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by David Patte
May 10th, 2021, 8:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Columbia River Gorge trip
Replies: 12
Views: 577

Re: Columbia River Gorge trip

Lots of good recommendations in this thread, but given that your palate preferences lean in Hiyu's direction, I'd suggest a few. Buona Notte is made by the former assistant winemaker at Hiyu, though in a cleaner/more consistent style, and is doing really interesting things. Analemma has been mentio...
by David Patte
May 9th, 2021, 10:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon
Replies: 288
Views: 23545

Re: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon

Sun Break is Editors choice. Nice! Berserkers already knew the story, we're making news, not reporting it! Wine Enthusiast Magazine Online: 10 Fabulous Oregon Pinot Noirs for Less than $30 | Wine Enthusiast. https://www.winemag.com/2021/05/07/oregon-pinot-noir-under-30/ Dang, I didn’t know about th...
by David Patte
May 7th, 2021, 7:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vermouth?
Replies: 94
Views: 3452

Re: Vermouth?

I can't imagine a good Vermouth lasting long enough to go bad. We even stock a sulphur free one in litre bottles that lasts on 5 days or so in the fridge and never gets beyond day 2. It's not that I wouldn't enjoy it or would have trouble consuming it. My problem is simply that I drink wine (tradit...
by David Patte
May 7th, 2021, 6:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vermouth?
Replies: 94
Views: 3452

Re: Vermouth?

I visited Noilly Pratt in the south of France a couple years ago. Quite an amazing operation and they have four kinds of Vermouth that we sampled, and then chose our favorite and got a glass of that. My was the rouge with a twist of orange peel. There is dry, extra dry (for the USA) rouge, and ambe...
by David Patte
May 6th, 2021, 5:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vermouth?
Replies: 94
Views: 3452

Re: Vermouth?

(*That’s my French Provençal/Alpine background; we would drink vermouth on ice as an aperitif wine with appetizers during the 6-ish period (because dinner was never earlier than 8pm— not quite the Spanish extreme.) My only addition is an occasional twist of lemon. The perfect way to shift from day ...
by David Patte
May 6th, 2021, 11:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vermouth?
Replies: 94
Views: 3452

Re: Vermouth?

Someone (the OP?) could make a fortune selling tiny bottles of vermouth....187ml or 250ml. It's tough to find (except Carpano Antico has the 375ml bottles), and I wind up throwing so much vermouth down the drain (or using the old stuff to marinate chicken or cook). Something to consider, thanks! Wi...
by David Patte
May 5th, 2021, 12:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vermouth?
Replies: 94
Views: 3452

Re: Vermouth?

I am preparing to launch a vermouth this year and we’ve been experimenting with different recipes. Fruit, floral, herbal and bitter botanicals + grape (Pinot Noir) brandy + rose’ wine (18% ABV). We want our vermouth to be delicious on its own as well being a great cocktail ingredient. Curious to kn...
by David Patte
May 2nd, 2021, 8:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Three OR pinot comparisons
Replies: 54
Views: 3021

Re: Three OR pinot comparisons

Lots to discuss here— regarding how/whether small OR wineries develop a house taste profile, it’s of course true to an extent based on the many wine making practices and decisions that will inevitably influence all the wines produced by a winery (use of whole cluster, % new oak, free run vs. press w...
by David Patte
May 1st, 2021, 8:46 am
Forum: Wine 101: The Basics
Topic: Purchasing wine (untasted) based on acidity, TA, brix, alcohol, etc.
Replies: 10
Views: 1938

Re: Purchasing wine (untasted) based on acidity, TA, brix, alcohol, etc.

As producers, we provide “tech sheets” to our distributors with all the lab results and some retailers will ask. Generally this would be confusing to most consumers so I tend to share technical stats. when I can put them in context, or if get a sense that a person has advanced wine knowledge and is ...
by David Patte
May 1st, 2021, 8:25 am
Forum: Wine 101: The Basics
Topic: I want to sample older vintages
Replies: 18
Views: 3769

Re: I want to sample older vintages

Lots of great advice already. As you discover certain regions and styles that you like, I would hone in on producers vs. vintage because the best producers always find a way to make great wines (that is actually one of the defining elements of great “terroir” or “grand cru” type winery status; the a...
by David Patte
April 19th, 2021, 8:50 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: **EXTENDED** Colette & Marie-Paule Willamette Valley Pinot Noir—>Up to 40% + Free Shipping
Replies: 50
Views: 2743

Re: **EXTENDED** Colette & Marie-Paule Willamette Valley Pinot Noir—>Up to 40% + Free Shipping

They provide contrasting styles to the 2019 Colette which is 100% destemmed and in barrel for only 10 months. Marie-Paule is vinified with destemmed and whole cluster fermentations and 16 months in barrel, and Ariane with 100% whole cluster and 16 months (among many other factors). I think the whol...
by David Patte
April 19th, 2021, 8:37 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon Trip
Replies: 17
Views: 1300

Re: Oregon Trip

I’m at the same facility with Saul: he and his wines are great! Good choice
by David Patte
April 18th, 2021, 4:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?
Replies: 88
Views: 3187

Re: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?

The only reason I would rack would be if I smell reductive characteristics in the wine - and in that case, you want oxidation to counter those chemical compounds and I there I would not use a 'bulldog' set up . . . Right. I am being advised to rack off the lees this year to avoid any potential grap...
by David Patte
April 18th, 2021, 11:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?
Replies: 88
Views: 3187

Re: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?

Are there ways to rack the wine without getting oxidation? Yes, you can push the liquid with inert gas, either Argon or Nitrogen. So as in theory no contact with oxygen. But most, at least on reds, just rack with oxygen contact. Depends on wine - if it's already reductive it can probably use the ox...
by David Patte
April 18th, 2021, 11:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?
Replies: 88
Views: 3187

Re: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?

Racking definitely can be used to 'clarify' a wine - think of it as 'decanting'. I choose not to rack my wines as I don't want to change the 'trajectory' of its aging prior to bottling. Cheers Are there ways to rack the wine without getting oxidation? If the wine has sufficient redox potential and ...
by David Patte
April 18th, 2021, 8:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?
Replies: 88
Views: 3187

Re: Where are we at on fining and filtration for reds, whites, and beyond?

Well I didn’t know about Barnivore and thanks for this info. After reading all the pros and cons on this thread, I think I’ll go ahead and register my wines and ciders on the website. Vegans have legitimate questions, and I don’t see the harm in registering the products— that seems easy. As an aside...
by David Patte
April 11th, 2021, 8:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021
Replies: 147
Views: 12009

Re: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021

Armand Heitz's point of view: https://armandheitz.com/blogs/le-carnet/lutter-contre-la-nature That is well-reasoned. One thing that no one wants to contemplate, however, is that the Beaufort Gyre in the Arctic is now impounding an enormous amount of very cold fresh water, more than the long-term av...
by David Patte
April 10th, 2021, 12:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Dirty & Rowdy Question- can I drink the 2019s?
Replies: 21
Views: 1220

Re: Dirty & Rowdy Question- can I drink the 2019s?

Always fun to try the wine on Day 2. If you prefer it on the second day, you will be rewarded by more bottle aging!
by David Patte
April 10th, 2021, 10:28 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021
Replies: 147
Views: 12009

Re: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021

I'm new to frost damage in wine, but given where we rae in the season, is this unrecoverable? It’s a good question. Vines and other plants have suppressed buds that will eventually take off and keep the plant alive. But flowering and fruiting will be delayed to such an extent that any possibility o...
by David Patte
April 10th, 2021, 9:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Breakage Using Pulp Wine Shippers
Replies: 49
Views: 1871

Re: Breakage Using Pulp Wine Shippers

I’ve had one breakage in all my shipments. I use wine shippers for my smaller 500ml cider bottles and that was the only time I had pan issue (I add extra paper wrapping, but apparently it wasn’t enough). The customer received a full refund...
by David Patte
April 10th, 2021, 9:16 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021
Replies: 147
Views: 12009

Re: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021

The problem is not -8°C at the start of April - per-se - the Burgundians have their ice-saint day and it's the 13th May after which they expect no more frosts. The problem is temperatures in the 20s in February - it's this that brings about the early growth and bud-burst. For generations, there hav...
by David Patte
April 10th, 2021, 9:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021
Replies: 147
Views: 12009

Re: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021

Armand Heitz's point of view: https://armandheitz.com/blogs/le-carnet/lutter-contre-la-nature It’s an important point of view but ... unfortunately it’s hard to imagine finding vines (or other plants) that can overcome very early season heat events (considered “extreme”, but becoming more commonpla...
by David Patte
April 9th, 2021, 7:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021
Replies: 147
Views: 12009

Re: Killer frosts again - Cote D'Or 2021

Terrible news. Seems ironic that with a changing climate (fewer overall frost days, longer growing season) frost damage increases (early bud break increases the risk). Lots of research on this such as https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... -2014-0282
by David Patte
April 7th, 2021, 8:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ponzi Vineyards purchased by Bollinger
Replies: 48
Views: 2324

Re: Ponzi Vineyards purchased by Bollinger

Wow. Nice to see that Luisa will continue in her role directing wine making and viticulture!

Yes, thanks for mentioned the micro-brewing. I loved hanging out at the old Bridgeport spot (before the renovation). So sad to see that close a few years ago....
by David Patte
April 7th, 2021, 8:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Solar powered generator for wine cellar backup
Replies: 32
Views: 1828

Re: Solar powered generator for wine cellar backup

Hi Alan, we have 36 solar panels and I’ve looked into solar battery backup systems that can power various circuits. That’s a great place to start— a solar energy provider. They can give you all the options for battery backup generation as they assess your solar panel capacity. ( I really should have...
by David Patte
April 1st, 2021, 7:35 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine's naturalistic fallacy
Replies: 151
Views: 7384

Re: Wine's naturalistic fallacy

I love your piece, William. As a relatively new wine maker that is not blessed (or cursed) with following a historic program at a family winery, I’ve had dozens to decisions to make. To illustrate your point: I had gathered experience from six winemaking experiences during my apprenticeship phase an...
by David Patte
March 28th, 2021, 7:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind
Replies: 160
Views: 8786

Re: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind

As Willamette Valley Pinot winemaker who is inspired by burgundy, there are a host of issues to discuss but first off, I think both regions will continue to do well and second we don’t directly compare due to a host of factors (below) and as mentioned, we don’t need to directly compete due to cost/...
by David Patte
March 28th, 2021, 7:31 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who is using DIAM?
Replies: 152
Views: 8919

Re: Who is using DIAM?

By the way, related to a previous comment in this thread, I’m sure the corks will last longer than the 3, 5, 10, and 30 year indicator, but these are premature oxidation guarantee dates by Diam. David, does this mean that Diam somehow warrants against premox to the producer? Curious how this works ...
by David Patte
March 27th, 2021, 1:03 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who is using DIAM?
Replies: 152
Views: 8919

Re: Who is using DIAM?

What is holding all the pieces of cork together in a DIAM closure? "A beeswax emulsion and binding agent composed of 100% plant-derived polyols." https://www.diam-closures.com/#innovation This is true for Diam Origine only— I did use these one year. They are much more expensive but sadly,...
by David Patte
March 27th, 2021, 12:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Who is using DIAM?
Replies: 152
Views: 8919

Re: Who is using DIAM?

There is only Diam 5, 10 and 30. They refer to the density of the corks and, theoretically the years of the viability of the cork. They are like pieces of cement right out of the bag. This is straight from an email with one of their sales managers: Basically we offer 3 different OTR: - Diam 3 has a...
by David Patte
March 27th, 2021, 8:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind
Replies: 160
Views: 8786

Re: Oregon will eventually be better than Burgundy; change my mind

As Willamette Valley Pinot winemaker who is inspired by burgundy, there are a host of issues to discuss but first off, I think both regions will continue to do well and second we don’t directly compare due to a host of factors (below) and as mentioned, we don’t need to directly compete due to cost/r...
by David Patte
March 24th, 2021, 8:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: IDTT 483: Levi Dalton on Accomasso (sort of)
Replies: 65
Views: 3560

Re: IDTT 483: Levi Dalton on Accomasso (sort of)

Levi's contributions through his podcast place him in the top rank of those contributing to our understanding of wine and viticulture around the world. They are also quite entertaining. I am grateful to hear he is producing shows again. Agreed! I listen to French wine podcasts as well, and I’ll Dri...
by David Patte
March 24th, 2021, 8:02 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: IDTT 483: Levi Dalton on Accomasso (sort of)
Replies: 65
Views: 3560

Re: IDTT 483: Levi Dalton on Accomasso (sort of)

Yes, a lame effort. Pales in comparison to all the other podcast episodes from all the other shows that feature Lorenzo Accomasso in English. Sad, really. Hey, you did a great job— I learned a lot. My French and U.S. schooling skipped over the details of Italian history : ). As for the the wine mak...
by David Patte
March 23rd, 2021, 7:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Trip to burgundy--help needed
Replies: 25
Views: 1950

Re: Trip to burgundy--help needed

We have been many times. Beautiful and inspiring. If you want to search for places to stay off of Google, the French find their house rentals on the “Gîtes de France” website. There’s an app also, Gîtes et Chambres D’hôtes” As for Château’s, they may not be very close and keep in mind that they are ...
by David Patte
March 22nd, 2021, 2:58 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?
Replies: 136
Views: 9773

Re: Oregon trip in march: what wine town to stay in?

We used to live in NW Portland close to Forest Park. For a hike there that only the neighborhood knows about, find the Holman Lane entrance and loop down to Balch Creek, and climb back through the gorgeous Willamette Heights neighborhood full of restored, early 1900 homes and mansions. Check the For...
by David Patte
March 20th, 2021, 9:06 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: **EXTENDED** Colette & Marie-Paule Willamette Valley Pinot Noir—>Up to 40% + Free Shipping
Replies: 50
Views: 2743

Re: **EXTENDED** Colette & Marie-Paule Willamette Valley Pinot Noir—>Up to 40% + Free Shipping

Every part of dealing with Sun Break, especially drinking David's wine, has been wonderful. Looking forward to drinking a lot more of his wine in the years to come... Thanks, Max! Hey, I bottled three 2019 Pinot Noirs on March 2, in addition to the white and rosé that we announced on the e-mail lis...
by David Patte
March 16th, 2021, 8:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Cellar construction in MA
Replies: 15
Views: 1056

Re: Wine Cellar construction in MA

Hi Joe, before spending a great deal of effort and $ to limit humidity check out the aerocide. You do need a fair level of humidity for a good cellar (70% is ideal, right?) but without the mold. The aerocide is an air purifier that handles mold spores (and other air born organisms and VOCs): https:/...
by David Patte
March 13th, 2021, 8:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Shout out for Vincent Pinot Gris (noir)
Replies: 10
Views: 433

Re: Shout out for Vincent Pinot Gris (noir)

Big fan of this wine. (I am very fortunate to make wine at Vincent’s co-op style winery and get to see how this is made and taste the resulting wine. So interesting to see a new style of red wine from Pinot Gris— turns out there are plenty of phenolics there!)
by David Patte
March 1st, 2021, 7:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2008 Oregon Dundee Hilltop: Eyrie Daphne vs. White Rose Vineyard
Replies: 16
Views: 897

Re: TN: 2008 Oregon Dundee Hilltop: Eyrie Daphne vs. White Rose Vineyard

Thanks for these notes. That is odd about the White Rose. The winery’s tech sheet says only 14% new oak barrels. So then I thought perhaps it could be the whole cluster (they famously often use 100% whole cluster on many/most cuvées) but this cuvée only saw 20% whole cluster. I can only surmise tha...
by David Patte
February 26th, 2021, 11:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2008 Oregon Dundee Hilltop: Eyrie Daphne vs. White Rose Vineyard
Replies: 16
Views: 897

Re: TN: 2008 Oregon Dundee Hilltop: Eyrie Daphne vs. White Rose Vineyard

Thanks for these notes. That is odd about the White Rose. The winery’s tech sheet says only 14% new oak barrels. So then I thought perhaps it could be the whole cluster (they famously often use 100% whole cluster on many/most cuvées) but this cuvée only saw 20% whole cluster. I can only surmise that...
by David Patte
February 20th, 2021, 5:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oregon aging rule of thumb
Replies: 146
Views: 9672

Re: Oregon aging rule of thumb

Marcus, thanks for your input and insights. Now how can I procure back vintages of your PN's? [cheers.gif] We did a small library sale last November, from the limited amount of wines in the early library. I think we have a few things from that. I also promised another Berserker that I would dig aro...
by David Patte
February 15th, 2021, 12:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Acidity in Wine
Replies: 18
Views: 1195

Re: Acidity in Wine

It's always interesting to me seeing people talk about acidifying wine, when I spend most of my time worrying about quite the opposite. I wrote an article last year that covered deacidification after fermentation. It is truly amazing how different each acid tastes and feels in the mouth at varying ...
by David Patte
February 15th, 2021, 11:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon
Replies: 288
Views: 23545

Re: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon

I think we've been a little loose on this, but generally I think we're keeping it under about 2,000 or so. There have been some exceptions. Everything is updated for now! That makes sense: I know that Lumos and Dominio IV for example are above 1000 cases (I interned there) but below 2000-ish Lumos ...
by David Patte
February 12th, 2021, 7:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Acidity in Wine
Replies: 18
Views: 1195

Re: Acidity in Wine

It's always interesting to me seeing people talk about acidifying wine, when I spend most of my time worrying about quite the opposite. I wrote an article last year that covered deacidification after fermentation. It is truly amazing how different each acid tastes and feels in the mouth at varying ...
by David Patte
February 10th, 2021, 8:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What Causes The "Cola" Aroma in Some Pinot Noirs?
Replies: 60
Views: 3687

Re: What Causes The "Cola" Aroma in Some Pinot Noirs?

I've found it appears mostly in ripe Pinot Noirs with some new oak. I feel like it is a combination of Pinot fruit and new oak that creates the impression, since very rarely I get the same kind of impression from other wines that are otherwise similarly oaky. They are just "oaky" but don'...
by David Patte
February 10th, 2021, 7:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers
Replies: 262
Views: 14271

Re: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers

Great thread. At WineBid we are always looking for environmentally friendly and cost effective alternatives, as well as possibly offering a higher end offering at a fee for more eco-friendly packaging. Interesting fact that I have learned though: the amount of energy, wood and water it takes to cre...
by David Patte
February 8th, 2021, 6:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon
Replies: 288
Views: 23545

Re: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon

Todd Hamina wrote: January 3rd, 2021, 2:32 pm I encourage you all to go check out the link #teenytinywineriesoforegon on Instagram to see what some of the off the radar folks are up to these days. There are some great wineries that don't get pimped out (yet) for you to discover. Cheers!
I’ll start using the hashtag, Todd. Thanks !
by David Patte
February 7th, 2021, 1:15 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon
Replies: 288
Views: 23545

Re: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon

Will get to adding the new ones on tomorrow, think I'm a week or two behind! That damn Berserker Day, taking all my attention... That’s a good place to focus [cheers.gif] And I thought of more: Mylan Wines (how did I leave my nephew off the first list? : ). and JP Cellars. I have a few more in mind...
by David Patte
February 7th, 2021, 8:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon
Replies: 288
Views: 23545

Re: Teeny Tiny Wineries of... Oregon

I nominate Libertine Wines. Alex N. is a pretty cool dude making some pretty esoteric, great stuff. He joined us at the Vincent-led, Championship Bottle, Sun Break co-op space (former Grochau Cellars and Brooks space, etc, etc) Will get to adding the new ones on tomorrow, think I'm a week or two be...
by David Patte
February 6th, 2021, 5:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Whole bunch in burgundy
Replies: 73
Views: 4753

Re: Whole bunch in burgundy

No ... but.... I have heard of vignerons who destem, keep the stems and add a certain amount back into a fermentation for various reasons (a couple of interviews on “I’ll Drink to That” podcast). They would assess the early fermentation and add a bit. Given the logistics, this would only work if a ...

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