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p. raghib

Greg K wrote: ↑
March 10th, 2019, 8:13 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑
March 10th, 2019, 4:11 pm
I’ll probably go the next time it’s in nyc
I believe it's staying in NYC for 2020.

Correct. 20th anniversary

p. raghib

anyone know these folks? Do they actually own their inventory or are they trying to broker the middle? I ask because they were defaulting to case quantities on some wine which usually means they don't own it. I did read about the founder and he is a "first class oenophile"

thanks

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Back in 2014 they had it listed for $32mm yowsa’

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So many random thoughts: $15mm doesn’t go that far in the NYC area. What is victor doing cruising $15mm pads? What is with that stove hood??

p. raghib

More here...
https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2019/ ... -lambrays/
I had not heard that Jacques had been let go. Seems odd to bring in someone from grillet.

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Wow, if that is true Boris Champy didn’t last long. I thought Boris was a wonderful guy, and was excited about the future. And Jacques leaving Clos des tart...all puzzling

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They are great people and they make great wine. It is clearly a luxury good. I’m sure I will buy some btls thus year, but after a decade or so that could be it. I’ve never understood why people pay such a premium for the mags, but they pay it so I can’t blame them for charging it. Personally, I’d ra...

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My question is how large of a cellar are we talking about? If it is under 1,000 I guess it could make sense especially if your still wines are CA and don’t need a ton of age on em. Over 1,000 means you are crushing champagne.

Obviously if it works for you then go for it.

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What is current release price?
Very nice wine and great people

p. raghib

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
February 9th, 2019, 2:42 pm
one word re this domaine: overpriced.

In France these are not expensive wines, but in the US the prices are crazy and I would not be surprised to see them go higher given his untimely passing.

p. raghib

2016. Better vintage, better tension, better balance, better energy. Less of it.
Just my 0.02
-paul

p. raghib

is there a worse label than Cayuse Bionic Frog?? The wine is great, but the label is no bueno. If I knew how to post a pic I would.

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I think all those late release Arnouxs from a few years ago were reconditioned. I didn’t like the RSV and the one b of 72 Suchots I had was good not great. Super night. I agree that the late releases seem far too young for the vintages on the btl. A friend of mine disagrees since "they could never ...

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The trend is no doubt due to the rising value of these bottles. Just a couple years ago it seems like DRC and Roumier were about half the price they are now. Ditto for shares of Amazon. They've kept the grand tasting and verticals pricing increases fairly modest, but because of that, quality had to...

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Where did you hear that SF won’t be hosting next year? What a bummer for us west coast folks if that is indeed true... pretty sure 2020 is the 25th anniversary so they were going to do it in NYC. That is what a few regular vigneron told me. I gave up the Sat dinner a long long time ago as I had a h...

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I just looked at the list of winemakers and I am extremely disappointed. I didn't attend last year but I remember tasting at the 2017 verticals: Roumier, Rousseau, d'Angerville, Lambrays, Bize, Lafarge, Faively, Bonneau du Matray all of which will not be attending this year. And this is off the top...

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I've gone to every La Paulee for about the past 15yrs. I think this year's Verticals has taken a significant step back. In the past, I always thought NYC drew a stronger field of producers than SF due to the travel challenges. This year the first thing I noticed was basically 'where have all the gra...

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No sqn??

It would be tragic to drink some of those so young.

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I think this is the first note I’ve ever seen for LP on this board. I really enjoy his wines and I think his basic bdb is a smoking value. His wines don’t come to MI but im pretty sure they go to CA including the cuvée Marie. I have visited there a few times and a couple years back we did a dosage t...

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I don't have my notes with me, but for 17s I tasted at the following domaines: Gerard Mugneret, Faiveley, Lamarche, Hudelot-Noellat, Dujac, Clos Lambrays, Duroche, Damoy, Thibault Liger-Belair, Roulot, Lafarge, Y Clerget, Genot-Boulanger, Ponsot, Mugneret-Gibourg and Cecile Tremblay. So take my opin...

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Any interest in a trade? Of wine?
Thanks

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My SQN for your btac. Probably most interested in lotB but open minded. Pm is best.

Thanks

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Also may want to merge threads...

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Flickinger and chevalier would be my top two. Both will give you great service and prices. Hdh retail pricing is very inconsistent, but they are very professional.

It is interesting how nyc’s list of great wine shops is so much longer than Chicago.

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So in 2008, Mr. DeMeyer got with the times and pledged fealty to one of the city’s financial barons. This is garbage. Where does one go to find their financial baron and pledge fealty? He got with the times?? From the article the guy was a grifter since he was old enough to drive and clearly not co...

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Thanks for the note, I have the CSJ so I was curious about it.

Paul

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I would bet that there will be no credit coming but it is still good to let them know about the consignment. If you think about it, very few people had active storage in the mid 80s and shipping with active cooling was still a long ways off. Sorry to hear about your experience. Also a bit surprised ...

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I’ve gotta give this more thought, but I’d start with drouhin Clos des mouches Blanc. Great wine young, can be profound when old. $$doesnt break the bank.

Tons in Chablis to consider

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I won’t buy2011 reds unless I taste them first, the arnoux should be good but if it is similar $$ I’d take the 08 beze. I prefer the freshness of 08s

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Auction- auction- auction. I would not even consider selling to someone based on retail pricing of more than a few months ago given what has happened to Raveneau this fall. I just did a quick peek high level at some results for off-vintages of the 80s, and looks like mid to upper hundreds per bottl...

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Hi SH@N, I actually don't reckon red Burg is great with steak, you need Bordeaux or Barolo. But if you have to go with red Burg look for a chewy Pommard or muscular Gevrey. Cheers Jeremy Jeremy, I always enjoy your posts and can't recall disagreeing with you-but I'll take the other side of the coin...

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from wine searcher: "The most recent global average price we have for Domaine Francois Raveneau Vaillons 1987 is $299 (July 2014)." Thanks, I should've been able to see this but I missed it when I searched. I think I sold a few cases of Raveneau about 4yrs ago and it took a while to move them below...

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I've never actually had a Monfortino that was ready, whereas I've had plenty of amazing Rinaldis and Giacosas. I just don't get the fuss about these wines. Emperor's new clothes? Given that I've had a ton of Conterno's wines that have been profound, I don't think it is an emperor's clothes situatio...

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With today's rather bonkers market (but I'd say is still going higher for raveneau) what do you think the 87 vaillons is worth? In the good problem category I found a 6pk in my cellar and I'm playing with the idea of selling 3.

Thanks

-paul

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Which Raveneau did you end up drinking? Didn't see a tasting note above.. Y, good catch. It was 04 Butteaux, with some oysters and cold shrimp. Brilliant wine, great cut, high acid, fresh crushed stones and citrus. Wonderful freshness and minerality, as it warmed it was almost oily. Would've gotten...

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Sarah, you may be right. The wine did seem to tighten up later in the evening. I would say massive patience is required for the 02.

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I suspect the monfortino could have used a much longer decant...probably several hours and they were all decanted just before service. Given the pace of food we probably got to it after it had been decanted for maybe 1hr

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*My opinion is based on the few dozen I got to try last year, I'll be back in November and will try more then. I should've mentioned that in the earlier post. My concern with 17 is as a consumer: 15 is great and gets a ton of hype, thus prices go way up. 16 is a tiny crop so prices stay high. 17 is ...

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.... the general view is that 17 is better than both 15 and 16, but not as good as 14. ... [scratch.gif] My order of those three vintages is: 16 -better freshness and tension than 15 15 -incredibly ripe but almost a little obvious compared to 16 17 -making up for the short crop in 16 the vines trie...

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we went with the 06 RSV

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I don't write up tasting notes often, but since I asked I the opinion on which DRC I at least "owed" the board a report. Mostly from memory: Friday: 07 Cristal on the flight fresh delicious, nice salinity, definitely some citrus notes. I much preferred it to the older Krug that we also had. I didn't...

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The wines are on restaurant list out of state. If they were all mine I would be waiting another decade+ but at “reasonable” prices at a restaurant why not?
Thanks

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which one and why?
06 DRC Richebourg
07 DRC Richebourg
05 DRC RSV
06 DRC RSV

Obviously, 05 is the "best" vintage (whether that proves out we have yet to see). I think 06 is probably the most approachable at the moment.

Any thoughts?

thanks

p. raghib

bump/merge em up'

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https://www.wineindustryadvisor.com/2018/10/01/michigans-wine-shipping-ban-ruled-unconstitutional I don't think it is going to be this easy. My concern has always been that a case would be brought, MI would lose on the basis of discrimination/interstate commerce clause as they did in the Granholm Vs...

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quantity is only a case.
thanks again

p. raghib

I've never shipped to France before, my shipments have always gone the other way. Is there any issues I'm not aware of? Can I just use FedEx??
thanks

-paul

p. raghib

I’m guessing that you would have to be flying 1st to enjoy their lounge...unfortunately we are not.

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Looove Donnhoff, but I doubt my wife and 3littles would..probably should have mentioned that part. But I love the idea

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