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Burlotto in Piedmont seems like an obvious answer.

Congratulations Eric! Even if we don't always agree on the wines.

Hi all, not sure if this is the right place to post, but is anyone planning on attending this year? Has anyone ever gone alone for the dinner before and is that a bad idea. I'm not a misanthrope, just don't have too many friends willing to blow that kind of $. I've done it, and it's fine. Paulee is...

Kerin defines the vintage a modern day classic. https://kerinokeefe.com/barolo-2016-modern-day-classic/ It will be a battle getting some of the good names without getting broke She's a little late to the party, since the quality of the vintage has been pretty widely known for a couple of years and ...

1. Jacques Carillon
2. Rollin

Pretty big fall off after those two in numbers, likely one of Montille, Drouhin, Pillot or Ramonet is third.

Subu Ramachandran wrote: ↑
January 16th, 2020, 1:23 pm

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Subu Ramachandran wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2020, 12:53 pm

Ah good one. Thanks!
You got in the last bottles just before me!
Assumed you picked up cases of these at the winery during the fall visit!

Haha, didn't get in to see Carlotta.

Terrible news. I've loved the wines and all my interactions with the family. RIP.

Shay h arnoy wrote: ↑
January 16th, 2020, 7:44 am
On WB there is consensus that 2011 is a bad vintage in burgundy. But these charts (and Robert Parker) show 2011 as being not that bad (and better than 2012 and 2014).
Any tips on how to read and rely on these charts?

Don’t. Alternatively, I have some 2011 Barthod I can sell you. Great vintage.

I also disagree about the weightless feeling; I wouldn’t drink Langhe Nebbiolo without food - that’s not true for younger burgundy. They scratch pretty different itches. They might scratch different itches for you , but I for one am with Andreas: I happily drink Langhe from Roagna, Burlotto, and Vi...

I understand your point and also partly agree. However I think that Barolo is heading towards a more approachable wine compared to what it used to be. Burlotto as the prime example here. They don't have to age +20 years to come around and most Langhe Nebbiolo are gorgeous from release. While they t...

Speaking of immortal riesling: 2 x 2001 Willi Schaefer Graacher Domprobst Riesling Spatlese Auction 3 x 2010 Forstmeister-Geltz Zilliken Saarburger Rausch Riesling Spatlese Auction 2 x 2005 Forstmeister-Geltz Zilliken Saarburger Rausch Riesling Auslese Auction Ah you are the person that paid that c...

Pretty surprised by the 03 showing - I’ve yet to have an 03 red burgundy I’ve really liked. Not at all surprised by the 06 Dominique Laurent Clos de la Roche showing - that’s a great wine.

Subu Ramachandran wrote: ↑
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Sh@n A wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2020, 9:31 am
2014 G. Rinaldi Brunate (on sale at Zachys, ordered through Michael Mahle who is a WB now at Zachys)
Ah good one. Thanks!

You got in the last bottles just before me!

In Napa? My first question is usually how many of your bottles does Alfert's wife buy every year? And how many for the poolboy?

Yao C wrote: ↑
January 8th, 2020, 5:52 pm
Favorite introductions for 2019

Donnhoff GG Dellchen - Alan Rath
Ecard Narbantons - Lee Short
Foillard Morgon 3.14 - Andy Koeberl
Raymond Trollat - Charlie Fu

Thanks guys

Trollat? That’s an expensive introduction!!

Having drank a few of 11’s and 10’s i would definitely not call them dark or dark fruited. Well, the style did change. And '01 is what is in question. Tanzer seems to agree: The Clos des Cortons has always been quite savory and soil-driven, not to mention uncompromisingly dry. While I have long fou...

Same - excellent experience, would definitely buy from again!

Jay Miller wrote: ↑
January 6th, 2020, 3:07 pm
I haven’t had the Ruinart. Personally I prefer the 06 Comtes to the 08 Dom but I think all my wine friends disagree with me.

Taking bottle variation into account on the Comtes (I've had at least one odd bottle at a tasting), I'm with you.

This. Always. I’ve recently been grabbing 1998 and 2000. Will start seeking some more 2005s. Always looking for interesting things from the 1980s and 1990s. I go back further - 80s and 70s. Mature super seconds can be had for reasonable prices compared to what other regions are going for these days...

I don’t really cook, so if I kept every bottle of wine I didn’t enjoy around the apartment, either as vinegar or cooking wine, I’d run out if space in a few months.

Bordeaux. There's tons of it around, it keeps quite well and other than first growths it's often priced below current releases. This. Always. I’ve recently been grabbing 1998 and 2000. Will start seeking some more 2005s. Always looking for interesting things from the 1980s and 1990s. I go back furt...

Bordeaux. There's tons of it around, it keeps quite well and other than first growths it's often priced below current releases.

Honestly, you can't go wrong. I haven't found the 08 Dom nearly as good as everyone else claims it is, but I'm clearly very much in the minority. I actually really liked the 07 Ruinart when I had it recently.

Had the 2011 Brezza Barolo Cannubi the other night with steak. Listed at 15.5%, tasted all of that. I didn’t love the wine but we enjoyed it well enough. The alcohol definitely stressed the palate. Wouldn’t hold this one, don’t think time will help. I found that in a number of '11 Barolos. Even wel...

Jouan

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Mike S. wrote: ↑
January 3rd, 2020, 10:51 am
Greg, can you please translate for me. Thanks
I think he's talking about Beaujolais.
Not Greg, but yes this borders on gamay flavors, a border on which we really DO need a wall

Philip the Bold was right.

Mike S. wrote: ↑
January 3rd, 2020, 10:51 am
Greg, can you please translate for me. Thanks

Neal has it right, it borders on Gamay. (I certainly didn't mean Boris Johnson.) I don't like Gamay, so I've never loved these wines. But that's a purely personal preference and not a judgment on the wines - if you like Gamay, this is your thing.

1. Still red: 1990 Pousse d'Or Cailleret 60 Ouvrees. Not sure it's "objectively" the best I've had, but most memorable to me.
2. Still non-red: 1989 Leflaive Batard, several times. The energy on late 80s Leflaive is surreal.
3. Champagne: 1988 Salon by a whisker over the 1988 Krug.

Certainly not everyone E.g. Pegau made a very vibrant and delicious wine that is almost ready now. Had it with roast duck Christmas eve. I am sure Dan and others will agree There can always be exceptions to rules, but I think you understand my point. I wouldn't judge Chave or Sorrel by their 03s ei...

These are made in a slightly bojo/glou glou style. If you like that, they're great. If, like me, you don't.......eh.

Robert Pavlovich wrote: ↑
December 31st, 2019, 1:48 pm
Good to hear this is drinking well. Probably taking this one to Paulee with me in March. Fingers crossed it’s a good bottle.

Coming to NYC then?

Personally, the 1995 I own the most of is Figeac, which I am happy about, but I would really like to have some Calon Ségur, GPL and Pichon Lalande in my cellar. The 1995 Pichon Lalande is in a sense the last great Merlot-driven Pichon Lalande, and represents the end of an era. Yes, that is a real s...

My mag of 1995 Calon Segur might eventually be drinkable, eh?

I'm of sure what you are asking. The 03 VD I bought was quite noticeably overripe and even pruney. I took that as the vintage at the time.And in a sense it was, since they didn't make another quite like that one. But 04, 05 and 06 certainly seemed to me riper, more polished and with softer tannins....

Comtes, as many have said. The 16s from the Barolo producers I buy, as I think it’s a very good vintage.
Otherwise, I can’t think of anything that’s a “must buy” given the combination of tariffs and my view of the recent vintages in France.

That’s good to know, is it really already drinking? I guess 11 is quite a precocious vintage. Mine is the 01 Pie Franco but that may have been just over a year ago. Already good, showing much promise. All wines so far listed such youngsters. It is drinking beautifully now. Re: What is your Barolo o...

Cambie started consulting in around 01. I not I ed the change in 03. If you like them now, pay no attention to us vulgarians. You have lots of company here. Is any change in 03 really notable? I'm of sure what you are asking. The 03 VD I bought was quite noticeably overripe and even pruney. I took ...

Jonathan Loesberg wrote: ↑
December 26th, 2019, 8:37 am
Cambie started consulting in around 01. I not I ed the change in 03. If you like them now, pay no attention to us vulgarians. You have lots of company here.

Is any change in 03 really notable?

Completely agree. Really??? I haven't had the wines since 2013 vintage. That would be super sad. Two words: Phillipe Cambie. Donjon is now DTM. When did Cambie start consulting for them? I had the 16s recently and thought they seemed like fairly traditional CDP. Of course, I don't drink much CDP.

Just opened a Schafer Frohlich kabinett last night - great stuff.

I’d add St. Prefert (unless that’s what Gerhard meant by Ferrand?). Also, I agree Vieux Donjon seems pretty traditional to me, at least based on the 16s that I recently tried.

A lovely post Dan.

A steal at those prices! Purchased mine at the low end of that range. Mine are clearly better as I paid more than that recently, from UK, pre-tariff. We should have a taste-off! Thanks for the note, Ramon! [cheers.gif] Sounds like you’re angling for an excuse to leave the wife with the pool boy and...

Thanks for the notes, this was helpful. I’ve had a number of these recently, so it helps to calibrate scores.

Jonathan Sirot wrote: ↑
December 23rd, 2019, 5:16 am
2013 Becklyn Reserve Cabernet $180 x 2
2015 Becklyn Reserve Cabernet $180 X 2

If you purchase all 4 btls will throw in free ground shipping .

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Jonathan, you’re with pm. Not re the Becklyn.

Inexpensive CDPs tend to be crowd pleasers, I find.

So apparently I should just stop posting on Wine Berserkers. A consumer considering buying wine asks if a certain wine has Brett. I post that I have found that it does - in an attempt to be helpful. That is disagreed with. Then I mention that I have also tested for it and found it. Then I am told t...

Fourrier's 2008s weren't very good on release and I'd have to imagine they're not gonna be any better now. But there were other '08s that seemed real nice on release that advanced in an unfriendly way on a much faster track than I would have expected. It does have me worried. 1996 has always seemed...

Interesting. I’ve had a very different experience with 08, but with little overlap on producers. I’ve loved what Hudelot Noellat did in 08, Chevillon did very well (as Suzanne noted), I’ve had some very good Trapet and Fourrier recently as well as a pretty good Chezeaux. The 08 Arnoux Suchot certain...

I agree that once the oak is neutralized, Gaillard makes some really enjoyable wine. They were selling their base Cote Rotie for €40 ex-cellar when I visited in 2017, which begs the question, “What in the ghost of Marius Gentaz are the cool kids spending €1200/bottle on these days in the Northern R...

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