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I didn't think the Pontet Canet was an advanced bottle or that the wine is getting over the hill -- maybe it's just one of those things about how one tasting note sounds. More likely it needed more air and/or age. I thought it was good, but it was a step below the better wines of the evening. That ...

Frank Murray III wrote: ↑
December 14th, 2018, 5:49 pm
Alan, you're drinking a 2016 Napa Cab, that is raised in a lot of new oak. What were you expecting?

I had a 1998 Cantemerle a few days ago and thought it was quite good. Give the 2000 a bit of a decant, but should be in a good place.

High standards Monsieur! I do agree with you. Don't get me wrong, I'd be very happy to be poured a lot of that stuff, but I didn't run across anything I found amazing (other than the vintage Krug). Same here. Vintage Krug was the only one that was like wow! Jayson, I agree, this years line up was l...

Patrick Martin was in town. Got together at Sutton Inn, and a fun group of 6 old-school Bordeaux geeks geeked out with: 1983 Domaine de Chevalier Blanc 2008 Bonneau du Martray Corton-Charlemagne 1998 La Tour Haut Brion 1979 Ch. Haut Bailly 1979 La Tour Haut Brion 1979 Domaine de Chevalier 1978 Doma...

Patrick Martin was in town. Got together at Sutton Inn, and a fun group of 6 old-school Bordeaux geeks geeked out with: 1983 Domaine de Chevalier Blanc 2008 Bonneau du Martray Corton-Charlemagne 1998 La Tour Haut Brion 1979 Ch. Haut Bailly 1979 La Tour Haut Brion 1979 Domaine de Chevalier 1978 Doma...

I like my wine on the mature side, but that's dumb. I've been drinking 2004s for years.

2013 Cappellano Rupestris and 1998 Cantemerle last night. The 2013 Cappellano is on one hand too young, but also I wanted to drink it and it's delicious now. The tannins are still too brooding, but a wonderful red fruit nose with some spice. The 1998 Cantemerle is in a good place, and I think will b...

I assume you are referring to their NV's because recent vintages of Dom Ruinart have pretty low dosage. Primarily (the NV has a lot!). I think Brad Baker on another thread noted the dosage on recent Dom Ruinart vintages, which haven't been especially low. Just not as high. 2006 was 4.5g/l That's lo...

My pour was also good, on par with past experience, and still not quite up to past vintages to my taste. This was my 5th or 6th time with it in the past year. But it was much better than Krug 166. No thank you! That's a bit harsh! It's not worth the price, but I didn't think the Krug 166 was bad! O...

And as always, I wish Ruinart would use less dosage! I assume you are referring to their NV's because recent vintages of Dom Ruinart have pretty low dosage. Primarily (the NV has a lot!). I think Brad Baker on another thread noted the dosage on recent Dom Ruinart vintages, which haven't been especi...

Mine have all come from envoyer, and to date been excellent That's good to know - that's where mine are from. I had two glasses at the Crush champagne tasting last week, and they were of pretty variable quality - the second glass seemed to have a lot more dosage. The first glass was quite good. My ...

Thanks. I've not had Mt. Eden, and my comment wasn't a suggestion that the Pontet Canet should be the better wine. Rather that the notes were a bit of a surprise to me and suggested a more advanced wine than what I'm familiar with. Makes sense it wasn't the best showing (although in fairness, the 0...

Thanks for the notes. I've had a decent amount of the 04 Pontet Canet - do you think this may have been a slightly advanced bottle? Or is that just in comparison to the Mt. Eden? I've yet to have an 04 PC that has had very strong mushroom notes (and it's not a vintage I plan to cellar for decades, ...

Btw: Are you never frustrated when you see what direction some things are heading into? Every good producer should be successful and make money. But come on – a Kiste of Keller, 12 bottles of wine for 4.500 Euros/Dollars? I learned this is reasonable due to posts a few hours ago. And that an auctio...

No order: 1. Gruaud Larose 2. Ducru 3. Leoville Barton 4. Pichon Baron 5. Pichon Lalande 6. Pontet Canet 7. Calon Segur 8. Haut Brion After that, a bunch of things I like but don't necessary love. That also generally matches what's in my cellar, other than the Haut Brion, which ranking is based on t...

Neal.Mollen wrote: ↑
December 12th, 2018, 11:16 am
Mine have all come from envoyer, and to date been excellent

That's good to know - that's where mine are from. I had two glasses at the Crush champagne tasting last week, and they were of pretty variable quality - the second glass seemed to have a lot more dosage. The first glass was quite good.

Thanks for the notes. I've had a decent amount of the 04 Pontet Canet - do you think this may have been a slightly advanced bottle? Or is that just in comparison to the Mt. Eden? I've yet to have an 04 PC that has had very strong mushroom notes (and it's not a vintage I plan to cellar for decades, t...

Opened a 2008 Trimbach Cuvee Emile and a 2014 Schaefer-Froelich 2014 Felseneck GG. The Emile was very food friendly and had a massive nose of petrol, though I've always found it a bit lacking in the midpalate. The Felseneck was opened too young, but I really liked it - had some lovely fruit on the p...

Opened a 2015 Rollin Sous Fretile and a 1988 Cantemerle for dinner Saturday night. The Rollin is nice though needs some time. The Cantemerle is a great example of old school solid Bordeaux, though I'm guessing it's at the edge of its prime drinking plateau.

Depends on the wine and the price. I backfill a decent amount, in which case I always try to go for at least two bottles. For newer releases, ideally I'd go with half a case, but then I also buy Burgundy, so that's not really possible.

@GregK - Funny sidenote, I see Clape as the power, not elegant at all, and Allemand the more elegant of the Cornas wines. That's interesting! To me Clape tends to be leaner and more structured while Allemand brings the power. Maybe I've just been drinking the solar vintages [snort.gif] You are both...

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 2:36 pm
@GregK - Funny sidenote, I see Clape as the power, not elegant at all, and Allemand the more elegant of the Cornas wines.

That's interesting! To me Clape tends to be leaner and more structured while Allemand brings the power. Maybe I've just been drinking the solar vintages

Balthazar's Cornas Chaillot is actually the N. Rhone that I have the most of in my cellar. That said, it is made almost identical as the Geynale. The only difference I see is Balthazar uses demi-muids instead of used casks and just does cap punching instead of cap punching and pour overs? I'm just ...

What in the making of the Geynale would make it any more modern than any other producer? It's mostly whole bunch, wild yeast, and used oak casks (no new wood). The only way I can see making it more rustic is brettanomyces, or bacteria from not doing cap punching and pump overs? Is it just that they...

I’d prefer Quality Italian. I’ve done byob there before and it was fine. Preference is partially based on the more central location.

I will happily open the bidding at $1K then.

Well I have been buying just Bordeaux but I’m really interested in domestic wines as well. I did purchase a bionic Frog 2016, that I plan to age. I like reserving things so I don’t have to try and buy it when it finally comes out. Plus I’m typically only interested in aging 1-2 wines per year. The ...

Somehwere between too much and no idea.

Jayson Cohen wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 7:20 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 7:05 pm
I love dusty pencil in my wine!!
T.M.I.

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 7:05 pm
I love dusty pencil in my wine!!

I'm quite happy to backfill 80s Bordeaux and leave recent vintages of Pavie to Alan.

Alan asked the question in a loaded manner intended to produce a specific response, which Jeff has duly provided. And, to be clear, that's not in any way an aspersion on Jeff.

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December 2nd, 2018, 4:35 pm

Greg K wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 2:48 pm
While walking the dog picked up 4 bottles of Marguet Shaman '13 for $22.50 a pop, because they were 50% off for some reason. Sure!
smart dog! Did you get anything?

A treat

DanielPaik wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:01 pm

Greg K wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 2:48 pm
While walking the dog picked up 4 bottles of Marguet Shaman '13 for $22.50 a pop, because they were 50% off for some reason. Sure!
Well now you have to share the source!

It was a random store on Broadway in Tribeca. Bought all they had left!

While walking the dog picked up 4 bottles of Marguet Shaman '13 for $22.50 a pop, because they were 50% off for some reason. Sure!

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2018, 1:08 pm
And Todd toddlering can lead to Todd being seriously toddlered:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... =Toddlered

Unsurprisingly, I'm being told I can't view this at work because it is "tasteless"

In NY it’s hard to argue with Racines for many reasons (the wine directors and friendly knowledgeable service, David Lillie/Chambers connection, regular pour sessions and events, BYO Monday, random acts of vinous generosity, not to mention the list), although pricing has been creeping up maybe. The...

Give it the Fourrier shake!

Indeed - thanks to Shan to organizing and it was great to see/meet everyone.

I would like to come, but I'm not sure I could blend something in time.

Glad the 04 Chaillot showed well. We had it at an offline a week or so ago, and I thought it wasn't in a very pleasant place and could really have used more time (or a considerably longer decant).

I generally find Guigal uses too much oak for me, but pre-1990 this seems less of an issue, so I pick those up when I see them. In particular, I think older Guigal Hermitage (to move the thread a bit) holds up quite well.

Jürgen Steinke wrote: ↑
November 27th, 2018, 6:56 am
Alex,

you have to live with my opinion. I hate speculation.

I don't think this is speculation if people are drinking the wine - and it seems they are.

Clearly I should have taken the California bar rather than the New York bar!

Chris Johnson wrote: ↑
November 23rd, 2018, 4:38 pm
Wayfair has 6 StandArt Gabriel’s for 109 with free shipping.

Thanks for this one.

I like some Cordier funk! Some of the older Gruaud Larose are phenomenal.

Thanks all for a great evening and to Shan for organizing. Will do better next time on the wine....

Ruinart is my upscale "everyone likes this" champagne, even as I wish they'd use less dosage. I love its precision, I dislike the sweetness. Said this was the first year with a new vintner and the dosage was cut in half. This was the first wine made completely by the current Chef de Caves Frédéric ...

The one I remember most is a bottle of Chaputier Hermitage. Ugh.

Not only do I not like Guigal or Chapoutier, I have none in my "cellar," which is about 30% Northern Rhone. I have like three bottles of Jaboulet. Clearly they have fans, though. I would suspect that someone who adores this style of Northern Rhone, will not like Levet. That is like saying someone w...

Ruinart is my upscale "everyone likes this" champagne, even as I wish they'd use less dosage. I love its precision, I dislike the sweetness.

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