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by Carl I Steefel
January 4th, 2020, 3:05 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2017 Domaine Rousset Saint-Joseph - Excellent QPR
Replies: 3
Views: 691

Re: TN: 2017 Domaine Rousset Saint-Joseph - Excellent QPR

Is the 2017 a generally ripe vintage in the northern Rhone. I greatly enjoyed the 2016 Graillot St. Joseph (much more than the riper, simpler, fruitier Crozes-Hermitage of the same year)--nicely layered, soil-driven wine. But the 2017 just finished last night seemed much riper and more alcoholic--I ...
by Carl I Steefel
January 4th, 2020, 2:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's critic bingo! (am I geometrically challenged?)
Replies: 910
Views: 43490

Re: It's critic bingo! Let's start with Vinous.

Actually, if you try to write a lot of tasting notes, it's incredibly hard not to use phrases over and over again. That's why I sometimes find I prefer Coates' minimalist notes. I'm also reminded of a thread a few years ago about 6 word, or 10 word (some small number in that range) tasting notes. I...
by Carl I Steefel
January 4th, 2020, 1:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2000 Domaine du Pégau Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Réservée
Replies: 11
Views: 477

Re: TN: 2000 Domaine du Pégau Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Réservée

I had two cases of 2000 Pegau Reservee in the olden days (back when my original WineBerserker moniker still worked), and I would agree that it never measured up to the 1998 or 2001, but it was pretty dad-burned good at the time. However, most of my bottles turned south (oxidation) some years ago. Ca...
by Carl I Steefel
January 3rd, 2020, 3:31 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2004 Jadot Bonnes Mares, 2008 Roederer Cristal, ...
Replies: 5
Views: 565

Re: 2004 Jadot Bonnes Mares, 2008 Roederer Cristal, ...

The Jadot Web site reports that their holdings are all in Chambolle-Musigny. I would say I am pretty sensitive to pyrazine, to the point where I have trouble drinking (for example) a 2000 Sociando Mallet. Whatever my tolerance, however, my detection limit is much lower, and I would say this bottle s...
by Carl I Steefel
January 2nd, 2020, 2:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5124

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

I don't think it's fair to grade any producer based on years like 03, 05, 07 or 15. The vintages are hot, the wines are warm, ripe and full of alcohol. If you tell me you don't like a wine based on 2006, or 2010, that's a different story, but I see a lot of comments based on 2003 and 2007, and I re...
by Carl I Steefel
January 2nd, 2020, 10:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2004 Jadot Bonnes Mares, 2008 Roederer Cristal, ...
Replies: 5
Views: 565

2004 Jadot Bonnes Mares, 2008 Roederer Cristal, ...

Couple of quick notes on recent wines flown into and consumed in Colorado. 2004 Jadot Bonnes Mares : Discovered this deeply buried in my cellar, figured now might be a good opportunity to check on the lone bottle I had. Surprisingly rich red fruit, very well balanced, with a deep ripe fruit profile ...
by Carl I Steefel
January 2nd, 2020, 10:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then
Replies: 131
Views: 5124

Re: Traditional CdP Producers - Now and Then

I still recall the 2003 VD, which seemed at the time a noticeable departure from the more traditional VD style I had enjoyed in 2000 and 2001, with a pruney glycerol profile that seemed very different. But at the time at least I attributed this to the vintage... Most of CdP lost me in 2007, although...
by Carl I Steefel
December 23rd, 2019, 5:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2015 Edmond Vatan Sancerre Clos la Néore, stone crab claws and grilled black grouper (caught today)
Replies: 16
Views: 842

Re: TN: 2015 Edmond Vatan Sancerre Clos la Néore, stone crab claws and grilled black grouper (caught today)

Just had the 2014 Vatan Sancerre the other day, one which I tried earlier in Chavignol. This one has evolved very well, to the point where after 45 minutes in the glass it is positively explosive. I know I drank and enjoyed a 1996 Vatan in 2015 and it was still fresh, but this 2014 seems on a differ...
by Carl I Steefel
December 2nd, 2019, 12:35 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Taittinger Comtes 08 $125 - $135
Replies: 54
Views: 4180

Re: Taittinger Comtes 08 $125 - $135

I am going to visit Reims in February (first time), and have reservations for a tour and tasting at Taittinger. Anyone have any idea how their pricing for CdC at the house might compare to pricing in the US? (And, i know I would have to figure out shipping as well...) My recollection for the tastin...
by Carl I Steefel
November 27th, 2019, 10:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1999 Jadot - Vosne - Les Beaux Monts
Replies: 7
Views: 620

Re: 1999 Jadot - Vosne - Les Beaux Monts

'99 Jadot - Beaux Monts - appealing black cherry nose. Thick and very concentrated wine. Black cherry and licorice flavors on the palate. Stuffed with fruit but not especially long finish. Enjoyable, but no noticeable Vosne spice, flavors leaning more towards Morey. 91. Jadot, sadly enough said. Wh...
by Carl I Steefel
November 17th, 2019, 10:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

I would say there are two major "effects" that control premox: 1) reductive capacity in the bottle , affected by <insert your favorites here>. Clearly sulfur is certain to affect this, battonage at least is likely to affect as well. Aside from our knowledge of the winemaking process and rudimentary ...
by Carl I Steefel
November 15th, 2019, 7:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

I am pretty convinced that the same wine same case bottle to bottle variation in premox would most likely be due to cork variability. Although I suppose some bottle to bottle irregularities in the bottling line having to do with dissolved O2, SO2, or some such thing I know nothing about, could also...
by Carl I Steefel
November 14th, 2019, 10:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

Talking some more with my wine buddy here, we agreed that the difference in average incidence of Fevre versus, for example, Dauvissat is likely an indication that something in the pre-bottling wine making predisposed Fevre to oxidation. Likeliest culprits? Either sulfur or battonage, and/or both. Ot...
by Carl I Steefel
November 13th, 2019, 10:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What 2008 Champagne Are You Buying?
Replies: 101
Views: 5026

Re: What 2008 Champagne Are You Buying?

The Cristal is utterly brilliant, and while it needs a few years, it is perhaps one of the most exciting Champagnes I have ever tasted. Nothing I have tasted from the vintage comes close, so I will allocate my dollars to this. However, I suspect will also grab some Taittinger Comtes when it is rele...
by Carl I Steefel
November 12th, 2019, 4:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Opening wines before reaching restaurant
Replies: 70
Views: 2612

Re: Opening wines before reaching restaurant

There are always ways to make life more complicated - no idea why people do it. [scratch.gif] I have my arrangements with some restaurants, I bring my wine already open - and pay my corkage (or not even that in some locations). Exactly. Those are the places I will go to. Leave the places that do no...
by Carl I Steefel
November 12th, 2019, 2:54 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

The problem is "random" to the degree that the corks' abilities to make good seals at the bottle necks is "random" because a cork is a natural , irregular product. Overdrying them in a kiln will randomly create too- rigid corks as the amount of drying any given cork can take is variable. If the goa...
by Carl I Steefel
November 12th, 2019, 10:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

FWIW, I want to reiterate what a well known Puligny winemaker showed/told me in 2007. That when he kept a case of mid-90s wb, and some were premoxed.....the bad bottles had no protective so2 left in them; the good bottles, the expected amount given what was added at bottling. That was rudimentary r...
by Carl I Steefel
November 11th, 2019, 7:54 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

Clearly it's not "just the corks" or we would see far more widespread premox including more in new world wines. But the evidence does suggest they are an enabler - as someone pointed out above, sufficient vs necessary conditions. How many of these wines are aged out to 10+ years?? I would agree wit...
by Carl I Steefel
November 11th, 2019, 3:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

"If" premox is solely due to a cork issue, then why aren't red wines affected at that same rate, or even at all?? Because the tannins and other red wine constituents offer additional reduction capacity. Cork is not the ONLY issue, as we have said many times, but it is the number one control affecti...
by Carl I Steefel
November 11th, 2019, 2:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

Need to define the problem first and foremost. What is "premox"? I say it is the universe of bad bottles randomly mixed in with wines that are fine in any given group. All these other factors are for vulnerablity. But, vulnerable wines are not "premoxed" wines if they are fine. Unless one focuses o...
by Carl I Steefel
November 11th, 2019, 10:37 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Opening wines before reaching restaurant
Replies: 70
Views: 2612

Re: Opening wines before reaching restaurant

Yep, I certainly do so now...
by Carl I Steefel
November 11th, 2019, 10:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

That's why they've never figured anything out, Mel. "So many things changed"......but there were plenty of good bottles that "ignored" all those changes. So, focus on the "premox" issue: why there are bad bottles within any given group...not the vulnerabilities of all of them. The culprit will neve...
by Carl I Steefel
November 11th, 2019, 10:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What 2008 Champagne Are You Buying?
Replies: 101
Views: 5026

Re: What 2008 Champagne Are You Buying?

I tried a bottle of the 2008 Dom and found it very good, nice complexity and cut, while being more or less open for business now (some purists might disagree). But a real crowd pleaser at this stage... I tried the 2008 Agrapart Avizoises in 2016, and that was stunning, although also hard to even dri...
by Carl I Steefel
November 11th, 2019, 9:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Opening wines before reaching restaurant
Replies: 70
Views: 2612

Re: Opening wines before reaching restaurant

So, since this is the umpteenth thread on this topic in the past few years, and not one person has been able to cite an actual law that substantiates this urban myth, I’m going to assume that there is actually no law. Furthermore, if you want to BYO, and the restaurant turns you away, walk away and...
by Carl I Steefel
November 10th, 2019, 8:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Opening wines before reaching restaurant
Replies: 70
Views: 2612

Re: Opening wines before reaching restaurant

My problem the first time was that it never occurred to me that this would be the policy. Given that my buddies and I had brought countless opened bottle into various restaurants. So I had already opened, and then could not drink it... I doubt very much it is a State Law, and if there is one (there ...
by Carl I Steefel
November 10th, 2019, 2:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Opening wines before reaching restaurant
Replies: 70
Views: 2612

Opening wines before reaching restaurant

Headed to a place in Napa and fortunately I remembered to call them to make sure they were OK with me opening the wine to breathe before arrival. Good thing I did, because they weren't. Had this problem before at Commis in Oakland--brought a 1999 Mugnier les Fuees and opened it so that it could get ...
by Carl I Steefel
November 10th, 2019, 1:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?
Replies: 121
Views: 3812

Re: Has Premox Affected Your Appreciation Of Maturity?

Beaunehead: You are aptly named. The cork industry is not perfect but I don't think they are to blame here. Are we to say that those producers who have escaped this issue have selected better corks than those who have made mistakes?? That Americans get better corks than Burgundians?? I still think ...

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