?

Here are the wines I'm thinking of opening. No HOG or Grange. I need an Ares or Aphrodite..Randy Bowman? The cabernets make a nice flight and I'll bring them all, I marked them with an @ sign...the shirazes with an asterisk I'm definitely bringing... But what else do I bring? Opinions pro and con? _...

I'm probably bringing a magnum of Hubert Lignier 1990 Morey St. Denis Premier Cru. I know a magnum is a lot but if I bring it I won't bring a second bottle which would be a first for me. Good idea. When you drop it, we can rescue about a bottle's worth neener Before it hits the sidewalk drain

I'm probably bringing a magnum of Hubert Lignier 1990 Morey St. Denis Premier Cru. I know a magnum is a lot but if I bring it I won't bring a second bottle which would be a first for me.

That was Park and Howard. We'd have to skip appetizers and dessert.

Yao C wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2019, 10:20 pm
I'll be there with Winfred! Looking forward to it

Winfred will definitely like a couple of these

Divino's side room was indeed great. I'll avoid the horrible French onion soup and the horrible short ribs at Paul Martin's . They were crap. Sounds like I'll order a steak.

Michael O'Brien wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2019, 3:20 pm
I have a couple of magnums of 2003 d'Arenberg but have no idea if I should open them. Any recommendations. Bought them on a whim at a very low price.

Show up without them I'll have a lot of wine there. It'll give you an idea of when to open them. Dead Arm ages well.

Confirmed today with our usual venue for 3:30 Sunday January 27th on the water in the Marina district in SF. All are welcome.

Darren that would be great. He stayed at my house once many years ago when he was selling wine but not yet making it .

Last night 1998 Maxwell Lime Cave Cabernet. Very good acidity, getting leaner , no oak, clean and balanced, very good cab.

I'd prefer the 28th if I have my event on the 27th so I can bring my leftovers for Craig the next day.

Tonight was the 2002 Aquilon Garnacha, which is basically Alto Moncayo Reserve. Same winemaker as the 2002 Hobbs. Oakier but great deep complex wine. Much better than on release.

Both entertaining and interesting. Seriously doubt I am a supertaster but would not be at all surprised if my wife is one. https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/how-science-saved-me-from-pretending-to-love-wine Brodie Very fun to read. I did the circle-reinforcement blue food coloring...

I'm planning on an Old Aussie thing for the 27th in SF and you all are invited. I'm open to all suggested dates.

Tonight I had the 2002 Hobbs Shiraz (no, not Paul Hobbs, this is the next door neighbor of Chris Ringland's Three Rivers vineyard). Calmed down, great acidity (!!), outstanding wine. I sampled at the restaurant (Prima) glasses of Barolo, Banyuls, and Etna Rosso, and this was clearly on a much higher...

Nobody goes into retail wine stores any more, they're too crowded.

Eric Ifune wrote: ↑
December 27th, 2018, 10:28 am
Won't be able to make it. Sounds like a fun tasting. I've a few older Aussies myself.

Ok. After the Aussies, the next narrow-themed dinner I host will probably be Rhys because I have so many.

George here's a partial: Cabernet: 2000 Katnook Estate Odyssey Coonawarra 2002 Troll Creek Barossa Valley 2003 Rusden Boundaries Barossa Valley 2005 Two Hands Aphrodite Barossa Valley Shiraz: 2000 Dutschke Oscar Semmler Barossa Valley 2001 Oliver's Taranga 2002 Greenock Creek Seven Acre Barossa Val...

Found some more 1998's in my cellar it'll be quite the retrospective

Eric Lundblad wrote: ↑
December 25th, 2018, 11:10 pm
I'm in if it's in SF or oakland! Woo Hoo.

Good on ya mate

Eric if it's in SF it will probably be the last Sunday in January. It depends on who wants to attend and when. So far it's unanimous meaning Richard.

Last week I had side by side the 1997 Roennfeldt and a 2006 Alban Reva syrah. The former was an exact ringer for a 2001 La Mouline but better, and the latter an exact ringer for a too young and therefore still too oaky Chris Ringland but not as good. I mean exact.

Last year I opened at different times my only bottle of Jadot Montrachet and my only bottle of 2005 Jadot Demoiselles. The former was exactly as you describe and the latter was easily one of the best Chardonnays I will ever have. From what I've read, Grivot improved exponentially starting with 2005,...

If you run short of wines, we still have some older vintages, 1999 to 2005 in the back room. Odds and ends from Two Hands including Aphrodite, Cape d'Estaing, Hazy Blur, Burge Family Draycott, Rusden, Langmeil, Oliver's Taranga, Tatiarra, Greenock Creek and Hundred Acre Ancient Ways. Maybe more tha...

Craig G wrote: ↑
December 22nd, 2018, 4:34 pm
I have to check my dingo for ticks that day.

And every day. They hide in the bush from whence the dingo springs.

What's the new place in MV? Sommelier said he'd be happy to have us. Very enthusiastic knowledgeable guy in an unusual venue. They don't usually waive corkage but he said he would if we ever go there. Not sure he's allowed to follow through with that so that's all I'll say for now. Not sure he's ev...

Update January 22: confirmed Sunday January 27 3:30 pm free parking, informal, $20 to the venue plus any food (optional) plus tips. Venue on the water in the Marina district, PM me if needed. ******************* Recent data points are overwhelming: it's the perfect time. Shiraz and Cabernet. Locatio...

My two favorites. Both on the chalky/minerally side

Stirm 50 year old Vines
1995 Renaissance in magnum tried this year

Glad I went to the Ian Brand dinner at Deetjens last month. I knew him when.

Just drank the 12 over several days, got better each day, a young wine, delicious!

Re the 1991 cask 23: I was predisposed to be underwhelmed but it was a really beautiful wine. The Beaux Monts: agree on the overall impression that just because a Leroy merchant gets $1000 for her bottling does not make it a great vineyard. Inferior to Suchots eg IMO. Meh. But I liked 1999 and 2002 ...

I'm bringing magnums of old Burg

Confirmed, it's on.

I believe the black label means something about his access to the vineyard source for that wine.

Jim honors Richard in his own way

Our last gathering in August. There were people there also.

Richard Leland has sold Vintage Wines after 28 years, 42 in the wine biz. Whether he likes it or not, we are having an informal offline in his honor Sunday December 9 at 3:30 PM on the water in SF. Usual place, free parking. Location by PM only. You don't need to know Richard to attend but you do ne...

Im interested for two people (edited one day later..can't make it sorry)

Yes Ian thanks, I get to eat real tomatoes for a change.

Andreas thanks for the list. Yes, besides the wrong sized crowded table which irritated me as soon as I arrived, I was especially disappointed in the corkage. Common courtesy to me means we should have been charged $150 less than we were. But Mike, the guy who has always hosted me, with great kindne...

I felt that a couple of the Williams Selyems were great microcosms of the whole Burt Williams era and style and I'm grateful for that. The whites and bubbles people brought were awesome and no two were alike. 93 RRV, 96 Allen were great examples of delicious WS wines. Hedonistic three dimensional. 9...

Again we might run into some brett

Does anyone have a beaker or two? That will prevent overpouring. Also, I suggest they be Bott poured (one person pours one wine for everyone, keeping the bottle horizontal the entire time so as to not shake up the sediment) I prefer one person stands up and pours each. It won't delay anything becau...

Very helpful, thanks, three (perhaps four) nonblind flights it is. My only reason for blind was so that people wouldn't take giant pours of the Rochiolis or the 94 Allen while others got none. Three flights are a great idea and accomplish the same thing. My preference for flights: First flight (1) o...

Blind on the WS or not blind?

I packed 11 bottles this morning, 9 WS and two old US pinots, and I'm happy about the lineup and the fills. Definitely includes some of the best wines Burt Williams made.

Craig G wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2018, 8:38 pm
I have a scheduling problem and will probably not be able to get there until about 8-8:15pm, but I’ll be there. I have a 1997 Dehlinger Reserve Pinot Noir.

Sounds good, thanks.

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