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by Kris Patten
September 26th, 2020, 2:40 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2016 Barolo : what NOT to buy?
Replies: 21
Views: 1256

Re: 2016 Barolo : what NOT to buy?

Hi Kris- just to clarify what term do you qualify to cellar ? I am expecting to drink many of these wines between 2024-2036. I won't have the discipline for most to go 20 years as good as some are drinking now. Do you think this vintage won't last 20 years ? I can definitely see some that I'll drin...
by Kris Patten
September 26th, 2020, 2:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2016 Barolo : what NOT to buy?
Replies: 21
Views: 1256

Re: 2016 Barolo : what NOT to buy?

I will say the historical significance of Giacosa is unrealistic footprints to follow Giacosa chooses to charge a very high price based on their reputation and historical significance, so the quality of the wines should be held to account accordingly. Can't have the pie and eat it as well. Pretty s...
by Kris Patten
September 25th, 2020, 8:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wayfarer Vineyard
Replies: 15
Views: 1420

Re: Wayfarer Vineyard

CJ Beazley wrote:
September 24th, 2020, 11:40 am
Is this technically part of Pahlmeyer?
Separate project but family now that Pahlmeyer label is Gallo owned.
by Kris Patten
September 25th, 2020, 8:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2016 Barolo : what NOT to buy?
Replies: 21
Views: 1256

Re: 2016 Barolo : what NOT to buy?

I like my Barolo old so not too knowledgeable about the last decade’s vintages but has Giacosa fallen that far? We sell Giacosa, but the comments are concerning, will pull some 2016 samples and see. I will say the historical significance of Giacosa is unrealistic footprints to follow for anyone as ...
by Kris Patten
September 25th, 2020, 8:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2016 Barolo : what NOT to buy?
Replies: 21
Views: 1256

Re: 2016 Barolo : what NOT to buy?

I'd buy them all to drink.....at the right price. To cellar that list is greatly reduced.
by Kris Patten
September 25th, 2020, 7:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: de Negoce offer
Replies: 4612
Views: 264091

Re: de Negoce offer

Interesting, other than suggesting incorrectly that distributors mark up brands 50%. If I cleared half that I'd be the best wholesaler in America and most hated for taking people to the hoop like that. Oregon and Washington are intriguing. I find those WA retail price to be very inflated though and ...
by Kris Patten
September 24th, 2020, 9:04 pm
Forum: Epicurean Exploits - Food and Recipes
Topic: What did you cook tonight?
Replies: 1650
Views: 88475

Re: What did you cook tonight?

K_F_o_l_e_y wrote:
September 2nd, 2020, 12:35 pm
Cauliflower florets roasted at 750°F with dukkah, Aleppo peppers and tahini
Made this last night.....killer. Would only add a bit more lemon juice to tahini drizzle.
by Kris Patten
September 24th, 2020, 8:44 pm
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: Mezcal advice?
Replies: 49
Views: 4686

Re: Mezcal advice?

I'm hooked on the Death & Co. "Oaxaca Old Fashioned" now and have been making them like crazy. I was using Casa Dragones Blanco with the Guerro above, but realized this might not be the most cost effective combination, over time. So, I've started using the Del Maguey Vida mexcal and it's great... e...
by Kris Patten
September 24th, 2020, 8:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: de Negoce offer
Replies: 4612
Views: 264091

Re: de Negoce offer

Love the reaches for justification to buy these with limited info, NDAs and such....just admit to yourself it's the thrill of the hunt and the search for treasure and the hope of the day you can say you bought de Negoce Scarecrow or Screaming Eagle or Sine Qua Non back in the day for $25. Welcome t...
by Kris Patten
September 24th, 2020, 7:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: de Negoce offer
Replies: 4612
Views: 264091

Re: de Negoce offer

Love the reaches for justification to buy these with limited info, NDAs and such....just admit to yourself it's the thrill of the hunt and the search for treasure and the hope of the day you can say you bought de Negoce Scarecrow or Screaming Eagle or Sine Qua Non back in the day for $25.
by Kris Patten
September 24th, 2020, 12:15 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The Next MACDONALD?
Replies: 195
Views: 19161

Re: The Next MACDONALD?

Joe B wrote:
September 24th, 2020, 10:02 am
JohnP wrote:
September 24th, 2020, 8:10 am
NED VALOIS wrote:
September 24th, 2020, 8:00 am
Maybe it is the secret MacDonald's Reserve that only a few of us get ?
I call bs...wait, is there such a thing?
I’m not telling but.......
Weird, I only get the Historic Vine Cabernet from the oldest vines in the vineyard. Didn't know about Reserve.
by Kris Patten
September 24th, 2020, 7:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The Next MACDONALD?
Replies: 195
Views: 19161

Re: The Next MACDONALD?

Tough to mirror historic site + vineyard ownership these days. There is likely more potential for a next cult in Sonoma vs. Napa, the biggest issue being most cults are Cab and most older vineyards are Zin or Petite.
by Kris Patten
September 24th, 2020, 7:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Allocations Ranked Against Each Other
Replies: 19
Views: 1694

Re: Allocations Ranked Against Each Other

Honestly, I’d get off the lists. You’ll probably hear this from several others. There are very few allocated wines that can’t be found on the secondary market, many times at lower prices. Bingo. And then you are not locked into buying certain quantities in all years. Does this mean you have dropped...
by Kris Patten
September 23rd, 2020, 6:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2005 Le Vieux Donjon Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Replies: 1
Views: 182

Re: TN: 2005 Le Vieux Donjon Châteauneuf-du-Pape

I loved this wine young....drank every one of them.

Drank a bunch at Marche Bacchus in Vegas one night too on the patio.....thankfully we went out after so I couldn't blame the CdP for how I felt the next day.
by Kris Patten
September 23rd, 2020, 6:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Allocations Ranked Against Each Other
Replies: 19
Views: 1694

Re: Allocations Ranked Against Each Other

I'd only be signing up for lists with no retail presence or that offer a significant discount vs. retail. Scarecrow MACDONALD William & Mary Rivers Marie Caterwaul Maybach Screaming Eagle Outside of those, most are distributed, and I'd expect there will be plenty of wine with no restaurants for fore...
by Kris Patten
September 23rd, 2020, 5:54 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Suggestions on serving 1965 Mayacamus?
Replies: 8
Views: 490

Re: Suggestions on serving 1965 Mayacamus?

It's fake if your label has a U in Mayacamas.

I'd stand it up for a month before opening and as noted decant for sediment and back into the bottle.
by Kris Patten
September 23rd, 2020, 5:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: William & Mary - September 22nd!
Replies: 150
Views: 9645

Re: William & Mary - September 22nd!

Christine is REALLY bummed x3....maybe Will will see her despair and come to the rescue.
by Kris Patten
September 22nd, 2020, 10:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: de Negoce offer
Replies: 4612
Views: 264091

Re: de Negoce offer

Mike G wrote:
September 22nd, 2020, 7:03 pm
About time for a run of whites... not sure I can take too many more Cab offers. Cam doing his best to drive the Case Splitters business.
If you look at approved COLAs, 43 - 54 are all Cabs with 2 Merlot, 2 Cab Franc, and 1 Pinot Noir for good measure. The next white is 64 which is Chard.
by Kris Patten
September 22nd, 2020, 9:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The way too early look at 2020 in Willamette Valley
Replies: 77
Views: 4303

Re: The way too early look at 2020 in Willamette Valley

Love to hear some updates from Jim, Marcus, Todd, Vincent, and any other winemakers and vineyard managers on the ground.
by Kris Patten
September 22nd, 2020, 9:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: William & Mary - September 22nd!
Replies: 150
Views: 9645

Re: William & Mary - September 22nd!

In for some Red Blend, I love Franc, and for a Napa Cab to test drive. Will has been such a great guy, even sending me some 17's when we had our little boy last October and couldn't buy, that I had to get a couple. He's helped me over the years a ton be it RM or W&M. Will definitely put some 19s in ...
by Kris Patten
September 22nd, 2020, 8:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Riesling geeks, what glassware do you use?
Replies: 33
Views: 1394

Re: Riesling geeks, what glassware do you use?

Pound it out of the bottle, after all, it's the Coors Light of wine, just wish the labels turned blue so I knew it was cold.
by Kris Patten
September 22nd, 2020, 6:29 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Order reneged: getwineonline
Replies: 22
Views: 1612

Re: Order reneged: getwineonline

Not sure their business model, but we used to have some internet customers like this that wanted our catalog in Excel and pricing. They would post every wine, and "take orders", it came to a head when they charged a customer for a full container of Penfold's 389 and then asked if we had 1300 cases i...
by Kris Patten
September 22nd, 2020, 5:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: MacDonald release is imminent!!!
Replies: 166
Views: 14847

Re: MacDonald release is imminent!!!

NickRut wrote:
September 22nd, 2020, 5:38 pm
Andrew K. wrote:
September 22nd, 2020, 5:24 pm
Andrew K. wrote:
September 7th, 2020, 3:58 pm
Anyone looking to share an allocation this year to keep your place on the list, feel free reach out to me.
Sadly no one took me up on my offer. pileon

I’d bet there are like 2-3 people max that don’t take their allocation every year.
And none of those frequent this site.
by Kris Patten
September 22nd, 2020, 7:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which Cailloux to bring?
Replies: 6
Views: 459

Re: Which Cailloux to bring?

I'd take a 2010.
by Kris Patten
September 21st, 2020, 7:09 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: de Negoce offer
Replies: 4612
Views: 264091

Re: de Negoce offer

Little help, unlike usual all the wines are going thru Bin to Bottle and Napa Wine Company, so either Cam is having them purchase on his behalf to hide source or these are all custom crush wines.

https://ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewC ... 9001000268
by Kris Patten
September 20th, 2020, 6:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: de Negoce offer
Replies: 4612
Views: 264091

Re: de Negoce offer

St. Helena is likely Raymond if I had to guess with one wine a 93+, only others close is Levensohn or Hayfork Field Blend.
by Kris Patten
September 20th, 2020, 5:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What to pair with American Wagyu Ground Beef?
Replies: 31
Views: 1408

Re: What to pair with American Wagyu Ground Beef?

German Riesling is always a nice counterpoint. I like Cru Beaujolais with fattier meats too, Cornas too. Never would have thought to pair Riesling with Burgers, but with last night’s burgers we finished the other half of a bottle of Desire Lines Riesling. Very enjoyable together. Old Auslese will r...
by Kris Patten
September 20th, 2020, 10:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What to pair with American Wagyu Ground Beef?
Replies: 31
Views: 1408

Re: What to pair with American Wagyu Ground Beef?

German Riesling is always a nice counterpoint. I like Cru Beaujolais with fattier meats too, Cornas too.
by Kris Patten
September 20th, 2020, 10:03 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2015 Domaine de la Pépière (Marc Ollivier) Muscadet de Sèvre-et-Maine Chateau Thébaud
Replies: 33
Views: 1432

Re: TN: 2015 Domaine de la Pépière (Marc Ollivier) Muscadet de Sèvre-et-Maine Chateau Thébaud

These are wines you just buy every year due to the beauty of vintage diversity and the wines are never pondering or heavy regardless of vintage.
by Kris Patten
September 19th, 2020, 6:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vintage Bordeaux wines - investigation
Replies: 24
Views: 1769

Re: Vintage Bordeaux wines - investigation

Cool find. For $1k I'd buy that lot and roll the dice too.

Please keep sharing.
by Kris Patten
September 19th, 2020, 12:43 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: MacDonald release is imminent!!!
Replies: 166
Views: 14847

Re: MacDonald release is imminent!!!

In since 2010, have only uncorked two bottles and gifted one to a buddy. Nice lil stash. I received the 2010 offer but was loading a plane for a trip to Italy, so I passed. Mistake. Big mistake. In since 2012. I missed 10, 11, and 12 because they sold out too quickly and I was at work. Set an appoi...
by Kris Patten
September 19th, 2020, 11:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNs: 2017 Lumpp A Vigne, 2016 Tignanello
Replies: 9
Views: 496

Re: TNs: 2017 Lumpp A Vigne, 2016 Tignanello

Michael,

You seem to post on Lumpp more frequently than anyone. Can you share some specific wines + vintage from Lumpp?
by Kris Patten
September 19th, 2020, 10:34 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Chateau Montelena no red wine produced in 2020
Replies: 32
Views: 2599

Re: Chateau Montelena no red wine produced in 2020

Lots of wait and see in WA and ORE.
by Kris Patten
September 19th, 2020, 10:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US Chardonnay Producer Recommendations
Replies: 28
Views: 853

Re: US Chardonnay Producer Recommendations

Based on OPs current likes, I'd add DuMol, Varner, Brewer Clifton and Hartford Court.
by Kris Patten
September 19th, 2020, 10:26 am
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: WTF happened to my scotch?
Replies: 21
Views: 643

Re: WTF happened to my scotch?

Tariffs definitely hurt price. The trend towards bourbin style Cask finishes to battle the Bourbon trend and recruit new drinkers has definitely changed the flavors, texture, and mouthfeel on many scotches in the past decade. I only really taste what we sell...Balvenie has remained pretty consistent...
by Kris Patten
September 19th, 2020, 7:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?
Replies: 105
Views: 5402

Re: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?

Very helpful information, thank you Kris! We will see if European distributors have a need to offload their allocations with the perceived demand here for 2008 CdC and if a bunch of it hits US shores at lower prices. Historically CdC is a somm/restaurant wine vs. a retail brand so there may be a ne...
by Kris Patten
September 19th, 2020, 7:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US Chardonnay Producer Recommendations
Replies: 28
Views: 853

Re: US Chardonnay Producer Recommendations

Ramey!
by Kris Patten
September 19th, 2020, 7:37 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?
Replies: 105
Views: 5402

Re: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?

Time will tell... Hopefully not. If they increase the price by 68%, and it sells more, that's pretty much the definition. Our wholesale on 2008 vs. 2007 went up $13 a bottle. So, does this mean that any large increase in price falls squarely on the shoulders of retailers? That's a tough question. W...
by Kris Patten
September 18th, 2020, 6:20 pm
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: The Bourbon Thread
Replies: 3769
Views: 212777

Re: The Bourbon Thread

If you could only pick 1 between the Pappy's 15/20 and BTAC offerings, what would your top 3 choices be? Keeping in mind this would be to drink, not resale. I’ve never had Eagle Rare 17 and desperately want to so that would be my pick. Come to think of it I’ve not tried Wm Larue Weller yet. But for...
by Kris Patten
September 18th, 2020, 6:18 pm
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: The Bourbon Thread
Replies: 3769
Views: 212777

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Andrew K. wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 8:05 am
If you could only pick 1 between the Pappy's 15/20 and BTAC offerings, what would your top 3 choices be?

Keeping in mind this would be to drink, not resale.
Eagle Rare 17
Sazerac 18 year Rye
George T. Stagg
by Kris Patten
September 18th, 2020, 6:15 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?
Replies: 105
Views: 5402

Re: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?

Josh Grossman wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 6:35 am
Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 6:31 am
So the 2008 Veblen is good? 🤪
Time will tell... Hopefully not. If they increase the price by 68%, and it sells more, that's pretty much the definition.
Our wholesale on 2008 vs. 2007 went up $13 a bottle.
by Kris Patten
September 17th, 2020, 8:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?
Replies: 105
Views: 5402

Re: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?

So our favorite critic scored it 98 on two separate events. I’m excited, provided the price is “reasonable”. Most likely it will come out initially expensive and then work its way down. This is a high production wine. Lots to go around and minimal Restaraunt purchases It's 150k to 300k bottles how ...
by Kris Patten
September 17th, 2020, 7:56 pm
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: The Bourbon Thread
Replies: 3769
Views: 212777

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Kris knows bourbon better than most to be sure. And I’m on record as loving ER10. It’s my house pour. And makes a great cocktail. Very kind. We sell a lot of it, so I probably get to taste a lot and tell lots of people we don't have BTAC, Pappy, etc....but this is pretty close stylistically. I reme...
by Kris Patten
September 17th, 2020, 7:19 pm
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: The Bourbon Thread
Replies: 3769
Views: 212777

Re: The Bourbon Thread

If you like Blantons try Rock Hill Farm. It’s my favorite of theirs that isn’t BTAC. Way to pick one that is even harder to find! Little bit of Blanton's Gold will hit WA, I am sure everyone will mark it up standard retail...... I like regular Blanton’s more than the gold, and it really isn’t that ...
by Kris Patten
September 17th, 2020, 6:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?
Replies: 105
Views: 5402

Re: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?

William Kelley (Parker) just hung a 98 point score on it...... "the finest Comtes de Champagne since the brilliant 2002" Gave it the same score a year ago, so I don't think this is particularly revelatory! But it's true that I haven't left much space for the others... champagne.gif Any idea on 2008...
by Kris Patten
September 17th, 2020, 6:48 pm
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: Private Barrels have long jumped the shark???
Replies: 2
Views: 206

Re: Private Barrels have long jumped the shark???

http://brettatlas.com/be-smarter-buying-private-barrel-picks/ Once upon a time, a private selection sticker on a bottle of bourbon actually meant something. Private selections were made by people ‘in the know’, who could identify a honey barrel and deliver something exceptional when compared to the...
by Kris Patten
September 17th, 2020, 6:44 pm
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: The Bourbon Thread
Replies: 3769
Views: 212777

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Adam Noble wrote:
September 17th, 2020, 6:20 pm
If you like Blantons try Rock Hill Farm. It’s my favorite of theirs that isn’t BTAC.
Way to pick one that is even harder to find!

Little bit of Blanton's Gold will hit WA, I am sure everyone will mark it up standard retail......
by Kris Patten
September 17th, 2020, 6:19 pm
Forum: Epicurean Exploits - Food and Recipes
Topic: What did you cook tonight?
Replies: 1650
Views: 88475

Re: What did you cook tonight?

K_F_o_l_e_y wrote:
September 2nd, 2020, 12:35 pm
Cauliflower florets roasted at 750°F with dukkah, Aleppo peppers and tahini
That looks awesome? How did you prep it?
by Kris Patten
September 17th, 2020, 6:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2002 Domaine Fourrier Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Clos St. Jacques Vieille Vigne
Replies: 1
Views: 347

Re: TN: 2002 Domaine Fourrier Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Clos St. Jacques Vieille Vigne

I was buying all the wrong things in 2005!

Good to see others weren't.

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