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by Wes Barton
July 14th, 2019, 4:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wines of Etna
Replies: 31
Views: 1091

Re: Wines of Etna

The bottle variation on Cornellissen's wines is such that it's no surprise that CT notes are all over the place. I personally own more Passopisciaro than any other producer, but wouldn't say they are necessarily similar in style. If they were easier to track down, I would own a lot of Benanti, and ...
by Wes Barton
July 14th, 2019, 4:15 pm
Forum: Offline Planner
Topic: Dinner at Golden Triangle in Los Gatos in Sept. or Oct. and the theme will be...
Replies: 9
Views: 178

Re: Dinner at Golden Triangle in Los Gatos in Sept. or Oct. and the theme will be...

I'm in, unless there's some winey/winery/winesty conflict. I vote quality SCM fruit. And, keeping in mind the food there, they should lean somewhat mature and not tannic. There was a nice bottle of1970 Gemello on K&L today Saw that. Wondered if you're the G***** bidding on some of that old crap. Se...
by Wes Barton
July 13th, 2019, 8:21 pm
Forum: Offline Planner
Topic: Dinner at Golden Triangle in Los Gatos in Sept. or Oct. and the theme will be...
Replies: 9
Views: 178

Re: Dinner at Golden Triangle in Los Gatos in Sept. or Oct. and the theme will be...

I'm in, unless there's some winey/winery/winesty conflict.

I vote quality SCM fruit. And, keeping in mind the food there, they should lean somewhat mature and not tannic.
by Wes Barton
July 13th, 2019, 3:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Generally speaking, what type of wine is the best food wine?
Replies: 46
Views: 1311

Re: Generally speaking, what type of wine is the best food wine?

Cornalin, which should be planted up and down the west coast.
by Wes Barton
July 13th, 2019, 2:49 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 6 TNs from last night: OLD Hanzell Pinot Noir, Vilmart and a few others
Replies: 12
Views: 703

Re: 6 TNs from last night: OLD Hanzell Pinot Noir, Vilmart and a few others

I wouldn't be surprised if those Hanzels saw 100% stem inclusion. That could explain the tannic structure and various spice and odd green (like dill) notes that can throw you off from thinking it's PN. I had a similarly mature CA PN last week that had some people commenting it didn't seem like PN (i...
by Wes Barton
July 13th, 2019, 12:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are vineyards and cannabis growers compatible?
Replies: 40
Views: 1043

Re: Are vineyards and cannabis growers compatible?

Unless there is a marked difference between sun grown weed & indoor grown weed, I fail to see why anyone would pay up for vineyard quality land when there are plenty of warehouse or like equivalent places that are far cheaper. Will, someone's going to tell you there is, and connoisseurs can tell th...
by Wes Barton
July 11th, 2019, 5:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are vineyards and cannabis growers compatible?
Replies: 40
Views: 1043

Re: Are vineyards and cannabis growers compatible?

It's been grown indoors in large-scale operations in urban areas for decades. Preventing the aromas from escaping has been a necessary cost of doing business for such operations.

I'm sure its volatile aromatic oils can be drawn into the grape tissue just like so many others are.
by Wes Barton
July 8th, 2019, 1:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Self-Disgorgement?
Replies: 21
Views: 739

Re: Self-Disgorgement?

Another thought - I suspect these are wines that would continue to throw sediment post-disgorgement. That brings up a lot of issues for them to consider. I'd bet their decision to not disgorge has nothing to do with marketing, but they then do need to be very upfront to the potential customers with ...
by Wes Barton
July 7th, 2019, 11:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Self-Disgorgement?
Replies: 21
Views: 739

Re: Self-Disgorgement?

Disgorging is a messy labor intensive process, so doing so would add a lot of cost in a price-sensitive range. Like, this wine is $30. Would it sell as well at $35, if disgorged? This nerdy process of customers doing it at home may be a marketing appeal that makes them stand out - that's certainly w...
by Wes Barton
July 5th, 2019, 12:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Anyone opening good wine for the 4th, or is it a beer day ?
Replies: 56
Views: 1631

Re: Anyone opening good wine for the 4th, or is it a beer day ?

Someone's count was 26 wines. Some highlights:
'64 Bersano Barolo (much better than the one I brought to a recent OL)
'79 La Crema Vinera PN Ventana
'93 Ridge Geyserville
'01 Latour Corton-Charlemagne
by Wes Barton
July 3rd, 2019, 6:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: New grapes approved for Bordeaux
Replies: 30
Views: 1555

Re: New grapes approved for Bordeaux

WINE GRAPES says the official story was Castets was found growing wild in the Gironde in 1870 and was propagated after that. It also noted that the grape was actually likely introduced from the Pyrenees, where it seems to be from. Either way, not a grape that was planted in Bordeaux in 1855. Here's ...
by Wes Barton
July 2nd, 2019, 10:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: New grapes approved for Bordeaux
Replies: 30
Views: 1555

Re: New grapes approved for Bordeaux

John Morris wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 9:09 pm
Maybe the bee was pissed off about the price.
After being attracted by all the buzz.
by Wes Barton
June 28th, 2019, 9:02 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Friday Poll time, $1000 to spend
Replies: 90
Views: 2353

Re: Friday Poll time, $1000 to spend

19th century Angelica.
by Wes Barton
June 27th, 2019, 2:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Which RIDGE are you drinking?
Replies: 475
Views: 31022

Re: Which RIDGE are you drinking?

G. Bienstock wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 10:08 pm
1999 Monte Bello last week was still tight and tannic.
Funny that a decade ago that was drinking well and seemed like an early drinker. I had some in April, and a few other times in the last few years, and it's been tight and tannic. Needs to sit another decade.
by Wes Barton
June 27th, 2019, 12:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Some random thoughts, mainly about alcohol...
Replies: 131
Views: 5580

Re: Some random thoughts, mainly about alcohol...

The weird extreme experience I had was with some 190 proof spirits a friend brought. Being at <ahem> work, the best seeming choice to blend it with was Snapple. Being somewhat smart, we carefully measured 1/3 ounce shots to add to our 16 ounce Snapples, put the lids on and shook. After drinking abou...
by Wes Barton
June 26th, 2019, 2:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Some random thoughts, mainly about alcohol...
Replies: 131
Views: 5580

Re: Some random thoughts, mainly about alcohol...

- No more than 2 glasses per night - Last glass 3 hours before bed - Wine with food - no coffee past noon - no working out 2-3 hours before bed - snack before bed recommended - hot shower or bath before bed - no iPhones or laptops in bed - something about the emitted light stimulates the brain - re...
by Wes Barton
June 26th, 2019, 1:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Some random thoughts, mainly about alcohol...
Replies: 131
Views: 5580

Re: Some random thoughts, mainly about alcohol...

This is all fascinating. Can the affected people tolerate one glass of Port? What happens if you guys have one serving of 43% ABV Scotch? In this non-linear idea, it would seem drinking one Scotch would be crushing you guys. Do one martini or limoncello seem as bad as that glass of 14-15% glass of ...
by Wes Barton
June 26th, 2019, 2:03 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Some random thoughts, mainly about alcohol...
Replies: 131
Views: 5580

Re: Some random thoughts, mainly about alcohol...

At 15%, drinking and entire bottle of wine yields 3.75 oz of alcohol. 13% takes it down to 3.25 oz of alcohol. If you killed two entire bottles on your own, the difference would be 1 oz of alcohol consumed. It wouldn’t seem that from drinking an entire bottle’s worth of wine the extra half ounce wo...
by Wes Barton
June 26th, 2019, 1:23 am
Forum: Cellar Rats (ITB)
Topic: Retailers ITB
Replies: 2
Views: 337

Re: Retailers ITB

Wine Pimps is the retail sub-forum.
by Wes Barton
June 24th, 2019, 6:33 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter
Replies: 33
Views: 3281

Re: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter

What is strange is the claim of one block being the sole source. If my math is correct, it takes at least 36 tons of grapes to make 1827 cases. If properly pruned, that is more than ten acres. One hell of a block. I'm thinking you're basing that on my wording, which was to distinguish between two s...
by Wes Barton
June 24th, 2019, 5:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Buncha Nebbiolos (Calif/Italian)...(long/boring)
Replies: 11
Views: 663

Re: Does A Bear..

Tom, I was in Santa Cruz last week and stopped by Thomas Fogarty winery. They had a nebbiolo, 2015 Walkers Nebbiolo, that on the nose I would swear was a Barolo. After tasting it, it was clearly not a barolo but was a really good wine. His Pinots and Chardonnay were also fantastic. Have you had any...
by Wes Barton
June 24th, 2019, 4:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Buncha Nebbiolos (Calif/Italian)...(long/boring)
Replies: 11
Views: 663

Re: TN: Buncha Nebbiolos (Calif/Italian)...(long/boring)

Tom, I was in Santa Cruz last week and stopped by Thomas Fogarty winery. They had a nebbiolo, 2015 Walkers Nebbiolo, that on the nose I would swear was a Barolo. After tasting it, it was clearly not a barolo but was a really good wine. His Pinots and Chardonnay were also fantastic. Have you had any...
by Wes Barton
June 21st, 2019, 6:24 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Aging Half-Bottles
Replies: 18
Views: 1037

Re: Aging Half-Bottles

I've heard that magnums age the best or longest, I believe due to the different ratio of oxygen to wine contact/interaction (however, this could be inaccurate), so I was wondering if the inverse was true as well -- that smaller bottles are less suitable for long term aging. I am still a wine novice...
by Wes Barton
June 20th, 2019, 11:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter
Replies: 33
Views: 3281

Re: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter

Wes, Are they making just two wines, Altagracia and Eisele?? Or will there be various bottlings of the Eisele?? Those two Cabs, plus Syrah, SB, don't recall if there's anything else. All estate fruit. What we saw was a snapshot in time. It was clear as day what they moved away from. I wouldn't be s...
by Wes Barton
June 19th, 2019, 5:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pisoni gets no love here
Replies: 38
Views: 1619

Re: Pisoni gets no love here

I've met Gary several times while hanging with Adam Lee. The estate wines were always a bit over the top for me. I generally prefer the wines from people who source their fruit. I drink very little CA Pinot these days, and when I do it's generally Santa Barbara or Sonoma Coast producers. I agree. T...
by Wes Barton
June 19th, 2019, 1:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter
Replies: 33
Views: 3281

Re: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter

Wes, My eyes are bad...you ll have to tell me "The Eisele Cab is from the block producing the most structured, longest lived wines. No new oak in those." I didn't say any of their other wines don't have new oak. Can't speak to any of them. We tasted the '12-'15, where the '12 was a great blueberry ...
by Wes Barton
June 19th, 2019, 3:18 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: ruby cabernet
Replies: 9
Views: 785

Re: ruby cabernet

Ridge have produced it up at Monte Bello in the past as part of the ATP. I tried the 1984 last year. Very good but probably not great. I think there's a reason it hasn't persisted as a varietal in SoCal. Ridge "inherited" a number of grape varieties up there. A few vintages of the Ruby Cab were clo...
by Wes Barton
June 19th, 2019, 2:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter
Replies: 33
Views: 3281

Re: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter

Mel Knox wrote:
June 18th, 2019, 9:08 pm
Wes,

What did they do with all the barrels my friends at Taransaud sold them??
You can find the answer re-reading my post.
by Wes Barton
June 18th, 2019, 6:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter
Replies: 33
Views: 3281

Re: Eisele Vineyard allocation letter

Looks pretty standard. Since I've been there, seen and tasted what they've done under Chateau Latour ownership, I have some idea what they're talking about. For one, they're referring to the fact that they've cut back what goes into the top wine. They ceased using purchased grapes for the Altagracia...
by Wes Barton
June 18th, 2019, 4:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Any good Chardonnay deals out there?
Replies: 29
Views: 1559

Re: Any good Chardonnay deals out there?

David Baum wrote:
June 18th, 2019, 3:40 pm
Just picked 15 Mount Eden Chardonnay for $33.99

No better deal than that
At that price, is that the Edna Valley?
by Wes Barton
June 17th, 2019, 12:20 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would you drink zero alcohol wine
Replies: 116
Views: 3030

Re: Would you drink zero alcohol wine

Would you drink alcohol free Scotch ? i know i wouldnt If it offers the exact same sensory impression and flavor profile, etc, why not? Are you only about the buzz? Not just the buzz but without it i dont see why you would bother. I mean what else do any of us spend $100's on just for the taste ? o...
by Wes Barton
June 17th, 2019, 9:35 am
Forum: Offline Planner
Topic: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL June 17 - Donato
Replies: 152
Views: 3835

Re: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL June 17 - Donato

'73 Spring Mountain Vineyard CS
by Wes Barton
June 14th, 2019, 11:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: WA vs NAPA wine
Replies: 12
Views: 1288

Re: WA vs NAPA wine

Those must be acronyms. Wonderfully Aristocratic? Notoriously Arrogant Patronizing Assholes? Which of these tasting room experiences are you willing to pay out the wazoo for?
by Wes Barton
June 14th, 2019, 8:31 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: MACDONALD For The Win
Replies: 44
Views: 3120

Re: MACDONALD For The Win

I am the only person in the world who is not a fan of 13, i think the fruit will dry up in a lot of wines before the tannic structure resolves. I find 13’s far to hard for the fruit i taste. Again nobody agrees with me but im going with what i taste not what everyone tells me '13 was a great vintag...
by Wes Barton
June 12th, 2019, 2:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's in Georgia (nation not state) - what is it?
Replies: 65
Views: 2307

Re: It's in Georgia (nation not state) - what is it?

Greg, if you want to actually try a modern, clean, dry Georgian wine, don't go looking at a frigging Russian deli! Those are bought to appeal to Russian emigres for their comfort and familiarity. In other words, exactly what you already know you won't like. We have several reputable Bay Area merchan...
by Wes Barton
June 11th, 2019, 11:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Another stupid poll about wine drinking
Replies: 56
Views: 2408

Re: Another stupid poll about wine drinking

Beer. Aside from being the smart-assed answer, it's the serious answer. I'm not sure I'd ever want to drink wine while stressed. Having a beer can be just what the doctor ordered. Alternatively, perhaps a coffee.
by Wes Barton
June 11th, 2019, 5:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's in Georgia (nation not state) - what is it?
Replies: 65
Views: 2307

Re: It's in Georgia (nation not state) - what is it?

Greg - Absolutely no one needed to be told the vast majority of Georgian wine is garbage. No one cares, either. We care about the good wines, which many of us have tried (details above, including the fact that some are made in a clean, modern fashion).
by Wes Barton
June 11th, 2019, 11:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: It's in Georgia (nation not state) - what is it?
Replies: 65
Views: 2307

Re: It's in Georgia (nation not state) - what is it?

@GregP, I recognise very little of what you have written about Georgian wines. Same. You can buy the sweet reds at the Ukrainian markets here, but the one I shop at carries some good dry ones which are also carried by respectable wine merchants. Local importer Blue Danube brings some in. We have se...
by Wes Barton
June 10th, 2019, 8:02 pm
Forum: Offline Planner
Topic: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL June 17 - Donato
Replies: 152
Views: 3835

Re: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL June 17 - Donato

No way!

Jose?
by Wes Barton
June 10th, 2019, 7:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Suit against Bryant Family alleges falling sales
Replies: 76
Views: 7152

Re: Suit against Bryant Family alleges falling sales

We also have the question of generational shift. People have gone insane for Burgundy. Maybe all the guys who lined up for Bryant,etc retired and are now looking to drink what they already bought. Maybe the younger generation cannot afford Bryant etc so they are all clamoring for Popelouchum... Heh...
by Wes Barton
June 10th, 2019, 5:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies
Replies: 80
Views: 2055

Re: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies

What about aldehydes? Another complicated subject with a family of compounds highly involved in wine. "Aldehydes are known sensitizers for small populations of humans and serve to cause chemically induced allergic reactions. The effects of these reactions can be dramatic at rather low concentration...
by Wes Barton
June 10th, 2019, 2:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies
Replies: 80
Views: 2055

Re: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies

What about aldehydes? Another complicated subject with a family of compounds highly involved in wine. "Aldehydes are known sensitizers for small populations of humans and serve to cause chemically induced allergic reactions. The effects of these reactions can be dramatic at rather low concentrations."
by Wes Barton
June 10th, 2019, 2:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies
Replies: 80
Views: 2055

Re: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies

The issue here is very different, it is like an immediate dermatological reaction as if you are drinking fire / immediate body ache. I have an occasional reaction to some wine, beer, etc. It's enough that I feel it on the first sip. Being aware of the warning sign is key, so I know to spit it out a...
by Wes Barton
June 10th, 2019, 2:00 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies
Replies: 80
Views: 2055

Re: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies

I should pick up a large swath of SC perhaps to test.. industrial but where is natural SC to be found? SC lives on everyone's skin (and internals) and all over the place. It's virtually impossible to keep various strains from making it into a ferment. The different strains have strengths and weakne...
by Wes Barton
June 10th, 2019, 1:34 pm
Forum: Offline Planner
Topic: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL June 17 - Donato
Replies: 152
Views: 3835

Re: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL June!

George Chadwick wrote:
June 10th, 2019, 11:08 am
I am thinking of a Rhys/Ridge dinner at Golden Triangle in the autumn.
I like that place. Can't make it during harvest season, though.
by Wes Barton
June 9th, 2019, 11:41 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies
Replies: 80
Views: 2055

Re: Saccharomyces cerevisiae in wine making/allergies

I am neither a winemaker nor an allergist. However, I am almost completely certain that S. cerevisiae is THE yeast used in winemaking, i.e. it is used in making ALL wines. There are many strains, which are thought to have different subtle effects on the wine, but all wine uses this yeast as the pri...
by Wes Barton
June 8th, 2019, 6:59 pm
Forum: Offline Planner
Topic: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL June 17 - Donato
Replies: 152
Views: 3835

Re: SF Bay Area/Peninsula OL June!

No one has a Don Zerly (TM) light anymore.
by Wes Barton
June 8th, 2019, 6:33 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The Inexorable Rise of Wine Prices
Replies: 30
Views: 2657

Re: The Inexorable Rise of Wine Prices

Trawling through Wine-Searcher's database... So, it appears they're only looking at prices of wines listed on their site, as well as not factoring production volume. Then, is it even the lowest price listed or some average that includes the high-ball listings? I agree with Dan, the real average is ...
by Wes Barton
June 8th, 2019, 11:59 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: This puts Spinal Tap to shame
Replies: 20
Views: 1940

Re: This puts Spinal Tap to shame

Very innovative! No one thought to simply add the critics scores together to get a bigger score before. So simple, so genius!

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