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by Wes Barton
March 17th, 2019, 1:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2017 Le P'tit Paysan Chardonnay Jack's Hill Vineyard
Replies: 6
Views: 254

Re: TN: 2017 Le P'tit Paysan Chardonnay Jack's Hill Vineyard

Kris Patten wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 7:20 pm
Shows you just how much wine is out there today, never seen this before. Will search one out, note sounds great.

Thanks for sharing.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/wine/articl ... 475931.php
by Wes Barton
March 14th, 2019, 3:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer
Replies: 118
Views: 6630

Re: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer

+1 to this question as well. I was considering MB futures, but I really can't fathom waiting 15+ years. Auction route does seem like the better option. Question about MB futures and really futures in general where the wine is not expected to be consumed for 15+ years. Does the price savings of buyi...
by Wes Barton
March 13th, 2019, 8:13 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 10 Forum (January 27, 2019) #BD10 "the Black Friday of wine commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Sandler BerserkerDay 10 4 Packs and 6 Packs
Replies: 47
Views: 2179

Re: Sandler BerserkerDay 10 4 Packs and 6 Packs

C Chen wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 4:06 pm
drew b wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 3:58 pm
Got in for a couple of the 4 packs. We enjoyed these immensely last year!
What, today?
Berserkers don't follow rules.
by Wes Barton
March 11th, 2019, 9:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Aged Mount Eden with a great vegetarian dinner (long)
Replies: 27
Views: 1294

Re: Aged Mount Eden with a great vegetarian dinner (long)

Why, your witty sense of humor in reaction to my awkward attempt at humor has me utterly flabbergasted. Well, I never! I look down on your type, you elitist, you!
by Wes Barton
March 11th, 2019, 10:18 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer
Replies: 118
Views: 6630

Re: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer

Here's my take. For 2018, Cab Sauv component was simply stunning. That bodes well for the Cab used for the Estate wine. I felt Merlot was too sweet, less savory than past vintages. Also, lacked structure. I hope less is used than usual in the final blend. Petit Verdot was all structure which should...
by Wes Barton
March 8th, 2019, 10:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Jamie Goode on brett, TCA, ladybugs, smoke taint and mousiness
Replies: 62
Views: 1754

Re: Jamie Goode on brett, TCA, ladybugs, smoke taint and mousiness

This is an interesting post for me to read. I actually just finished reading Flawless and one of the reasons I did was because I was curious about the origin of what I generally call a “real cider” note in wines. I went to college in the West Country of England and had a lot of ciders there (especi...
by Wes Barton
March 7th, 2019, 5:31 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Jamie Goode on brett, TCA, ladybugs, smoke taint and mousiness
Replies: 62
Views: 1754

Re: Jamie Goode on brett, TCA, ladybugs, smoke taint and mousiness

What does Ladybug taint smell/taste like? I always thought they were good luck, but I guess not if they get mashed in a destemmer! I don't necessarily recommend this, but if you want to know, crush a lady bug between your fingers. Just like learning the smell of formic acid from crushing an ant. Yo...
by Wes Barton
March 7th, 2019, 3:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: California 2017
Replies: 89
Views: 5055

Re: California 2017

New to the board. Is there a way to follow the declassified wine from good vineyards to see where it ends up? A lot of times buyers are contractually prohibited from revealing the source. Prestige growers do a lot to protect their brand name. Also, whether the winery uses it for a second tier wine ...
by Wes Barton
March 7th, 2019, 3:31 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Looks like the organic trend isn't really catching on in California
Replies: 41
Views: 1841

Re: Looks like the organic trend isn't really catching on in California

Also, wind blown glyphosate is going to break down, if it even makes it into the soil of that neighboring vineyard. The concerning effect there is it can do a lot of foliar damage, which can hamper photosynthesis. Oh, and inhalation can cause a lot of lung damage. Commercially, you need to be certif...
by Wes Barton
March 6th, 2019, 9:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer
Replies: 118
Views: 6630

Re: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer

Scott Fitzgerald wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 4:36 pm
Wes Barton wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 3:43 pm
Vintages like '13 and '15 were "back up the truck".
Wes, what are your thoughts on the 2016?
I expect to be try the '16 Estate Cab for the first time this Sunday at the Components Tasting.
by Wes Barton
March 6th, 2019, 3:43 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer
Replies: 118
Views: 6630

Re: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer

I just want to try the MB and see if I’m missing something. Nothing more. And I realize the price of admission. Still don’t like it. I wouldn't call their "Estate" wines so-so. (Well, maybe the Merlot. Their best lots of estate Merlot are world-class, but go into Monte Bello of are bottled separate...
by Wes Barton
March 4th, 2019, 2:00 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Favorite US Chenin Blanc?
Replies: 48
Views: 1628

Re: Favorite US Chenin Blanc?

In general I find a lack of freshness, or when a wine is "fresher" it lacks aromatic depth. Not every grape belongs in every place. Could be a great degree of the old one-size-fits-all winemaking. A region long known for making great ones will have figured out the "tricks" for the variety and passe...
by Wes Barton
March 4th, 2019, 12:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: California 2017
Replies: 89
Views: 5055

Re: California 2017

I heard from a Napa winery owner that he thinks their 2018 wines will be the wines of the decade with near perfect growing conditions. With great 2016s and maybe spectacular 2018s, why take a chance on 2017s you haven't tasted? A few points... 1) Just because of some broad generalization that puts ...
by Wes Barton
March 4th, 2019, 12:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: DavidBruce WhiteRiesling '79...(short/boring)
Replies: 3
Views: 142

Re: TN: DavidBruce WhiteRiesling '79...(short/boring)

"Wines and Winemakers..." confirms this was estate fruit. Remember, this would have been released before there was a Santa Cruz Mountains AVA.
by Wes Barton
March 3rd, 2019, 4:12 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: California 2017
Replies: 89
Views: 5055

Re: California 2017

Translation: There's about a one in a thousand chance that '17 Napa Cab will have smoke taint (or fifty-fifty if you buy at trader Joe's), so let's all run around screaming "The sky is falling!" If a '17 Sonoma Pinot somehow has smoke taint, it was also picked at 30+ brix and the smoke kinda sorta m...
by Wes Barton
March 2nd, 2019, 11:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Over sweet Pinot Noirs (served blind)
Replies: 35
Views: 1498

Re: Over sweet Pinot Noirs (served blind)

2005 was a chronically overrated vintage for Pinots in Cali. They just haven't held up well by and large unless you really want sweet tart wines. Some producers surely did well due to the style they make but most of the stuff we really liked back then should have been drank back then. But, it's imp...
by Wes Barton
March 1st, 2019, 4:29 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon
Replies: 378
Views: 21582

Re: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon

Anton D wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 4:21 pm
Bill Tex Landreth wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 4:19 pm
John Webber wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 7:31 am
Indiana like most of the other start-ups?
Nope
Mumbai?
Nah. Perhaps he get a great deal on some premium aged Bourbon in Hong Kong?
by Wes Barton
March 1st, 2019, 3:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer
Replies: 118
Views: 6630

Re: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer

I'm confused. I have to buy the estate wines, and maybe I'll be offered some Montebello? 2017 was the first year I bought Montebello. Seems to be the case. Credit card just got charged for estate wines. No news on Montebello yet. I don't know what the current program is, but as of a year or so ago,...
by Wes Barton
March 1st, 2019, 3:09 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer
Replies: 118
Views: 6630

Re: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer

Question about MB futures and really futures in general where the wine is not expected to be consumed for 15+ years. Does the price savings of buying futures get eroded by the storage costs of holding a wine vs the cost of storing that wine for the duration? Based on today’s pricing it’s approx $10...
by Wes Barton
March 1st, 2019, 2:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Over sweet Pinot Noirs (served blind)
Replies: 35
Views: 1498

Re: Over sweet Pinot Noirs (served blind)

Just checked the winery site, and the 2014 was 13.7% alcohol. 50% new French oak. Its not just how much new oak, but what oak. I suspect, by the description of mid palate sweetness, that Remond oak was used. As part of a larger lot it can play a nice note when used along with other oak, but in a sm...
by Wes Barton
February 28th, 2019, 11:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer
Replies: 118
Views: 6630

Re: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer

Understood that each is different. Was just looking for a general trend on age? An occasional vintage may come around as early as 10 years. Other outliers, like the '05 may take 40. The norm might be 20-25, but some do well at 15. Some specific examples are the '01 showed great early on and still d...
by Wes Barton
February 25th, 2019, 6:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Can old wine ever make you sick
Replies: 28
Views: 1311

Re: Can old wine ever make you sick

Older wine has more histamines. I've never heard that. Where did you hear/read that? Fellow at my apartment a few weeks ago who said he had a severe histamine allergy and only can tolerate young wines. But as we both now agree we can't trust this fellow, I tried to find Internet proof.. and cannot ...
by Wes Barton
February 25th, 2019, 5:33 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer
Replies: 118
Views: 6630

Re: 2018 Ridge Monte Bello futures offer

How do you guys think about the value of Ridge MB vs Montelena Estate? Montelena is a little less expensive on futures. In full disclosure, I'm subscribed to both. Personally, the expression of the Montebello Road subregion is incomparable and hits home for me. Ridge is the modern benchmark there. ...
by Wes Barton
February 19th, 2019, 6:37 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Santa Clara & San Benito Wine Heritage
Replies: 237
Views: 8005

Re: Santa Clara & San Benito Wine Heritage

Located in the hills west of Morgan Hill and just north of Hecker Pass
Oops. That should say Gilroy. Not very close to Morgan Hill.
by Wes Barton
February 19th, 2019, 6:31 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: DavidBruce Zin Calif LateHrvst Sweet '71...(short/boring)
Replies: 13
Views: 278

Re: TN: DavidBruce Zin Calif LateHrvst Sweet '71...(short/boring)

The grapes for all these DavidBruce's came from the MaryCarter vnyd down in the Gilroy/CienegaVlly area. I'm not sure that her vnyd still exists, I know that she does not still exist. I visited it last year. Two sections/blocks just a little ways up Redwood Retreat. The part that Bedrock gets is ca...
by Wes Barton
February 19th, 2019, 6:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: DavidBruce Zin Calif LateHrvst Sweet '71...(short/boring)
Replies: 13
Views: 278

Re: Hey...

Too bad it didn't have any enjoyment for you - would have been a really fun little piece of history. Love that you happen to know about those 60's Late Harvest Zins. .. Hey, Todd..I'm a LosAlamos guy....we just make stuff up!!! [snort.gif] LarryA just got at auction a btl of the Ridge LateHrvst Occ...
by Wes Barton
February 19th, 2019, 6:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Premox'd White Burgs Turn Great? (per Jasper Morris)
Replies: 117
Views: 3967

Re: Premox'd White Burgs Turn Great? (per Jasper Morris)

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 6:30 am
What was the deal with the 73 montelena where they were dark but then cleared up?
Iirc, that was the oxidized phenols precipitating out.
by Wes Barton
February 18th, 2019, 1:28 pm
Forum: Offline Planner
Topic: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL February 18 - Sole
Replies: 46
Views: 695

Re: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL February 18 - Sole

Not feel well today, so probably best to withdraw.
by Wes Barton
February 17th, 2019, 2:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon
Replies: 378
Views: 21582

Re: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon

What is confusing is that anyone would attempt to stand in the way of someone with a business that has been shuttered attempting to do right by their clients. Mistakes, mess ups, lessons, issues, personal matters, whatever. I’m here trying to do the right thing. I’ve taken what this forum has to of...
by Wes Barton
February 17th, 2019, 2:29 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon
Replies: 378
Views: 21582

Re: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon

And still you are attempting to add weight to what you are saying by bringing in issues such as alcoholism. If only you knew details about the scenario, you’d make more sense when speaking about the lender. You don’t and so I can’t say that you are accurate as you’d like to be. I respect you, Wes. ...
by Wes Barton
February 16th, 2019, 5:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon
Replies: 378
Views: 21582

Re: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon

So Brian, I conned you since you had to wait more days for a refund? Or were you defrauded because you had to wait a few more days? Which is it? Why are you trying to spin what he said? He said you lied when you didn't do what you said you were going to do, over and over. You just posted you didn't...
by Wes Barton
February 16th, 2019, 3:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon
Replies: 378
Views: 21582

Re: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon

So Brian, I conned you since you had to wait more days for a refund? Or were you defrauded because you had to wait a few more days? Which is it? Why are you trying to spin what he said? He said you lied when you didn't do what you said you were going to do, over and over. You just posted you didn't...
by Wes Barton
February 16th, 2019, 10:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon
Replies: 378
Views: 21582

Re: Ray Walker's New New Bourbon Company - Saint Cloud Kentucky Bourbon

Kevin You cannot convince that I lied. What I will say is that as a winemaker, I decided to further age my wines to allow them the ability to mature. I have that right. Anyone that makes wine has that right. It happens quite a bit actually. People think you lied because you made excited timely post...
by Wes Barton
February 15th, 2019, 10:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Chlorine/chloramine in cellar humidifier water
Replies: 5
Views: 207

Re: Chlorine/chloramine in cellar humidifier water

Distilled water is cheap.
by Wes Barton
February 14th, 2019, 4:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mount Eden visit - been there?
Replies: 9
Views: 640

Re: Mount Eden visit - been there?

Some of us visited under the new program last year. That was at the estate. We were up around the house overseeing the vineyard while we listened to the history explained, then did duck into the original cellar under the house. After that, we did a sit down tasting. Pretty much what the link Scott p...
by Wes Barton
February 14th, 2019, 4:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Filoli Estate Vnyd??
Replies: 14
Views: 372

Re: Filoli Estate Vnyd??

He sounds l a little shaky on facts there. He doesn't mention who created those hybrids or what they are. Many were created for winemaking. I'd bet several are quite suitable. Terre Vox figured out some that work well for their vineyard, and how best to make them. Many of our common table grapes are...
by Wes Barton
February 13th, 2019, 2:54 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ridge Monte Bello. Putting it back on the shelf.
Replies: 23
Views: 2127

Re: Ridge Monte Bello. Putting it back on the shelf.

I strongly advise taking advantage of the futures tasting events.

They tend to show really well on release. Then shut down. Then gradually start opening up again. Then continuing to improve.
by Wes Barton
February 10th, 2019, 10:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Sicily rediscovers wine varieties previously thought to be extinct
Replies: 3
Views: 264

Re: Sicily rediscovers wine varieties previously thought to be extinct

I did have to wonder how a variety with 8,000 planted vines was considered extinct though. Hiding in plain sight - thought to be something else. We've seen that in other regions. What was thought to be one grape variety turns out to be 2 or 3 unrelated(!) grapes that performing more or less the same.
by Wes Barton
February 7th, 2019, 5:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Blind tastings study
Replies: 8
Views: 515

Re: Blind tastings study

Agree about Alc, but not sure acid generally popular among casual drinkers. Oak and ripe fruit usually ring the bell. Those are relative things, any of which will have a sweet spot for someone. So, more acidic compared to what baseline? Higher ABV compared to what? More oak than what? Depending whe...
by Wes Barton
February 7th, 2019, 4:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: SFChron: Intentional Brett Infected Wine
Replies: 14
Views: 649

Re: SFChron: Intentional Brett Infected Wine

Interesting. I've suspected stress plays a big role in bad brettanomyces behavior. They do perform many of the same tasks as Saccaromyces, including producing many positive characteristics. We see many beneficial microbes in other venues, like the human biome, do some very detrimental things under e...
by Wes Barton
February 4th, 2019, 6:11 pm
Forum: Cellar Rats (ITB)
Topic: Getting into the business: finding good harvest internships
Replies: 14
Views: 698

Re: Getting into the business: finding good harvest internships

Pick up a copy of this: https://www.amazon.com/Tips-Cellar-Rats-Mary-Baker/dp/0557423627/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549330335&sr=8-1&keywords=50+tips+for+cellar+rats - Nothing is typical. - Standard hours? 20? Really, it is what it is. Grapes have to come in when they're ready, then need to be processe...
by Wes Barton
February 4th, 2019, 9:50 am
Forum: Offline Planner
Topic: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL February 18 - Sole
Replies: 46
Views: 695

Re: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL February

25th looks better for me.
by Wes Barton
January 31st, 2019, 3:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "New World" and "Old World": What do they mean to you?
Replies: 51
Views: 1377

Re: "New World" and "Old World": What do they mean to you?

I'll restate that the terms come from a snapshot in time. How many California wines from the '70s would qualify as "new world" in style? Not many. The epitome of fine dining in the 19th century, when world-class wines from the classic grape varieties started being made until quite recently was Fren...
by Wes Barton
January 31st, 2019, 3:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: KennethVolk Negrette '12...(short/boring)
Replies: 6
Views: 132

Re: TN: KennethVolk Negrette '12...(short/boring)

Bryan Harrington made a Negrette from San Benito County some years ago, might have been 2011 but my memory is fuzzy on the exact vintage. He may give it another shot at some point, not sure. That variety was what first drew him to San Benito County, and now he gets much of his fruit from there. I'd...
by Wes Barton
January 30th, 2019, 5:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "New World" and "Old World": What do they mean to you?
Replies: 51
Views: 1377

Re: "New World" and "Old World": What do they mean to you?

OK I get the obvious geographical reference, but I am looking for something beyond the obvious. I tried to leave the question open ended, but after seeing what Markus can do with it, here are a couple of examples to show where my question is coming from. There was a thread about a winemaker changin...
by Wes Barton
January 30th, 2019, 1:06 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural Wine & Whole-Cluster Ferments??
Replies: 16
Views: 658

Re: Natural Wine & Whole-Cluster Ferments??

That does hit on the crux of the old debates (wasn't this all sort of resolved..?) When people spell out rules for what a natural wine is, they are hypocritical and arbitrary. They allow a practice necessary for one's own circumstance, while heaping scorn on equal or less intrusive measures that are...

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