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by Mark Golodetz
May 20th, 2019, 3:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: RIP André Lurton
Replies: 4
Views: 443

Re: RIP André Lurton

We took a tour of the chateau, and the highlight for me was a massive porphyry bath tub. It was magnificent, around 12 foot long, and the bathroom needed massive reinforcements to hold the weight. My memories of Andre are wonderful; the consummate gentleman who was a polite but brilliant businessman...
by Mark Golodetz
May 20th, 2019, 5:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1999 Domaine Dujac Chambolle-Musigny 1er Cru Les Gruenchers
Replies: 3
Views: 324

Re: TN: 1999 Domaine Dujac Chambolle-Musigny 1er Cru Les Gruenchers

c fu wrote:
May 19th, 2019, 8:17 pm
Such an underrated wine from dujac. Don’t think I’ve ever had a clunker, always so beautiful and tasty.
Agree; every time I taste his premiers together, it is my favorite, although perhaps less classically great than his others.
by Mark Golodetz
May 19th, 2019, 6:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Berserker's views on Neal Martin
Replies: 99
Views: 6436

Re: Berserker's views on Neal Martin

I think Neal is arguably the best pure wine writer, and I also like his palate. If I subscribe to another publication, it would be to Vinous purely to read Neal. His book on Pomerol is superb. I agree with William that I have absolutely no interest in his musical taste, but then his erstwhile boss, ...
by Mark Golodetz
May 18th, 2019, 1:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: If you have 250 or more btls in your cellar, why are u not on CT?
Replies: 99
Views: 2632

Re: If you have 250 or more btls in your cellar, why are u not on CT?

I was on Cellar Tracker for a year, and I think it is utterly brilliant. However, I transferred almost all my wine to a professional warehouse who keep inventory. It’s up to date and I do not have to plug in any numbers. I love the warehouse, the owners are friends. They are efficient and helpful, k...
by Mark Golodetz
May 16th, 2019, 1:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Robert Parker retires
Replies: 96
Views: 4295

Re: Robert Parker retires

I too learned an incredible amount from Parker’s writing. I found him less relevant as the years passed, but he was a force in the industry up until he relinquished control of the Advocate, and it’s strange to think that was only a decade ago. Like it or not, so much of modern winemaking is a produc...
by Mark Golodetz
May 16th, 2019, 8:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: OOPS! Diner gets wrong wine £4500 le Pin
Replies: 32
Views: 2348

Re: OOPS! Diner gets wrong wine £4500 le Pin

That's a pretty big oops, as Le Pin looks nothing like Pichon Lalande. Some customers I have called on have had servers pull a Beaucastel Hommage vs standard CdP for instance, so it happens. Bottle cost around $2500. Incredible PR value minimum $25k. (Best restaurant in NW England) Teasing the empl...
by Mark Golodetz
May 16th, 2019, 6:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Most Underrated Bordeaux?
Replies: 38
Views: 1685

Re: Most Underrated Bordeaux?

Ok, will bite. Beychevelle, although price is creeping up, Corbin, and Giscours (since 2010). Finally La Tour de By which I buy for everyday drinking
by Mark Golodetz
May 15th, 2019, 1:09 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Domaine Odoul-Coquard my favourite emerging Burgundy producer
Replies: 13
Views: 858

Re: Domaine Odoul-Coquard my favourite emerging Burgundy producer

Stas, Not sure why you are pushing so hard. I see the same recommendation on a Facebook group, another wine board and here. Sorry if I am reading too much into it, but could you please confirm that you have no connection to the winery. Dear Mark, To make it clear, I am not in wine trade and not the...
by Mark Golodetz
May 15th, 2019, 7:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Give up salt or give up wine?
Replies: 52
Views: 1462

Re: Give up salt or give up wine?

Ok, gentle people. Enough salt from products that contain it in small quantities to allow you to live. But I suspect you will be giving up seafood. And yes, this excludes salty products like soy sauce and Cheetos
by Mark Golodetz
May 15th, 2019, 5:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Give up salt or give up wine?
Replies: 52
Views: 1462

Re: Give up salt or give up wine?

Chris Tuttle wrote:
May 15th, 2019, 5:48 am
I think Mark meant salt anywhere, not added salt. Think how bad that would be! Forget ever having baked goods again. Fruits, veg, and unsalted meat. Hey, I'm almost there :) Those baked goods though....
Yes, salt period.
by Mark Golodetz
May 15th, 2019, 5:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Give up salt or give up wine?
Replies: 52
Views: 1462

Give up salt or give up wine?

There was an old questionnaire give up garlic or wine. That one was easy, garlic. But yesterday it came up, and my wife asked a much more difficult question. I am torn, but I think the answer would be wine.
by Mark Golodetz
May 14th, 2019, 8:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Favorite Bordeaux non vintage of the century
Replies: 69
Views: 2022

Re: Favorite Bordeaux non vintage of the century

Going back in the last century to 1970. 1975 Right Bank: absolutely killer vintage. 1978 a few goodies, but needed a pretty cool cellar 1979 poster child for underrated esp. Pomerol and Margaux but just beginning to fade 1981 Graves seems pretty good, and L’Evangile is outstanding. Otherwise nothing...
by Mark Golodetz
May 14th, 2019, 7:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Domaine Odoul-Coquard my favourite emerging Burgundy producer
Replies: 13
Views: 858

Re: Domaine Odoul-Coquard my favourite emerging Burgundy producer

Stas,
Not sure why you are pushing so hard. I see the same recommendation on a Facebook group, another wine board and here. Sorry if I am reading too much into it, but could you please confirm that you have no connection to the winery.
by Mark Golodetz
May 13th, 2019, 9:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Online wine auction offerings becoming sparse and pricey?
Replies: 50
Views: 2701

Re: Online wine auction offerings becoming sparse and pricey?

Prices for older wines from good vintages seem to be strong. This is where auctions have far better and more wines than most retailers.
by Mark Golodetz
May 13th, 2019, 1:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 02 dp p2 $399-thoughts?
Replies: 34
Views: 1871

Re: 02 dp p2 $399-thoughts?

Interesting; my merchant friend was offered a grand total of six bottles.
by Mark Golodetz
May 13th, 2019, 8:31 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Favorite Bordeaux non vintage of the century
Replies: 69
Views: 2022

Re: Favorite Bordeaux non vintage of the century

For my tastes, I've always enjoyed the 1988 vintage; the '88 Pichon Lalande was a wine I purchased at auction whenever I could find it. I love the '86, '96 and '98 vintages too, but those have always been very highly regarded vintages, at least for particular appellations. I don't think anyone woul...
by Mark Golodetz
May 13th, 2019, 5:16 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 02 dp p2 $399-thoughts?
Replies: 34
Views: 1871

Re: 02 dp p2 $399-thoughts?

Available today in London for $350 all in. 96 also still available in london for $390 all in. Tough to pick the 02 based on that narrow a price gap although I suspect the stock of 96s at that price won’t last long. I like the description of the p2. “Very good, but tight as old buggery”. Trying to d...
by Mark Golodetz
May 12th, 2019, 11:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?
Replies: 68
Views: 3301

Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

That is the first time I have heard somebody compare 2018 to 2014. It sounds as though you attended primeur, could you expand on that please
by Mark Golodetz
May 12th, 2019, 8:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The Comprehensive Hypothetical Napa Classified Growth Lists (and what we might consider to be the current cult wines)
Replies: 104
Views: 4071

Re: The Comprehensive Hypothetical Napa Classified Growth Lists (and what we might consider to be the current cult wines

You guys are tying yourselves into knots trying to get your parameters workable. But once you go with some arbitrary criteria, particularly age, you are going to lose so many wineries, so that the whole thing becomes meaningless. I would suggest that you should recognize that Napa is an older region...
by Mark Golodetz
May 11th, 2019, 10:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Bordeaux.
Replies: 267
Views: 13926

Re: 2018 Bordeaux.

[berserker.gif] Panos has a nice, thoughtful write up: https://wine-chronicles.com/blog/bdx18-barrel-hedonists/ I always liked him. He is always respectful and kind in his replies to people. He has a straight forward honest POV in his reports. He is also a pretty good taster. [berserker.gif]
by Mark Golodetz
May 11th, 2019, 10:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Favorite Bordeaux non vintage of the century
Replies: 69
Views: 2022

Re: Favorite Bordeaux non vintage of the century

I was thinking this century, but there are plenty of really good wines from underrated vintages in the last one available, so let’s include them too.
by Mark Golodetz
May 11th, 2019, 6:31 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Favorite Bordeaux non vintage of the century
Replies: 69
Views: 2022

Favorite Bordeaux non vintage of the century

I like 2008 and 2014, but also have enjoyed Right Bank 2001 and a 2004 and 2006.

Have not had enough post 2010s to comment, but the 2012s I have had, have been decent if lacking intensity.
Thoughts?
by Mark Golodetz
May 11th, 2019, 6:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?
Replies: 68
Views: 3301

Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

The Farr Vintners site said something about a 25% volume reduction in the release vs 2017. Futures games I think, combined with the aforementioned “demand”. I call bull$hit. There is absolutely not a single large Bordeaux estate that can claim a right to inflate prices based on low yields. Scarcity...
by Mark Golodetz
May 10th, 2019, 4:24 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Togni Vertical: 1983 to 1996
Replies: 24
Views: 913

Re: Togni Vertical: 1983 to 1996

Also a fan. The 1997 was one of the best wines I have ever had, and a recent 1994 was also superb. For those who enjoy Napa wines from the 1970s. Not sure they are 40 to 50 year old wines, but it will be interesting to see.

Nice tasting
by Mark Golodetz
May 10th, 2019, 7:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
Replies: 10907
Views: 486871

Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?

Just bought the 1985 CDR
by Mark Golodetz
May 10th, 2019, 6:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux
Replies: 45
Views: 1976

Re: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux

James,
I put them in the same category, not because I believe the quality is the similar, as clearly they are not, but because all three are classic vintages, as is 2016.

Also for most chateaux, I believe 2010 was more tannic than 2005.
by Mark Golodetz
May 10th, 2019, 5:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?
Replies: 68
Views: 3301

Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

I make no secret that all my Bordeaux purchases from the 2009 vintage on are for investment. I would be defying every actuarial table if I were able to drink them at prime maturity. I bought them for three reasons 1. I still enjoy the chase 2. My son can enjoy or sell them. My hope is he will drink ...
by Mark Golodetz
May 9th, 2019, 2:33 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The Comprehensive Hypothetical Napa Classified Growth Lists (and what we might consider to be the current cult wines)
Replies: 104
Views: 4071

Re: The Comprehensive Hypothetical Napa Classified Growth Lists (and what we might consider to be the current cult wines

I am not sure why you want to inflict a classification on the good wines of Napa. Far from being a good thing, the 1855 classified growths has held the region back. By making it about brand rather than land, it soon became totally out of date, and only survives because of entrenched interests that k...
by Mark Golodetz
May 9th, 2019, 1:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Important vs. Unimportant tastings
Replies: 39
Views: 1667

Re: Important vs. Unimportant tastings

A gentleman with differing views on wine to mine goes to see a doctor. The doctor gives him tests, and tells him the bad news. He goes home and puts on his tuxedo, and admires himself in the mirror His wife asks what him what the hell is going on. “The doctor tells me I am going to be impotent, so I...
by Mark Golodetz
May 9th, 2019, 8:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux
Replies: 45
Views: 1976

Re: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux

Not surprised your group found them similar. Both have incredible drive, and I loved the 2014s. But the 2016, with its greater ripeness (while never close to overripe) is more complete, and when they hit maturity, I would expect to see more nuance and complexity.
by Mark Golodetz
May 9th, 2019, 7:37 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux
Replies: 45
Views: 1976

Re: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux

Great notes. Thanks. Sounds like 2010. How would you rate these 2 vintages against each other. I didn't have enough 2010s to have a real basis for comparison. My own sense is that the fruit profile is a bit different in the '16s, and the acid may be a bit more conspicuous relative to the tannins. I...
by Mark Golodetz
May 9th, 2019, 5:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux
Replies: 45
Views: 1976

Re: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux

I am deep into my middle age.
I bought recently the Mouton as well as VCC, Ducru and Figeac, all of which I had purchased before, just adding to the numbers. I had also some small amounts of Canon, Montrose and Beychevelle. More deep than broad.
by Mark Golodetz
May 9th, 2019, 4:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux
Replies: 45
Views: 1976

Re: TN: An unimportant tasting of 2016 Bordeaux

Having tasted a few 2016s, I have gone back and bought heavily. Of all the recent vintages, dating back to 2009, and including by my count, at least four vintages of the century, I find that it is my favorite, and by some margin. This was even before opening the breathtaking 2016 Mouton, certainly t...
by Mark Golodetz
May 8th, 2019, 7:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: An important tasting of Chateaux Magdelaine and Bel-Air Monange, 1970-2014 with a 1971 Figeac "ringer"
Replies: 36
Views: 1552

Re: An important tasting of Chateaux Magdelaine and Bel-Air Monange, 1970-2014 with a 1971 Figeac "ringer"

Karl K wrote:
May 8th, 2019, 5:03 am
Thanks for the notes. I have had the 70 and have more bottles. Thinking about popping a 98 for experimentation as I need more exposure to younger versions of the wine.
Strange to think of a 21 year led Bordeaux as “younger” but that is certainly a hallmark of the property; they drink young.
by Mark Golodetz
May 7th, 2019, 8:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Issues w/ Wine Larder NYC merchant not fulfilling wine orders
Replies: 27
Views: 1843

Re: Issues w/ Wine Larder NYC merchant not fulfilling wine orders

I am still waiting on 2015 Canon from a major NYC store. The 2015s and 2016s have arrived at other stores.
by Mark Golodetz
May 6th, 2019, 8:33 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Issues w/ Wine Larder NYC merchant not fulfilling wine orders
Replies: 27
Views: 1843

Re: Issues w/ Wine Larder NYC merchant not fulfilling wine orders

c fu wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 7:57 pm
I’ve purchased before with no issues. Small internet based retailer. Hopefully this is resolved to your satisfaction adam
Yes; bought a couple of things, no issues at all.
by Mark Golodetz
May 6th, 2019, 2:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
Replies: 10907
Views: 486871

Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?

A bottle of JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr BA GK 1971
by Mark Golodetz
May 6th, 2019, 6:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: An important tasting of Chateaux Magdelaine and Bel-Air Monange, 1970-2014 with a 1971 Figeac "ringer"
Replies: 36
Views: 1552

Re: An important tasting of Chateaux Magdelaine and Bel-Air Monange, 1970-2014 with a 1971 Figeac "ringer"

Magdelaines are pretty special, and one of the great old fashioned Saint Emilions. I have a feeling that this is going to become a rare beast indeed, as people realize that there are, in fact, very few old fashioned Saint Emilions, and they are not being made an more. That being said, I have enough ...
by Mark Golodetz
May 6th, 2019, 6:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9715

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

I think this is a great point that is lost in this discussion. For those of us who are wine drinkers and not wine investors, it is much, much better that our favorite wines lose their luster and that prices for these wines become flat or go down in value. I wish that would happen with a lot of my f...
by Mark Golodetz
May 6th, 2019, 6:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9715

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

Count me as a huge fan of Guigal La La’s! Personally I am glad that prices on the secondary market have been relatively flat over the last 8 - 10 years, as this has created some wonderful buying opportunities at auction. I think this is a great point that is lost in this discussion. For those of us...
by Mark Golodetz
May 4th, 2019, 9:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Friday lunch with some serious classics
Replies: 9
Views: 1252

Re: Friday lunch with some serious classics

Thanks Gerhard
by Mark Golodetz
May 4th, 2019, 8:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Joseph Phelps...thoughts?
Replies: 23
Views: 1422

Re: Joseph Phelps...thoughts?

As someone who used to love the style of California Cabernets, and no fan of the modern, it is interesting how Phelps morphed from one to the other. They used to make iconic wines from the Eisele vineyards, and they were austere and beautiful, with a hint of sluttiness if you looked hard. It is hard...
by Mark Golodetz
May 4th, 2019, 5:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9715

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

When is the best time to drink La Tache or Mouton Rothschild, both wines raised in 100% new oak? About 30 years after the harvest if well stored. The La-La´s are not different. Mouton is often very oaky when young. I never hear complaints about the oak monster Mouton. Guigals La-La´s are different....
by Mark Golodetz
May 4th, 2019, 5:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are you buying white burg to cellar for 10+ yrs?
Replies: 66
Views: 2562

Re: Are you buying white burg to cellar for 10+ yrs?

I buy older white Burgundy at a local restaurant. Premier cru mainly, and a significant percentage are premoxed.

Let someone else take the risk.
by Mark Golodetz
May 4th, 2019, 5:18 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Friday lunch with some serious classics
Replies: 9
Views: 1252

Re: Friday lunch with some serious classics

MARK, FABULOUS! Can you project a future lifespan for the 1990 Chave, of course, stored in ideal cellar conditions? Thanks I hate to say it Donn, but if I buy older Chave, they are from Europe. They seem fresher and display greater depth than those American imports. Not sure why, Kermit was anal ab...
by Mark Golodetz
May 3rd, 2019, 7:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Friday lunch with some serious classics
Replies: 9
Views: 1252

Friday lunch with some serious classics

Today was a special Friday lunch where we asked everybody to dig deep into their cellars and bring a really special bottle. We lost a couple of people, and our gmax ialthough it has been promised in the near future. This meant all the wines were red, and as usual we went from young to old. Flight 1 ...
by Mark Golodetz
May 3rd, 2019, 6:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement
Replies: 237
Views: 9715

Re: Is Guigal a casualty of Parker’s retirement

I don't taste enough of them to comment on current quality. Regardless of their style, I think Chapoutier along with Penfolds must be the most impressive wine producers globally over the past 2 or 3 decades. Large holdings across multiple regions and top to bottom make good wine including some at t...
by Mark Golodetz
May 3rd, 2019, 4:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Bordeaux.
Replies: 267
Views: 13926

Re: 2018 Bordeaux.

No it ain’t. Prove it. [pillow-fight.gif]

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