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IlkkaL

I am too young and new to this wine game to have those stories of buying a bottle of Lafite for a penny but for this particular bottle I did pay 19.90€ (not discounted) in 2013 which is certainly low for a Gevrey by today’s standards. Considering that I find this a perfectly decent drop and nice mid...

IlkkaL

My son was born three weeks ago and suffice to say there has not been much time to concentrate on wining and dining of late. Today I felt like I deserved to have a glass of something decent and popped a NSG from a producer new to me but often mentioned here. I was surprised by the strong oak signat...

IlkkaL

My son was born three weeks ago and suffice to say there has not been much time to concentrate on wining and dining of late. Today I felt like I deserved to have a glass of something decent and popped a NSG from a producer new to me but often mentioned here. I was surprised by the strong oak signatu...

IlkkaL

Thanks for the note! I’ve only had this one young but agree that it is a super example of the appellation. Regarding the part bolded/the quality in question Vernay’s top bottling must be mentioned - probably the finest wine in the appellation and with a price tag reflecting that.

IlkkaL

And an addiction to polls. What's with all the abuse today? Stay out of my threads if you've got nothing nice to say. The polls are to bring a bunch of choices down to one. I have spread them out so as not to not inundate the board with them. There's no accounting for assholes on this board. Bye by...

IlkkaL

I love this bottling. Why I don’t have any in the cellar is a mystery. I don’t think I’ve ever had a bottle older than 10 years but always enjoy it regardless of age.

IlkkaL

Super cool wine and so food friendly. Thanks for the note, I need to buy some.

IlkkaL

Well the Riservas (such as the Rocce Rosse) are without a doubt for the long haul but it is this mid level (Rocca de Piro and others) that I would be curious to know more about. My experience with the 2012 Stella Retica about a year ago was very similar to Dennis’ here - good drinking but I didn’t s...

IlkkaL

Thanks for the notes. Do you see the Rocca de Piro having upside? I think I have a bottle of the 2010 vintage lying around somewhere (Riserva-designated, although I believe it is still the same wine).

IlkkaL

My first Hungarian Pinot Blanc and what a wonderful ride. I understand that Weninger is relatively popular in European hipster/natural wine circles and based on this bottle I can see why. This is a private label bottling for the Vieta wine bar in Riga, Latvia. 2017 Weninger Soproni Vieta Weiß - Hung...

IlkkaL

Marc Hebrart and Gimonnet's rosé Champagnes are both quite affordable and of high quality. Food friendly, too.

IlkkaL

I thought the 13 tasted like a chard with some sour beer mixed in. Maybe technically "flawed" though I did enjoy it for what it was. Well well! Taken from my note: "...A notably sour, somewhat dirty nose, reminiscent of many oddball Belgian beers..." Tissot sells grapes to Cantillon. I had no idea ...

IlkkaL

I don't think I have yet experienced a Jura white that was strongly reminiscent of Burgundy. Even when topped up they still seem to have their own character. I've had this wine in the cooler 2013 vintage and it was markedly sour with some borderline unripe fruit expression - I could find some appea...

IlkkaL

I don't think I have yet experienced a Jura white that was strongly reminiscent of Burgundy. Even when topped up they still seem to have their own character. I've had this wine in the cooler 2013 vintage and it was markedly sour with some borderline unripe fruit expression - I could find some appeal...

IlkkaL

Austria, no doubt.

IlkkaL

I open on average zero bottles of Bordeaux a year but in 2020 I’ve been buying pretty much all the half bottles I’ve come across as the missus has focused on growing her belly. I don’t know this producer at all and had zero expectations for the bottle and as such popping it midweek to be drunk with ...

IlkkaL

I posted some takeaways from the trip in an Austria thread at the time; here’s a link. https://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=156647#p2644927 It doesn’t include tasting notes. As I recall, many of the 2017s were in the 13.5-14% alc range and were showing it at the time. Ott was an...

IlkkaL

Thanks, Ilkka. I don’t know why these wines don’t get more love (record skip). I had the pleasure of tasting the 2017 lineups at 8 famous Austrian domaines during a visit in 2018. Ott was the best of the bunch. They make almost exclusively gv but I just opened their one riesling earlier this week; ...

IlkkaL

Zárate is a good pick. Remelluri Blanco is perhaps the best Spanish white on the fruity end of the spectrum? If not at least it’s pretty damn amazing.

IlkkaL

Thanks to the discussion on Bueker’s recent thread about Austrian wines and how rarely we drink them despite the high quality I felt almost obligated to open something Austrian. I haven’t drunk too much Ott in my time but I think I’ve enjoyed them all thus far. This is very likely the best one I’ve ...

IlkkaL

Ilkka, The Grauburgunder is worth checking out. The various Mueller-Thurgau and Weissburgunder are less successful. I've seen many good notes for the Weiss u. Grau but have yet to try it. Cool, thanks. Only seeing the Müller-Thurgau Buntsandstein right now besides the Spätburgunders but will give t...

IlkkaL

It’s weird. I go long stretches between bottles of Austrian wine, but every time I have one I am really happy with it. Not sure why I don’t drink more. I think it's the same for all of us who are fans of Austrian wines (except for those who actually live there). I personally seemingly "forget" abou...

IlkkaL

Any thoughts of if this would benefit from age? I don't think I have enough experience with this school of Pinot Noir to really know for sure but based on how well it is drinking right now without any preparing (decanting/slow ox etc) whatsoever I don't think I would necessarily buy more for the ce...

IlkkaL

I had completely forgot about this bottle since my last experience with the producer was not that fantastic. The producer seems to split opinions somewhat with some appreciating the ”purity and transparency” and some thinking that there’s just not that much there to be excited about. My previous exp...

IlkkaL

I have to say I am a bit surprised how little faith some here have in "normal people's" ability to appreciate authentic European wines when served with matching food. I mean American people do travel to Europe, right? Do these people then struggle mightily in say Paris/Rome when served a wine from ...

IlkkaL

Does it also apply to half bottles? If it does the Billecart-Salmon Brut Rosé would be reasonably attractive.

IlkkaL

Lots of great suggestions here on the reds. I have to say I am a bit surprised how little faith some here have in "normal people's" ability to appreciate authentic European wines when served with matching food. I mean American people do travel to Europe, right? Do these people then struggle mightil...

IlkkaL

I have to say I am a bit surprised how little faith some here have in "normal people's" ability to appreciate authentic European wines when served with matching food. I mean American people do travel to Europe, right? Do these people then struggle mightily in say Paris/Rome when served a wine from n...

IlkkaL

Maybe a Beaujolais like Fleurie or Brouilly? Another option could be a bright, crunchy Sangiovese like Pian del Ciampolo.

IlkkaL

I was in a tasting group for 15 years which met every month. Now, granted, this group had cheeses and bread. However we hated all Sauvignon Blanc tastings (and I like the variety) until members stopped showing up and we abandoned them. I don't blame you/them really. I like to drink Sauvignon with f...

IlkkaL

Arjan Stavast wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2020, 3:06 am

Thanks for the tips! Have ordered some domaine des Ardoisières to try it out. Will let you know my degree of enthusiasm when tasting

Cool, looking forward to your note. It's been a while since I had their wines but I've enjoyed them in both colors.

IlkkaL

Maybe I live inside a bubble but I don’t consider any of the things you mention all that nerdy really. Almost everything Otto F has ever blinded me with has been way more nerdy. Moravia Agria from Spain? Skin contact field blend of Timorasso, Verdea, Bosco, Riesling and Chasselas from Piemonte? 40y...

IlkkaL

I was in a tasting group for 15 years which met every month. Now, granted, this group had cheeses and bread. However we hated all Sauvignon Blanc tastings (and I like the variety) until members stopped showing up and we abandoned them. I don't blame you/them really. I like to drink Sauvignon with f...

IlkkaL

If you are looking for a number of drastically different Sancerres you could consider having the following: A typical steel-fermented one from for example Boulay or F. Cotat Alphonse Mellot Generation XIX (fairly big with some oak) Sebastien Riffault Akméniné (the freaky end of the appellation) Hey...

IlkkaL

Maybe I live inside a bubble but I don’t consider any of the things you mention all that nerdy really. Almost everything Otto F has ever blinded me with has been way more nerdy. Moravia Agria from Spain? Skin contact field blend of Timorasso, Verdea, Bosco, Riesling and Chasselas from Piemonte? 40yo...

IlkkaL

I am struggling with the same thing and this is the only reason why I am not buying more Riesling. Only a problem with my wine fridge, not with my off site cellar but, alas, the latter one is damn near full at this point.

IlkkaL

I second Piuze and would add Pattes Loup- Thomas Pico- Still relatively affordable lol Relative indeed! I was looking to re-buy some Butteaux as I found the 2013 so enjoyable at 30 € a bottle but lo and behold the price has pretty much doubled ever since and now costs what I paid for 2016 Dauvissat...

IlkkaL

I like Samuel Billaud, Patrick Piuze and Isabelle & Denis Pommier at the village level both for style and value. I suppose none of them is as steely as Louis Michel but still to me they come off quite classic.

IlkkaL

Ethan H wrote: ↑
January 16th, 2020, 2:07 am
Overnight delivery is 15/EUR a case within France and I think not that much more expensive to other parts of Europe.

You shortly got me excited there but turns out it's 58€/12 bottles to Finland

IlkkaL

Thanks for the tasting notes Ilkka [cheers.gif] Cavallotto has been one of my all-time favorite producers for several years now. I actually was supposed to visit for the 3rd time in this past June, but COVID-19 saw to it that wouldn't happen.... I've visited twice, and had the chance to spend 3 hou...

IlkkaL

I opened my bottle of 2017 Julien Cecillon Cornas Saint Pierre last night. This is very fine Cornas. Big floral and stony nose with lurking deep blue-black fruit with a salty/briny edge, very aromatic. With air and some swirling the palate follows the nose, with semi-juicy fruit and a superb savory...

IlkkaL

Thanks for the early look, Ilkka. I, too, have been exploring m ore Nebbiolo lately, and dip more frequently into this range. I have (2) of these '16s and have been holding off. I might check on one soon, and they leave the other for a while as you said. Thanks fro the note. Looking forward to your...

IlkkaL

I'm really enjoying Nebbiolo right now and have been trying this (price) level from the likes Elio Sandri, Nervi, Brovia and Roagna most recently. The quality here is splendid but stylewise this is by far the most muscular and powerful of the group and it is not even close. Nothing playful or light-...

IlkkaL

My note on the 2009 Riserva: 2009 Cantina dei Produttori Nebbiolo di Carema Carema Riserva - Italy, Piedmont, Northern Piedmont, Carema (11.3.2015) Decanted for 1,5h. Quite transparent and already a bit brownish in the glass. On the nose as classic and recognizable as it gets: lots of bold red fruit...

IlkkaL

Thanks, Ikka! I hear you. Foillard is a no-brainer for me and I have mags of 14, thankfully. I don't buy as much Cru Beaujolias as I once did, so I am not totally in tune with recent vintages. This one seems to have shown as many have said 15s will/do. Cheers. Not related to the wines - I'm just st...

IlkkaL

No prior experience with this producer but apparently they are one of the most notable names in Côte Chalonnaise. I’ve enjoyed Aligoté from the likes of De Moor and Roulot and my early take is that 2017 seems like an attractive vintage in Burgundy so I bought this bottle without much hesitation. Gla...

IlkkaL

Thanks for the notes, a cool set of wines. But damn I hate to read notes on traditionally great Beaujolais wines in these recent hot vintages; the 2014 Corcelette was absolutely fantastic, one of the best Bojos I’ve had likely.

IlkkaL

I can't even dream of being able to travel again with how the situation is developing in Europe but for sure I too feel the longing for Paris and France in general. Everyday on Instagram I come across of something that reminds me of my second home - most lately some posts from a restaurant called L...

IlkkaL

I can't even dream of being able to travel again with how the situation is developing in Europe but for sure I too feel the longing for Paris and France in general. Everyday on Instagram I come across of something that reminds me of my second home - most lately some posts from a restaurant called Le...

IlkkaL

Just thought I'd post my note on the 2017 here. I really liked it. 2017 Julien Cecillon St. Joseph Babylone (France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph) - 9/28/2020 A newish producer, and very new to me - this is my first go-round with Cécillon's wines. According to the importer (Paris Wine Company)...

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