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US release is March/April? AM with big scores for this vintage. And I hear next year will be even better.

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Even putting aside the fact La Tache blowing through the relaxed pricing bands of a couple hundred dollars, I am curious: are you saying you believe you can source cases of La Tache fairly easily and it would be your wine of choice most days? Say, regularly drinking a La Tache from the past 10 year...

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Alex, I’ll second Marc Roy Gevre for Red.

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Yes, definitely keep a bottle to enjoy. I’d gladly purchase the remaining. Sent you a PM.

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I'm surprised to see no Barolo in the top 50. Despite all the price increases in Piedmont, it is still a relative bargain region. How much do you think the region's prices are going to grow further? Would you say this might be a golden era of buying before we approach the heights of Burgundy or are...

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Win for the good guys! Great work gents.

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DRC & Leroy.

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DRC Montrachet, Leflaive Montrachet, and Leroy d'Auvenay.

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S. Stevenson wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 11:20 am Buying DRC in the 80's: 1976 GE $78, 1953 RC $119, 1973 Montrachet $79 (although the retailer said as I was buying it, "I should have changed to sticker price, no?).

Ah, the good old days...

Imagine..

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Are you in the U.S.? Nope, Europe here. Prices fluctuated around these values in the past few years with a slight upward tendency (im in my mid thirties, so don't have a long history yet). I would have expected that the US prime importer has similar prices (as the Domaine doesn't want or allow too ...

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Mainly because I really don't like knowing that a number of other US collectors are getting them via the same distribution channel (except for the retailer) at a fraction of the price I would be paying. Based on the Secret list prices this year, your offering was only 15% above the best prices in t...

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Great notes and lineup! Thanks for sharing.

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RyanC wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 8:40 am
J. Cohen wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 8:38 am
Andy Sc wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:13 am FWIW, here are the prices I got

Romanee Saint Vivant $1000
Richebourg $950
La Tache $1180
Romanee Conti $3900
Montrachet $2280
Are you in the U.S.?
Or a time traveler?

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Andy Sc wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:13 am FWIW, here are the prices I got

Romanee Saint Vivant $1000
Richebourg $950
La Tache $1180
Romanee Conti $3900
Montrachet $2280

Are you in the U.S.?

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I passed on the 2017s, but in case it is helpful for reference, here are the pre-discount full retail prices I was quoted this year (and no- I am not on the private baller list), Echezeaux - 900 Grands-Echezeaux - 1,325 Richebourg - 2,250 La Tache - 2,500 Romanee St. Vivant - 2,500 Montrachet - 5,0...

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Rick Smith wrote: ↑February 23rd, 2014, 5:13 am Depends on who made them.

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Email from GRW today offering a 2017 DRC RC 3-pack OWC for $48,500. I wasn’t aware that DRC sold the RC separately in 3-packs. Thought they were sold as 1 bottle in a mixed case. Not that I’ve ever had the $$$$$ to buy one. They come in 3, 6, and 12 packs. As do all the others they offer. Thanks. N...

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David Glasser wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 11:43 am Email from GRW today offering a 2017 DRC RC 3-pack OWC for $48,500.

I wasn’t aware that DRC sold the RC separately in 3-packs. Thought they were sold as 1 bottle in a mixed case. Not that I’ve ever had the $$$$$ to buy one.

They come in 3, 6, and 12 packs. As do all the others they offer.

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WS Low for La Tache (non-auction) is 3,300, so seems a bit pricey? I have no idea in pricing either... Retailers can ask these prices because they know it’s basically impossible for even VIP clients to buy DRC at wholesale prices and there will always be a buyer eventually for DRC no matter the pri...

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Fantastic experience Robert! What a joy. Thank you for sharing.

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Sounds exquisite! Thanks for sharing!

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Love it as well!

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Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑July 4th, 2020, 7:26 am
J. Cohen wrote: ↑July 4th, 2020, 7:02 am
Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑July 4th, 2020, 7:00 am

I got some richebourg but don’t like paying > 2k for rsv.
Yeah it’s tough to come by under 2. What did you pay for Richebourg?
2300

Not a bad retail price at all!

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And is the 2016 Montrachet actually any good? Or is that not the purpose of this bottling? I’ve been told it’s very impressive. Looking forward to the AM review. Purpose of the bottling.. in 2016 none of the 7 Domaines could produce enough Montrachet on their own because of frost. So, they all came...

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Looks like vinopolis still has most of their small allocation available. I’d still like some rsv if I could find it for a better price. The RSV was very good, Richebourg and GE too. I got some richebourg but don’t like paying > 2k for rsv. Yeah it’s tough to come by under 2. What did you pay for Ri...

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Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑July 4th, 2020, 6:36 am Looks like vinopolis still has most of their small allocation available.

I’d still like some rsv if I could find it for a better price.

The RSV was very good, Richebourg and GE too.

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2016 Montrachet is the one of the rarest bottles of Chardonnay ever. I have a good friend in Hong Kong who owns a bottle. He told me just 500 total bottles sold worldwide (that’s 1/10th typical production for each of the standing Domaines, let alone all of them combined) to VIP clients with their n...

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2016 Montrachet is the one of the rarest bottles of Chardonnay ever. I have a good friend in Hong Kong who owns a bottle. He told me just 500 total bottles sold worldwide (that’s 1/10th typical production for each of the standing Domaines, let alone all of them combined) to VIP clients with their n...

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I hear ya. My note was simply a validation that there aren't many of these bottles floating around out there. I wonder if they're logged in CT with a unique Producer listed? https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=3448100 FYI, more logged here: https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=3247...

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1 bottle of the DRC Monty logged into CellarTracker. DRC did not produce their own Montrachet in 2016 due to the frost. Hence, the 7 Domaines coming together to produce a one of a kind bottle for the vintage year 2016. https://www.leflaive.fr/en/news/183/montrachet-2016-first-and-foremost-a-story-o...

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1 bottle of the DRC Monty logged into CellarTracker. DRC did not produce their own Montrachet in 2016 due to the frost. Hence, the 7 Domaines coming together to produce a one of a kind bottle for the vintage year 2016. https://www.leflaive.fr/en/news/183/montrachet-2016-first-and-foremost-a-story-o...

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Haven't seen any Montrachet offered anywhere. The harvest in Montrachet was so tiny in 2016 that DRC joined forces (and grapes) with 5 other domaines (or were there six?) incl. Comte Lafon and Dom.Leflaive ... and there is a combined Montrachet .... at around 6.000 € per bottle !!! Happy hunting ! ...

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Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 7:33 pm Decent offering from vinopolis especially for LT

What are they asking? I can't find it listed on their website.

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In the early 2000s I went to Belair, home of overpriced wines, and traded Bobby 12 bottles of Maya for a beautiful magnum of 62 La Tâche. Wine was selling for about $6000 at that time, about the value of the 12 bottles of Maya. Invited several friends to a dinner built around the bottle. I had hear...

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m. ristev wrote: ↑June 26th, 2020, 9:35 am IMG_5224.PNG

I guess if one can't buy them direct, or through a distributor the only way to play is to pay retail? Expensive hobby!

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BlaineRyanHunt wrote: ↑June 23rd, 2020, 8:39 am Got My 2017 Allocation: Richebourg, La Tache, Echezaux, and Romanee St Vivant. I've never been offered Romanee-Conti, and only have been offered La Tache for the past two vintages.

Retail? Distributor?

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Well, my first DRC allocation season has come to an end. From what I heard, allocations this year were up in most cases and I did end up getting some decent offers from my various sources. Prices were all over the board, as might be expected. Some retailers were fair and put normal markups on them ...

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Tomás Costa wrote: ↑May 25th, 2020, 3:19 pm Hollywood Jef would say it's great!

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Sean S y d n e y wrote: ↑May 25th, 2020, 2:42 pm Paging Don Cornwell, I see a ton of issues with the label.

(Seriously, well done!)

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The website is fantastic! So helpful and useful. The only thing I haven’t been able to figure out is how to “Edit” (there doesn’t seem to be a button) a bottle once its saved. For instance I just typed in the wrong price by mistake, saved it and now I can’t edit the price. I had to delete the bottl...

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The website is fantastic! So helpful and useful. The only thing I haven’t been able to figure out is how to “Edit” (there doesn’t seem to be a button) a bottle once its saved. For instance I just typed in the wrong price by mistake, saved it and now I can’t edit the price. I had to delete the bottle...

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Don, amazing work as always. How every single major auction house doesn’t have you on retainer for perpetuity is beyond belief.

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Found this allocation release for 2017 DRC from Corney & Barrow in the UK. Prices start on page 16. Pricing seems to be very cheap coming from a retail store no? Converting from Pounds to USD. A 3 pack of Romanee Conti £9,000 ($11,037) or $3,679 per bottle? La Tache £2,910 per pack of 3 ($3,568)...

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Wonderful report Dennis! Franklin brisket is to die for! Thanks for sharing your pictures and thoughts. This is making me want to fly to Texas as soon as possible. Mouth watering.

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Just read through most of this entire thread. Don, wow. Amazing work. Thank you! One of the incredible frustrations for me has been that John Kapon, Acker Merrall, Richard Brierley (ex-Christie's and Vanquish and now Bid for Wine/Forum Auctions UK), Christie's, Antonio Castanos, and Marc Lazar (Dom...

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Just read through most of this entire thread. Don, wow. Amazing work. Thank you!

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Wow. Watched Sour Grapes for the first time last night. Unbelievable. What ever happened to Kapon? Is he blacklisted from the wine community for knowingly selling and profiting off Rudy’s fakes? Ummm...still hip-hoppin’ https://www.ackerwines.com/john-kapon-bio So everyone in the wine community jus...

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Wow. Watched Sour Grapes for the first time last night. Unbelievable. What ever happened to Kapon? Is he blacklisted from the wine community for ALLEGEDLY selling and profiting off Rudy’s fakes?

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Bdklein wrote: ↑April 24th, 2020, 3:56 pm
J@redC wrote: ↑April 24th, 2020, 3:42 pm Fantastic job! Congratulations, looks beautiful. Enjoy her.
Why is it a she?? Not a him or it?

Is this AOC responding?

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Fantastic job! Congratulations, looks beautiful. Enjoy her.

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