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by William Kelley
March 28th, 2020, 12:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Beaujolais for drinking at release?
Replies: 16
Views: 282

Re: Beaujolais for drinking at release?

Brandon - I think your understanding is incorrect. There has been Beaujolais - I'm assuming you mean Gamay, that aged well as long as there has been Pinot Noir that aged well. In times past most wines were consumed young in part because they didn't have bottles. So you keep tapping the barrel and b...
by William Kelley
March 28th, 2020, 12:12 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 1971 Remy Latricieres - Should I Audouze it?
Replies: 2
Views: 157

Re: 1971 Remy Latricieres - Should I Audouze it?

But stand it up a week in advance to let the sediment settle out; and then pour carefully to avoid disturbing the sediment in so far as possible when serving.

Never had the '71 but the '76 was excellent recently. And yes, likely a late release from the domaine.
by William Kelley
March 27th, 2020, 4:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

Touché :) I think you make a really good point regarding the stylistic leanings towards the Rhône and Burgundy, although before 2015 I mostly felt (either rightly or not) that these differences were terroir driven rather than vintage driven. Just saw the rather rare Lapierre Cuvée Camille this week...
by William Kelley
March 26th, 2020, 10:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Hacks for evaluating current release wine
Replies: 39
Views: 1499

Re: Hacks for evaluating current release wine

Btw, when I first read the subject line of this thread, I assumed it was a derogatory reference to wine writers.
by William Kelley
March 26th, 2020, 10:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

these are wines that will give a great deal of immediate pleasure. What if one's idea of pleasure in the context of Beaujolais equals high acidity, moderate alcohol and overwhelming freshness? [snort.gif] On another note just bought my first bottle of 2018 Bojo: Régnié "Les Châtillons" from a newco...
by William Kelley
March 26th, 2020, 9:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

Okay, so I have the 1926 vines cuvée of Delys in front of me in the glass. Lots of blackberries, cherries and plums on the nose, which is pretty primary and fruit-driven. Full-bodied, ample and succulent on the palate, with quite a lot of powdery and cuvée-typical tannin that asserts itself on the b...
by William Kelley
March 26th, 2020, 8:56 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

Just about to open the bottle so the moment of truth arrives. But, Robert, can you confirm you opened the "Vieilles Vignes de 1926"? Because in 2018, Daniel also made a young vine Delys bottling which is labeled as merely Delys.
by William Kelley
March 26th, 2020, 5:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Hacks for evaluating current release wine
Replies: 39
Views: 1499

Re: Hacks for evaluating current release wine

Best hack - a proven track record. It's far easier to predict future greatness, if the previous releases showed this. The caveat here is that it's only true if there is some sort of meaningful continuity in winemaking practices. It would be easy to think of plenty of producers in France where the l...
by William Kelley
March 26th, 2020, 2:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Hacks for evaluating current release wine
Replies: 39
Views: 1499

Re: Hacks for evaluating current release wine

Of course, balance is to some extent in the eye of the beholder, but that has to be the single most important factor for extended aging. The other point is not to underestimate recently bottled wines that are tightly wound and a bit shy. I remember tasting some of Olivier Lamy's wines from barrel as...
by William Kelley
March 26th, 2020, 12:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Time to treat ourselves. Open a precious bottle
Replies: 141
Views: 8791

Re: Time to treat ourselves. Open a precious bottle

This post made me interested in burying some NVs for the long haul. Any particular characteristics that would lead them to age well? Dosage, base vintage, reserve proportion, alcohol level, large house vs. grower - any of these a factor? I think you're looking for serious raw materials and pretty i...
by William Kelley
March 25th, 2020, 11:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

So is the Corcelette Foudre 7 the only wine that has ever had the Foudre sub-designation? I pay attention sometimes. I buy across the range, so have some of all of the wines that come into my market. I have yet to be disappointed grabbing one over the other as a result of my limited focus on the di...
by William Kelley
March 25th, 2020, 3:34 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

The 2018 Coudert Roillette normale [which I believe received an yuge score from Tanzer] is very sauve & debonair for the first couple of days, but then it goes skanky on Day 3. I think that was me, actually! But Steve handed over Beaujolais to Josh Reynolds (who I think also liked the wine) a while...
by William Kelley
March 24th, 2020, 9:47 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2017 Rivers-Marie Summa Pinot Noir Sonoma Coast
Replies: 10
Views: 770

Re: TN: 2017 Rivers-Marie Summa Pinot Noir Sonoma Coast

I think even the Sonoma Coast bottling improves with a few years age. I don’t have a long enough tasting history on these wines to be definitive, but I would guess five years might be good for the Summa. Your thoughts? For me, more like eight years... Summa 2012 is really singing today. For more re...
by William Kelley
March 24th, 2020, 7:18 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

I would put this is in the user friendly, slurpable realm. Not a Vin du Gard as one might normally expect with this more pricey cuvee. It took me about 15 minutes to dig out a bottle from under numerous other cases that I had stacked on top of it, but I found it. Will try tomorrow night alongside F...
by William Kelley
March 24th, 2020, 7:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

William, how does the Delys compare to the other wines in the Bouland range in 2018, like Corcelette? I am still on the lookout for some of these. It's the deepest, richest, most muscular cuvée, and it's sometimes more like a young Cornas than a typical Morgon. The vines are extremely old, behind D...
by William Kelley
March 24th, 2020, 7:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

I *believe* I tried one of these a couple of months ago, but can't certify that it wasn't the '17. Whichever I tried, it was slurpable. Very user friendly for a Morgon, but I have found the Foudre 9 works for me from the back of the truck until it is gone. Cheers, fred He is now distinguishing cuvé...
by William Kelley
March 24th, 2020, 1:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe
Replies: 42
Views: 1399

Re: TN: 2018 Daniel Bouland Morgon Les Délys - Too Ripe

IMHO, the 2016 and 2017 versions of this cuvee was one of the wines of the vintages. While I have not had that many 2018s yet, this cuvee is too ripe. It’s not bad. It’s actually superficially tasty. But not classic, and just teeters over the edge. Low acid. Lacking energy and verve. Drink on the c...
by William Kelley
March 22nd, 2020, 6:16 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help with this burgundy list...
Replies: 20
Views: 1039

Re: Help with this burgundy list...

To be a contrarian, where are all these producers going to sell their wine if the bottom drops out of the global economy in 6 months? Not to mention retailers. I for one, am waiting. The old saw of "you can't catch a falling knife" in the stock market does not apply when this is a guillotine. HK / ...
by William Kelley
March 22nd, 2020, 12:27 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help with this burgundy list...
Replies: 20
Views: 1039

Re: Help with this burgundy list...

Bachelet's 2017s turned out brilliantly and will offer broad drinking windows, warmly recommended. The Cathiard 2017s are similarly exquisite and in the context of contemporary pricing for that domaine's wines, why not. And the Hudelot-Noëllat 2016s are great, adapted to extended cellaring if you ha...
by William Kelley
March 21st, 2020, 9:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
Replies: 12913
Views: 628862

Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?

1x 2017 Cédric Bouchard Val Villaine
1x 2012 Cédric Bouchard Côte Bechalin
1x 2015 Cédric Bouchard Les Ursules

This stuff is rationed now in Beaune or I would have taken multiples.
by William Kelley
March 21st, 2020, 9:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Time to treat ourselves. Open a precious bottle
Replies: 141
Views: 8791

Re: Time to treat ourselves. Open a precious bottle

If any of my suppliers has well stored twenty year old plus NV, I grab them and thank the gods. I have had incredible luck with a wide variety, and my favorite is Taittinger followed by Bollinger. Only one I stay away from is Piper, which does not seem to last Couldn't agree more! A top purchase a ...
by William Kelley
March 20th, 2020, 11:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Time to treat ourselves. Open a precious bottle
Replies: 141
Views: 8791

Re: Time to treat ourselves. Open a precious bottle

Congrats! I've not had older Champagne. Do they retain the bubbles at that age, or is it more like a still wine? Well stored 1990 vintage Champagne should still have plenty of mousse. Over time, it does dissipate but I've had original disgorgements from the '60s and '50s with a healthy pinpoint mou...
by William Kelley
March 19th, 2020, 12:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best overperforming wine you’ve ever had
Replies: 95
Views: 4658

Re: Best overperforming wine you’ve ever had

1966 Chevillot Savigny-Les-Beaune A.C. "Reserve des Caves de L'Hotel de la Poste" Purchased for $6 at a local wine shop's close-out table in January, 2015, and consumed two weeks later. Below is the note I posted that night after finishing the bottle: Fill was almost 3 inches below the cork, and th...
by William Kelley
March 18th, 2020, 9:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Dauvissat
Replies: 41
Views: 3025

Re: 2018 Dauvissat

Wow, a little surprised you still have so many of the 1996. The 96 was drinking beautifully a few years ago, although perhaps not yet tertiary. Tanzer tasted this within the last year, and after reading his notes, I could not help wondering if that bottling was starting to move past its prime (but ...
by William Kelley
March 18th, 2020, 8:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Philip Togni vertical with new notes
Replies: 33
Views: 1340

Re: Philip Togni vertical with new notes

A shame about the 1994 Mark. That, the 1991, and the 1992 were my favorite Tognis from the '90s. I am really impressed with these wines. Even the corked bottle showed plenty of promise. I think I will have to do a fairly comprehensive tasting when things settle down. I have nothing from the 1980s a...
by William Kelley
March 18th, 2020, 7:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Philip Togni vertical with new notes
Replies: 33
Views: 1340

Re: Philip Togni vertical with new notes

I've wondered how Togni stacks up against the classified growths of the '90s. My best auction purchase by far has been a case of six 1994 Togni and six 1994 Peter Michael Les Pavots. Each one of them still needs 2-3 hours in a decanter to open up. I'll need to have some friends over post-lockdown t...
by William Kelley
March 18th, 2020, 7:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Philip Togni vertical with new notes
Replies: 33
Views: 1340

Re: Philip Togni vertical with new notes

dteng wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 7:46 am
Has the style of Togni changed this past decade or still like in the 90’s?
He is one of my favorite producers in Cali.
I reckon they're a touch suppler when young but beyond that very little has changed.
by William Kelley
March 18th, 2020, 7:20 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Philip Togni vertical with new notes
Replies: 33
Views: 1340

Re: Philip Togni vertical with new notes

A shame about the 1994 Mark. That, the 1991, and the 1992 were my favorite Tognis from the '90s. The 1991 is probably my favorite of the decade, though I never drank them all side by side. I have a bottle in my cellar here in Beaune that at some point I intend to use to demolish a bottle of 1990 La...
by William Kelley
March 18th, 2020, 7:18 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Dauvissat
Replies: 41
Views: 3025

Re: 2018 Dauvissat

95 and 96 from half bottles were an issue for me beginning a decade ago. Still have a dozen. Mostly Clos. 96 and 08 are the two years with which I've had the most premox, yet also the years where, when drinking them in France and more particularly Chablis and in Beaune, I have never had an oxidized...
by William Kelley
March 17th, 2020, 9:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Dauvissat
Replies: 41
Views: 3025

Re: 2018 Dauvissat

My notion was that even a little malolactic activity in bottle might burn up the wines' free sulfur and make them more susceptible to oxidation... But it would be interesting to have a chemist's perspective on that. Last night, with a friend who buys direct from the domaine, I drank a pristine 2005 ...
by William Kelley
March 13th, 2020, 8:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Love a good Banc
Replies: 6
Views: 642

Re: Love a good Banc

The 2015 Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey Saint-Aubin Le Banc glistens in the glass in a most inviting way. There's just the right amount of smoky mineral reduction. It is richly fruited, loaded with citrus of all persuasion. It possesses a crystalline quality and is direct, intense and finishes so fresh an...
by William Kelley
March 11th, 2020, 9:02 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: CA Pinot vs Burgundy — why are critics kinder to CA?
Replies: 112
Views: 4268

Re: CA Pinot vs Burgundy — why are critics kinder to CA?

This is a professionally interesting discussion, though also a bit of a rabbit warren (when I want to avoid getting into it, when people ask me about scoring, my stock reply is that, being British, I score out of 20 and then simply multiply by five). In the Médoc, where the existing hierarchy is the...
by William Kelley
March 11th, 2020, 1:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: anybody traveling in France?
Replies: 99
Views: 6218

Re: anybody traveling in France?

If you're going to make claims like that, you should provide a citation. It seems from the story in post #32 that a Chinese visitor in Beaune died of a heart attack and that, out of caution, 30 others in the same tour group were briefly quarantined until the cause of death was determined. Bourgogne...
by William Kelley
March 10th, 2020, 7:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: anybody traveling in France?
Replies: 99
Views: 6218

Re: anybody traveling in France?

Someone in the Coronavirus thread in the Travel section posted that there are 30-something cases in Beaune. (Don't know if this is correct.) You might want to follow up with him. Beaune is about the size of one neighborhood in Seattle, i.e., a tiny fraction. Pretty sure that this is not correct. I ...
by William Kelley
March 9th, 2020, 7:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2006 Robert Michel Coteaux
Replies: 2
Views: 215

Re: 2006 Robert Michel Coteaux

Agree on your note, but I love the 2006 Geynale even more, I have to say. From my cellar, the Geynale is beginning to enter the zone and is a lot less monolithic than it was six or seven years ago. I still have the better part of two cases I think.
by William Kelley
March 6th, 2020, 1:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: High alcohol wines and aging
Replies: 165
Views: 8284

Re: High alcohol wines and aging

That 1955 number seems weird to me. 3.81 pH typically points to 13.5% in Bordeaux and 15% in Napa. It seems head scratching to me that somehow Ducru [you mean La Mission] picked at 20.5 Brix and got that pH. Impossible actually. I wonder if that bottle was low fill when you opened it and if perhaps...
by William Kelley
March 5th, 2020, 9:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Extended barrel age VS early bottling
Replies: 28
Views: 1417

Re: Extended barrel age VS early bottling

Except for the Vieilles Vignes! [/quote] Hi William, the VV is quite special (I tried once from barrel and once from bottle) but also different and old Trollat vines from St Jean de muzols. I’m actually interested in examples of the same wine (Or at least as similar as possible) from the same vinta...
by William Kelley
March 5th, 2020, 8:41 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: High alcohol wines and aging
Replies: 165
Views: 8284

Re: High alcohol wines and aging

two more data points, just to put all this in the public domain:

1990 Ducru Beaucaillou: 12.16%, TA 0.52, pH 3.56
1955 La Mission Haut Brion (one of my all-time favorite Bordeaux): 12.1%, TA 0.58, pH 3.81
by William Kelley
March 5th, 2020, 8:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Extended barrel age VS early bottling
Replies: 28
Views: 1417

Re: Extended barrel age VS early bottling

I’ve been thinking about my visit to gonon for the past 12 months. They have one set of neutral barrels, so they put everything in tank before the next harvest. The wines are so complex and delicious. I just want to evaluate the pros/cons to more time in barrel. I’d love to include the tercero Gren...
by William Kelley
March 5th, 2020, 8:24 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Extended barrel age VS early bottling
Replies: 28
Views: 1417

Re: Extended barrel age VS early bottling

There are plenty of comparisons to be made, but very few instances where barrel maturation (and let's say "maturation" rather than "aging", as a better translation of "élevage") is the only modified variable. You could compare e.g. Niellon (bottled just before the next harvest) with Coche-Dury (bott...
by William Kelley
March 5th, 2020, 7:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A Coupla Cornas
Replies: 12
Views: 1233

Re: A Coupla Cornas

I still look like Daffy Duck after lighting an exploding cigar, but I quite enjoyed the experience! I agree that the Geynale is a clear step up Glen. Having met Jeremy, I can attest to the verisimilitude of the comparison. But green to hear the 2017 Clape is showing well! Thanks to a friend with a ...
by William Kelley
March 5th, 2020, 6:58 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2002 p2
Replies: 6
Views: 773

Re: 2002 p2

Just had it last week. I don't see an issue opening it now. Way better than 2002 regular. Rep told me they sometimes do different dosage things with the different releases. To me, the divergence between 2002 P1 (as we may call the original disgorgement for clarity) and 2002 P2 are not very pronounc...
by William Kelley
March 5th, 2020, 4:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2002 p2
Replies: 6
Views: 773

Re: 2002 p2

Yes, and I'd hold off on opening.
by William Kelley
March 5th, 2020, 7:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Tete de cuvee roses
Replies: 28
Views: 1182

Re: Tete de cuvee roses

I think it varies on a cuvée by cuvée basis. The Cristal Rosé, for example, is from only three or four of the best plots of the 25 or so that are candidates for inclusion in Cristal. So it is effectively a tête de cuvée of Cristal that happens to be a very delicate rosé color... And it does merit th...
by William Kelley
March 3rd, 2020, 12:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
Replies: 12913
Views: 628862

Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?

Panic buying because of the coronavirus, picked up a magnum of 1980 Tollot Beaut Corton-Bressandes and some bottles of 1983 Drouin Valmur...
by William Kelley
March 2nd, 2020, 1:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Premox % from 540 white Burgundy tasting notes
Replies: 44
Views: 2577

Re: Premox % from 540 white Burgundy tasting notes

“Our main objective was to get rid of the traditional corks and replace them with DIAM closures, which we feel more confident about." I was at that tasting, and that is not what I remember Brice de La Morandière saying. Of course, I could be misremembering; or Steve and Brice might have exchanged s...
by William Kelley
March 2nd, 2020, 1:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?
Replies: 12913
Views: 628862

Re: What is YOUR most recent wine purchase?

An eclectic few:

1x 1964 Rapet Corton
1x 2001 Bongran Mâcon-Viré (pre Viré-Clessé AOC)
2x 1988 Michelot Nuits Richemonne magnums
by William Kelley
February 27th, 2020, 11:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2001 Coche Rougeots/1991 Bertheau Bonnes Mares...
Replies: 10
Views: 623

Re: 2001 Coche Rougeots/1991 Bertheau Bonnes Mares...

Coche-Dury's 2001s are quite open and expressive, and I am not sure an extended decant is necessarily the way forward. It won't do the wine any harm, but you might loose a bit of aromatic expression, and I do not think you will really gain anything.
by William Kelley
February 24th, 2020, 12:56 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Anything good from '81?
Replies: 54
Views: 1743

Re: Anything good from '81?

In Châteauneuf-du-Pape, I'd argue that 1981 is the best vintage of the decade, along with 1989. Beaucastel is brilliant, but so are many other wines, and properly conserved bottles are still very much in their prime. The 1981 Krug is probably the wine-of-the-vintage in Champagne. Burgundy is quite t...
by William Kelley
February 23rd, 2020, 12:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Taittinger Comtes de Champagne - any copycats?
Replies: 24
Views: 1466

Re: Taittinger Comtes de Champagne - any copycats?

In addition to the fruit origins, which have already been touched upon, those toasty, autolytic aromatic signatures (likely more properly Maillard reactions between amino acids from autolysis and sugar in the liqueur d'expedition, a subject upon which some interesting research is currently under way...

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