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by Howard Cooper
February 15th, 2019, 7:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the Producers of Volnay
Replies: 96
Views: 2679

Re: Understanding the Producers of Volnay

William, any thoughts on Perrick Bouley and the change of style at his family domaine Haven't visited them yet! Tasted at over 300 domaines in Burgundy last year, and still so many unturned stones. That is what makes Burgundy so much fun. And, even if you tasted all of them, the next year there wou...
by Howard Cooper
February 15th, 2019, 7:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Futures
Replies: 65
Views: 1740

Re: Futures

James Stolle wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 10:37 am
I will try to find one in bend Oregon. Thanks. I’m probably going to up my budget as well
What Bordeaux futures have you bought in the past? Which Bordeaux have you had that have been your favorites?
by Howard Cooper
February 14th, 2019, 2:18 am
Forum: Travel Forum
Topic: Reims or Epernay for kid friendly day trip
Replies: 16
Views: 339

Re: Reims or Epernay for kid friendly day trip

Nothing kids like more than a day spent watching their parents drink wine. I mean, most of us have dragged kids to wineries at some point in our travels, but I have never been to a kid friendly winery.
by Howard Cooper
February 14th, 2019, 1:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the Producers of Volnay
Replies: 96
Views: 2679

Re: Understanding the Producers of Volnay

Lee Short wrote:
February 13th, 2019, 6:15 pm
Todd Hamina wrote:
February 13th, 2019, 5:48 pm
If you can get your hands on some Gerard Potel Pousse D'Or you should. Beautiful usage of whole cluster.
Todd is right. Do this thing.

Like Maureen, I am down to a very few precious bottles left.
Yes, I am sadly down to one Pommard
by Howard Cooper
February 14th, 2019, 1:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the Producers of Volnay
Replies: 96
Views: 2679

Re: Understanding the Producers of Volnay

Watching a video old man De Montille dancing around a restaurant joyful that terrorists had destroyed the World Trade Centers on 9/11, because we deserved it, put me off this producer forever. The D'Angerville and Pousse d'Or wines are extra beautiful. I remember reading about his comments after 9/...
by Howard Cooper
February 13th, 2019, 4:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ridge Monte Bello. Putting it back on the shelf.
Replies: 16
Views: 1472

Re: Ridge Monte Bello. Putting it back on the shelf.

I strongly advise taking advantage of the futures tasting events. They tend to show really well on release. Then shut down. Then gradually start opening up again. Then continuing to improve. This. I live nearby the Santa Cruz vineyard and have passed on tasting invitations. I should get my lazy but...
by Howard Cooper
February 13th, 2019, 3:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy: Vosne
Replies: 32
Views: 1615

Re: Burgundy: Vosne

Ummm ... agree with David. This does not feel like participation in WB. Your threads do not include any contributions from you -- and ignore the wealth of knowledge already shared so graciously on this board by so many and available via Search. And your comment about 'free knowledge" is also odd - ...
by Howard Cooper
February 13th, 2019, 4:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy: Chassagne
Replies: 2
Views: 221

Re: Burgundy: Chassagne

Don't forget that this village produces both red wines and white wines. My favorites from both colors are Ramonet and Bernard Moreau.
by Howard Cooper
February 13th, 2019, 4:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the Producers of Volnay
Replies: 96
Views: 2679

Re: Understanding the Producers of Volnay

In order of bottles owned, the producers for which I own the most Volnay are:

d'Angerville
Dublere
Louis Boillot (the producer that no longer exists)
Bouchard
Pousse d'Or
Clerget
Lafon
by Howard Cooper
February 13th, 2019, 4:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the Producers of Volnay
Replies: 96
Views: 2679

Re: Understanding the Producers of Volnay

Interesting topic, an area I am learning at the moment after great experiences with the case of ‘96 Pousse d’Or 60 Ouvrees. My focus has been on Angerville, Lafarge, and Montille with minor holdings in JM Bouley, Lafon, Pousse d’Or, Bouchard, Camille Giroud, Vaudoisey, Henri Boillot and Fontaine Ga...
by Howard Cooper
February 13th, 2019, 4:16 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy: Vosne
Replies: 32
Views: 1615

Re: Burgundy: Vosne

My favorites probably are Mugneret-Gibourg and Hudelot-Noellat.
by Howard Cooper
February 12th, 2019, 10:36 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the Producers of Volnay
Replies: 96
Views: 2679

Re: Understanding the Producers of Volnay

If I were to put them on a stylistic spectrum, Voillot is the most traditional, H. Boillot the most modern and d'Angerville firmly occupying the center (NB: I'm not familiar with all of these producers). One producer that was left off that I personally think is doing outstanding work is Louis Boill...
by Howard Cooper
February 12th, 2019, 10:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the Producers of Volnay
Replies: 96
Views: 2679

Re: Understanding the Producers of Volnay

Maxwell A. wrote:
February 11th, 2019, 9:31 pm
not on the list, but Lafon may be worth mentioning in the Volnay conversation...
I agree.
by Howard Cooper
February 12th, 2019, 5:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help a newbie with 2016 BDX in the ~$50-$75 range
Replies: 27
Views: 791

Re: Help a newbie with 2016 BDX in the ~$50-$75 range

Unlike Howard, I don't think it would be foolish to buy these wines "now," but it would be ill-advised if you are looking for something to drink in the near term. To be clear, I am not suggesting that nobody buy Bordeaux futures or even that younger people should not buy Bordeaux futures. That woul...
by Howard Cooper
February 12th, 2019, 5:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the Producers of Volnay
Replies: 96
Views: 2679

Re: Understanding the Producers of Volnay

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
February 12th, 2019, 4:57 am
I was surprised by that too, but some ppl must’ve stocked up. Ct isn’t even that up to date bc I haven’t logged most of mind and I put away a lot of 15 versueil. My thought is that since it’s not a super well known domaine perhaps a lot more of the ppl who bought it use CT.
Could be.
by Howard Cooper
February 12th, 2019, 5:16 am
Forum: Travel Forum
Topic: Winery tour in Bordeaux
Replies: 7
Views: 201

Re: Winery tour in Bordeaux

It often amazes me how few people use the search feature here: https://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=107668&p=1603386&hilit=henri+challeau#p1603386 https://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=124438&p=1939265&hilit=henri+challeau#p1939265 https://www.wineberserkers.co...
by Howard Cooper
February 12th, 2019, 5:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Ridge Zin HookerCreek '14...(short/boring)
Replies: 3
Views: 311

Re: TN: Ridge Zin HookerCreek '14...(short/boring)

I have gotten to the point with Ridge "Zins" that I mostly just buy Geyserville, Lytton Springs and, when I want a cheaper alternative, Three Valleys.
by Howard Cooper
February 12th, 2019, 5:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Great Wine Regions You Neglect
Replies: 45
Views: 1308

Re: Great Wine Regions You Neglect

Like most of us, I neglect most wine regions. I just don't have the ability to learn the wines from more than a few wine regions. Even with respect to the wine regions I think I know something about, I am constantly learning how much I don't know - sometimes I think the definition of a true wine exp...
by Howard Cooper
February 12th, 2019, 4:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Understanding the Producers of Volnay
Replies: 96
Views: 2679

Re: Understanding the Producers of Volnay

I am very surprised that Clerget is that high among producers of Volnay in terms of bottles. D'Angerville, Lafarge, Bouchard, Lafon, etc., have been around for many, many years. Even Bouley has been making wine for a number of years now. Clerget is a very, very old domaine (I think Thibaud is the 20...
by Howard Cooper
February 11th, 2019, 3:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help a newbie with 2016 BDX in the ~$50-$75 range
Replies: 27
Views: 791

Re: Help a newbie with 2016 BDX in the ~$50-$75 range

So I know nothing about Bordeaux beyond the basics. I buy mostly most California, Burgundy, and Rhone wines. My only real experience with Bordeaux is at the high end when friends bring nice bottles for dinner. Over time, I've been to discover my California cab palate is trending towards more Bordea...
by Howard Cooper
February 11th, 2019, 4:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2016 Burgs
Replies: 23
Views: 1226

Re: 2016 Burgs

Clerget versueil I got an email from Kogod about that the other day. he gushed pretty strongly about Clerget. I didnt know anything about them before that Clerget is a very old small winery - I think the current person running the estate is the 20 something's generation. For a long time, they made ...
by Howard Cooper
February 10th, 2019, 5:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Have your best wine experiences been with white or red?
Replies: 23
Views: 760

Re: Have your best wine experiences been with white or red?

I love white wines, esp. white Burgundy, German Riesling and Champagne. Have had great, great wines from all of these types and others (Laville Haut Brion and Haut Brion Blanc). But, if I had to list my 10 favorite wines of all time, I think all would be red.
by Howard Cooper
February 10th, 2019, 4:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

Of course we have to talk about politics. Is it not possible to keep politics out of this discussion? For those of you who think that millennials are killing wine, just remember this...they have no money right now. Those of us in Gen X couldn't afford expensive wines either when we were young. News...
by Howard Cooper
February 9th, 2019, 4:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

So right now, impacting policy right now, 68% of boomers vote and 45% of millennials vote, proving my point. Depends on what the overall point is. Yes, people are more likely to vote the older they get. But, I thought the overall discussion revolved around whether millennials are currently economic...
by Howard Cooper
February 9th, 2019, 3:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

So right now, impacting policy right now, 68% of boomers vote and 45% of millennials vote, proving my point.
by Howard Cooper
February 9th, 2019, 2:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

Few things here...First off, i am a Millennial. Born in 1984. Secondly, I love wine...that lends some context. I used to rage against my generation, however now, the boomers have taken that place. Why we don't like fine wine... 1. It's stupidly expensive now. Producers have jacked up prices far fas...
by Howard Cooper
February 6th, 2019, 3:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?
Replies: 133
Views: 3138

Re: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?

I think the best way to test this out is to try some wines from both regions in this price range. For burgundies, try Bourgogne rouge from Hudelot-Noellat, Jouan, Juillot or Domaine des Moirots; Chorey les Beaune from Dublere or Drouhin or Mercury from Faiveley. OK, when and where are you doing thi...
by Howard Cooper
February 6th, 2019, 3:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?
Replies: 133
Views: 3138

Re: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?

I am well aware of your fondness for H-N from many other threads You make that sound like a bad thing. Yes, I love the wines from H-N. In fact, most of the wines I discuss on this board from anywhere in the world (particularly the ones I recommend) are personal darlings. I would have a hard time re...
by Howard Cooper
February 6th, 2019, 3:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?
Replies: 133
Views: 3138

Re: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?

And I agree with others. There are plenty of worthwhile sub $30 Oregon Pinot and Chardonnay. If based in Raleigh, the podcaster should have plenty of quality sub $30 Oregon options at her disposal. If I remember the stat correctly, the state of NC is like the 4th or 5th largest consumer of Oregon P...
by Howard Cooper
February 6th, 2019, 5:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Comparison between 06 and 07 Taittinger Comtes ?
Replies: 2
Views: 233

Re: Comparison between 06 and 07 Taittinger Comtes ?

My guess is that they are comparable wines in quality but not in style, at least right now. The 2007 seems cleaner with more classic flavors. The 2006 seems more complex. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=153014&p=2547924&hi ... t#p2547924
by Howard Cooper
February 5th, 2019, 8:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?
Replies: 133
Views: 3138

Re: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?

I think that would be fun. I generally enjoy your first three producers, and think they deliver pretty good value. For Oregon, Evesham Wood, Patricia Green, Goodfellow(my wine, but value has always been a priority for me), Walter Scott, Vincent, Belle Pente, Hundred Suns, or Martin-Wood. Although i...
by Howard Cooper
February 5th, 2019, 6:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?
Replies: 133
Views: 3138

Re: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?

I think the best way to test this out is to try some wines from both regions in this price range. For burgundies, try Bourgogne rouge from Hudelot-Noellat, Jouan, Juillot or Domaine des Moirots; Chorey les Beaune from Dublere or Drouhin or Mercury from Faiveley. I think that would be fun. I general...
by Howard Cooper
February 4th, 2019, 6:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: My First...1st Growth
Replies: 87
Views: 3986

Re: My First...1st Growth

The Haut Brion was very good Saturday night. I decided to use Durand and it had a good nose on opening. I was relieved that the bottle integrity was sound. I tasted a wee bit. At first after tasting I decided to pour it into a decanter. It did have a bit of a musty smell on the open. It was cloudy ...
by Howard Cooper
February 4th, 2019, 5:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?
Replies: 133
Views: 3138

Re: [Poll] Who has the better $20-30 wines? Oregon or Burgundy?

I think the best way to test this out is to try some wines from both regions in this price range. For burgundies, try Bourgogne rouge from Hudelot-Noellat, Jouan, Juillot or Domaine des Moirots; Chorey les Beaune from Dublere or Drouhin or Mercury from Faiveley.
by Howard Cooper
February 4th, 2019, 10:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

at least in the South where we don't have any top-10 law schools (I think Duke, Emory and Vandy are the highest ranked) - Robert, I think you are missing one - the one law school in the south that is and always has been in the top 10. https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law...
by Howard Cooper
February 4th, 2019, 4:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

I’m not discussing salary discrepancies as Greg is very accurate. Just replying purely on what I quoted you on. Dude. If you think 120k for two people with student loans is decent you don’t understand the strain many are under. that couple right now is probably paying 3-4000 a month in student loan...
by Howard Cooper
February 3rd, 2019, 6:29 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNs: 30+ 2016 Classed Growth Bordeaux
Replies: 43
Views: 3208

Re: TNs: 30+ 2016 Classed Growth Bordeaux

Just back from the Toronto tasting, got through 41 wines I think (have to re-check my notes). I will try and post all the detailed notes tomorrow. I have enough energy for some generalizations today DRY WHITES---I don't think I've ever encountered more variability in style between houses than I did...
by Howard Cooper
February 3rd, 2019, 1:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 336
Views: 14481

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

I hope so, with 400 bottles of Carlisle and 100 bottles of Q Creek I still find it hard. But I am enjoying the clutter reduction in my cellar and the slow realization that I will never run out of good wine in my lifetime. champagne.gif How many bottles of Carlisle do you drink a year and at what ag...
by Howard Cooper
February 3rd, 2019, 1:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

This was in furtherance of my point that the legal world has polarized further and further in recent years. The legal world has been polarized at the partner level for a long, long time - all of my career at least. But, for starting salaries, the polarization increased a lot in the 1990s when inves...
by Howard Cooper
February 3rd, 2019, 1:12 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

Also, while law school tuitions are unbelievably high these days, even by college standards, the law student who can get jobs for the summer at major law firms make quite a bit of money that they can use to offset a portion of the cost. I have not followed this that closely, but I would think that ...
by Howard Cooper
February 3rd, 2019, 9:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

I generally agree with you that firms hire from local schools, in the same way that my firm hires from Fordham, Brooklyn, Cardozo, etc. But I think the overall point on law firms stands - it's become a far more haves and have nots profession as the last 50 years have evolved. Just look at the distr...
by Howard Cooper
February 3rd, 2019, 9:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

Your 2009 example Is a tough one. It was the height of the recession. Most business had to lay off or die. We leaned out but only letting go those associates and partners that really didn't perform during the good times, so why carry them during the bad times? Yes, 2008 and 2009 was unbelievable ha...
by Howard Cooper
February 3rd, 2019, 9:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

Also, while law school tuitions are unbelievably high these days, even by college standards, the law student who can get jobs for the summer at major law firms make quite a bit of money that they can use to offset a portion of the cost. I have not followed this that closely, but I would think that ...
by Howard Cooper
February 3rd, 2019, 8:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

For whoever posted (not you Robert) that partners would rather fire all the 26 year olds than lower comp - that puts a ton of pressure on partners. And partners are more expensive, so are sometimes easier to get rid of than associates. That was me. Note that firing associates and firing partners ar...
by Howard Cooper
February 3rd, 2019, 7:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

Sure you described the path of going in-house, which also means a huge pay cut compared with big law. How long will it take your associate to pay off debt, save enough to buy a house, etc. on an in-house comp package compared to a seventh year associate back when you graduated? Remember, this was a...
by Howard Cooper
February 2nd, 2019, 2:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan
Replies: 336
Views: 14481

Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

After an overall cellar reduction of 169 in 2018 I am off to a pretty good start in 2019 with 31 consumed and 17 purchased for a net reduction of 14. For the first time since joining the mailing list 15 years ago I did not take my full allocation from Carlisle... Major Separation Anxiety! I also cu...
by Howard Cooper
February 1st, 2019, 10:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: My First...1st Growth
Replies: 87
Views: 3986

Re: My First...1st Growth

I would not decant for too long. I think you want to see how the wine evolves and improves from first opening through the course of the bottle - hopefully over at least a couple of hours. Pay attention to the changes - it is more than the wine just opening up. Eat simpler food, maybe just a steak or...
by Howard Cooper
February 1st, 2019, 8:37 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

All the buzz about Millennials not wanting kids, wanting to jump around geographically and in jobs, wanting an urban environment over suburbs. I lived through that as well. Perhaps Millennials are different, or maybe my experience is unique, but I see my Millennial associates all getting married, t...
by Howard Cooper
February 1st, 2019, 8:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

Posts to the effect of, "When Millennials reach their prime earning years, we'll see how things change" seem to me to assume that Millennials will have prime earning years and spending power commensurate with generations that came before them. Presently, this seems like a very poor assumption. The ...
by Howard Cooper
February 1st, 2019, 8:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"
Replies: 321
Views: 9349

Re: "Millennials Now Ruining Wine As Well"

Posts to the effect of, "When Millennials reach their prime earning years, we'll see how things change" seem to me to assume that Millennials will have prime earning years and spending power commensurate with generations that came before them. Presently, this seems like a very poor assumption. The ...

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