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by RTP Latham Richard
April 10th, 2021, 5:15 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: My new 100 point scale
Replies: 53
Views: 1849

Re: My new 100 point scale

No doubt the scoring system of Mark Golodetz works for him but it certainly would not would not work for me. [In the following W.A.V.R. = Wine Advocate Vintage Rating.] To me 85-87 offErs some enjoyment and 88-90 offers some more. 90.5 to 92 has quite a lot of enjoyment. 92.5 to 95 is definitely enj...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 10th, 2021, 3:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What happened to Robert Parker? State of Wine Criticism in 2018
Replies: 116
Views: 10697

Re: What happened to Robert Parker? State of Wine Criticism in 2018

I feel fortunate in liking several (but not all) styles of lrft bank red Bordeaux . A combination of 1/3 Neal Martin's score + 2/3 Antonio Gallonii's score is usually very close to the score I would give. For Napa I would go with Galloni. For other wines I do not bother with critics. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
April 10th, 2021, 1:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Inside Bordeaux
Replies: 35
Views: 1653

Re: Inside Bordeaux

I have had several of the named wines. They had high QPR, but very seldom were given high scores from me. I do not mind paying a bit more for better wines, as long as they are reasonably priced. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
April 10th, 2021, 12:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: NV Billecart-Salmon Champagne Brut Rosé (France, Champagne)
Replies: 10
Views: 399

Re: TN: NV Billecart-Salmon Champagne Brut Rosé (France, Champagne)

My wife and I really enjoy this wine. Luckily we see a lot of it at our club (in normal times). RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
April 10th, 2021, 12:20 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: My new 100 point scale
Replies: 53
Views: 1849

Re: My new 100 point scale

By far the best QPR I ever had was in Spain in 1955 from wine in a goatskin, The wine was certainly not great but it was refreshing. I liked it enough to drink about a half bottle of it. Later I worked out the cost for this as about 1.25 cents U.S. (I did not pay for it). Even with inflation taken i...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 10th, 2021, 10:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: My new 100 point scale
Replies: 53
Views: 1849

Re: My new 100 point scale

To me and various other people 93 point wines (and even 92.5 point wines) are really enjoyable. I consider 90.5 wines enjoyable and we have a small amont of wines scoring from this to 92. I never buy any wine I consider over-priced, including all the official first growths. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
April 10th, 2021, 9:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: My new 100 point scale
Replies: 53
Views: 1849

Re: My new 100 point scale

I hope the moderator or the gremlin that blocks my posts does not do so this time. I do not intend to try to send this post more than twice. I consider your range 0f 94-98 for "a really great wine" too large. I find it virtually impossible to find a wine I would be likely to score 97 or mo...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 5th, 2021, 5:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

It is now clear to me that I do use the system of Leibniz, but who does not? I used to drink lots of Burgundy and some Rhone wines, but it never occurred to me to do something to evaluate them other then by quality and price. Theoretically one could determine the maximum one would pay for a perfect ...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 5th, 2021, 9:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To M.Kaplan: I evaluate wines by my taste buds, and only try to "classify" (if I bother to do so) wine I have ALREADY bought. I do not know if I use the arithmetical system of Leibniz or not, but I sometimes use the 1970s ff. improvement to his calculator for deciding what I would pay for ...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 4th, 2021, 9:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Jayson Cohen and some others, many thanks for your good wishes. As for the square root, it is only used because 1.0524 is the square root of 1.108. To compare relative values of left bank red Bordeaux wines that are one point apart I divide the higher price by 1.108 (explanation elsewhere) and if...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 11:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

Just about everyone seems to have their own system and it seems to work well for them. This is just what I expected and I am happy for them. I thought my system to evaluate wines by "classification" might interest someone, and on another website it has. I am satisfied. As I am too cheap to...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 9:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

I probably can no longer remember what little more I had to say. My "system" for "classifying" left bank red Bordeaux of a particular year has the flaw of expecting results from the top 2 scorers in a year to be approximately in accordance with an assumption. I would really like ...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 9:35 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

The moderator is really getting my goat, wiping out posts before I can send them. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 9:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To choose the wines of which to buy one bottle to try I usually rely on the Farr Vintners website scores of Neal Martin and particulartly Antonio Galloni. I also check for price and availability (mainly on Wine Searcher). Then if I like the wine enough (minimum score 90.5, preferably and often 92.5 ...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 9:09 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

I only evaluate wines after I have bought them (if I feel like bothering) as far as my "system" for classifying left bank red Bordeaux of a particular year goes. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 9:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To the recent posters: I have concluded that the maths skills of people iin this website are perfectly fine. I did not mean to offend or insult anyone, and if I did so I deeply apologize. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 9:02 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

deleted as redundant. RTPL.
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 9:02 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

The whatevev who runs this website keeps saying the submitted form was invalid without saying why. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 5:12 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Otto Forsberg: I largely find the Bordeaux of which I buy one bottle to taste from the Farr Vintners website score of Neal Martin and particularly Antonio Galloni. I do check on the price brfore ordering the one bottle. Then if I really like it (minimum score 90.5 from me, 92.5 and up preferred a...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 3:47 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To the recent posters: I hope you realize that I only use my "system" after I have bought a wine. The decision about whether or not to buy a wine is made only by my taste buds and the wine's price and availability. I can think of 2 alternative methods, both flawed, for determining the like...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 3rd, 2021, 4:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

for Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Mark Golodetz, Otto Forsberg, Jeff Leve and other "attackers" : please let me know what (if any) is your system for classifying wines for a given year? What is your range of scores for each growth classification? Does that depend on the area's Vintage Rating for the year in question? Ho...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 2nd, 2021, 7:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Mark Golodetz: I was not trying to insult anyone, only defend myself from what I considered unfair attacks on my system, often from those who did not seem to understand that the purpose of the system was to find the correct "clsasification" for wines AFTER I had boght them. The buying d...
by RTP Latham Richard
April 2nd, 2021, 1:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

I most admit that I find it REALLY hard to undeRstand how any sensible peron cannot easily grasp how and why I use (if I feel like it) my very simple and unimportant "system".RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
March 31st, 2021, 1:46 pm
Forum: Wine 101: The Basics
Topic: Best wine critic for Napa Cabernet Sauvignon
Replies: 15
Views: 754

Re: Best wine critic for Napa Cabernet Sauvignon

Antonio Galloni, but I drink mostly left bank red Bordeaux (I do drink some Napa). As I expect most people do, I go my own taste buds. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
March 30th, 2021, 10:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Terroir..."
Replies: 245
Views: 7983

Re: "If You Irrigate, It's Not Te rroir..."

If you are irrigating with reasonably pure water, is that not like rainfull? Also if the rainfall in a place is really low, how do you make wine without irrigation ? (Of course some areas seldom need it). Not many years ago I had a very enjoyable Cab called something like Osoyoos Larose (I am unsure...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 30th, 2021, 10:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?
Replies: 48
Views: 2600

Re: More Oregon vs. Burgundy: So WHY are they incomparable or comparable to you in terms of flavors/aromas/terroir?

Burgundy has become quite expensive in many cases, and while I like Oregon PNs usually I find I tend to prefer Sta. Rita Hills PNs (and often Chards, though my wife & I often buy an inexpensive South African one that we love, mostly for her as she drinks little red). RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
March 30th, 2021, 4:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Grape best suited to transmitting terroir
Replies: 54
Views: 2298

Re: Grape best suited to transmitting terroir

Most wine grapes can to some extent, but I think I agree with those who say Pinot Noir. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
March 29th, 2021, 3:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: QPR
Replies: 74
Views: 3101

Re: QPR

I thought I had posted re QPR twice, but with my lousy computer and typing skills (I am very old) seem to have been wrong both times. THe best QPR I ever had (I did not pay for it but am not counting that fact or bottles bought by others) was in 1955 in Spain from a goatskin: I had about half a bott...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 29th, 2021, 9:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: QPR
Replies: 74
Views: 3101

Re: QPR

I thought I had posted something about QPR, but I have lousy typing and computer skills (I am very old). The best QPR will usually have a very low "P". The best value I ever had in wine (I didn't actually pay for it) came in a goatskin in Spain in 1955. I worked out the approximate cost fo...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 27th, 2021, 6:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Otto Forsberg and Brian Grafstrom if they see this: I request that you read my most recent post to Jeff Leve. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
March 27th, 2021, 6:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To jeff Leve: I respectfully suggest that you look at my most recent post on this subject, giving the logic behind my "system". Frankly, I think much of it could have been surmised without real difficulty. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
March 27th, 2021, 6:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind
Replies: 160
Views: 8082

Re: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind

I don't drink a lot of Pinot Noir nowadays but I used to. The Oregon PNs can be excellent but I usually get the Sta. Rita Hills ones now : good values can be had. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
March 27th, 2021, 12:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
Replies: 16045
Views: 837442

Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?

2016 Grand-Puy-Lacoste (1 case). RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
March 26th, 2021, 4:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Otto Forsberg: I apologise for mentally questioning others' maths skills. I did not say they were poor. The "problem" seems to be with the logic for the "system". I wanted to find which category (if any) I should consider appropriate for a left bank red Bordeaux and so I neede...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 26th, 2021, 3:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

I know I am making far too many posts, but I have a lot of time on my hands, as the estimated time of recovery from a very small fracture of no. 2 of my cervical verterbrae is 2 to 4 weeks. Here are some quotes from posters re "sensible pricing of left bank red Bordeaux" : per Otto Forsber...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 25th, 2021, 11:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

In his most recent post to me Jeff Leve wrote (among other things) "And none of your facts take into consideration what the wine is. If that works for you, great." The first part of my "system" is designed to evaluate what the estimated top score for a rounded average of the (lon...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 25th, 2021, 1:03 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To all: i am nearly 87, back in a medical center with a slightly broken neck, and not in the greatest of moods, so I would much appreciate getting nothing but reasonably polite posts. I feel capable of handling the others (however much I wonder about their simple maths skills) but would appreciate a...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 25th, 2021, 10:34 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

Further to Jeff Leve: I used to respect you (I consider you a little too rude now, frankly) as you are very informative, even though thinking your scores rather high. Past posts from Brian Grafstrom and Otto Forsberg have sometimes been very far from polite, in my opinion. Frankly I care about your ...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 25th, 2021, 9:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Jeff Leve: It seems that smart people can make posts that I am slightly too polite to call idiotic. In my previous post I said "Only my score matters in choosing whether or not to buy a wine." The classification is basically to help me evaluate my collection, though it might be of some ...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 25th, 2021, 7:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Chris F.: Again many thanks for helping me to get on BWE. I agree with much of your post, and consider my score for wines much more important than the classification. To help me to evaluate our "collection" I like to find out the category into which I put our various Bordeaux (the bulk ...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 24th, 2021, 10:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Extremely expensive wines
Replies: 151
Views: 8827

Re: Extremely expensive wines

I suppose I am a bit of a cheapskate, as though I could afford occasionally to buy a "trophy wine" for home consumption, I refuse to do so. We have plenty of what I consider high quality wines but none cost as much as $100 (before shipping and taxes). I have occasionally tried a slightly m...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 24th, 2021, 10:05 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

Generally nobody minds constructive criricism, or different viewpoints if put halfway politely. I would not call such phrases as "crazy rambling" polite, especially if the poster seems to have made little effort to understand what to me is ultimately a very simple system. I do not consider...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 24th, 2021, 4:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Otto Forsberg: posts like yours are the reason I now spend more time on Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts than here. The people there are very polite and seem able to reason well. The reasons for the range for each growth category were given in my posts under "modern classification of left bank red ...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 24th, 2021, 3:24 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To Chris F. : I am sorry but I still do not have access to my source material. I can give you one example from memory which for a while did not make the grade and then later did. THe 2015 Malartic Lagraviere Rouge first got a 94.5 from me but I thought it was likely to improve. THe next time I tried...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 24th, 2021, 8:34 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

To everyone: I apologise for not giving or referring to much earlier an explanation of "my system", which can be found under my postings about "Modern classification of left bank red Bordeaux". Briefly, the average score for the top 2 chateaux in an area (e.g. Latour and Lafite i...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 24th, 2021, 12:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What does your Spouse or Significant Other drink with you?
Replies: 99
Views: 4578

Re: What does your Spouse or Significant Other drink with you?

Many whites and the occasional very good (and fairly expensive} red. She quite likes some good Beaujolais and once in a long while might sip a little Sherry. I like La Ina and Tio Pepe, and wonder who drinks Sherry in the U.S. nowadays. RTPL
by RTP Latham Richard
March 21st, 2021, 11:20 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

In the following W.A.V.R. = Wine Advocate Vintage Rating. For St. Estephe/Pauillac/St. Juien the average W.A.V.R. is a rounded 93, in Margaux it is a rounded 91, and in Pessac Leognan it is a rounded 92. 193/2= 96.5, and 96.5 -2.5 =94.0, 191/2 = 95.5, and 95.5 - 2.5 =93.0, & 192/2 = 96 and 96 -2...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 20th, 2021, 5:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux
Replies: 94
Views: 5861

Re: Re sensible pricing of left bank red bordeaux

Some of the results of my 2004-16 (excluding 2013) rating were surprising. I do not yet have access to my source material, but if I remember rightly I think Pape Clement came in equal fifth. I assumed that Latour and Lafite in Pauillac etc., Chateau Margaux and Palmer in Margaux, and Haut Brion And ...
by RTP Latham Richard
March 20th, 2021, 8:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What bottle of wine did you open today?
Replies: 12912
Views: 531916

Re: What bottle of wine did you open today?

2010 Haut Bergey (slightly earlier than today). At 90.5 from me it was ranked equal lowest of the left bank red bordeaux we have, and the only one ranked as low as "fifth growth" for its great year. I now give it at least a 91, "promoting it" to my "fourth growth" stand...

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