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I have had wonderful bottles of Krug, Dom, Salon, etc. But for me, my favorite of the super cuvees over time has been Dom Ruinart and the best value today is Taittinger CdC.

My thoughts on buying and consuming Burgundy is that you can save yourself a lot of heartache and regret if you buy Cru Bojo instead. I am dead serious. I have bought a fair amount of Burgs over the years and continue to cellar quite a bit. In terms of sheer drinking pleasure, the cost to experienc...

Yeah, me too. I was being generous when I said at least 90%. I think it closer to 99.9% for me too. What is the percentage of Burgundies you are buying from producers you have never tasted before. Sure, most of us have to buy wines we have not tasted. But, if you like a producer from other vintages...

Excellent. Ready to drink but no rush to drink them

Don't skip Hudelot-Noellat.

How about buying a couple of bottles of Bourgogne Rouge by Arlaud or Mercury by Faiveley or a village wine by either and open the bottles. See if you can find a 2012 or 2014 so that the wine has a bit of age to it but still are reflective of what the wineries are doing today. On both wineries, if yo...

The flaws in 2004s were not apparent to most critics until a couple of years after harvest. And, after a couple of years after harvest, vintages like 2000 and 2001 began putting on weight and have become much better than anyone thought at the outset. Howard, any critics you've found more or less re...

Why take a chance on 2004 or 2011 (except for wines you taste and like) when you can more reliably buy other vintages.

From the 2017's you've tasted, how would you describe the vintage in red and white? For red most vignerons compared to 2007 but I must admit I didn't tast 2007 at this early stage so this is difficult for me to judge. I can say that the sappy fruit will make probably wines that will drink much easi...

I should comment that the one change I would make to the Burgundies I buy is to focus more on a smaller number of producers. I have too much wine from producers where I bought into the hype from store emails, wine magazines, etc. I guess some of this is a natural result of trying to figure out what ...

I like the style of the 2014 Reds quite a bit (and definitely the whites) but with all they hype the 2015 Reds generated it sometimes makes me think twice. I guess one question I have related to this is when is it worth paying more for a "great" vintage? Depends. I also like the style of the 2014 v...

I want to comment that the author of this article was our very own, and my friend, Panos Kakaviatos

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For whites, my top four (much lower quantities) are Ramonet, Dublere, Bernard Moreau, and PYCM. PYCM would move to second if you treat his wines and those of his wife as one winery - don't know yet whether that makes sense to do Two different wineries. She has her own vines and makes the wines hers...

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I was hoping that there would be an answer "all of the above". I drink more Burgundy than anything else. By a lot. I have had the opportunity over the last 40 years ago to taste a lot of different Burgundies from a lot of different producers and vintages and can say that my tastes do not necessarily...

And Rudi’s portfolio is not at all what it used to be. True, but neither is Terry's. Rudi's portfolio still includes Fürst, Gunderloch, Joh Jos Prüm, Meyer-Näkel, Rebholz, Schäfer-Fröhlich, Schloss Lieser, Wirsching and Zilliken. And, Reinhold Haart. Don't sleep on his wines, they can be as good as...

This store in DC has an excellent selection of German wines, but no Leitz. https://bassins.com/wine_list.php?country=Germany

You can find Leitz across the country by using Wine Searcher. https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/leitz/1/usa

I have enjoyed ripe vintages of Bordeaux including 1982, 1985, 1990, and 2005 but have not had a 2003 that I really liked.

Hi all. Long time, no see. What is this obsession with “best”? Doesn’t this miss the entire point of Burgundy? Isn’t it more fun to understand and appreciate differences in vintages rather than make blanket proclamations on quality? 99, 02, 05, 09, 10, 15 are all profound vintages, but less so with...

Thanks for the Paulee advice. I will be there, and happy to link up with any others that may be there. I will be doing 50% spit/50% drink... not a goal to hit every producer... and I think will make a list and prioritize it of a dozen and go from there. If you know people there, or find people to t...

Although I had sworn that 2010 would be my last Red Burg vintage, and I went VERY heavily into it, I did buy a few ‘12’s and now a smattering of 15’s...so much for resolutions. I have not had a chance to really try the ‘15’s, but I am curious about what others who have tasted a fair amount think. I...

Would the view on 11 vs 12 vs 13 vs 14 change if you were looking at Volnay (Lafarge, Angerville etc) specifically? 2015. I mean seriously...don't waste your money on these off vintages. Instead of buying a mixed case from 12s and 14s (oh and avoid 11s pls). Buy a fewer amount of the 15s, the wines...

2012 is a sleeper vintage, some very, very good wines. Will unfold over time. 2014 is underrated, at the top end, they are beautiful. Many drinking very well now too. 2001 and 2013 except for the very top producers I would mostly avoid. 2015 Vs 2016 is interesting, I am really liking the 16's I hav...

Would the view on 11 vs 12 vs 13 vs 14 change if you were looking at Volnay (Lafarge, Angerville etc) specifically? I think 2011 is weaker everywhere. Two years ago at the Paulee, I really liked Angerville's 2014 Taillepieds. But, from Volnay, as from a lot of places, if you are going back, see if ...

I will wait to rank 2016 until I taste more in March at the Paulee. Of the others, I would put 2015 at the top, 2011 way below the other four, and 2012, 2013 and 2014 as comparable in quality but not in style. 2013 is a more tannic vintage that has good density but needs more time. 2012 is a richer...

I completely disagree. When I look at the list of producers I see a virtual who’s who of the next generation of great producers in Burgundy. Hopefully, people will agree with you and attendance will be down giving me more time to talk with people. Sorry to hijack this thread. I am planning on atten...

I will wait to rank 2016 until I taste more in March at the Paulee. Of the others, I would put 2015 at the top, 2011 way below the other four, and 2012, 2013 and 2014 as comparable in quality but not in style. 2013 is a more tannic vintage that has good density but needs more time. 2012 is a richer...

I will wait to rank 2016 until I taste more in March at the Paulee. Of the others, I would put 2015 at the top, 2011 way below the other four, and 2012, 2013 and 2014 as comparable in quality but not in style. 2013 is a more tannic vintage that has good density but needs more time. 2012 is a richer ...

Jeremy Holmes wrote: ↑
October 11th, 2018, 4:27 pm
Now to ’14. 2014 is the most brilliant young vintage for white Burgundy in the CdB and Chablis.

+1

2007 Chapelle Chambertin Jadot 2007 Chapelle Chambertin Rossignol-Trapet 2007 Bachelet GC Corbeaux 2007 Bachelet Charmes Chambertin 2010 Rheinhold Haart GC Auslese 2015 Moreau-Naudet Chablis 2009 Chidane Clos Habert 2008 Dublere Charmes Chambertin 2008 Bertheau CM 1er Cru 2008 Hudelot-Noellat Clos V...

Are the 05s in any position to be evaluated? It would surprise me if one could learn a great deal from opening them now, and certainly it would seem to be an unfair competition with earlier vintages that have really begun to stretch their legs In the last year, my Truchot Bourgogne Rouge has finall...

I am quite sure that Jeremy was basing his assessment of the vintage on a broader sample than was represented in this tasting. I mean, he must occasionally drink like us Not that I have noticed. But, Jeremy drinks a lot of Burgundy and I cannot imagine that Jeremy's views are based purely on this t...

If you want wine bars in Beaune, try Maison Colombier and la Dilitante. For wineries, go to Drouhin and Bouchard (need appointments).

BORDEAUX!!!

Then maybe Champagne and Chablis.

I don’t drink as much Bordeaux as I did when I was younger, but my favorite vintages of the 2000-2010 era have been 2005 and then 2001. I like 2010 more than 2009, which often seem to have acidity levels that are too low for me. Same issue I am having with some, but not all, 1990s. Fro me, a bit too...

I wonder how many of you caught this quote from Gilman on the 2010 L'Evangile thread: Still, the great vintage for the end of that decade on the Gironde remains 2008, which towers over both 2009 and 2010 and it [ sic ] really and truly a profound Bordeaux vintage. I've been thinking about this comm...

If you want an older similar vintage, compare to 1979, a seriously underrated year, with many wines still drinking beautifully. That is a high recommendation indeed in my book. 20 years ago I repeated the accepted wisdom that 1979s were very good but needed to be drunk up. I finally gave up on sayi...

If you are going to be careless, Beaune is a much more enjoyable place to walk around than is Reims. He should be careless, he's on vacation! Go crazy, have fun! But yeah, Beaune is better for wine-related shenanigans than Reims, though the cathedral in Reims is a sight to behold. I meant carless. ...

If you are going to be carless, Beaune is a much more enjoyable place to walk around than is Reims.

Cracks me up that you old Geezers are buying 2015 and 2016 Bordeaux! ;) 16 bottles of 2016 and about 3 cases of 2015, all bought pre-resolution. My assisted living facility better have decanters available! 3 cases 2015. 2 cases 2016. I buy Bordeaux. I like Bordeaux. I drink Bordeaux. I buy Bordeaux...

Damn dog, why do you have to get up at 5:30 in the morning? Because during the first 2-3 hours each day, the phone doesn't ring, no one stops in to chat, and I can actually work. The rest of the day I am more likely to be holding client hands and telling associates, nicely, why what they did was no...

There is a long history of German kabinetts aging very well when they come from top producers and top terroir. You would be better off learning the top producers and the top terroir. I doubt wineries like Zilliken and Prum have forgotten how to make kabinetts that age. I will let them focus on how t...

A lot of the California Chardonnay listed don't meet Sarah's requirement that "we just have to find something that doesn't taste awful." Most of the really popular California Chardonnay listed really taste awful. Now, if we want to remove that requirement, I would go with Sonoma-Cutrer, which has a ...

On this board, there is a wonderful thread on lesser known Burgundies. https://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=119762 Is there a similar thread on up and coming smaller Bordeaux properties or anything sharing the non-classified lesser known Bordeauxs one should buy. If so, I have no...

One of the interesting aspects of being retired, is that having more time to travel is impacting my wine buying. Over 1/2 of the wine I have waiting to be shipped to me right now is from Burgundy or Champagne producers that I visited this summer (purchases are not necessarily direct from the winerie...

This and the retirement thread in Asylum go hand in hand. We need a Monte Carlo simulation for cellaring Bordeaux. If I (and my palate) outlive my cellar I’ll have to buy aged Bordeaux at auction. Assuming I haven’t outlived my money. With this I agree: Who the heck knows? If you need the money in ...

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2018, 11:54 am
Cracks me up that you old Geezers are buying 2015 and 2016 Bordeaux!

I would love to be able to remember this post and find and repost it in about 10 years when Mr. Alfert is telling us what a bargain 2026 Cantemerle and Sociando Mallet are.

AlexS wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2018, 2:19 pm
Easy answer:

Rombauer

Just save money and get Kendall Jackson if you are going to get that.

No question in my mind (esp if I was going to be drinking with them): Chablis. Lots to choose from within the price range. One example: https://www.bassins.com/wine_detail.php?id=75196 Well sure, if it were us drinking it. The problem with chablis is that there is pretty much zero name recognition ...

A Macon from Comte Lafon - estate has big name

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