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I can’t find anything on wine.com of interest. Please help me spend some money! I have free shipping snd coupons lol. And I’m buzzed and feeling spendy. There's a bunch of Heitz Martha's Vineyard at $229 with $50/$200 and 20% RMN they come in at $143 Chateau Cos d'Estournel 2014 at $149.99, $20 off...

Flatiron is doing 15% off any 6 or more bottles. BFCM15 I hoped to load up on some Champagne but they seem to be sold out of everything I was thinking about. Yeah, I looked through it and am considering a couple of things, but had the same issue for the most part. Have found the same issue at most ...

I had the 2008 Comtes on Sunday, and I think it’s very promising but not quite resolved on the palate, where the acidity and dosage aren’t quite integrated yet. The rest of the wine is powerful and seamless; I’m very glad I have a 6 pack. Given that I’m pretty underwhelmed by the 2008 Dom, I don’t ...

I had the 2008 Comtes on Sunday, and I think it’s very promising but not quite resolved on the palate, where the acidity and dosage aren’t quite integrated yet. The rest of the wine is powerful and seamless; I’m very glad I have a 6 pack. Given that I’m pretty underwhelmed by the 2008 Dom, I don’t i...

Yeah, I was waiting for some deliveries from a retailer who told me about this. Am hoping my wine (it was champagne,) survived the damage, as it's relatively tough to find, but c'est la vie.

Honestly, too many good wines this year to possibly whittle it down to one bottle. As bad as a year this has been, the quality of the wines has been great. Post Covid wines only: 2004 Carillon Bienvenue Batard Montrachet 1990 Pousse d'Or Cailleret 2012 Rousseau Clos de la Roche 2002 Mugnier Fuees 20...

I have been buying normally but have the luxury of leaving them in Europe and hoping that the tariffs will end soon. But I am told that American buyers are waiting and certainly private purchases are way down, corporate also lower. So curious if you have been holding off as well? And if so, will yo...

scamhi wrote: ↑
November 24th, 2020, 5:06 am
2017 Allemand Chaillot and Reynard 6 of each

I am interested. Thanks. Okay, I have an idle moment at LHR, awaiting my flight back to the USA, so here goes... Gilbert has always been a diligent farmer, and over the years has supplied a bit of fruit to the likes of Dujac Fils et Père etc, though he now vinifies and bottles almost all of his own...

Well done Robert - happy birthday! I had a bottle of the 82 Magdelaine for my 40th last year, though it was paired with the 82 Margaux rather than the Haut Brion :) Thanks, guys! It was a coin flip whether I brought the 82 La Mish or the Magdelaine. Had I known that Charlie and Marc were bringing H...

Well done Robert - happy birthday! I had a bottle of the 82 Magdelaine for my 40th last year, though it was paired with the 82 Margaux rather than the Haut Brion

This has been the best Michigan season since the RichRod days.

Hi Jay, hope all is well.

Their 14s need a lot of time, and I think they’re going through a bit of an odd phase, as these wines can sometimes do. I’m still very high on Montille’s 14s and have buried a bunch of the Perrieres in storage (the one I opened last month was not ready). Am drinking my 10s now, which are in a nice s...

I’ve had a fair amount of Felettig recently, and I think the style has evolved a bit; I’d say the 17s are very similar in a good way to Mugneret-Gibourg. I think the 14s still have a fair amount of reduction and are more dense and slightly blockier wines. The wines have only been getting better - I...

I’ve had a fair amount of Felettig recently, and I think the style has evolved a bit; I’d say the 17s are very similar in a good way to Mugneret-Gibourg. I think the 14s still have a fair amount of reduction and are more dense and slightly blockier wines. The wines have only been getting better - I ...

Alex Valdes wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2020, 5:34 pm
A few of each:

2013 &2014 Barthod CM

2016 & 2017 Carillon PM 1er Cru Les Perrieres

2016 Boisson-Vadot Meur Les Grands Charrons

If it’s Jacques Carillon (and I imagine it is

), the 17 is a phenomenal wine.

My understanding is that they want to retain their traditional winemaking. Having had some of the younger wines (including at Paulee), I didn't notice a change. I don't think it could really be called "traditional" in the sense of representing a continuation of de Vogüé's historic winemaking style:...

I tasted this and it was one of the wines that contributed to my decision to pass on most of my 2018 allocations. But can you pick them up again for 2019? Bertheau isn't hard to come by. What's driving my decision is, in part, tariff pricing in the US; 2018 is very much not my type of vintage*, and...

I am quite surprised - I have always found the Dancer wines to have more body, ie be richer than Roulot. I'd say since 2014, I've found the opposite; I think Dancer has bene making some very precise wines that are leaner than Roulot. I've not loved Dancer's 18s, but then 18 is not my favorite vinta...

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JLee wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2020, 9:56 pm
Love barthod.
I'm assuming this was a typo!

Hah! I’m not Mr. Lee, but I would add that I own a reasonable amount of Berthau, so it’s not a general stylistic disagreement.
If anything, I’d think Barthod would likely do better in 18 than some other producers

I tasted this and it was one of the wines that contributed to my decision to pass on most of my 2018 allocations.

Whatever Todd wants seems like the right answer, honestly.

I plan on stocking up on 2017 northern Rhones. Personally, I think 2016 northern Rhone is considerably better for the long haul, and I went very deep; best northern rhone vintage since 2010, easily. Strong statement. We can test it in good time! (And there are a lot of threads on this so i won’t dr...

If you have an ah so you can make a fake Durand. Not as good as the real thing but almost. First take a waiters friend and insert the screw at an angle. Then insert the ah so over the screw and use that to extract the cork. Done it many times when no Durand is available. This is my approach as well...

A Dotson wrote: ↑
November 12th, 2020, 9:54 am
Some people are Pobegas, some are Audouzes.

I think that's a false dichotomy - I open plenty of young Burgundy and ancient Bordeaux, and I think that's not at all unusual. It's all context dependent.

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑
November 11th, 2020, 5:27 pm
I’m gonna pop one of the 17 GC vv I got recently soon

I had this a couple of months back, it’s quite pretty, and very clean.

A bunch more 2015 Collin Roises.

It makes me angry, too, but less about the wine than the fact that Ronald Coase has a Nobel Prize while I have managed to disprove his theorem while drinking , and don't have a Nobel Prize. I make no claims on anyone's Nobel, but Chambolle is my favorite village and it's endlessly frustrating that ...

Haven't they got a younger generation in charge yet, like so many other Burgundy domaines? My understanding is that they want to retain their traditional winemaking. Having had some of the younger wines (including at Paulee), I didn't notice a change. Is this true throughout their range, or just th...

It makes me angry, too, but less about the wine than the fact that Ronald Coase has a Nobel Prize while I have managed to disprove his theorem while drinking , and don't have a Nobel Prize. I make no claims on anyone's Nobel, but Chambolle is my favorite village and it's endlessly frustrating that ...

I think de Vogue’s wines would command higher prices if they were better. +1. Haven’t liked much of Vogue since 1990. No recent samples—got too expensive. Faiveley makes more Musigny now, got a second parcel. All grand cru Burgundy costs too much! To some extent, sure - I can't live in the wooden c...

If they sold all their holdings to Freddy Mugnier, the price would go up supply notwithstanding. I have (usually in an inebriated state), repeatedly expressed this view with considerably more vehemence. It makes me angry, too, but less about the wine than the fact that Ronald Coase has a Nobel Priz...

Keith Levenberg wrote: ↑
November 11th, 2020, 3:09 pm
If they sold all their holdings to Freddy Mugnier, the price would go up supply notwithstanding.

I have (usually in an inebriated state), repeatedly expressed this view with considerably more vehemence.

I think de Vogue’s wines would command higher prices if they were better.

Well, compared to how small country Finland is, we have a thriving community of Nebbiolo lovers here. Every year we have multiple verticals and other tastings that focus only on aged Nebbiolo, i.e. wines from 1980-1950, occasionally even older bottles. Not just Barolo, but also Barbaresco, Alto Pie...

To be clear, I meant drinking them with as much age as Americans do. I have a number of friends who love Barolo from the 50s and 60s, and it's an common theme; I've never seen enthusiasm like that anywhere else for Barolo that old, including from the winemakers themselves. I am happy to be shown to...

J Dove wrote: ↑
November 10th, 2020, 1:26 pm
It was just about expensive wines, generally — as, I thought you just pulled out CLB as a general concept as opposed to a specific wine. But, I may have misinterpreted.

No, my comment was about CLB's style particularly.

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Ken Strauss wrote: ↑
November 10th, 2020, 10:56 am
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2016 Cavallotto Barolo Riserva Bricco Boschis Vigna San Giuseppe
The 2016 San Giuseppe or the 2013? The 2015 riservas haven't been released yet.

Oops not the reserva but 2016.
Thanks for the correction. Now I need to fix CellarTracker.

Hah, people correct my CT notes all the time

You could age your Comte Liger Belair, but who does, and why would they? If you give me 5 $300+ bottles of recently released wine, a $75 wine budget for a 6th bottle, and 6 paper bags — I’ll bet >80% of the people on this board won’t reliably find the $75 wine. I and others from the board with me h...

I do think it's a somewhat unique American experience to prefer Barolo quite so old This was the first time I ever head somebody claiming this to be a "unique American experience". From what I've seen, it's a pretty global thing - and was normal for so many decades in Italy before they started maki...

Many winemakers in various regions prefer their wines younger than many of their customers do. I would go as far as to say most winemakers want you to drink their wines young so: 1) You are able to spread the word. 2) You deplete your inventory and need to repurchase. I visited Piedmont twice some ...

Ken Strauss wrote: ↑
November 10th, 2020, 10:56 am
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2016 Cavallotto Barolo Riserva Bricco Boschis Vigna San Giuseppe

The 2016 San Giuseppe or the 2013? The 2015 riservas haven't been released yet.

Robert Dentice wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2020, 1:13 pm
All I can add is that Bachelets shut down hard and I have had similar experiences. Still waiting for the 05s to open.

In fairness, that’s true of most of 05s from almost all producers. I’ve had some good Bachelets, but none that have compelled me to buy any myself, especially for the price.

John Morris wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2020, 3:22 pm
That's interesting because Morrell is often quite competitive on Barolo and Barbaresco.

I’ve also found this, but again, I’m not sure I’m a buyer at $100 generally.

I’m pretty sure I got the same email, and my brows went up too. But criminal? I dunno. All wine purchasing is a value proposition. I like Produttori, but it’s always been a bit of a value play. If it stops being a value play, I’ll buy other stuff. Lots of great Nebbiolo at those prices, including so...

Curious to hear your thoughts! x2 [cheers.gif] It wasn't the 2018, but a friend brought a bottle of the 2014 to dinner on Friday that was meant to be blind but ultimately wasn't. The Lamy was the only non-grand cru of the night (other than some Raveneau 1ers), and it was one of the most concentrate...

I’ve had the same issue with Dauvissat’s 2011s. A good percentage has been premixed but even the correct bottles seem to be lacking something. Your “watery” comment is spot on in my experience. I don’t think age is going to help but would be curious what others with more experience think? Similar e...

Had a 17 Clerget Mitans last week and I continue to not be a huge fan, though I do like his Caillerets. I find his and Rossignol's wines have a very particular paint thinner/Robitussin note that I really don't like, so am not surprised at the divergence of views there. I think the Hudelot-Noellat 1...

Had a 17 Clerget Mitans last week and I continue to not be a huge fan, though I do like his Caillerets. I find his and Rossignol's wines have a very particular paint thinner/Robitussin note that I really don't like, so am not surprised at the divergence of views there. I think the Hudelot-Noellat 16...

A bottle of Lamy's 2018 St. Aubin Haute Densite. Have wanted to try this bottling for a long time, and am really excited. Curious to hear your thoughts! A bottle of Lamy's 2018 St. Aubin Haute Densite. Have wanted to try this bottling for a long time, and am really excited. Curious to hear your tho...

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