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Sorry Greg, I really didn’t mean to suggest that, but reading my post again, I see where you can infer that. My apologies. I see that Buecker is at 89-90. His palate is excellent, and he’s calling this a B+ or barely an A. Not a great divide between us. And I cannot discount some bottle variation, ...

I have heard that as well, Greg, and from my note, I tried to convey this does not taste like a Rolland wine. I think that I call balls and strikes, but sure, anyone reading this can take it with a grain of salt given my general thoughts on these consultants (and for the record, my disdain of baseb...

Thanks for the note. I think Rolland’s influence on Pontet Canet is fairly limited given all the other things they do (biodynamics, amphorae, etc). Plus, I quite like this wine, so it’s good to see a different perspective. I can understand why you might find it a bit boring. Though 86 seems a bit ha...

Prices on most things are higher than in the US, in part because of the 17% VAT. 20%. Though that only further proves your point. Except there is no VAT if the wine is sold in Bond and brought over by an importer. True, but you don’t need to go to the UK to buy wine that way; you can get it shipped...

A couple bottles of 2009 Willi Schaefer Himmelreich Grosses Gewachs. Always looking for older GGs.

I think theres something to what you're saying though. I could see fans of a place like Burgundy who think they need to rate more strictly because it makes them look more concerning, or something along those lines. maybe a bunch of hip young somms tasted a bunch of natural wines from Jura and could...

As with any luxury good incremental increases in quality/rarity/demand yield much larger increases in price. 08 cristal is IMO better than the wonderful 06 Comtes. If either the price differential was lower or i had a higher salary I’d buy more of the former than the latter. As it is I’m quite happ...

I wouldn't bet more than I could afford to lose that this is correct. I seem to remember hims saying something of the sort during the course of a long tasting at the end of the day. My [mis]interpretation of what he might have said might also have been affected by the fact that I have spoken to mor...

As with any luxury good incremental increases in quality/rarity/demand yield much larger increases in price. 08 cristal is IMO better than the wonderful 06 Comtes. If either the price differential was lower or i had a higher salary I’d buy more of the former than the latter. As it is I’m quite happ...

I wouldn't bet more than I could afford to lose that this is correct. I seem to remember hims saying something of the sort during the course of a long tasting at the end of the day. My [mis]interpretation of what he might have said might also have been affected by the fact that I have spoken to mor...

Scores are mostly meaningless, but once you identify people on CellarTracker whose palates you either align with to an extent or mostly disagree with, those reviews can be really helpful. A number of people on this forum fall into both camps for me. I wouldn’t buy half a case solely on that basis, b...

Jonathan Loesberg wrote: ↑
August 17th, 2019, 1:10 am
I tasted his 17 sans souffre with him last May. It was great, but he gave me the impression he had no intention to export it. Sans souffre does make a wine more fresh--until it doesn't.

So he’s no longer exporting his SS? I don’t think it’s a big loss, but that’s a bit of a surprise.

I saw that on CT. I guess I read your note as closed? I haven’t gotten any brett on the 15 chaillot fortunately and was hoping your mention was for the wrong wine. the 15 sans soufre turned into a mess after some air. I think of his SS (of which I have a few bottles) as a wine jot built to age, so ...

I’ve been wondering what they bottling was. Thanks for the info.
I don’t really like the Casimir, but I love Balthazar’s Chaillot, which I think will be amazing with time.

Yao C wrote: ↑
August 16th, 2019, 4:17 pm
My goals were far more modest & attainable

2014 Fevre Preuses and Cote Bouguerots

My other goal was the Carillon, and there I succeeded. (Once I confirmed it was Jacques.)

D@ve D y r 0 f f wrote: ↑
August 16th, 2019, 2:20 pm
So who got the 2014 Chartron Clos du Cailleret that I did not get?

LOL, I was thinking the same thing. Late two days in a row.

Wow who got it? I just checked timestamps. I relied within 16 seconds. Email received at 3pm I don’t want to brag...... Because I also did not get it. I missed it too but FWIW Carina told me that it was a typo and they had the 2015 not 2005 If that makes anyone feel better for having missed it :) S...

My wife and I will be in New York for a semi-impromptu one night trip in two weeks. Too late to get reservations at the big name places but we're really not looking for a pricey multi-course extravaganza. We're really just looking for a good dinner and a nice night out. Any suggestions, preferably ...

Took our children a few years ago to Antico Arco in Trestevere, Rome which was vg. Don't think its starred but excellent nonetheless. My report then: This is a restaurant that is well reviewed on a number of sites, and is in the fashionable Trestevere district of Rome. It was a delightful cab ride ...

c fu wrote: ↑
August 15th, 2019, 3:36 pm
Wow who got it? I just checked timestamps. I relied within 16 seconds. Email received at 3pm

I don’t want to brag......

Because I also did not get it.

c fu wrote: ↑
August 15th, 2019, 3:03 pm
I responded within 10 seconds to the 05 gonon. Lol

Did you ask for all of it? Lol. I responded fast, but probably not quite that fast.

I thought the 06 was quite nice about 6 months ago, though I wouldn't have called it "ready" either.

so much of Fourrier goes into the US (he sells so little domestically) that even you couldn't raise the price by yourself. neener I did notice that Fourrier pricing in the US was as good as that in Europe. It's often easier to find his stuff in the US than in France. I vaguely recall the story of w...

this is fu's bae, so you're out of luck. I’ve been buying Fourrier for over a decade, so I’m not counting on any decrease in pricing. [snort.gif] lol. Edson just joking. I buy very little Fourrier. Buy one single CSJ/Griotte each vintage. Bought a lot back in 06-2010 from across the pond then slowl...

Ed Gonzales wrote: ↑
August 15th, 2019, 9:01 am
this is fu's bae, so you're out of luck.

I’ve been buying Fourrier for over a decade, so I’m not counting on any decrease in pricing.

Jayson Cohen wrote: ↑
August 15th, 2019, 8:47 am
A couple I couldn’t resist:

3 2013 Marc Morey Chassagne En Virondots
4 2014 Huet Petillant

Haha, I'm guessing we bit on the same offer.

Does Fourrier have a "house style"? Is it known to be ... x y z? I've only had one, a 2007 Clos St Jacque, and it was on the sweet/sappy side.. altho it was delicious nonetheless.. i wonder if that was b/c of the 2007 vintage as i've had a few other 2007s that are similarly on the sweet/sappy side....

Prices have gone up $2000-3000 every year he was in college and, yes, it does include room and board. This is standard pricing for elite schools these days!!! Thank goodness both my daughters got into UVA. Elite school and tuition plus R & B was less than $25K. Even public school tuition ain't what...

Does Fourrier have a "house style"? Is it known to be ... x y z? I've only had one, a 2007 Clos St Jacque, and it was on the sweet/sappy side.. altho it was delicious nonetheless.. i wonder if that was b/c of the 2007 vintage as i've had a few other 2007s that are similarly on the sweet/sappy side....

I would be delighted if Zinfandel became the hot new thing that Instagram influencers were bringing to wine parties*. Maybe it'll remove attention from some of the wines I like that are getting too expensive. Why only $200? Cambie and Saxum and Zinfandel? $400 at least!

That must have been great Alan. We had a 97 Chave at a dinner recently and it was one of our wines of the night as well - the nose was just unbelievable, even if the power isn't quite there as it might be in the best vintages.

Yes, there is a Mail Boxes just outside Alba. Should be about 5-8 min on the main road going toward La Morra/Castiglione Falletto/Gallo. They have styro shippers and boxes. I usually carry on the plane but they probably can assist with shipping. Greg, I read from another person on WB there is Mail ...

Thanks to everyone for all for the info, super useful. In addition to the restaurant/hotel information, are there any services that ship wine back to the US similar to services like Cote d'Or importers in France?

Am I correct in my estimation that Amélie Berthaut has made the wines since taking over her mother's portion of vineyards? 2/3 for her, 1/3 for the Chezeaux family? That would make a world of difference between the '05-'08 period and her hand. Her wines are plain gorgeous to my taste. "and her hand...

Negative interest rates are very, very difficult to think about. In theory, if, on January 1st, the Fed loaned you $100, at an interest rate of -5%, then circa December 31st of that year, you would only owe the Fed $95. And circa December 31st of the following year, you'd only owe the Fed (0.95) * ...

Nathan Smyth wrote: ↑
August 12th, 2019, 1:41 pm
[other than that the entirety of statutory & Common Law would have to be rewritten to accommodate negative interest rates, and all existing contracts would have to be voided]

Actually laughed out loud at this one.

I'll have a bottle open at my place tomorrow early evening if anyone wants to stop by. panzer, i didn't call because i'm not sure what we would discuss - so the innuendo of me not calling you isn't a thing. that said, since you mentioned it, can you please elucidate on the how and why a producer wo...

c fu wrote: ↑
August 11th, 2019, 12:23 pm

Greg K wrote: ↑
August 11th, 2019, 10:19 am

c fu wrote: ↑
August 11th, 2019, 8:03 am

I know. But it was more similar to yacov’s note than just a normal ungiving wine
Got it.

I don’t have much experience with Benetiere. Maybe I will open one young....
Sacrifices must be made

If anyone in NYC is up for it this week, I’m sure we can arrange it.

I had a really similar experience that you had with 15 jamet, i did a quick double decant and drank over a hour or so. Was not enjoyable. Makes me wonder if the double decant just shut it down or something. After that for the 15s I've been trying I've been doing 5+ hour decants and they show remark...

I had a really similar experience that you had with 15 jamet, i did a quick double decant and drank over a hour or so. Was not enjoyable. Makes me wonder if the double decant just shut it down or something. After that for the 15s I've been trying I've been doing 5+ hour decants and they show remark...

consumed over the course of 2 hours, did a quick double decant just to give it some air and sediment (only a little). served in zalto bdx stems. I had a really similar experience that you had with 15 jamet, i did a quick double decant and drank over a hour or so. Was not enjoyable. Makes me wonder ...

2017 Fourrier and Jacques Carillon.

Now I’m somewhat tempted to open one of mine. Somewhat.

How tastes and experiences with Burgundy differ! I had a 14 Grivot Clos de Vougeot out of magnum a few months back that I thought was the red wine of the night, whereas I have yet to drink a good bottle of Barthod, and it’s not for lack of trying. Somehow Barthod’s wines show either too much acid o...

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August 10th, 2019, 4:10 am

Greg K wrote: ↑
August 9th, 2019, 6:14 am
I’m a bit surprised you liked the 11 Barthod - those wines are quite green.
Les Cras was not green... (but Beaux Bruns was last year...) and was one of the better wines I had this year.

Mark Golodetz wrote: ↑
August 9th, 2019, 11:27 am
Some Cristal 2008.
Looking forward to getting some Taittinger Comtes but a little concerned at the pricing.

Mark, have you seen the pricing on the 2008 Comtes yet? Have been waiting for that one. Am thinking this may be going to be something I source in London.....

This is a safe space, right? No (real) names (come on, Owlfert?), no judgement? Okay then... I still really enjoy 1995-2000 Monbousquet. I am not sure I think of them as wine per se, they’re more like a delicious and surprisingly complex/exotic daiquiri. But fun to drink. Who said anything about no...

How tastes and experiences with Burgundy differ! I had a 14 Grivot Clos de Vougeot out of magnum a few months back that I thought was the red wine of the night, whereas I have yet to drink a good bottle of Barthod, and it’s not for lack of trying. Somehow Barthod’s wines show either too much acid o...

I’m a bit surprised you liked the 11 Barthod - those wines are quite green.

How tastes and experiences with Burgundy differ! I had a 14 Grivot Clos de Vougeot out of magnum a few months back that I thought was the red wine of the night, whereas I have yet to drink a good bottle of Barthod, and it’s not for lack of trying. Somehow Barthod’s wines show either too much acid or...

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