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by Jayson Cohen
March 27th, 2020, 6:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?
Replies: 274
Views: 7558

Re: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?

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by Jayson Cohen
March 27th, 2020, 6:24 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural wine - now an officially recognized designation in France
Replies: 51
Views: 1200

Re: Well....

On optical sorting and narrow ripeness range, that’s not different, except maybe as a matter of degree/precision, from picking different vines at the different times depending on ripening or sorting by subplots and vinifying them separately or deciding to use or not use shot grapes or crop thinning...
by Jayson Cohen
March 27th, 2020, 12:47 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Your Favorite Wines Inroduced to You by a Fellow Board Member - Top 3-5?
Replies: 88
Views: 4301

Re: Your Favorite Wines Inroduced to You by a Fellow Board Member - Top 3-5?

I had intended to post to this thread back when it first appeared but got busy/sidetracked. It's fun tracing some history. I see Alfert gives credit to Salil for introducing him to Baudry. I was the one who introduced Salil to Baudry and nathan vandergrift is the one who introduced me to them. So R...
by Jayson Cohen
March 27th, 2020, 12:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Your Favorite Wines Inroduced to You by a Fellow Board Member - Top 3-5?
Replies: 88
Views: 4301

Re: Your Favorite Wines Inroduced to You by a Fellow Board Member - Top 3-5?

Jay, I was surprised Baudry was Nathan for you, not Dressner or Jeff Connell or Andrew Scott. It is surprising but while I read positive notes from several I finally gave them a go when nathan posted about a good price at some store near him which had 96s and 97s (97 was the curren release) and I o...
by Jayson Cohen
March 27th, 2020, 12:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Your Favorite Wines Inroduced to You by a Fellow Board Member - Top 3-5?
Replies: 88
Views: 4301

Re: Your Favorite Wines Inroduced to You by a Fellow Board Member - Top 3-5?

Jay, I was surprised Baudry was Nathan for you, not Dressner or Jeff Connell or Andrew Scott.
by Jayson Cohen
March 27th, 2020, 12:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Your Favorite Wines Inroduced to You by a Fellow Board Member - Top 3-5?
Replies: 88
Views: 4301

Re: Your Favorite Wines Inroduced to You by a Fellow Board Member - Top 3-5?

I had intended to post to this thread back when it first appeared but got busy/sidetracked. It's fun tracing some history. I see Alfert gives credit to Salil for introducing him to Baudry. I was the one who introduced Salil to Baudry and nathan vandergrift is the one who introduced me to them. So R...
by Jayson Cohen
March 26th, 2020, 6:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What red and white Burgundies are currently in your cellar - by vintage
Replies: 54
Views: 1276

Re: What red and white Burgundies are currently in your cellar - by vintage

I thought 2018 Rollin PV Sous Fretille a couple weeks ago (thanks, Greg K) was quite lovely after a bit of air but much less structured and deep and ultimately a little less interesting than a vintage like 2014, which is the complete package (Corton Charlemagne like as the CW goes). I own a couple b...
by Jayson Cohen
March 26th, 2020, 5:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vintages that have surprised you to the upside
Replies: 58
Views: 1640

Re: Vintages that have surprised you to the upside

Howard, I wouldn’t think 1985 Bordeaux would qualify as a real surprise. Maybe that such a forward vintage would age so well and become so interesting? I’ve had many excellent examples in the last few years that I felt are on a long plateau of deliciousness. Real surprises for me to the upside amon...
by Jayson Cohen
March 26th, 2020, 2:56 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural wine - now an officially recognized designation in France
Replies: 51
Views: 1200

Re: Natural wine - now an officially recognized designation in France

Thanks for the translation. So it looks the following is ok: - any vineyard technique pre-harvest that qualifies as organic - sorting methods that are not brutal and traumatic - cellar- or vessel-based temperature control during vinification (?) Some (obvious?) questions to which there may already b...
by Jayson Cohen
March 26th, 2020, 1:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural wine - now an officially recognized designation in France
Replies: 51
Views: 1200

Re: Well....

I also can’t see why an optical or automated sorting table is different than hand selection - that seems like purely philosophical nonsense. It might be philosophical nonsense, but in practicality those are often used to select for a very narrow ripeness range. It's used to push ripeness and make t...
by Jayson Cohen
March 26th, 2020, 12:35 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vintages that have surprised you to the upside
Replies: 58
Views: 1640

Re: Vintages that have surprised you to the upside

2011 N Rhône: that’s another one it’s hard to say is a surprise given how delicious they always were. Maybe the surprise (which I think we have discussed in other threads) is some of them (like Gonon and Juge) never shut down despite seeming to have decent structure.
by Jayson Cohen
March 26th, 2020, 11:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural wine - now an officially recognized designation in France
Replies: 51
Views: 1200

Re: Well....

Well, David/Otto...my questions are only partly TFIC. I would argue the netting for birds is a manipulation. I asked a local distributor of "natural" wines if putting grapes thru a sorting table, where they come in contact with hard plastic or metal tables and peoples hands, was a manipulaton. "No"...
by Jayson Cohen
March 26th, 2020, 8:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vintages that have surprised you to the upside
Replies: 58
Views: 1640

Re: Vintages that have surprised you to the upside

Howard, I wouldn’t think 1985 Bordeaux would qualify as a real surprise. Maybe that such a forward vintage would age so well and become so interesting? I’ve had many excellent examples in the last few years that I felt are on a long plateau of deliciousness. Real surprises for me to the upside amon...
by Jayson Cohen
March 25th, 2020, 5:33 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural wine - now an officially recognized designation in France
Replies: 51
Views: 1200

Re: Natural wine - now an officially recognized designation in France

So how long until a French winemaker denied the designation for Reason Whatever labels the denied wine as “Unnatural”?
by Jayson Cohen
March 25th, 2020, 5:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vintages that have surprised you to the upside
Replies: 58
Views: 1640

Re: Vintages that have surprised you to the upside

Howard, I wouldn’t think 1985 Bordeaux would qualify as a real surprise. Maybe that such a forward vintage would age so well and become so interesting? I’ve had many excellent examples in the last few years that I felt are on a long plateau of deliciousness. Real surprises for me to the upside among...
by Jayson Cohen
March 25th, 2020, 10:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1401

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

I have not yet tried the Roilette, it’s been a yearly buy for me since the 2007 vintage, but 2018 flew off the shelves. Big props from the Uber-critics like William and also some key posters for this region, like Jayson Cohen. Honored. Undeserving. Also I was touting ‘17 Griffe although for an ‘18 ...
by Jayson Cohen
March 23rd, 2020, 12:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: First wine I've opened to drink at home in months (maybe a year): 2000 Dauvissat Clos
Replies: 34
Views: 1734

Re: First wine I've opened to drink at home in months (maybe a year): 2000 Dauvissat Clos

Right, and a half bottle at 19 years is probably not 'pre' mox, but just oxidized, I think that's her point, and I agree yep. disagree. It is premature. Maybe it's right for waxy white rhones tho 2000 Clos and Preuses out of 750 were both poxed IMO, which was evident years ago. I unfortunately have...
by Jayson Cohen
March 21st, 2020, 7:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2016 Dirty and Rowdy Mourvèdre Shake Ridge Ranch
Replies: 2
Views: 164

Re: TN: 2016 Dirty and Rowdy Mourvèdre Shake Ridge Ranch

2016 Dirty and Rowdy Mourvèdre Shake Ridge Ranch - USA, California, Sierra Foothills, Amador County (3/21/2020) Opened for the Dirty & Rowdy virtual tasting of Shake Ridge Ranch Mourvèdre, as I did not yet receive my 2018. So glad I opened this, as it was absolutely smoking! Open for business witho...
by Jayson Cohen
March 5th, 2020, 12:20 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Tete de cuvee roses
Replies: 28
Views: 1182

Re: Tete de cuvee roses

It's part scarcity (or Veblen goods effect), part costlier to produce and part more difficult to produce in Champagne. The two former ones have been already covered, so I guess it's good to talk about the latter on as well. In order to make good rosé in Champagne, you need to have red grapes that a...
by Jayson Cohen
March 5th, 2020, 11:34 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Tete de cuvee roses
Replies: 28
Views: 1182

Re: Tete de cuvee roses

It's part scarcity (or Veblen goods effect), part costlier to produce and part more difficult to produce in Champagne. The two former ones have been already covered, so I guess it's good to talk about the latter on as well. In order to make good rosé in Champagne, you need to have red grapes that a...
by Jayson Cohen
March 4th, 2020, 7:43 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Revisiting 1990 Bordeaux
Replies: 26
Views: 1798

Re: Revisiting 1990 Bordeaux

Nice dinner and notes, guys.

I love ‘90 Poyferre. I feel like it’s been drinking really well for almost 20 years and just keeps going.
by Jayson Cohen
March 4th, 2020, 7:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Tete de cuvee roses
Replies: 28
Views: 1182

Re: Tete de cuvee roses

I don’t get it really. You don’t see this differential between say Roederer vintage and vintage Rose. Or Pol Roger vintage and PR Rose. Is it just supply and demand for the Tete de Cuvees? Seems unlikely.
by Jayson Cohen
March 3rd, 2020, 9:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Northern Rhones
Replies: 28
Views: 1999

Re: TN: Northern Rhones

Worse than boring. Something that I wouldn't want to serve to wine-knowledgeable guests. That’s spot on. I do think Michel’s grandparents were good winemakers in their day, but I’ve only had a few of those old Chapoutier wines. With his holdings the potential of this domaine is squandered year afte...
by Jayson Cohen
March 2nd, 2020, 11:34 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What would your classification of Loire reds be?
Replies: 154
Views: 8474

Re: What would your classification of Loire reds be?

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
March 2nd, 2020, 5:40 pm
Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
March 2nd, 2020, 5:38 pm
First we had to worry about Charlie hoovering up N Rhône’s. Now Bobby is causing sell outs of Loire wines. Les Memories is just a memory at Crush.

Well played. Although I may have gone a completely different direction:

by Jayson Cohen
March 2nd, 2020, 7:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Xavier Gerard: a Cote-Rotie producer to be on the lookout for.
Replies: 139
Views: 17079

Re: Xavier Gerard: a Cote-Rotie producer to be on the lookout for.

I’m also a big fan of 2014 (and 2013) in the N. Rhône.
by Jayson Cohen
March 1st, 2020, 11:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Saturday night wines - Prum, Ramonet, Moreau-Naudet, Mugnier, Mugneret-Gibourg, Jadot and Rossignol-Trapet
Replies: 22
Views: 1345

Re: Saturday night wines - Prum, Ramonet, Moreau-Naudet, Mugnier, Mugneret-Gibourg, Jadot and Rossignol-Trapet

Mugneret-Gibourg Echezeaux 2004 - This was the best non-Truchot 2004 I have had. No green. Plenty of ripe fruit. Glorious wine. You got really lucky, Howard. A bottle I opened last year — my only one — was affected and only got worse with air. A friend had the same mean greenie experience in Europe...
by Jayson Cohen
February 27th, 2020, 2:43 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2016 Benoit Courault - "Les Tabeneaux" (France, Loire Valley, Anjou-Saumur, Anjou)
Replies: 3
Views: 181

Re: TN: 2016 Benoit Courault - "Les Tabeneaux" (France, Loire Valley, Anjou-Saumur, Anjou)

I tried really hard to like this and also the 2016 Guinechiens (white from old vines) given the recommendations I’ve received from multiple folks I respect. But I don’t get it. The red was a single pour. The white I followed over days. I chalk it up to — these hit someone’s sweet spot, just not mine...
by Jayson Cohen
February 25th, 2020, 4:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1995 R. López de Heredia Rioja Gran Reserva Viña Bosconia
Replies: 15
Views: 967

Re: TN: 1995 R. López de Heredia Rioja Gran Reserva Viña Bosconia

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
February 25th, 2020, 3:45 pm
I can remember when the Rosado wasn't a thing.
The Rosado was always a thing. It’s just most people didn’t know about it, and it was cheap.
by Jayson Cohen
February 25th, 2020, 4:03 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: continuing the discussion on old wines
Replies: 57
Views: 3616

Re: continuing the discussion on old wines

Thank you for all the nice comments. I drink wine since 1970 (when I bought a house which had a cellar, giving a motivation to fill it), and I drink old wines since 1975. I have a data base only since 2000 which means that I have no notes on 25 years of consumption of old wines. Anyway, I have toda...
by Jayson Cohen
February 24th, 2020, 7:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Anything good from '81?
Replies: 54
Views: 1743

Re: Anything good from '81?

Krug is fantastic. One wine which has not been mentioned is Haut-Brion 1981 which is very great. And if you can think of it, Romanée Conti 1981 is a magnificent wine that I drank two times (the other 1981 DRC drunk 9 times were great too). To be sure, go to Vega Sicilia Unico, and Châteauneuf du Pa...
by Jayson Cohen
February 24th, 2020, 6:56 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Anything good from '81?
Replies: 54
Views: 1743

Re: Anything good from '81?

Hal Blumberg wrote:
February 24th, 2020, 6:03 pm
1981 was a truly special vintage on Rioja. As mentioned above, Lopez de Heredia Tosconia and Bosconia are terrific. I'd also include the Prado Enea.

Cheers,

Hal
Also maybe the last great Viña Real Gran Reserva. (We’ll see.)
by Jayson Cohen
February 24th, 2020, 10:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Anything good from '81?
Replies: 54
Views: 1743

Re: Anything good from '81?

It’s a great Rioja vintage in red and white.

And there are many good red Bordeaux for relatively reasonable prices still in comparison to other vintages. I particularly like ‘81 Graves.
by Jayson Cohen
February 23rd, 2020, 6:37 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which Champagne are you drinking?
Replies: 1080
Views: 74678

Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

2014 Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Grand Cellier d'Or - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru (2/22/2020) First bottle of four. 80% Chard / 20% Pinot Noir. Opened this last night, finishing today. There is evident structure here, and the dosage that I notice in the 2013 seems well integrat...
by Jayson Cohen
February 23rd, 2020, 10:31 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10089

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

Craig G wrote:
February 23rd, 2020, 10:28 am
Emmanuel Menger wrote:
February 23rd, 2020, 10:15 am
To the extent you criticize the wines. Not the man. Do you know him personally ? Presumably no. Hence every ad hominem critic is null and void.
Don criticized what Morey said, and then said he could have no respect for Morey because of it. There is no ad hominem there.
This.
by Jayson Cohen
February 23rd, 2020, 10:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Searching for “aged” wines
Replies: 37
Views: 1290

Re: Searching for “aged” wines

If you need an absolute guarantee on older bottles (and I don’t know any store except Chambers that gives that for secondary market wines), you should look for library / ex-cellar releases. Steve Edmunds will do this on occasion. You may also be able to contact wineries directly to try to convince t...
by Jayson Cohen
February 23rd, 2020, 9:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10089

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

I'm sorry, but it is very hard for me to have any respect for the man after hearing these garbage excuses. His excuses are even worse than when Anne Claude was serving clearly oxidized bottles of Leflaive whites at the Paulee and claiming that they weren't oxidized when people commented that the wi...
by Jayson Cohen
February 22nd, 2020, 9:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is your pick on the most undervalued wine (producer, vintage, grape, etc.) in the world?
Replies: 86
Views: 6014

Re: What is your pick on the most undervalued wine (producer, vintage, grape, etc.) in the world?

Chenin Blanc, particularly Huet Vouvray. All 3 vineyards produce brilliant wines in all manner of sweetness, which age spectacularly. +1 on this. I’m drinking a 16 Le Mont Sec right now, and it is a show stopper. This is like Dauvissat/Raveneau level good, and it set me back around $40. As others h...
by Jayson Cohen
February 22nd, 2020, 11:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1971 wine - what to look for?
Replies: 69
Views: 2831

Re: 1971 wine - what to look for?

Re: provenance and bottle condition, I have had much better luck on average with Bordeaux from the late sixties through 71 than Piedmont from the same period, a fact which takes on more weight because a lot of the Piedmont wines were supposedly sourced from good cellars in Italy and brought over rec...
by Jayson Cohen
February 22nd, 2020, 10:34 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Recent TNs: Krug 164, Harmand Geoffroy
Replies: 3
Views: 421

Re: Recent TNs: Krug 164, Harmand Geoffroy

Yeah I think all of the 08s are starting to shut down; time to put away for a few years. I think you are right - a lot are shutting down or shut down. Luckily if you like young Champagne, there is a lot to like from 09 and the 12-16 stretch. (As with the 164 around release, I was surprised by how m...
by Jayson Cohen
February 22nd, 2020, 10:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik
Replies: 64
Views: 6154

Re: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik

Where is this from? Ah, Skurnik. +1 It may not have been nasty, and hopefully wasn't, but it would be a bizarre way to end amicably a long-term relationship of the sort involved here. All evidence suggests that it wasn't amicable. In the end, I don't know that it matters, other than it's a shame an...
by Jayson Cohen
February 21st, 2020, 6:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik
Replies: 64
Views: 6154

Re: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik

1997 Donnhoff Kronheim label. What I had readily available at home. 024AACB3-1993-4B03-A36F-E0A3EBD31279.jpeg OK, so then 1998. I know it was sometime in the late 1990s. I have a lot of heat damaged wines that were handled by Kronheim. Skurnik has always been pristine. Same. Off the top of my head,...
by Jayson Cohen
February 21st, 2020, 6:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10089

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

Following on from the idea that measuring free SO2 gives some information, but is likely not the whole story, is there any strong evidence that browning the must changes the redox potential of and/or stabilizes the wine in a way that might also change conventional wisdom on how much free SO2 might b...
by Jayson Cohen
February 21st, 2020, 6:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik
Replies: 64
Views: 6154

Re: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik

No doubt, Terry and the availability of his wines at reasonable pricing in the late 90s are the reason I started buying and drinking German and Austrian wines and (grower) Champagnes early in my wine obsession. I’ve had so many profound wines from so many of his growers over the years. I owe him a r...
by Jayson Cohen
February 21st, 2020, 5:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik
Replies: 64
Views: 6154

Re: Terry Theise / Michael Skurnik

1997 Donnhoff Kronheim label. What I had readily available at home.
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by Jayson Cohen
February 21st, 2020, 4:34 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10089

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

I read Jayson's post to mean that it's effectively impossible to develop real statistics, which makes generalizations hard, but in the mean time anecdotal data (such as Don's reports) are extremely valuable. Unless you're suggesting taking Don's results as conclusive data (which Don clearly is not)...
by Jayson Cohen
February 21st, 2020, 1:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What was your wine board path to Wine Berserkers
Replies: 174
Views: 7498

Re: What was your wine board path to Wine Berserkers

Funny this old thread got resurrected, as I was thinking about this after seeing Mike Evans post here recently. My path is simliar to the ones that he and Brad Kane posted. AOL around 1994 (Enophile) CompuServe around 1995 Some WLDG and a lot of WCWN from around 1998-2006 Occasional Squires (pre-Pa...
by Jayson Cohen
February 21st, 2020, 10:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What's the smallest production cuvée in Burgundy?
Replies: 41
Views: 2804

Re: What's the smallest production cuvée in Burgundy?

It would be so interesting to see a set of photos by date of the different growers’ vines over the course of a growing season.

Winehog’s site is very informative on plot ownership, assuming its accurate.
by Jayson Cohen
February 21st, 2020, 9:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10089

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

Without real stats and solid provenance tracking, not anecdotes, generalizations are tough. Still I see both sides of the argument above about anecdotal experiences. While I do enjoy Don’s yearly report and think Don’s tastings and experience are valuable, and no doubt identify premox problems anec...
by Jayson Cohen
February 21st, 2020, 9:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro
Replies: 168
Views: 10089

Re: 2011 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Two – March 14, 2019 at Drago Centro

Without real stats and solid provenance tracking, not anecdotes, generalizations are tough. Still I see both sides of the argument above about anecdotal experiences. While I do enjoy Don’s yearly report and think Don’s tastings and experience are valuable, and no doubt identify premox problems anec...

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