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by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 17th, 2020, 5:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Underrated Burgundy Vintages
Replies: 45
Views: 1188

Re: Underrated Burgundy Vintages

I'm less confident making that call on 2005, as I have some concerns that it might go the way of 96 (though I really hope I'm wrong). I also think 2016 is a great vintage, personally. With that set of preferences you’d think you’d be all over 13. Why? Less ripe, complex, probably will age well, goo...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 17th, 2020, 12:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Underrated Burgundy Vintages
Replies: 45
Views: 1188

Re: Underrated Burgundy Vintages

My feeling about recent vintages is this. 1999, 2005 (I hope) and 2010 are the great vintages. I'm less confident making that call on 2005, as I have some concerns that it might go the way of 96 (though I really hope I'm wrong). I also think 2016 is a great vintage, personally. With that set of pre...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 17th, 2020, 10:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Underrated Burgundy Vintages
Replies: 45
Views: 1188

Re: Underrated Burgundy Vintages

Yeah I think 13 is going to end up being pretty good and hope so as I have quite a lot of it. I don’t think it’s underrated, though, as I think most ppl thought it’d be good but not great. 12 may end up being better than 09 or 15 for those who prefer leaner wines (compared to those two vintages)
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 17th, 2020, 5:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Underrated Burgundy Vintages
Replies: 45
Views: 1188

Underrated Burgundy Vintages

What will we see as underrated in time?

For me: 07, 12, 14, 17
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 17th, 2020, 5:26 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2015 Domaine Henri Gouges Nuits St. Georges
Replies: 5
Views: 303

Re: TN: 2015 Domaine Henri Gouges Nuits St. Georges

If you like the style it’s a great value.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 16th, 2020, 7:09 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1997 Anniversary Wines - Recommendations?
Replies: 57
Views: 1790

Re: 1997 Anniversary Wines - Recommendations?

1997 Chave Hermitage Ready to drink. Olive tapenade and garrique on the nose. Well integrated, elegant, soft tannins. Certainly Syrah, but not necessarily northern Rhône feeling. Slightly glossy and polished. Gained in power over an hour in glass. I liked this a lot but didn’t love it. Intellectuall...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 16th, 2020, 5:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1997 Anniversary Wines - Recommendations?
Replies: 57
Views: 1790

Re: 1997 Anniversary Wines - Recommendations?

I wasn’t a huge fan of the 97 Chave hermitage I opened last year.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 16th, 2020, 3:03 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Red Burgs - time to crack a few!
Replies: 44
Views: 2724

Re: 2018 Red Burgs - time to crack a few!

Although I have north of 500 bottles of 2018 Burg in the cellar or on the way, the Lion's Share are all white. Maybe I missed some, but I don't think most of the Reds have been released yet. Basically the only GC I have is the MM GE. you have close to 40 cases of whites in one vintage ? I wish you ...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 15th, 2020, 6:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNs from tonight: Krug 164, Laurent Roumier, Sauternes
Replies: 1
Views: 299

Re: TNs from tonight: Krug 164, Laurent Roumier, Sauternes

I may try to seek out some more Laurent Roumier but it doesn’t seem like it’s all that common.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 14th, 2020, 9:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1997 Anniversary Wines - Recommendations?
Replies: 57
Views: 1790

Re: Auctions

97 Jadot (gagey) Clos St Denis
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 14th, 2020, 8:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNs from tonight: Krug 164, Laurent Roumier, Sauternes
Replies: 1
Views: 299

TNs from tonight: Krug 164, Laurent Roumier, Sauternes

Back home in WI and I decided to open a few bottles I had in long term storage. Krug 164: The mighty Krug 164 is again monumental. Lemon zest and brioche on the nose, rich palate presence with ample acidity, lovely finish. Multi-decade aging potential and it’ll continue to get better but is fantasti...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 14th, 2020, 2:41 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
Replies: 14412
Views: 706006

Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?

2000 Pierre Amiot CdlR
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 14th, 2020, 6:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Dirty and Rowdy Fall Release
Replies: 76
Views: 3365

Re: Dirty and Rowdy Fall Release

In for 6 legends 2 evangelho 2 Syrah 2 zin
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 13th, 2020, 4:58 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?
Replies: 79
Views: 4193

Re: At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?

I’ll probably buy some more regardless of price; the term boycott is used here like the term defund has been used lately.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 11th, 2020, 4:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
Replies: 14412
Views: 706006

Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?

Lignier msd vv 17

Jim that sigalas is great.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 11th, 2020, 1:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2014 Mugneret-Gibourg Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Les Chaignots
Replies: 67
Views: 3188

Re: TN: 2014 Mugneret-Gibourg Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Les Chaignots

I paid ~25% less than those prices at the most.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 11th, 2020, 10:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2014 Mugneret-Gibourg Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Les Chaignots
Replies: 67
Views: 3188

Re: TN: 2014 Mugneret-Gibourg Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Les Chaignots

I think there are vast variations in the pricing of the Lignier wines, specfically the MSD VV and CDLR, in my experience. I've generally been able to find stuff for low prices with some work and a decent war chest for wine purchases.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 11th, 2020, 9:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Fires-Oregon
Replies: 130
Views: 9571

Re: Fires-Oregon

Is 981 even compatible w life?
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 11th, 2020, 7:18 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2014 Mugneret-Gibourg Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Les Chaignots
Replies: 67
Views: 3188

Re: TN: 2014 Mugneret-Gibourg Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Les Chaignots

Not sure I understand the vitriol towards “cherry-picking”. Why you should buy wines you don’t want to get wines you do want at somewhat lower prices? For example; I was offered a number of “allocations” of 17 Lignier that includes a six pack of village wines along with random premier crus with two ...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 11th, 2020, 3:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Red Burgs - time to crack a few!
Replies: 44
Views: 2724

Re: 2018 Red Burgs - time to crack a few!

In short, yes. You just really taste the sunshine. The 2018 vintage experienced 290 more sunlight hours (i.e. about 30% more) between May and September than the average. Plenty of producers overcame the risk of making rustic monsters, but it's much harder to overcome the sucrosity of fruit that I'd...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 10th, 2020, 7:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2014 Ultramarine Blanc de Blancs
Replies: 1
Views: 218

TN: 2014 Ultramarine Blanc de Blancs

Clearly not champagne and clearly spectacular. There were notes of crisp Granny Smith apples on the nose, with some savory elements, along with crisp and super precise acidity on the lifted, weightless palate, with a super long finish. Tremendous wine. So interesting how different this is compared t...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 10th, 2020, 7:15 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ultramarine Email
Replies: 151
Views: 9162

Re: Ultramarine Email

Maxing out is a no brainer
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 10th, 2020, 5:00 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ultramarine Email
Replies: 151
Views: 9162

Re: Ultramarine Email

Opened a 14 BDB tonight; this is really singing, TN later.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 10th, 2020, 1:58 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Just out: the stunning Bollinger VZ15
Replies: 3
Views: 413

Re: Just out: the stunning Bollinger VZ15

Picked up a couple
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 10th, 2020, 6:56 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Red Burgs - time to crack a few!
Replies: 44
Views: 2724

Re: 2018 Red Burgs - time to crack a few!

I’ve been a fan of the ones I’ve opened so far, mostly Marc Roy.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 9th, 2020, 9:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best deal/coupon for on-line wine shopping.
Replies: 1538
Views: 147249

Re: Best deal/coupon for on-line wine shopping.

I haven’t even used the last 3 yet; I bought 2 cases of the 168 halves from them already for 60 per all in. With the stewardship it’s definitely the best price online. I think that depends on state. In California, I thought they were $90, so couldn’t get it down enough to make it a buy for me. Was ...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 9th, 2020, 5:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The Official MacDonald Waitlist Thread
Replies: 68
Views: 9327

Re: The Official MacDonald Waitlist Thread

Fwiw I think 16 Macdonald is now the highest rated wine on ct.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 6:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2014 Red Burgundy
Replies: 58
Views: 4443

Re: 2014 Red Burgundy

Let me get this straight, 2017 has been in the market for about one year and you’ve already opened and consumed 120 bottles? Yep; I drink almost exclusively burgundy, much of it young. That estimate is probably on the low side. Prolific consumption of a single vintage, I’m going to put you on a ped...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 4:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Fires-Oregon
Replies: 130
Views: 9571

Re: Fires-Oregon

I heard Portland lost power last night?

Personally I don’t think you guys have to minimize what you’re going through even if the scale is smaller than CA. Fires are scary no matter where they are.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 4:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How good is the 2008 vintage in BURGUNDY
Replies: 37
Views: 2816

Re: How good is the 2008 vintage in BURGUNDY

One of the nicest bottles I have had to date was earlier this year - 2008 Barthod Chambolle. Super nice. NOOB tasting note warning: Color had some brick but no sediment. Absolutely delightful. Beautiful beautiful beautiful nose with shrooms, earth, and the fruit trying to claw its way out of the gl...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 4:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2014 Red Burgundy
Replies: 58
Views: 4443

Re: 2014 Red Burgundy

The vast majority of 17 is wide open. I’ve drank more than 10 cases of village, 1er, and grand cru 17 burg and less than a handful were tight, usually the ones you’d expect (barthod) Let me get this straight, 2017 has been in the market for about one year and you’ve already opened and consumed 120 ...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 3:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2014 Red Burgundy
Replies: 58
Views: 4443

Re: 2014 Red Burgundy

I have a theory that the 13s are going to be early drinkers and are potentially quite a bit better in general than their reputation would suggest. This is, admittedly, based on a relatively small number of bottles that I've tried from great producers - Liger Belair, Rousseau etc... Would be interes...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 2:34 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Lopawines.com Thread
Replies: 172
Views: 15290

Re: Lopawines.com Thread

The peters stuff was interesting but decided to pass after ultramarine this am
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 12:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2014 Red Burgundy
Replies: 58
Views: 4443

Re: 2014 Red Burgundy

I have a theory that the 13s are going to be early drinkers and are potentially quite a bit better in general than their reputation would suggest. This is, admittedly, based on a relatively small number of bottles that I've tried from great producers - Liger Belair, Rousseau etc... Would be interes...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 9:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares
Replies: 18
Views: 642

Re: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares

Jayson Cohen wrote:
September 8th, 2020, 9:18 am
Michael, you can PM me and Greg, and I’m sure that we will take your MG Feusselottes off your hands at the bargain basement prices that wine merits.
Don’t own any, sorry
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 9:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ultramarine Email
Replies: 151
Views: 9162

Re: Ultramarine Email

In for 3/3 + one of each 12 LD; I’ve had the 10 LD before at the ultramarine dinner at majordomo and it’s fantastic; excited to try the 12.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 6:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares
Replies: 18
Views: 642

Re: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares

Not too much a fan of any of the lignier wines outside morey. Hubert’s 16 Chambolles are really good, though they’re a more muscular style than one might expect from Chambolle. I’ve only really had some of the village stuff but wasn’t impressed. Haven’t been a fan of even high quality non-Chambolle...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 6:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2014 Red Burgundy
Replies: 58
Views: 4443

Re: 2014 Red Burgundy

The vast majority of 17 is wide open. I’ve drank more than 10 cases of village, 1er, and grand cru 17 burg and less than a handful were tight, usually the ones you’d expect (barthod)
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 5:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2014 Red Burgundy
Replies: 58
Views: 4443

Re: 2014 Red Burgundy

I think 17s are in their sweet spot atm. After opening that Drouhin Laroze Beze that was shut down hard, I’m staying away from 14s for at least a couple yrs.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 8th, 2020, 5:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares
Replies: 18
Views: 642

Re: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares

Not too much a fan of any of the lignier wines outside morey.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 7th, 2020, 6:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2017 Michel Gros Vosne Romanee 1er Clos de Reas
Replies: 0
Views: 128

TN: 2017 Michel Gros Vosne Romanee 1er Clos de Reas

Simply fantastic showing tonight. A perfect young Vosne which had it all going on. Some soy, allspice, and earth on the nose, ripe fruits and some crisp acidity on the palate, and a very long finish. Just brilliant.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 7th, 2020, 5:52 pm
Forum: Epicurean Exploits - Food and Recipes
Topic: Another Flannery PSA
Replies: 525
Views: 33087

Re: Another Flannery PSA

Made a Flannery tri tip on the egg tonight; turned out pretty great. Did a fast smoke for an hour at 310 dome or so, then 1 min a side at 550-600 open, then 15 sec sear of each slice, pretty awesome.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 7th, 2020, 5:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares
Replies: 18
Views: 642

Re: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares

I had 2 bottles of '12 CSD in December (so not that recently) side by side at a dinner with a dozen people (and lots of other bottles). From memory, one bottle was advanced and drank like it had 20 years on it. Was gorgeous with lots of sous bois, fallen leaf like notes, fruit still in a good place...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 7th, 2020, 3:08 pm
Forum: Epicurean Exploits - Food and Recipes
Topic: Chef’s Table BBQ
Replies: 40
Views: 1581

Re: Chef’s Table BBQ

Making a tri tip tonight; chefs table bbq made me ponder making a wood fire pit haha
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 7th, 2020, 3:01 pm
Forum: Epicurean Exploits - Food and Recipes
Topic: Chef’s Table BBQ
Replies: 40
Views: 1581

Re: Chef’s Table BBQ

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
September 7th, 2020, 7:03 am
Sidney is an awfully long way away and I hate air travel but 203 day dry aged...
APL has some super long dry aged steak a lil closer.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 7th, 2020, 2:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares
Replies: 18
Views: 642

Re: TN: 2013 Georges Lignier et Fils Bonnes Mares

I had 2 bottles of '12 CSD in December (so not that recently) side by side at a dinner with a dozen people (and lots of other bottles). From memory, one bottle was advanced and drank like it had 20 years on it. Was gorgeous with lots of sous bois, fallen leaf like notes, fruit still in a good place...
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 7th, 2020, 11:48 am
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: PSA: calvados
Replies: 25
Views: 923

Re: PSA: calvados

Serious brandy fb group is also very useful.
by Mich@el Ch@ng
September 7th, 2020, 11:39 am
Forum: Beer and Spirits
Topic: PSA: calvados
Replies: 25
Views: 923

Re: PSA: calvados

Thanks! You've been very helpful answering my questions here and via PM. Is the wood dramatically more dominant in the 25 than in the 18? Hard to get a handle on Williams palette, trying to understand it thgouth Cognac, which I'm more familiar. I liked his Delamian reviews (Tres Venerable not clear...

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