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William Kelley

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑
July 20th, 2019, 3:30 pm

That’s beautiful!

It tastes as good as it looks!

William Kelley

I'm collecting the old reds, personally. Drank '71 CSJ and Clos de la Boudriotte this year, and picked up a '61 of the former and a '69 of the latter. Not expensive when one finds them and old Pierre Ramonet knew how to vinify red wine, that's for sure. Me too where I can. I’m guessing you are goin...

William Kelley

A correct bottle of the 1947 should be quite a lot richer and more muscular than the 1981, and look like this:

William Kelley

D@vid Bu3ker wrote: ↑
July 20th, 2019, 9:23 am
Who is importing Soutiran these days?

Sacred Thirst Selections and SoilAir Selections

William Kelley

Based on the lower appellation wines, 2017 is also looking like a terrific success chez Ramonet. Will be tasting the range later this year and can't wait. don't fan the flames, William! Pricing is already stratospheric. This Clos du Cailleret is a fairly recent offering. I’ve posted on it also—and ...

William Kelley

Based on the lower appellation wines, 2017 is also looking like a terrific success chez Ramonet. Will be tasting the range later this year and can't wait.

William Kelley

Where did you find this? A rare bottle for sure.

William Kelley

Cleaning. As someone who makes a bit of wine as well as writing about it, I warmly second this. Though probably the least glamorous situation I ever saw in the wine world was a winery in Burgundy where the winery and neighboring house were plumbed into the same sewerage system, and that system back...

William Kelley

One of the first producers to plant high-quality selections of Pinot Noir from the Côte d'Or in the Côte Chalonnaise, breaking the vicious cycle that long held back that region's wines. 2017s are also very tasty, a bit more open-knit and front-loaded than 2016s, but for wines that will mostly be dru...

William Kelley

All right burgophiles here’s some more available...after 30 bottles of Chevillon I’m getting tapped out, but what screams out here. 2015 Domaine Jerome Chezeaux Nuits St. Georges Les Charbonnieres - 45 2015 Domaine Michel Gros Vosne Romanee Clos des Reas 1er Cru -110 2016 Domaine Pierre-Yves Colin-...

William Kelley

Buy? 2016 chaignots - 65 2016 bousselots - 65 2016 les Cailles - 85, 2014 - 70 2016 les Perrieres - 65 2016 les roncieres - 65, 2015 - 50 2016 nsg vv - 65, 2014 - 60 2015 Les Charbonnieres - 50 2014 St. George’s - 80 2014 les pruliers - 50 2014 les vaucrains - 50 Far from experienced here but seems...

William Kelley

1999 d'Auvenay Chevalier-Montrachet (in deference to the tropical climate)
Cantillon's Ganevat beer
The best spirit I ever had was a 1945 Fine de Champagne Cognac shipped by André Simon, so would go with that even though it's even more implausible than assembling a pallet of either of the others.

William Kelley

Any thoughts on the 06 Dauvissat Forest? Have an unopened case. I was served it entirely blind last year and guessed 07 Dauvissat Forest! Which is to say, it tastes more like 10+-year-old Dauvissat Forest than it does like 2006 Chablis; which is definitely a good thing. Now is a good time to check ...

William Kelley

Alan, They were the La Forest. I agree with John Stimson “2008 is very good but a bit richer and less classic.” I think a vintage to drink relatively early. Your bottle was certainly singing. Analytically, and to my palate, 2008 is very high in acidity as well as concentration, and Vincent regards ...

William Kelley

Did you see Jayson’s note on the 2013 Vatan with its game note? Spot on, too. I’m definitely popping a Beaujolais tonight! Did Bordeaux and a 93 Dunn Howell last night. I’m thinking a Lapierre Morgan Sans Soufre. Great thread to celebrated an “un-celebrated” wine. I have long wanted to do a blind t...

William Kelley

never seen this wine! Awesome. They have owned the vineyard for quite a while but only actually got around to planting it relatively recently. there is an 09 for sale via wine-searcher so must have been planted 04 or earlier since the first few vintages aren’t sold. Interesting. "Relatively" was in...

William Kelley

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2019, 10:45 pm
never seen this wine! Awesome.

They have owned the vineyard for quite a while but only actually got around to planting it relatively recently.

William Kelley

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑
July 14th, 2019, 5:54 am
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Frankly, think bigger. The whole river.

What would you pair with alligator in beurre blanc, Robert? I think for me it would have to be old Vatan...

William Kelley

Todd: I'm a Chablis Johnny-come-lately, as you may know, but I do have a mixed case of Sechet, Vaillons and Foret from the 2010 vintage. If I were tempted to pop one tomorrow for Bastille Day (which also happens to be my birthday), would you have a view on which one might be closest to peak? Vaillo...

William Kelley

There was some discussion earlier this year: https://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159640&p=2705152&hilit=Joseph+colin#p2705152 The 2017s showed well when I looked at them at the end of last year. William, Off the thread topic. Have you tried any of Pierre Girardin's wines yet? G...

William Kelley

There was some discussion earlier this year: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159640&p=2705152&hi ... n#p2705152

The 2017s showed well when I looked at them at the end of last year.

William Kelley

Larry Link wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2019, 10:18 am
I find that after about 8 years you can start to see La Forest from the trees. After Preuses it’s my favorite wine from his stable, and until recent vintages a bargain at $60.

nicely put!

William Kelley

Thanks for the note. At what age do generally like to drink the VD Forest? I've never had one with more than 10 years of age and I am sitting on some 08, 09 and 10. 08 is beginning to show very well now (oxidation issues aside, which I haven't experienced in France). Great vintage for Dauvissat, ma...

William Kelley

Kelly Walker wrote: ↑
July 11th, 2019, 10:57 pm
Had a 2005 Forest last night. It was singing!!! Poster child for why you age white Burgundy.

Yes, his 05s are in a nice place now, especially with an hour decant.

William Kelley

Which city are you based in? That makes a difference. My wife is from TX and we spend some of the year here so I may be able to help you with some contacts.

William Kelley

Two more basic Chablis you may want to try are by Christian Moreau and Moreau-Naudet. I am more sure about the Moreau-Naudet wines from 2015 and before. Stephane Moreau died in August of 2016. I understand his wife is now making the wine, but I have not tried any yet. They're still good! And very m...

William Kelley

I picked up a 2017 Domaine William Fevre Chablis at Costco recently ($25) to try. I decided to pair it in a “taste-off” with a 2015 Domaine Laroche Chablis Saint Martin (about the same price) which I also hadn’t tried yet. Poured small glasses of each for my wife and myself to go with our weekly ch...

William Kelley

Two more basic Chablis you may want to try are by Christian Moreau and Moreau-Naudet. I am more sure about the Moreau-Naudet wines from 2015 and before. Stephane Moreau died in August of 2016. I understand his wife is now making the wine, but I have not tried any yet. They're still good! And very m...

William Kelley

2012 was rhe last vintage imported into NZ William and ISO that is the latest vintage I own, When did the changes start? They have been incremental from around 2012 on, but most obvious with 2016 and 2017, especially the latter, as the suppler style of the vintage emphasizes the stylistic evolution...

William Kelley

What’s the scoop with the Reverdon bottling from Thivin? Hi Pat, the Reverdon 2017 is very nice, have had it a few times over the past 6 months. The vineyard is east facing opposite the domaine and sees no oak in élevage, only concrete to maximize fruit. It is refreshing, fruit-forward and juicy wi...

William Kelley

2009 Bernard Dugat-Py Vosne-Romanée Vieilles Vignes - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Vosne-Romanée (7/9/2019) Heavily reduced and supremely youthful. Plenty of meat and musk that makes way for intense black and red fruits with air. There's some floral spice and plenty of tar. It has serious build...

William Kelley

I think it's a learning curve. In the 90s, efforts were made in precisely the opposite direction: more Merlot was planted, canopy management was changed to give greater exposure to the sun, all because of difficulties in getting the stuff to ripen and of course the fruit was picked later. All that ...

William Kelley

My local retailer is carrying a producer that I have not tried before, any comments: 2017 Yohan Lardy Moulin-a-Vent Vieilles Vignes de 1903 I just grabbed more Bouland. What you really need is magnums of the Morgon Delys, Robert. How long do you hold the Delys in magnum, William, as a general matte...

William Kelley

Bought three cases myself. It's a terrific wine and arguably a bit undervalued. Note that because of higher-than-usual demand they ended up having to disgorge more, sooner than they had planned, and it really does need some time to bounce back from disgorgement. The bottles I tasted in the US from o...

William Kelley

Isn't that plot called La Goillotte? Have they had it renamed? Is that even possible? Actually it was the Clos Frantin - IIRC Pinault bought the old Domaine du Clos Frantin cuverie and cellars from Bichot. The wine hog has a very thorough article about it: http://winehog.org/vosne-clos-deugenie-unk...

William Kelley

Nathan Smyth wrote: ↑
July 5th, 2019, 10:44 pm
I take it "Eugenie" is Madame Pinault?

What was "Le Clos d'Eugenie" in the old Rene Engel days?

It's the one parcel they added to the domaine - a parcel just outside the new winery.

William Kelley

The Wine Advocate actually has very nice things to say about this Chateau, which I will admit to not being familiar with. William Kelley’s recent write-up? WK is certainly a fan of BAMA and has written articles about it in the past, but as far as I can see, he hasn't done so for TWA. The only menti...

William Kelley

Thoughts on if Bouchard did well with the 17 Val Vilaine? I’m assuming so, but thought I’d throw it out there. When I visited last month, we only went as recent as 16 Val Vilaine, which is superb. But in general, I think if Cédric bottles it, it's worth drinking. He is absolutely uncompromising at ...

William Kelley

They are releasing 8,000 magnums for the world. US release is slated for September 2019.

William Kelley

Michael Reiss wrote: ↑
July 1st, 2019, 9:03 am
Bursting Bubbles.

Great book on grower Champagne.

Have to second that, terrific book.

William Kelley

Shockingly, having tasted around 6,000 wines in my first year at The Wine Advocate, I would need an option for >16 on average. There are very few days when I don't taste. William — it must be hard to do that. I would imagine that wine must often feel like work to you. When I was an editor at The Ho...

William Kelley

Shockingly, having tasted around 6,000 wines in my first year at The Wine Advocate, I would need an option for >16 on average. There are very few days when I don't taste.

William Kelley

P@u1_M3nk3s wrote: ↑
June 29th, 2019, 8:48 pm

William Kelley wrote: ↑
June 29th, 2019, 9:56 am

P@u1_M3nk3s wrote: ↑
June 29th, 2019, 8:30 am
I never knew Raphet made a Corton-Charlemagne, Anyone else have experience with it?
Typo for Rapet?
That would make sense. However, I did check wine searcher and it shows a 2005 Raphet CC for sale in London.

...which is also a typo!

William Kelley

P@u1_M3nk3s wrote: ↑
June 29th, 2019, 8:30 am
I never knew Raphet made a Corton-Charlemagne, Anyone else have experience with it?

Typo for Rapet?

William Kelley

I don't think Clos de la Roche is walled in. Dominique Laurent makes an Intra Muros in some vintages Can only think that this is intended to denote that it comes from the original Clos de la Roche lieu-dit as opposed to the other lieux-dits that are part of the Clos de la Roche grand cru. As Levis ...

William Kelley

I can't say enough about the helpfulness of this board. Thanks to each and every one of you for these responses. I'll report back. (The full trip itinerary is 2 days in rural central France for a wedding, two days in Arbois, a day in Annecy and a day in Beaujolais.) Not enough time, but there are s...

William Kelley

Should also add the Auberge du Col du Truges in Villié-Morgon. It's a more rustic, old school place (the lavatory paper comes in books that look like they might have been bound by Gutenburg) that does a fabulous Coq au Vin. Likely won't be the weather for it, but it's a great traditional rural resta...

William Kelley

P@u1_M3nk3s wrote: ↑
June 24th, 2019, 6:59 pm
Lots of good options so far. I would be curious to try the ‘11 Desjourneys Moulin à Vent as well.

Nice wine but note that it's quite a lot oakier and chunkier than the wines Fabien is making today. He no longer uses any oak for his Beaujolais in fact.

William Kelley

Thanks so much to you both for the prompt and helpful responses. As long as I am soliciting help, if anyone had any must stop domaines or casual lunch spots in the area they’d point me to, I’m all ears. Currently have a visit scheduled with Thivin, which I’m preemptively thrilled about. Most domain...

William Kelley

I'll be eating at this this restaurant in the Beaujolais region in a few weeks. The list looks great and affordable, but I am only familiar with a few names. Anything from the Bojo section jump out as a gem? Thanks in advance. http://www.ecume-gourmande.fr/carte-vins-lecume-gourmande Plenty of opti...

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