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by John Morris
December 6th, 2019, 6:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1110

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Thanks, Tim! That’s terrifically informative.
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 9:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Balanced, non fruit bomb cabernets?
Replies: 24
Views: 969

Re: Balanced, non fruit bomb cabernets?

Jason T wrote:
December 5th, 2019, 3:35 pm
I’d say Dunn is “balanced” but it’s a bit of a tannic beast until maturity.
You think?
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 3:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2 x 2008 Nebbiolo’s with Shocking Results
Replies: 12
Views: 767

Re: 2 x 2008 Nebbiolo’s with Shocking Results

Jim Clendenen is making some very impressive nebbiolos under his Clendenden Family label. Would love to try a Wind Gap!
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 2:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Balanced, non fruit bomb cabernets?
Replies: 24
Views: 969

Re: Balanced, non fruit bomb cabernets?

I would add Mt. Veeder.

If you scroll this thread from a couple of months ago, Napa Cab under $100, you'll find recommendations with a description of their styles.
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 9:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vinous Acquires Cellar Watch from Liv-ex
Replies: 3
Views: 362

Re: Vinous Acquires Cellar Watch from Liv-ex

I'm still trying to figure out the Vinous business model, since it's hard to see how subscriptions can support this much overhead (writers, IT structure). I wonder what the mix is of trade versus consumer subscribers? I guess ITB subscribers can cite the reviews, so they can probably be enticed to p...
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 9:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo and Barbaresco World, NYC, Feb. 2020 - are you going?
Replies: 12
Views: 655

Re: Barolo and Barbaresco World, NYC, Feb. 2020 - are you going?

what levels of wines are poured / do the wine makers visit these types of events? It's my understanding that new release wines will be the dominant focus (2016 Barolo and Barbaresco, a very good vintage), but, as can happen, other bottles sometimes find their way in - often behind the front, i.e. o...
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 7:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Paulee AMEX pre-sale out
Replies: 34
Views: 1392

Re: Paulee AMEX pre-sale out

Then someone isn't in tune with the market. It might be you, or it might be the winning bidders. Yes, of course that's true. Widgets are worth what someone is willing to pay for them, right? My question was more about whether there's an expectation that you bid on and win something if you're attend...
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 6:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1110

Re: Wine from Normandy?

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by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 6:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

Greg dal Piaz is quite positive about the '15s, and he generally doesn't go for super ripe wines:
https://www.simplybetterwines.com/2015-barolo.html
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 6:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

Greg K wrote:
December 5th, 2019, 12:04 am
I’m pretty sure the 15 Barolos are out already.
Of course, you're right. That will teach me to post after midnight. I was thinking '16s.
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 6:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo Sediment
Replies: 113
Views: 4694

Re: Barolo Sediment

I find that true for high-Pradikat German rieslings and other sweet wines as well.
by John Morris
December 5th, 2019, 6:36 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Paulee AMEX pre-sale out
Replies: 34
Views: 1392

Re: Paulee AMEX pre-sale out

4. The Zachys auction. Very interested in attending, but is there an expectation that you buy wine? What if you just get outbid on everything you are interested in? Is it difficult to reserve a spot? How does that work? Then someone isn't in tune with the market. It might be you, or it might be the...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 9:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

Do people have recommendations on vintages in general? I noticed some people pointed towards '12 and '14 which were generally considered cooler, late harvest vintages producing "lighter" wines. Nobody mentioned '11 so I'm guessing best to avoid god-awful hot vintages. Safe to pick in the crus menti...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 6:47 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: missing the notes
Replies: 2
Views: 352

Re: TN: missing the notes

Thanks for the notes. It's nice to see someone else who finds a lot of disappointments. [cheers.gif] I was interested in this one, in particular: Produttori di Barbaresco, Barbaresco, 2006 Lot 10.155 Black cherry, menthol nose. Deep and dark on the palate, with roasted dandelion root, gentian, choke...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 6:37 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

There is a specific nebbiolo grape (sub-variety?) which is meant to give more floral wines. I can't remember the exact grape name but recall Ian d'Agata talking about it being mostly removed from the vineyards, but historically being more prevalent - IIRC the grape was Nebbiolo Rosé and some produc...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 3:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1110

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Whisky is one grain distillate. But vodka can also be made from grains, as can Chinese baijiu (sorghum, rice, wheat), so not all liquors derived from grain are whisky.
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 3:41 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo Sediment
Replies: 113
Views: 4694

Re: Barolo Sediment

I've had dense young wines produce a crust of sediment on the sides of the bottle after a few weeks in the fridge. Because I host tastings regularly, I end up with leftovers and sometimes they get buried in the fridge and I come on them long after the tasting. To the detriment of the wine? This wou...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 2:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1110

Re: Wine from Normandy?

As I have understood it, brandy is a distillate from a fruit and liquor is a distillate from a grain. Actually, brandy is a type of liquor. Liquor encompasses brandy (from fruits, including grapes) and whiskies and vodkas (from grains or vegetables). Definitions of "liquor": a usually distilled rat...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 12:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1110

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Odd - I don't know who says that brandy is limited to distilled wine. It can be made from either wine or fermented fruits, such as apples. Poir Williams is also a brandy. Eau de vie is a subcategory of brandy. To my knowledge, "brandy" is always defined as distilled wine. And wine is made from grap...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 10:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo and Barbaresco World, NYC, Feb. 2020 - are you going?
Replies: 12
Views: 655

Re: Barolo and Barbaresco World, NYC, Feb. 2020 - are you going?

Let us just say that the screening process is, well, not terribly rigorous.
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 9:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 658
Views: 33853

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

We went through this all many pages back. Yes, if everyone insists on maintaining their current profit margins (in percentage terms) , the retail price would double. But that is a big If and very unlikely. If sales fell by more than 50% after prices double, the middlemen would end up making less mon...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 8:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 658
Views: 33853

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

I know the Brits are huge Champagne lovers, so I was curious to look up the export markets for it and see if the US even matters to the French. It does. The US is the number one export market by value , at about 21% of exports (€586 million of €2.8 billion). The US skews toward higher-end Champagne,...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 8:36 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 658
Views: 33853

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

In the case where Champagne gets hit with a 100% tariff, I won't buy a single bottle, and I suspect others will be the same. That'd hit those businesses pretty hard. Less drastically, the existing 25% tariff is still going to reduce consumer demand drastically. It won't mean that the retail price d...
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 8:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1110

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Jonathan Loesberg wrote:
December 4th, 2019, 6:58 am
John Morris wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 7:40 pm
. . . Uh ... Armagnac is from Gascony, not Normandy. Other end of the country. . . .
My mistake about Armagnac, though I wouldn't say that Gascony is the other side of the country from France. It is substantially farther south.
I said the other end of the country, not the other side.
by John Morris
December 4th, 2019, 8:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1110

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Think Calvados or Armagnac for Normandy. These are more like cognac than like wine and a good Armagnsc will be nearer $100. You should be able to find Calvados for $40-50. If you want wine, given what you and she like, I'd look for a Bordeaux. Uh ... Armagnac is from Gascony, not Normandy. Other en...
by John Morris
December 3rd, 2019, 8:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo Sediment
Replies: 113
Views: 4694

Re: Barolo Sediment

Theoretically, cooling a liquid can cause any dissolved substances to precipitate out of solution if they are present in near-saturation concentrations. In practice, the only things I’ve seen precipitate out are tatrate crystals. But I’ve never put an old red wine in the fridge long enough to get i...
by John Morris
December 3rd, 2019, 7:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 658
Views: 33853

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

Tariffs cannot be imposed on specific producers. They are imposed on product categories. That’s the trade structure the entire world follows. Even though the tariff is specifically related to Airbus? I guess I really just don't get it... I appreciate your expertise and knowledge David! A tariff on ...
by John Morris
December 3rd, 2019, 7:40 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1110

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Think Calvados or Armagnac for Normandy. These are more like cognac than like wine and a good Armagnsc will be nearer $100. You should be able to find Calvados for $40-50. If you want wine, given what you and she like, I'd look for a Bordeaux. Uh ... Armagnac is from Gascony, not Normandy. Other en...
by John Morris
December 3rd, 2019, 2:47 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

Paolo Scavino Bricco Ambroggio. I had the 2004 at the winery in 2017 and it was shockingly floral. Perhaps the most floral barolo I have ever had. I came home and bought a case of the 2010. A bit less floral but still delicious. It is apparently a very small cold microclimate that brings out the fl...
by John Morris
December 3rd, 2019, 2:33 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine from Normandy?
Replies: 53
Views: 1110

Re: Wine from Normandy?

Nathan - It's probably too far north for quality red wine. Red grapes ripen later than whites, which is a problem the further north you go. The most northerly quality red areas in France, the Loire Valley and Burgundy, are quite a bit further south than Normandy. Some good reds are produced at the s...
by John Morris
December 3rd, 2019, 12:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

I think D'Agata said that one of Giacosa's vineyard may have had a lot of rose, but that wasn't certain.
by John Morris
December 3rd, 2019, 12:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo Sediment
Replies: 113
Views: 4694

Re: Barolo Sediment

I wouldn't put it at refrigerator temperature. That tends to precipitate out solids. Even young reds will often throw some crust after an extended stay in the fridge. With an old Barolo, I think 38F would be shock treatment.
by John Morris
December 3rd, 2019, 9:37 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: so who still gets wine spectator? and why?
Replies: 47
Views: 2275

Re: so who still gets wine spectator? and why?

Markus S wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 9:30 am
Michael Martin wrote:
December 1st, 2019, 5:41 pm
Paul Miller wrote:
December 1st, 2019, 5:21 pm
How are you getting it for free?
Miles
Miles are not really "free", as there is a cost and value to them, usually between 1-2 cents per mile.
Hence Shanken can count these as paid subscriptions, I bet!
by John Morris
December 3rd, 2019, 6:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 658
Views: 33853

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

There's more detail of what's covered in the other thread.
by John Morris
December 2nd, 2019, 9:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

Robert Pavlovich wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 6:05 pm
I’d second La Morra, and Verdugo in general, though Verduno pretty much equates to Burlotto.
I think that's limiting. Frat. Alessandria is making excellent wines in Verduno, including from Monvigliero. I have less experience with Castello di Verduno, but I gather the quality there is also high.
by John Morris
December 2nd, 2019, 1:33 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Layout my wine cellar
Replies: 41
Views: 1866

Re: Layout my wine cellar

I use double deep racking because we store a lot of Ayoub bottles which are huge and champagne. I would do that anyway simply because your tastes may change of you might buy something like Ayoub which come in large sized bottles. The world is so full of wine. I would just rule out oversized bottles...
by John Morris
December 2nd, 2019, 8:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: so who still gets wine spectator? and why?
Replies: 47
Views: 2275

Re: so who still gets wine spectator? and why?

I ended my subscription in the late 1990s, lol. I know this will shock Corey and Todd to hear me say this, but I found it utterly pretentious, and of course, concluded The Suckles was a clown. And since Bordeaux was my region of preference, that was a fail. Pardon if this sounds jerkish, but I find...
by John Morris
December 2nd, 2019, 8:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2017 Kruger-Rumpf Im Pitterberg Riesling Kabinett (Germany, Nahe)
Replies: 6
Views: 343

Re: TN: 2017 Kruger-Rumpf Im Pitterberg Riesling Kabinett (Germany, Nahe)

Thanks for the map, Charlie. So the plot is not far from the winery, due west, more or less, behind the buildings? As I recall from a visit in 2004, the winery is on the main north-south street parallel to the railroad tracks, in the center of the village. Am I recalling that correctly?
by John Morris
December 2nd, 2019, 7:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

There is a school of thought that the two major soil types of Barolo lead to a general split along the lines of “lighter floral” (tortonian soil, northwest side of Barolo region) and “denser powerful” (serravalian soil, southeast side of Barolo region). I don’t know if there is widespread agreement...
by John Morris
December 2nd, 2019, 7:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

This is my own experience too. By "floral" I usually think of bright red, juicy/tart, fruit, which often comes with a rose petal aspect (along with a cherry, cranberry and/or pomegranate fruits). Without needing to age the wine, I typically find this in the better "basic" Barolos of good producers ...
by John Morris
December 2nd, 2019, 7:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

There is a specific nebbiolo grape (sub-variety?) which is meant to give more floral wines. I can't remember the exact grape name but recall Ian d'Agata talking about it being mostly removed from the vineyards, but historically being more prevalent - IIRC the grape was Nebbiolo Rosé and some produc...
by John Morris
December 2nd, 2019, 7:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 1839

Re: Floral barolo recs

Some thoughts from someone who more or less the same experience as you (ie I don't drink it as often as other types of wine, but only occasionally): .... - what is "floral" for one person, isn't necessarily "floral" for another person; - to me, the really typical "floral" barolo is monvigliero from...
by John Morris
December 1st, 2019, 8:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: so who still gets wine spectator? and why?
Replies: 47
Views: 2275

Re: so who still gets wine spectator? and why?

anyone know why we get it for free? Because they make their money from advertising, and they need to guarantee a certain level of distribution to justify their ad rates. Give-aways are the least valuable category of "subscribers," but they still count for something. People who requested the publica...
by John Morris
December 1st, 2019, 6:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2000 Vieux Chateau Certan, Pomerol
Replies: 10
Views: 708

Re: TN: 2000 Vieux Chateau Certan, Pomerol

Sounds great. I have a couple of bottles of the '98 stashed away. Have you tried that in recent years? Not showing too much tertiary characteristics just yet, but the palate was beautifully integrated . . . . Sigh. Sounds like too many of the ~20-year-old wines in my cellar. Will we live to see tert...
by John Morris
December 1st, 2019, 3:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best way to organize offsite storage?
Replies: 15
Views: 527

Re: Best way to organize offsite storage?

... I absolutely hate case storage. You’ll inevitably want something that is in a box in the bottom back corner and then you have to move everything. ... When I had 3x3x3 cardboard boxes it sucked horribly when something was at the back, on the bottom. That perpetual re-arranging shuffle was just a...
by John Morris
December 1st, 2019, 12:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best way to organize offsite storage?
Replies: 15
Views: 527

Re: Best way to organize offsite storage?

I keep everything in boxes and keep an inventory. I don't care what the storage looks like, and boxes are more efficient from the standpoint of space utilization. Plus, the bottles don't collect dust.
by John Morris
December 1st, 2019, 11:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: No longer can afford Giuseppi Rinaldi- who is the ballpark?
Replies: 41
Views: 3084

Re: No longer can afford Giuseppi Rinaldi- who is the ballpark?

Glad to hear that the recommendation worked out.
by John Morris
November 30th, 2019, 8:34 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wines to Buy In Germany
Replies: 13
Views: 878

Re: Wines to Buy In Germany

It may be more trouble than it's worth, particularly if you don't have a specific idea of what you want. 1. The differential may not be that great. Out of curiosity, I checked some expensive rieslings. From Wine Searcher, I see that an Egon Muller wine that retails for $350 a bottle here goes for $2...
by John Morris
November 30th, 2019, 6:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: No longer can afford Giuseppi Rinaldi- who is the ballpark?
Replies: 41
Views: 3084

Re: No longer can afford Giuseppi Rinaldi- who is the ballpark?

That list includes just about every style in the region! Chiara Boschi— her winery is E Pira—uses barriques so is nothing like G Rinaldi. This isn’t entirely true anymore. Her brother is having more and more influence and they absolutely have a score of Botte in the cellar(unless she got a rid of t...
by John Morris
November 30th, 2019, 5:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: No longer can afford Giuseppi Rinaldi- who is the ballpark?
Replies: 41
Views: 3084

Re: No longer can afford Giuseppi Rinaldi- who is the ballpark?

Did someone mentioned that it had to be the same style ? Chiara Boschis for me is within the top 10 producer .same applies for vajra/baudana . If the OP is looking for a substitute for Giuseppe Rinaldi it only makes sense to suggest producers making wine in a similar style That was my assumption, t...

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