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It is so funny that at least posters think there have been 18 vintages of the century in 20 years.

https://www.beaune-tourism.com/discover/hospices-de-beaune-wine-auction Somewhere on the bottle, it should say who elevated (or raised) the wine. Do you have this on your bottle. https://hospices-beaune.com/en/vin/pommard-cuvee-raymond-cyrot-2/ (on the bottle in this picture, Bichot (a negociant in ...

I must admit I have had the 1982 a few times and while it is quite good, for me it is not a 100 point wine. My guess is that eventually the 2016 will be a better wine than the 1982. Interesting comment from someone with such an old world palate. I’m listening. What was your take on the 2014? For me...

Spoke with a buddy who owns a vineyard in Oakville, and also a winemaker who sources from some top vineyards around the Valley, and they both said that ‘19 is looking like another ‘16 or ‘18... What does that mean? #vintageofthecentury [wink.gif] Is 2017 then the only vintage in the 2000s that is n...

Diane, I'm looking forward to reading about your champagne gems! Warren Warren, I rarely discuss Champagne, but a couple that I brought to dinners were a 1996 Salon and a 2006 Comtes de Champagne Rose and each one was stunning. I opened a 2006 Pol Roger Brut the other day and I had to check the lab...

blarmston wrote: ↑
September 15th, 2019, 3:12 pm
Spoke with a buddy who owns a vineyard in Oakville, and also a winemaker who sources from some top vineyards around the Valley, and they both said that ‘19 is looking like another ‘16 or ‘18...

What does that mean?

I must admit I have had the 1982 a few times and while it is quite good, for me it is not a 100 point wine. My guess is that eventually the 2016 will be a better wine than the 1982. I have enjoyed the 1975 and 1986 more than you guys did. I have very much enjoyed both of these wines. Another Pichon ...

For lunch, Le Bistro du Bord de l'Eau in Levernois can't be beaten. And to be honest, you can do much, much better than the Bistro de l'Hotel for dinner. It's vastly overpriced for average food, and the wine list is horrendously expensive. If it's wine you're after, Maison du Colombier or Ma Cuisin...

Add Chateau Climens, a few GKA from JJ Prum, Schloss Lieser, Zilliken and/or Reinhold Haart and some vintage Port.

Le Cellier Volnaysien if you want a bigger lunch with excellent wine and are willing to drive to Volnay. La Dilettante in Beaune if you want a lighter lunch with excellent wine. This is a small bar with an excellent owner named Lolo (used to own Caves Madeleine) Brasserie Le Belena in Beaune is you...

If you want some Burgundies in the collection, I recommend:

Rossignol-Trapet Latricieres Chambertin or Chapelle Chambertin
Pierre Amiot Clos de la Roche
Hudelot-Noellat Clos Vougeot or Chambolle-Musigny Charmes or either Vosne Romanee Suchots or Beaumonts
Chandon de Briailles Corton Bressandes

Le Cellier Volnaysien if you want a bigger lunch with excellent wine and are willing to drive to Volnay. La Dilettante in Beaune if you want a lighter lunch with excellent wine. This is a small bar with an excellent owner named Lolo (used to own Caves Madeleine) Brasserie Le Belena in Beaune is you ...

I don’t think Adam’s discussion here is exciting the Riesling lovers, the opposite if he is trying to sell his wine. To be honest, his posts here contrasting his Rieslings to Rieslings made by everyone else in the world even have me wondering if all his anti-Chardonnay posts are about furthering hi...

James Billy wrote: ↑
September 13th, 2019, 2:13 am
For a business to refuse customers is to cut off their nose to spite their face.

American wine stores don’t allocate rare wines to their best customers?

The beauty of German Riesling is the interplay/tension of acidity and sweetness. The RS number means very little in and of itself if you don't know the acidity. I think it would be very sad if winemakers intentionally tried to make a wine with the RS levels you are talking about. Driven by frustrat...

Good luck in your planning, Matt. Gus posted a link above to my recent trip post - there's some (hopefully valuable) info therein. I got a lot of my info and inspiration from some of Howard's posts in the past... lots of good info on this board. Howard's post above is very true - I'd done Burgundy ...

That said this particular shop had very little to offer when it comes to any kind of known quantities. I occasionally get a list of the wines that the Caveau has sent to me by email. The last time I got one (in June), it listed whites as being in stock from Bernard Moreau, Heitz-Lochardet, Joseph C...

Since you are still early in the learning phase, I suggest you start with the classics. Before you go, read Judgement of Paris. https://www.amazon.com/Judgment-Paris-George-M-Taber/dp/0743297326/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=tasting+of+paris+wine+chateau+montelena&qid=1568234036&s=gateway&sr=8-1 Then, go tast...

The food is very good (Ferme de la Ruchotte is a really cool experience), the wines on some lists are great chances to try things and you end up talking to some very fun people just sitting next to you and while meeting producers. It's also quite pretty, especially once you realize you can just dri...

Nathan V. wrote: ↑
September 11th, 2019, 7:35 am

Piedmont is starting to be lame for many of the same reasons as Burgundy. I'd hit the Valle D'Aosta.

Your priority obviously is to get into the choicest producers at lesser regions. I would rather visit the areas where they make wines I drink on a regular basis. Each to his own.

Nathan V. wrote: ↑
September 11th, 2019, 7:34 am
Did you get into any "board darling" producers via email/call/social media? I'd be pretty shocked if you did.

Yes. Several.

Update: Looks like Neal is doing them now: https://www.madrosejourneys.com/journeys/#burgundy-banner-section it's expensive ($7800 pp), but sounds cool. That link is helpful. Thanks. I really am not interested for Burgundy (I like being on my own there), but I have never been to the Piedmont, don't...

I have no industry pull whatsoever (I am a retired attorney and have never had a store arrange a visit for me) and have a great time in Burgundy every time I visit. I have one friend who has been going for years and is friends with a few producers, but on most of my trips at least half of the visits...

That said this particular shop had very little to offer when it comes to any kind of known quantities. I occasionally get a list of the wines that the Caveau has sent to me by email. The last time I got one (in June), it listed whites as being in stock from Bernard Moreau, Heitz-Lochardet, Joseph C...

That said this particular shop had very little to offer when it comes to any kind of known quantities. I occasionally get a list of the wines that the Caveau has sent to me by email. The last time I got one (in June), it listed whites as being in stock from Bernard Moreau, Heitz-Lochardet, Joseph C...

If you are going to Burgundy so that you can taste wines from a very few "revered names", stay in your hotel during the day and sleep or something, go to one of a few restaurants that have those wines for lunch and dinner, and spend a lot of money drinking the wines. That being said, on my last two ...

For $100-200 you can get a rather nice Grand Cru - like a Corton Charlemagne from Bouchard Pere. https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/bouchard+pere+grand+cru+corton+charlemagne+cote+de+beaune+burgundy+france/1/usa If you want to spend a bit less, try Bouchard's Meursault Perrieres or any premier cru C...

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑
September 10th, 2019, 1:49 pm
Jean-Pierre Boyer’s 70th vintage.

I wonder if Tua goes pro afterwards.

Is Tua going to go pro after the season or after harvest?

This gives contact information for growers and merchants and tells who speaks English. Don't expect to see DRC listed here. https://www.bourgogne-wines.com/our-expertise/passionate-men-and-women/the-producers-behind-the-reputation-of-the-wines-of-bourgogne,2507,9363.html If you make an appointment ...

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑
September 10th, 2019, 12:42 pm
I wonder if 2019 will be the last BAMA!

I did a trip similar to this in 2017 and we used an app called Rue des Vignerons to book many of our tastings throughout France. It worked really well, no one particularly well known but we enjoyed it. In Burgundy it was fun to meet some smaller producers that were willing to spend hours with us. H...

This is grape eating season and I really love red Muscat grapes... September October delight... so tasty We get Muscat grapes from Chile that have no seeds and are really wonderful tasting. Much more flavor than other table grapes. They generally get to Whole Foods around here sometime in later win...

my wife's teacher schedule means that we would probably be going in early April (spring break). I don't think I'd probably even try emailing during the next two months so that my email doesn't get lost in the chaos of harvest, but would probably try to start soon after to get as much head start as ...

"Robert A. Alfert, Jr., was right"

"Neal made a good point"

I guess the theme is the invasion of the attorneys.

my wife's teacher schedule means that we would probably be going in early April (spring break). I don't think I'd probably even try emailing during the next two months so that my email doesn't get lost in the chaos of harvest, but would probably try to start soon after to get as much head start as ...

My opinion is the attraction of Burgundy is not visiting the hyper domaines (like in bdx where u can visit lafite Margaux etc). Rather it’s walking the legendary vineyards, taking the the mystique of the region. Catch lunch and dinner at some great spots with reasonable lists . I look forward to ju...

That’s a neat piece of advice Alan, I’ll have to do so on our next visit. I just visited Meursault for a few days in July. I found it significantly more challenging to make appointments in the Cotes de nuits than in Bordeaux, Champagne, and certainly the US. You will not have any success at all the...

I am very confused. When I see the word BAMA, the first thing I think of is the football team of Alag*dd*amnbama and hope that they lose horribly.

I still have a number of remnants of being born and raised in Georgia.

As for smaller growers, a lot of the wineries I visit are now repeats. Some of my visits are to wineries where I have friends with contacts. But, a good number are wineries I just tried to make a contact with and lucked out when they agreed to see me. It typically takes about 10 new wineries to con...

... My notes of my visits to producers are all positive, but I never lie. If I don't like the wines from a producer, I don't post about the visit. ... Hmm, if you were Roman Catholic this would be considered a lie of omission. I would call it treating people who have been nice to me with courtesy.

It is also true that making appointments at Bouchard, Drouhin, Jadot, and Olivier Leflaive is very easily done online. However, that is a grand total of 4 producers where a string doesn't need to be pulled. There may be more, but I don't think there are many more. Having seen on this thread that ot...

It is also true that making appointments at Bouchard, Drouhin, Jadot, and Olivier Leflaive is very easily done online. However, that is a grand total of 4 producers where a string doesn't need to be pulled. There may be more, but I don't think there are many more. Having seen on this thread that ot...

Wife and I are in the beginning stages of planning our next European adventure and I'm trying to work the idea of a couple days in Lyon into the trip. For some reason I feel like tastings in the N Rhone and Burgundy just work slightly differently than other regions that we've gone (Tuscany, Bordeau...

Wife and I are in the beginning stages of planning our next European adventure and I'm trying to work the idea of a couple days in Lyon into the trip. For some reason I feel like tastings in the N Rhone and Burgundy just work slightly differently than other regions that we've gone (Tuscany, Bordeau...

That’s a neat piece of advice Alan, I’ll have to do so on our next visit. I just visited Meursault for a few days in July. I found it significantly more challenging to make appointments in the Cotes de nuits than in Bordeaux, Champagne, and certainly the US. You will not have any success at all the...

This gives contact information for growers and merchants and tells who speaks English. Don't expect to see DRC listed here. https://www.bourgogne-wines.com/our-expertise/passionate-men-and-women/the-producers-behind-the-reputation-of-the-wines-of-bourgogne,2507,9363.html If you make an appointment s...

"I would argue that Napa is simply too warm to grow great Chardonnay, at least once you're north of Yountville. But there are plenty of vineyards farther west in Sonoma county, particularly western and true Sonoma Coast, that are well positioned to produce beautiful wines. I might rank the Ridge up...

YLee wrote: ↑
September 7th, 2019, 2:12 pm

Howard Cooper wrote: ↑
September 7th, 2019, 2:03 pm

YLee wrote: ↑
September 7th, 2019, 9:22 am
I want to purchase wines from a shop in France but I need an importer. Any recommendations?
Where is the store?
Lorraine

Sorry. I only know a way to get wine in from Burgundy

YLee wrote: ↑
September 7th, 2019, 9:22 am
I want to purchase wines from a shop in France but I need an importer. Any recommendations?

Where is the store?

Adam Frisch wrote: ↑
September 6th, 2019, 9:17 pm
Part of me is starting to question - is it oak in the Chard config that somehow morphs in to something I dislike?

Do $10 Chardonnays see new oak barrels.

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