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by R. Frankel
May 16th, 2019, 10:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Among the Big Houses, Who Makes the Best Corton Charlie
Replies: 18
Views: 959

Re: Among the Big Houses, Who Makes the Best Corton Charlie

In ‘15 I was really impressed by the Jadot and Faiveley (especially Faiveley). By comparison BdM was showing poorly. For ‘16 I’ve only tasted the Henri Boillot which really impressed me. More eye catching given the overall weakness of ‘16 whites at this year’s La Paulee.
by R. Frankel
May 16th, 2019, 8:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Tipping your Host on a Paid Tasting
Replies: 34
Views: 1402

Re: Tipping your Host on a Paid Tasting

Not sure what you mean by host/guide. For the four tastings (I assume at wineries) I wouldn’t tip. I’ve tasted at many wineries and these don’t usually feel like tipping moments. If I like the wine, I buy a bottle. If I like it a lot, I buy more. If you’ve hired a guide who is accompanying you or dr...
by R. Frankel
May 13th, 2019, 9:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Online wine auction offerings becoming sparse and pricey?
Replies: 50
Views: 2687

Re: Online wine auction offerings becoming sparse and pricey?

Auction offerings are certainly not sparse. In the US I'm seeing more breadth and depth come into market via auctions. Those with cellars of any size are seeing the market froth and selling. K&L is running 750 - 800 auctions a week, that seems very high. Zachy's is running more frequent in-person au...
by R. Frankel
May 11th, 2019, 11:41 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2016 Faiveley Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru “Les Cazetiers”
Replies: 6
Views: 559

Re: TN: 2016 Faiveley Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru “Les Cazetiers”

I’m with Craig on this - solid buy if in your price range. Of the lower tiers I’ve really loved the Mercurys. I’ve tasted some ‘15s and ‘16s including the Cazetiers and that turned me into a buyer. If you can find the Clos des Cortons or Mazis at decent prices they are what passes for good value GCs...
by R. Frankel
May 11th, 2019, 8:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The Comprehensive Hypothetical Napa Classified Growth Lists (and what we might consider to be the current cult wines)
Replies: 104
Views: 4059

Re: The Comprehensive Hypothetical Napa Classified Growth Lists (and what we might consider to be the current cult wines

I think JJK’s list is pretty close to what I think makes sense in terms of classified producers. I haven’t tasted them all and would probably move some up and down a bit but the overall approach seems right to me. But. Schrader owned zero vines before it was bought by Constellation in 2017. Now that...
by R. Frankel
May 10th, 2019, 11:38 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Less expensive Pinot Noirs from many producers are often lighter and better than the more expensive bottlings
Replies: 42
Views: 2242

Re: Less expensive Pinot Noirs from many producers are often lighter and better than the more expensive bottlings

At first glance I thought this was a pure troll thread. But, no. This comes down to your own subjective POV on what “better” is. I’d think ‘lighter’ wines are usually considered less complex. And isn’t complexity generally considered better? So I’d vote no on this thread. Of course if you like ligh...
by R. Frankel
May 10th, 2019, 10:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Less expensive Pinot Noirs from many producers are often lighter and better than the more expensive bottlings
Replies: 42
Views: 2242

Re: Less expensive Pinot Noirs from many producers are often lighter and better than the more expensive bottlings

At first glance I thought this was a pure troll thread. But, no. This comes down to your own subjective POV on what “better” is. I’d think ‘lighter’ wines are usually considered less complex. And isn’t complexity generally considered better? So I’d vote no on this thread. Of course if you like light...
by R. Frankel
May 6th, 2019, 8:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2012 Huet secs have shit the bed
Replies: 69
Views: 3494

Re: 2012 Huet secs have shit the bed

I have some of these (been buying mostly Le Mont sec since 2010) and will be sad if some bottles are bad. I’ll pop a ‘12 and ‘13 soon to see. I have opened a ‘12 as recently as last year and it was fine, as expected. Any my stash of ‘02s (last one consumed in 2016) were all good. I’m not saying ther...
by R. Frankel
May 4th, 2019, 2:29 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Didn't want to like it but...
Replies: 39
Views: 2326

Re: Didn't want to like it but...

Brunello Gelato in Montalcino. Weird, dark, bitter, intense. Not really a dessert thing but on a hot summer day it held its own.
by R. Frankel
May 3rd, 2019, 12:37 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are you buying white burg to cellar for 10+ yrs?
Replies: 66
Views: 2555

Re: Are you buying white burg to cellar for 10+ yrs?

While I’ve loved the aged white Burgs I’ve had, the price times the risk has really held me back. So my strategy now is to buy 1ers and drink them at 5-10 years old, village slightly shorter and Bourgogne Blanc for near-term consumption. PYCM 2017 BB for example is absolutely delightful right now.
by R. Frankel
May 2nd, 2019, 8:05 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Top 5 burgs you would store for the next 10 years
Replies: 47
Views: 2306

Re: Top 5 burgs you would store for the next 10 years

Most of the wines discussed here can be found in many back vintages under $150. It seems like the Grand Crus appreciate more in cost, though this is a very rough guess. The harder part is finding the wines. But I’d recommend looking for these kinds of bottlings from vintages like 1997, 1998, 2000, 2...
by R. Frankel
May 1st, 2019, 7:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Top 5 burgs you would store for the next 10 years
Replies: 47
Views: 2306

Re: Top 5 burgs you would store for the next 10 years

Many good suggestions here. I’d add Bertheau Charmes, Clerget Caillerets, Hudelot Noellat Charmes, Leroux Vosne-Romanee, and more obscure, Francois Lumpp A Vigne Rouge, has really impressed me. And I’ll vote further for Gouges, Faiveley, and Arnoux.
by R. Frankel
May 1st, 2019, 10:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are you buying and 2017 wines or passing
Replies: 12
Views: 810

Re: Are you buying and 2017 wines or passing

Also buying very selectively, eg VHR and Realm, but cutting back from previous years. However, this more reflects budget and rationality leading me to slow down buying everywhere rather than particular vintage issues.
by R. Frankel
May 1st, 2019, 10:31 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Kudos to Galloni- Unique approach to dealing with Bordeaux
Replies: 16
Views: 2008

Re: Kudos to Galloni- Unique approach to dealing with Bordeaux

I’m all for Vinous defending their property. I, too, am a subscriber and find it consistently very useful. But I was surprised to see Galloni leading this article with his complaint about being robbed. Perhaps by leading this way he hopes to dissuade future violations. Sadly in the era of cut and pa...
by R. Frankel
April 29th, 2019, 9:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2014 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs Côte de Val Vilaine
Replies: 30
Views: 953

Re: TN: 2014 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs Côte de Val Vilaine

My favorite so far has been the Ursules, seems like a step up from the Val Vilaine. But I’ve enjoyed both and have been buying across the range. Would be great to do a horizontal at some point, I’ve never had the opportunity to to a side-by-side tasting. Somehow I missed the ‘13s though :(. Agreed....
by R. Frankel
April 29th, 2019, 10:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2014 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs Côte de Val Vilaine
Replies: 30
Views: 953

Re: TN: 2014 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs Côte de Val Vilaine

My favorite so far has been the Ursules, seems like a step up from the Val Vilaine. But I’ve enjoyed both and have been buying across the range. Would be great to do a horizontal at some point, I’ve never had the opportunity to to a side-by-side tasting.

Somehow I missed the ‘13s though :(.
by R. Frankel
April 28th, 2019, 11:15 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Thoughts on this list of PYCM lower end 2017’s
Replies: 14
Views: 1212

Re: Thoughts on this list of PYCM lower end 2017’s

Btw I’m part way through a half case of the Bourgogne Blanc and it’s a pretty tasty wine right now. If you are looking for a wine to drink this year you couldn’t go too far wrong.
by R. Frankel
April 28th, 2019, 6:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How would you rank the five first growths
Replies: 54
Views: 2022

Re: How would you rank the five first growths

Based on what I’ve had (and not a huge sample size, especially on Lafite)

Latour
Margaux
Haut Brion
Lafite
Mouton
by R. Frankel
April 24th, 2019, 10:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best wine travel destinations for the budget-minded?
Replies: 53
Views: 2199

Re: Best wine travel destinations for the budget-minded?

So many great choices, how does one decide? I would think a lot about food. All the European regions discussed have distinctive wonderful local cuisines. If you’ve never been to Europe you’ll be shocked how good the meals are, and how reasonably priced. Pick your favorite cuisine, then go see how pe...
by R. Frankel
April 23rd, 2019, 8:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best wine travel destinations for the budget-minded?
Replies: 53
Views: 2199

Re: Best wine travel destinations for the budget-minded?

Tons of good suggestions here. I'll add a few. Italy and France are big countries with wine regions all over the place. In France the Languedoc is known as a cheap wine source, but there are lots of up and coming small producers that are making wonderful wines. The Loire, Provence and Jura are bette...
by R. Frankel
April 22nd, 2019, 9:15 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A night of excellent Volnays
Replies: 5
Views: 728

Re: A night of excellent Volnays

Thanks Howard, this is a part of Burgundy that I've been getting very interested in the least couple of years. That d'Angerville 1er is a real favorite! Great value and very consistent.
by R. Frankel
April 22nd, 2019, 9:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Chart of Bordeaux temperatures rising
Replies: 5
Views: 365

Re: Chart of Bordeaux temperatures rising

While I'm sure this is a fine way to understand high level change over time in Bordeaux, I don't know that it helps us all that much (if we're trying to understand the impact on quality and production of fine wine). More interesting would be things that specifically relate to wine, and this requires...
by R. Frankel
April 16th, 2019, 3:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: April Frost in Burgundy
Replies: 64
Views: 3824

Re: April Frost in Burgundy

I wish people would just stay on the topic at hand - what's going on with frost and other issues in Burgundy this year. For those of us who care about the region, its people, its products, and its health as a community this is information we'd love to get, and is hard to find any other way than thro...
by R. Frankel
April 11th, 2019, 10:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Pessac/Graves
Replies: 40
Views: 1708

Re: Pessac/Graves

The traditional wines needed time. I would be looking to backfill. Look pre-2003 DDC, Haut Bailly, and Latour Haut Brion. For Pape Clement pre-1998. That was the first year the shift became evident. A few vintage generalizations, mileage to vary by wine. Don't be afraid of supposed off vintages. 19...
by R. Frankel
April 9th, 2019, 1:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Bottle Heft- Do you care?
Replies: 65
Views: 1976

Re: Bottle Heft- Do you care?

I’m in agreement with the collective wisdom here. Lighter glass, standard size please. I don’t care about the color.

But - who is the market? If it’s mostly a mailing list, go cheaper!
by R. Frankel
April 8th, 2019, 5:35 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gallo buys Clos du Bois, Black Box, Estancia, Mark West, Wild Horse, Franciscan, Ravenswood + 23 more!
Replies: 73
Views: 2982

Re: Gallo buys Clos du Bois, Black Box, Estancia, Mark West, Wild Horse, Franciscan, Ravenswood + 23 more!

What you don't see as a consumer is the fact that Gallo has one of the best National Off and On teams, the best CatMan team and still writes the sets in most places. Add the skills above that you mention and this is a very big deal, expect to see a lot more of these in National restaurant and Groce...
by R. Frankel
April 8th, 2019, 2:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Envoyer is crushing it with Champagne these days
Replies: 1417
Views: 70577

Re: Envoyer is crushing it with Champagne these days

I've only had the 2010 Falmet Le Val Cornet and liked it a lot. Very good champagne for the price, my guess is that the NV is worth trying as well, especially at this price!
by R. Frankel
April 7th, 2019, 8:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Drinking In France Sucks
Replies: 55
Views: 4458

Re: Wine Drinking In France Sucks

Please accept my condolences. Seems like your group was feeling ill upon arrival in Paris. Only two bottles of wine??? Send in a medic!
by R. Frankel
April 6th, 2019, 11:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: This seems a little excessive, no? (UPDATED - it's not)
Replies: 41
Views: 2788

Re: This seems a little excessive, no?

Double decanting for young wines isn't ridiculous, though I wouldn't normally think to do it with a California Chardonnay. Standing upright for a couple of days is odder. Are there expected to be significant sediments in the wine? BTW I really like the Aubert Chards and have had many, young and old....
by R. Frankel
April 5th, 2019, 10:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Gift Giving Wines
Replies: 27
Views: 850

Re: Gift Giving Wines

Whatever they like. If you don't know what they like, something that might strike a chord, a memory, a previous experience. I recently gifted a bottle of Sauternes to a friend who I know almost never drinks sweet wine. But I remembered him talking about an early, long ago date with his wife. He was...
by R. Frankel
April 3rd, 2019, 5:31 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: On-Site vs Off-Site Storage Strategy
Replies: 48
Views: 1685

Re: On-Site vs Off-Site Storage Strategy

Just as an example ... I have room for about 50 bottles at home, and off site storage for the rest. A bigger fridge would be handy but that's what I have. I end up going to the off site every couple of months to restock, but it's very close by so not a major hassle. Alan's fridge - big enough to hou...
by R. Frankel
April 3rd, 2019, 1:05 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine as a Veblen Good?
Replies: 75
Views: 2159

Re: Wine as a Veblen Good?

The shift in this thread from Veblen good to marketing and substitution is a good indication that wine is not a Veblen good. A Veblen good is defined as a product with an upward-sloping demand curve, in other words, where an increase in price drives demand. That successful marketing can drive deman...
by R. Frankel
April 3rd, 2019, 12:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine as a Veblen Good?
Replies: 75
Views: 2159

Re: Wine as a Veblen Good?

On LVMH: I have no problem buying from big corporations, I do it all the time. Where do we all get our cars, electronics, electrical power, ibuprofen, etc. etc.? I try to buy from corporations that act ethically, are stewards of the planet, treat their employees well, but with these mega companies i...
by R. Frankel
April 3rd, 2019, 12:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine as a Veblen Good?
Replies: 75
Views: 2159

Re: Wine as a Veblen Good?

Wine as a status symbol is different from many such Veblen items in that it requires specialist knowledge to recognize the item in question. Only a wine geek would be wowed by a La Tâche, Leroy RSV, Henri Jayer anything, etc. Drive a Ferrari down any street and heads will turn. Not that flashing a ...
by R. Frankel
April 2nd, 2019, 7:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine as a Veblen Good?
Replies: 75
Views: 2159

Re: Wine as a Veblen Good?

Wine as a status symbol is different from many such Veblen items in that it requires specialist knowledge to recognize the item in question. Only a wine geek would be wowed by a La Tâche, Leroy RSV, Henri Jayer anything, etc. Drive a Ferrari down any street and heads will turn. Not that flashing a f...
by R. Frankel
April 2nd, 2019, 7:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Pinot noir you wouldn’t serve to your worst enemy
Replies: 22
Views: 2199

Re: TN: Pinot noir you wouldn’t serve to your worst enemy

I like to ask people I’m hanging out with why they like a particular wine. Many don’t care that much, they just want something easy, and usually only know a few things about wine. E.g., reds are Pinot or Cab, whites can be Chardonnay or (anything else). Those with Pinot preferences seem to like ligh...
by R. Frankel
March 26th, 2019, 12:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Good wine stores to visit in Fisherman's Wharf area, San Fransisco
Replies: 25
Views: 970

Re: Good wine stores to visit in Fisherman's Wharf area, San Fransisco

Biondivino is not too far. It's a small shop specializing in Italian wine, lots of good choices there and always very helpful. The other suggestions here are good but would require public transport as mentioned (unless you like really long walks!). Fisherman's Wharf is an odd spot. It's a tourist me...
by R. Frankel
March 24th, 2019, 10:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Say you know someone and they only think wine is red...
Replies: 52
Views: 1846

Re: Say you know someone and they only think wine is red...

I’m in agreement with these floral, well-balanced white wines that are either dry or nearly so. But - serve them with food! Cheese and crackers or charcuterie are both really easy. A big bowl of steamed clams and mussels. Nuts. Most wine lovers will immediately ‘get’ the aromas and flavor intensity ...
by R. Frankel
March 24th, 2019, 10:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Does the market value of a wine u own stop you from drinking it?
Replies: 66
Views: 2477

Re: Does the market value of a wine u own stop you from drinking it?

Alan, Are you saying you don't plan to sell the $10,000 btls but you also haven't found the moment to justify opening them and may never open them? Not taking issue, just seeking some clarification on where you stand on those major btls. Thanks Craig Hard to drink magnums of 90, 99, and 05 La Tâche...
by R. Frankel
March 24th, 2019, 9:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Buy Every Vintage of X? Why or why not?
Replies: 51
Views: 2587

Re: Buy Every Vintage of X? Why or why not?

Good discussion, thanks for all the thoughts. But, leaving aside the question of verticals, what are some more strong arguments for buying every vintage of a particular region/varietal/producer? Since I’ve been thinking about it, a couple for me are Cappellano Pie Rupestris and Bartolo Mascarello Ba...
by R. Frankel
March 24th, 2019, 9:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Does the market value of a wine u own stop you from drinking it?
Replies: 66
Views: 2477

Re: Does the market value of a wine u own stop you from drinking it?

A little sidestep: If you are drinking a $2k wine, do you do so with higher expectations based on the value of the wine? I am especially interested in the responses of the people who would never sell a bottle. Mark, indeed this is a good question. In short, yes. In long: When I drink one of those e...
by R. Frankel
March 23rd, 2019, 3:31 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Buy Every Vintage of X? Why or why not?
Replies: 51
Views: 2587

Buy Every Vintage of X? Why or why not?

With all the hypotheticals being thrown out there, thought I'd add one that's been on my mind. The question is -- do you buy every vintage of wines/producers you like? If you do, why? If you don't, why not? I am really afraid of the tyranny of the vertical. Why do I need to have a series of somethin...
by R. Frankel
March 23rd, 2019, 1:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Does the market value of a wine u own stop you from drinking it?
Replies: 66
Views: 2477

Re: Does the market value of a wine u own stop you from drinking it?

For me, no, but I don’t have any bottles that have appreciated more than a few $hundred. Partially luck and partially I only started collecting in earnest 6 or so years ago. I guess the question I’d be asking myself is - by selling super valuable bottle X will I be able to use that money for somethi...
by R. Frankel
March 23rd, 2019, 1:40 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: your consumption by grape
Replies: 8
Views: 417

Re: your consumption by grape

From the last 5 years or so, >1000 bottles, only things pulled from my cellar. In terms of what remains in my cellar, Pinot Noir, Riesling, and Nebbiolo have been increasing steadily. Chardonnay is an odd ball because I tend to buy it and drink it younger than the other grapes, i.e. I store it much ...
by R. Frankel
March 18th, 2019, 5:27 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Can Dave Phinney turn a SF island into a hipster Napa altrernative?
Replies: 22
Views: 1515

Re: Can Dave Phinney turn a SF island into a hipster Napa altrernative?

First and foremost Mare Island is a real estate development project. Adding in a few tasting rooms could work if the development is successful. The Bay is going to continue to get developed wherever possible. Pressure on real estate in this market is vast. Right on the Bay is a great selling point. ...
by R. Frankel
March 16th, 2019, 11:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Want to know why you can't ship wine to your state?
Replies: 10
Views: 695

Re: Want to know why you can't ship wine to your state?

What surprises me is that these numbers aren’t higher. For a huge industry $1mm to get favorable treatment in states with such high pop (Michigan, Ohio, Mass) is a bargain. Tennessee & Georgia are shockingly pricey, relatively. Our politicians are both corrupt and cheap dates!
by R. Frankel
March 15th, 2019, 8:54 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Stella di Compalto BdM Riserva
Replies: 8
Views: 509

Re: TN: 2011 Stella di Compalto BdM Riserva

Ashish funny that you visited them. How did you choose them?
by R. Frankel
March 15th, 2019, 12:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Stella di Compalto BdM Riserva
Replies: 8
Views: 509

TN: 2011 Stella di Compalto BdM Riserva

Never had this producer before, ordered over dinner. Note below. Very impressive, great with Elk Ragu Papperdelle. P&P though deserves a decant. One of the best young Brunellos I’ve had. Intoxicating nose of dark fruit, earth, hints of smoke and spice. Very forward for a young BdM (the vintage?) is ...
by R. Frankel
March 15th, 2019, 2:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What wine did you not buy today?
Replies: 70
Views: 3037

Re: What wine did you not buy today?

Jayson Cohen wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 9:55 pm
The only real temptation in past 24 hours: 2008 Hugues Godmé Grand Cru Brut Millésimé.
Yes that would be tempting. I really liked the 2006.
by R. Frankel
March 14th, 2019, 4:09 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What wine did you not buy today?
Replies: 70
Views: 3037

Re: What wine did you not buy today?

I was seriously tempted by some 2009 Gouges Le Saint Georges. Loved the 16s I just tasted and these are much less expensive. But — showed restraint.

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