This sounds like a debate that should be settled the scientific /fun way: a horizontal tasting, obviously post-vax. We could call it “Welcome (Back) Bastards”.
I’ve had PYCM and Leflaive, both of which are excellent, though stylistically different.
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- January 23rd, 2021, 4:26 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: BBM: Bienvenue Batard Montrachet.
- Replies: 50
- Views: 2080
- January 23rd, 2021, 4:23 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Does anyone else prefer Champagne to not be overly yeasty?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 1787
Re: Does anyone else prefer Champagne to not be overly yeasty?
The closest good wine store to me is Total Wines. I live in New York so there are a lot of good wine shops in the boroughs, but I live in the suburbs and the standard selection in my vicinity is very subpar (just Moet, Cliquot, and Dom). I use Wine.com and for my birthday, I have an order of Lauren...
- January 19th, 2021, 1:31 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: 1 night, 2 people, 7 bottles of 2014 white burgundy.
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1861
Re: 1 night, 2 people, 7 bottles of 2014 white burgundy.
Condolences. Out of curiosity, were any of these under diam?
- January 18th, 2021, 7:53 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Your Birth Year Buying Philosophy
- Replies: 100
- Views: 3868
Re: Your Birth Year Buying Philosophy
In general I’ve focused on fewer but better, age-worthy wines for my son (2018), including a disproportionate amount in magnum format since I’d like him to be able to enjoy these throughout his life rather than just in early adulthood. The exception to this is some Yquem where half bottles are just ...
- January 16th, 2021, 5:35 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Best regions in 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1509
Re: Best regions in 2021
William’s recent 2019 Burgundy vintage report was a good read and is encouraging, especially for reds. And also discouraging from the budgetary perspective.
- January 11th, 2021, 5:02 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: How about a slightly harder wine pairing: Kalbi beef
- Replies: 51
- Views: 3834
Re: How about a slightly harder wine pairing: Kalbi beef
When we have eaten there, we have enjoyed both northern Rhône and also Beaujolais reds. They have a really great wine program and somms, and these regions are well-represented on their list: https://assets.ctfassets.net/7m90b3o5uk7x/1VCcrNs7v6C0CcLFg8wJRI/3a1c4dc930db00dffd22adb7f4f96bb9/COTE_WineMe...
- December 31st, 2020, 1:56 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: New Year’s wine resolution
- Replies: 51
- Views: 2057
Re: New Year’s wine resolution
I say this every time this question comes up and I think it is worth repeating. The most enjoyable part of wine for me is opening bottles for other people so I will keep buying. one of the most enjoyable memories for me this year was having my eyes opened to how amazing German Riesling can be, by y...
- December 31st, 2020, 1:50 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: What are you opening for NYE 2021?
- Replies: 109
- Views: 3690
Re: What are you opening for NYE 2020?
1995 Clos du Mesnil.
Happy New Year everyone.
Happy New Year everyone.
- December 28th, 2020, 2:33 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: how do you pick the bottle you are opening?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 895
Re: how do you pick the bottle you are opening?
my wife picks the genre (bubbles/still, white/red) and then I pick based on food if we are eating, or the occasion. We have "everyday drinkers", "check-in" wines, and wines for special occasions, and since we live in an apartment, we have a limited amount on site, which helps nar...
- December 21st, 2020, 5:54 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: undervalued but not for long? (edited)
- Replies: 133
- Views: 8395
Re: undervalued but not for long? (edited)
back to the OP question, my guess is German Riesling and grower Champagne. The former because they offer such great QPR now (have had some very impressive $20 bottles, which I can't say about many other regions), Germany is a clear (near-term) beneficiary of global warming, and the consultants are n...
- December 3rd, 2020, 5:56 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
- Replies: 15378
- Views: 788114
Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
I was unaware that out-of-body/religious experiences were available for purchase. Whenever you drift back to Earth after, please do share notes...
- December 3rd, 2020, 5:51 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Which Champagne are you drinking?
- Replies: 1744
- Views: 119122
Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?
First of three, sourced a mag for deep cellar William, How was it? I have the 2012s and 2013s that I’m saving for a while, and I’m sitting on some 2008’s. A 2008 I opened recently seemed to be in an early drinking window, and was fantastic. I drank all the remaining bottles of 2009’s at a restauran...
- November 26th, 2020, 8:24 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: WOTYs 2020 Edition -- and your Discovery of the Year
- Replies: 181
- Views: 14325
Re: WOTYs 2020 Edition -- and your Discovery of the Year
1971 Romanee-Conti from magnum at La Paulee and 1988 Krug Clos du Mesnil in a friend's backyard by the pool.
- November 22nd, 2020, 5:30 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: A Few Recent Tastes XXXIII
- Replies: 3
- Views: 686
Re: A Few Recent Tastes XXXIII
as always Marc, impressive breadth and detail. Thanks for these.
- November 8th, 2020, 11:36 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Wine for election night? (Mod- next political post gets a 24hour suspension)
- Replies: 270
- Views: 11364
Re: Wine for election night? (Mod- next political post gets a 24hour suspension)
sabered an '08 Peters Chetillons at home... in such a great place and just keeps getting better. and then we went to Air's Champagne Parlor (Air's and sister restaurant Niche Niche are highly recommended for anyone in or going to NYC) and had a magnum of '05 Ledru Millesieme, which was powerful and ...
- October 28th, 2020, 5:49 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Best $150-200 Champagne?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 1583
Re: Best $150-200 Champagne?
Pierre Peters Chetillons and Selosse Initial are my top picks too. for Chetillons, try to find the 2012, which is drinking wonderfully right now. The 2013 will be great in time but is extremely tight at the moment.
- September 24th, 2020, 5:02 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
- Replies: 15378
- Views: 788114
Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
I'm curious, is there any particular reason why this one vs. other PYCM wines of the same vintage? (I haven't had this one yet)
- September 15th, 2020, 8:52 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: 1997 Anniversary Wines - Recommendations?
- Replies: 68
- Views: 2861
Re: Auctions
if you want to splurge, the 97 Salon is really lovely. They recently released some of the late-disgorged version.
- September 9th, 2020, 1:12 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Ultramarine Email
- Replies: 170
- Views: 11824
- September 9th, 2020, 11:33 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Wine Investing Platforms
- Replies: 93
- Views: 4200
Re: Wine Investing Platforms
WB should sponsor a new crypto called WineCoin. People who just want to speculate on something called wine can throw their money that way. if it ends up being worth something, the board can sell some and have a Champagne party. If it doesn't, who cares, but at least it will have diverted "inves...
- September 5th, 2020, 2:42 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Top Cellar Holdings by Producer and Some Thoughts on how/why that's Changed
- Replies: 101
- Views: 7154
Re: Top Cellar Holdings by Producer and Some Thoughts on how/why that's Changed
The biggest change to our cellar has been a steady shift towards Champagne, which is now 34% of the total, nearly in line with Burgundy, which has always been a major focus. This has come at the expense primarily of the New World, where we still have a few producers that we like and consistently buy...
- August 30th, 2020, 7:28 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Birth Year Wine 1980
- Replies: 50
- Views: 1854
Re: Birth Year Wine 1980
Here is a fun idea on the birth year theme: go with the Chinese zodiac years. In your case, you are Year of the Monkey. So that means 1968, 1980 (suggestions above), 1992 (white burg stands out in my mind), 2004 (champagne?), 2016 (Côte de Nuits reds). This concept can make for a fun dinner with win...
- August 29th, 2020, 12:25 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: Champagne Côte des Blancs Study
- Replies: 13
- Views: 707
Re: TN: Champagne Côte des Blancs Study
Evan, That's an epic tasting, and I really enjoyed the notes and photos. You've only been posting here about a month, so welcome and thank you! The only wines posted which I currently own are the Pierre Peters Chetillons. I opened an '08 last week that was stunning, although just now entering a goo...
- August 29th, 2020, 10:43 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: Champagne Côte des Blancs Study
- Replies: 13
- Views: 707
TN: Champagne Côte des Blancs Study
Last weekend fellow wine nerd friends invited us to stay with them. While the kids ran around, we enjoyed a lineup of almost exclusively Côte des Blancs Champagnes over the course of several days (full disclosure: my favorite Champagnes are low-dosage BdB). Krug Clos du Mesnil 1988 : Golden color. B...
- August 25th, 2020, 12:24 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Favorite QPR wine under $25
- Replies: 70
- Views: 4857
Re: Favorite QPR wine under $25
Keller Limestone Riesling
- August 18th, 2020, 5:43 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Daily drinkers: clean winemaking style but savory flavors
- Replies: 56
- Views: 2327
Re: Daily drinkers: clean winemaking style but savory flavors
trousseau from gahier, tournelle, tissot, or ratte should be a consideration +1 for Jura, which is still pretty under the radar but definitely fits the description you gave (the reds that is - the whites made in the oxidative style are an acquired taste). In addition to these, Domaine du Pelican is...
- August 18th, 2020, 1:34 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Help with Champagne cellaring and new ones to discover (pretty long post...)
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2265
Re: Help with Champagne cellaring and new ones to discover (pretty long post...)
So I was finally able to track down who imports Pierre Péters here. They are getting a new delivery in mid-November. I could already place an order. Here is what they still have available: Cuvée de Réserve: 87$/bottle, order in qty of 6, 36 bottles available Grande Réserve: 94$/bottle, order in qty...
- August 11th, 2020, 6:33 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Help with Champagne cellaring and new ones to discover (pretty long post...)
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2265
Re: Help with Champagne cellaring and new ones to discover (pretty long post...)
Thats a pretty good list you have there. Other growers worth exploring that are less oxidative in style: - Pierre Peters: high quality BdB, with the Cuvee de Reserve being good QPR, but it really starts to get interesting with the Reserve Oubliee (solera-style, more oxidative notes) and of course Le...
- August 8th, 2020, 10:38 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Which DRC to try
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3924
Re: Which DRC to try
Rsv is also an improving vineyard (bc drc hasn’t owned it that long). not entirely true. They’ve had control of vineyard management since, I believe, the 60s. They recently separated out two parcels of RSV that weren’t up to snuff and that has elevated the remaining vines, though there is now a bit...
- August 5th, 2020, 5:46 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Suggestions for purchase/delivery in Manhattan
- Replies: 20
- Views: 1061
Re: Suggestions for purchase/delivery in Manhattan
+1
and a good selection of grower Champagne
- August 5th, 2020, 5:44 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: How do SubZero units compare to Eurocave?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 874
Re: How do SubZero units compare to Eurocave?
I have Sub Zeroes and they work wonderfully for both temperature and humidity. They are more expensive than EuroCave, however.
- August 1st, 2020, 10:28 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Selosse 2008?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 656
Re: Selosse 2008?
excellent, thank you all. can't wait to try both...
- July 31st, 2020, 5:46 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Selosse 2008?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 656
Selosse 2008?
Since 2007 is the current release of the Selosse Millesime, I was a little surprised to see a pre-arrival offer for the 2009 today. Does anyone know what happened / is happening with the 2008? (lost in the Grand Cru BdB to Premier Cru Blend transition for the Millesime? "Pulling a Dom" and...
- July 24th, 2020, 2:05 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
- Replies: 15378
- Views: 788114
Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
PSA since I know it is a board favorite, Tribeca Wine Merchants has a deal on '06 Comtes right now, $114/btl on 6+ and (more importantly) $299/mag on 3+...
- July 20th, 2020, 8:23 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: The World's Finest Pinot is from . . .
- Replies: 67
- Views: 5282
Re: The World's Finest Pinot is from . . .
... Vosne-Romanee +1 From a pure biological perspective, there is something to be said about PN being from Burgundy to begin with, and therefore having evolved over so many thousands of years to be ideally suited for its climate, to say nothing of the 1,000+ years of human cultivation of the grape ...
- July 20th, 2020, 8:09 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Red Corton Wines
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3864
Re: Red Corton Wines
Hi Dan, It sounds like you are looking to explore why certain wines are grand cru and expand your knowledge of what burgundy has to offer. This is a fun (and expensive) rabbit hole to go down, but I would recommend against Corton rouge as the best example of what GC burg can be, especially as young ...
- July 16th, 2020, 8:37 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: What is the deepest vertical in your cellar?
- Replies: 164
- Views: 5329
Re: What is the deepest vertical in your cellar?
Pierre Peters Chetillons - 14 vintages back to 1995, but there are a few missing in the middle so not contiguous.
- July 12th, 2020, 8:01 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Book on Champagne
- Replies: 113
- Views: 10152
Re: Book on Champagne
I got one criticism, though. The maps. While the antique maps provided separate from the book are a cool historical add to the package, what is lacking here is a more comprehensive, modern presentation of the departments. With all the lieu-dit complexity in the area, and the village overlays to the...
- July 11th, 2020, 7:27 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Approaching age 50 - is it too late for Burgundy?
- Replies: 96
- Views: 4097
Re: Approaching age 50 - is it too late for Burgundy?
I will echo the "not too late" message, and add a few more thoughts. Many of the posters here have brought up some great QPR wines from Burgundy's less famous villages, but if you are unsure about your love for the region, I think you should also consider first exploring some village-level...
- July 8th, 2020, 6:35 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: What Burgundy villages do you have the most wine from?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 2266
Re: What Burgundy villages do you have the most wine from?
Reds:
1. Vosne+Flagey
2. MSD
3. GC
4. Volnay
5. CM
Whites:
1. PM
2. Meursault
3. Chablis
4. Saint Aubin
5. Aloxe-Corton
1. Vosne+Flagey
2. MSD
3. GC
4. Volnay
5. CM
Whites:
1. PM
2. Meursault
3. Chablis
4. Saint Aubin
5. Aloxe-Corton
- July 7th, 2020, 5:41 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Ultramarine Email
- Replies: 170
- Views: 11824
Re: Ultramarine Email
the dosage trial event is a great time - fun and educational (confirmed what I suspected, that my taste preference is strongly for lower dosage). a few tidbits that Michael Cruse said that people may find interesting: - Ultramarine is still not profitable, 12 years in... - Ultramarine wait list is c...
- July 7th, 2020, 4:55 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Krug : 2004 vs 164
- Replies: 6
- Views: 870
Re: Krug : 2004 vs 164
Completely agreed. 164eme is the best, at least in the edition numbering era. Also check out the 168eme, which is the current edition in 750s (2012 base), which is very good but for me not quite as incredible as 164.J. Ashourian wrote: ↑July 7th, 2020, 4:46 am 164 is incredible. Magnums are still available in the market.
- July 7th, 2020, 4:07 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Best 2018 Vintage for LONG term cellaring?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 2640
Re: Best 2018 Vintage for LONG term cellaring?
Lots to think through, and lots in here I hadn’t considered; my tastes are burgundy- and champagne-centric so I appreciate the thoughts from a more global perspective.
- July 5th, 2020, 7:23 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Pierre Peters L'Etonnant Monsieur Victor - effect on Chetillons?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 970
Re: Pierre Peters L'Etonnant Monsieur Victor - effect on Chetillons?
Chetillons can age with the best of them. Rodolphe did a dinner conjunction with Fete du Champagne in Nov 2018 In NYC with magnums of 12 vintages back to 1970 from his cellar (so perfect storage and provenance). The wines from the ‘80s were still in great shape, and the ‘70s vintages were in better ...
- July 5th, 2020, 1:32 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Best 2018 Vintage for LONG term cellaring?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 2640
Best 2018 Vintage for LONG term cellaring?
Hi, longtime reader, first time poster. My son was born in 2018 and so I am trying to put away a variety of wines from his birth year that he will be able to drink once he becomes an adult. So I was wondering if anyone had thoughts as to what regions would be best for 25+ year cellaring of the 2018 ...