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by Pat Martin
November 28th, 2019, 8:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili
Replies: 19
Views: 1629

Re: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili

In my experience, the 05s Produttori's might be in the best place for current consumption of any vintage from 2000-2009 (caveats: I haven't touched the 2010s and younger yet, and never tried the 02s or 03s). It may run contrary to others' experiences and palate preferences (to say nothing of Aldo's)...
by Pat Martin
November 27th, 2019, 10:53 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1995 Chateau Magdelaine, St. Emilion - and some advisory comments for folks with more than half of a brain
Replies: 25
Views: 873

Re: TN: 1995 Chateau Magdelaine, St. Emilion - and some advisory comments for folks with more than half of a brain

I’m (still) not touching most of my sizable stash of 95s. There are lots of 95s in early maturity (mostly right bank), but I’ve not encountered one yet I consider even close to fully mature and tertiary. Almost 25 years old, but when I pick up a bottle and see the 95 vintage (or 96 for that matter),...
by Pat Martin
November 26th, 2019, 12:56 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili
Replies: 19
Views: 1629

Re: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
November 26th, 2019, 11:21 am
Meanwhile, it that other recent Barolo & Barbaresco thread, Kevin Harvey was claiming 2011 Produttori wines we’re past their best.

Go figure.
A matter of taste and/or experience, presumably.

I am definitely a card carrying member of the this-is-probably-too-young camp.
by Pat Martin
November 26th, 2019, 11:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili
Replies: 19
Views: 1629

Re: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili

I tried an 07 Ovello recently, and this wasn’t ready on day 1 at all for my tastes. I froze the bottom half of the bottle for a couple of days (my version of a coravin, works very well for young wines), and viola, it was terrific on “day 2”. Not sure what this says about the aging arc, but I’ll leav...
by Pat Martin
November 25th, 2019, 8:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Has anybody started trying Bordeaux 2005s? What are your views?
Replies: 65
Views: 3204

Re: Has anybody started trying Bordeaux 2005s? What are your views?

I’ll pile on and agree that even low end 05s can benefit from more time.

I wasn’t enthralled by the 05 Cantemerle either when I tried it, it seemed over extracted.
by Pat Martin
November 17th, 2019, 4:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili
Replies: 19
Views: 1629

Re: TN: 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco Riserva Asili

Where do the 07s fit into Aldo’s (or our) recommended windows?
by Pat Martin
November 10th, 2019, 9:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: ‘98 HB & ‘95 Léoville Barton.
Replies: 6
Views: 557

Re: ‘98 HB & ‘95 Léoville Barton.

Sounds nice. 95 might be a vintage I’d guess would be too austere for the Barton to really shine.
by Pat Martin
November 9th, 2019, 12:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: AG: 2016 And 2017 Barbaresco And Point Inflation
Replies: 31
Views: 2139

Re: AG: 2016 And 2017 Barbaresco And Point Inflation

94 points is a world class wine.
by Pat Martin
November 7th, 2019, 1:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2015 Domaine de Chevalier (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)
Replies: 28
Views: 1579

Re: TN: 2015 Domaine de Chevalier (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)

2015 Domaine de Chevalier - France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan (11/6/2019) Traditionalists, cover your eyes. This is not for you. It’s not full modern, with gobs of oak, and over the top richness, but damn it’s sexy wine. The fruit is ripe and suave, tannins present, but holding back, and the...
by Pat Martin
November 2nd, 2019, 8:18 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1970 Château Haut-Bailly (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)
Replies: 6
Views: 403

Re: TN: 1970 Château Haut-Bailly (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)

Nice note. I’ve had some lovely Haut Bailly from the 70’s, but not a 1970.
by Pat Martin
November 1st, 2019, 5:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 1996 Château Sociando-Mallet Cuvée Jean Gautreau, Haut-Medoc
Replies: 24
Views: 831

Re: TN: 1996 Château Sociando-Mallet Cuvée Jean Gautreau, Haut-Medoc

For current drinking at least, I’m ready to call the 95 Sociando (normale) my favorite by good margin of the post-1990 vintages.
by Pat Martin
October 25th, 2019, 5:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Beaujolais
Replies: 35
Views: 3470

Re: 2018 Beaujolais

Beaujolais is a new found pleasure for me.
by Pat Martin
October 24th, 2019, 7:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers
Replies: 163
Views: 6426

Re: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers

I agree that my preference would be for styrofoam especially when I hear someone like Morgan worry about heat issues with the alternatives. I get plenty of shipments in styrofoam that are not filled with little pieces. Ship in the right weather, and styro does not matter. Ship in the wrong weather,...
by Pat Martin
October 24th, 2019, 10:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers
Replies: 163
Views: 6426

Re: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers

No. I want my wine shipped in styrofoam. Anyone who wants to virtue-signal with their packing material should avoid the hobby/business (as the case may be) of shipping fragile, temperature-sensitive luxury goods thousands of miles. What's wrong with finding an alternative, that isn't styro, and is ...
by Pat Martin
October 23rd, 2019, 6:48 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best US Pinot for $30 or under
Replies: 80
Views: 5625

Re: Best US Pinot for $30 or under

I generally really like St Innocent’s PN, and their Villages Cuvee is priced in the low $20’s.

Belle Pente’s basic PN is also good and can be found for less than $25.
by Pat Martin
October 22nd, 2019, 6:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers
Replies: 163
Views: 6426

Re: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers

What was the last 24 bottles of halves you bought and how were they shipped? Never purchased a half before. My last shipment was from Winebid and it was styro. The one before that was from Seavey and it was pulp. Again, we're arguing mice nuts. Seavey Vineyard is a 200 acre property cut out of an o...
by Pat Martin
October 21st, 2019, 7:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 Vintage Champagne Ten Years After Release?
Replies: 15
Views: 1500

Re: 2008 Vintage Champagne Ten Years After Release?

I will take all of your poorly-aging 96s champagnes (and 1990 for that matter) off your hands for you. I will even waive charges for this service.
by Pat Martin
October 19th, 2019, 11:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers
Replies: 163
Views: 6426

Re: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers

A major perk of buying heavily at K&L is their default shippers are all cardboard-- sustainable, recyclable, compostable, no little bits of styrofoam everywhere, awesome. I suppose if I was shipping in higher temps, their cardboard shippers might (?) not provide enough insulation, but 99% of the tim...
by Pat Martin
October 12th, 2019, 7:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is your Champagne of the year?
Replies: 120
Views: 5780

Re: What is your Champagne of the year?

William Kelley wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 1:54 am
Old: a 1940s Krug Private Cuvée
Young: 2008 Egly-Ouriet

Some old runners-up:
1964 Henriot
1961 Gimonnet
1966 Lanson
1973 Bollinger RD
1988 Krug (though this should really be classed as a young runner-up)
1961 Dom Pérignon
You need to get out and live a little, William.
by Pat Martin
October 12th, 2019, 7:51 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 Bordeaux: a Gilman "profound" Bordeaux vintage - Your Recommendations?
Replies: 148
Views: 7604

Re: 2008 Bordeaux: a Gilman "profound" Bordeaux vintage - Your Recommendations?

Plus, aren’t the alcohol ranges significant, where the average was more like 12.5-13 back then and now we are getting many wines at 14.5+? Wasn’t it 2010 Tr0polong that one critique bragged about it coming in at 15.5? Exactly. Once upon a time, lots of fruit back didn’t mean really high alcohol — s...
by Pat Martin
October 12th, 2019, 7:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 Bordeaux: a Gilman "profound" Bordeaux vintage - Your Recommendations?
Replies: 148
Views: 7604

Re: 2008 Bordeaux: a Gilman "profound" Bordeaux vintage - Your Recommendations?

Off original topic, but I don’t see the comparisons to former ripe years like 82 and 90 to modern ripe vintages like 03 and 09. Wine making (and increasingly the effects of novel climate conditions on the grapes) changed so much in that time that all the things that went along with ripeness back in ...
by Pat Martin
October 11th, 2019, 4:58 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?
Replies: 36
Views: 2509

Re: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?

A Rubin Stein wrote:
October 11th, 2019, 3:40 pm
The auction market is softening.
True that. But I’ve still found K&L’s free estimates quite good. Either they’re conservative to begin with or they’ve successfully recalibrated.
by Pat Martin
October 11th, 2019, 4:56 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?
Replies: 36
Views: 2509

Re: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?

In Colorado at least, I can still ship wine to a retailer even if they can no longer ship to me, ie K&L.
by Pat Martin
October 11th, 2019, 8:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2014 Passopisciaro Etna Passorosso (Italy, Sicily, Etna DOC)
Replies: 4
Views: 338

Re: TN: 2014 Passopisciaro Etna Passorosso (Italy, Sicily, Etna DOC)

Is the heat a product of the vintage or is it now the house style? I drank some 06-08 passopisciaros back in the day and they didn’t come across as modern or overly ripe.
by Pat Martin
October 11th, 2019, 7:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?
Replies: 36
Views: 2509

Re: Best place to sell a few cases of wine?

Most auction houses I have dealt with have a minimum value for consignments. If the total value is >$5k, I believe K&L will accept it at a 15% commission (10% if >$10k). I’ve sold through K&L and Winebid, and both worked fine. I’d opt for K&L going forward.
by Pat Martin
October 10th, 2019, 5:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What is your Champagne of the year?
Replies: 120
Views: 5780

Re: What is your Champagne of the year?

Jay Miller wrote:
October 8th, 2019, 6:26 am
I've had a fair amount of fantastic Champagne this year but I don't even have to think about this one.

2004 Vilmart Coeur du Champagne (magnum)
I had the 2000 of this in March and it blew away some vintage and non vintage Krug.

A 2007 Philipponnat Clos des Goisses was also notably outstanding.
by Pat Martin
October 10th, 2019, 10:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 Bordeaux: a Gilman "profound" Bordeaux vintage - Your Recommendations?
Replies: 148
Views: 7604

Re: 2008 Bordeaux: a Gilman "profound" Bordeaux vintage - Your Recommendations?

If 08 Bordeaux turns out like the 85s have, we’ll all be very happy wine campers.
by Pat Martin
October 5th, 2019, 7:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2001 Christoffel Erdener Treppchen Spatlese
Replies: 10
Views: 501

Re: 2001 Christoffel Erdener Treppchen Spatlese

02 is my second favorite vintage from 2000-2010.
by Pat Martin
October 5th, 2019, 6:05 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is 2000 Bordeaux actually approachable now?
Replies: 45
Views: 1448

Re: Is 2000 Bordeaux actually approachable now?

Greg K wrote:
October 5th, 2019, 6:03 pm
D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
October 5th, 2019, 11:45 am
Aww...sarcasm hurts.
Not sarcasm, pedantry.
Nice!
by Pat Martin
October 5th, 2019, 6:02 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is 2000 Bordeaux actually approachable now?
Replies: 45
Views: 1448

Re: Is 2000 Bordeaux actually approachable now?

Petite Chateaux from 2000 are drinking well and have been for a good 5 years or so. For me, the grand cru stuff needs more time to peak, but there’s pleasure to be had today for all but the most structured wines.
by Pat Martin
October 5th, 2019, 1:54 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is 2000 Bordeaux actually approachable now?
Replies: 45
Views: 1448

Re: Is 2000 Bordeaux actually approachable now?

Mark Thompson wrote:
October 5th, 2019, 11:39 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
October 5th, 2019, 11:30 am
Craig G wrote:
October 5th, 2019, 11:03 am


Coincidentally, it rained on his wedding day.
David pisses on everyone. I only see his posts if he’s quoted.
That makes it Craig’s fault. [rofl.gif]
How ironic.
by Pat Martin
October 5th, 2019, 10:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2002 Léoville Barton
Replies: 25
Views: 2230

Re: 2002 Léoville Barton

Great to hear, gents.
by Pat Martin
October 5th, 2019, 10:02 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: My First Musar
Replies: 37
Views: 1819

Re: My First Musar

by Pat Martin
October 4th, 2019, 8:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 692
Views: 35859

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

FWIW, I was recently in Bordeaux and speaking to a person in the French wine industry about the proposed tariffs at that time, which Trump was touting at 100%. Thankfully, that did not come to pass, however 25% did. I asked her if she thought it was fair for Trump to go after French wine. Surprisin...
by Pat Martin
October 3rd, 2019, 9:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Montrose 2008
Replies: 9
Views: 852

Re: Montrose 2008

Hard as nails on release.

For my money, I’d look for the 08 Leoville Barton ($50 on release which I foolishly passed on).
by Pat Martin
October 3rd, 2019, 9:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Levet Les Journaries - To Heck w/the Rule of 15
Replies: 17
Views: 1241

Re: TN: 2011 Levet Les Journaries - To Heck w/the Rule of 15

I’ve had some Chinon that had a distinct scent of road kill.
by Pat Martin
October 3rd, 2019, 12:03 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 692
Views: 35859

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

I just spoke to K&L about my pre-arrivals, and they intend to honor the price originally paid by the customer on all pre-arrivals, even those impacted by the tariff. Quality outfit.
by Pat Martin
October 3rd, 2019, 9:23 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 692
Views: 35859

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

Guess my wife and I can wave bye-bye to Mosel Riesling for a while. [cry.gif] Time to backfill! German wines don’t seem to appreciate in price much at least in the USA. Auctions are the best option, K&L has heaps of back-vintage German Riesling on auction right now pretty much at release prices.
by Pat Martin
October 3rd, 2019, 9:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 692
Views: 35859

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

If retailers are willing and able to 100% refund futures and pre-arrivals impacted by this tariff, that is a much less contentious scenario. I guess much depends on what retailers have committed to the negociants and importers. Sure, we want our wine at the price we originally (thought) we paid for ...
by Pat Martin
October 3rd, 2019, 8:56 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 692
Views: 35859

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

Unless a particular merchant is tied to a specific delivery date in the next few months, I assume that they will just delay import of wines purchased on futures to the US and leave their wines in European storage until early next year when the Boeing ruling is delivered. I don't think anyone expect...
by Pat Martin
October 2nd, 2019, 4:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.
Replies: 692
Views: 35859

Re: US to impose 25% tariff on European wine, cheese, etc.

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
October 2nd, 2019, 3:57 pm
If the wines have not yet cleared customs then someone is going to pay 25% on the value of the imports.
I see some wrangling over canceling orders in our near future.
by Pat Martin
October 2nd, 2019, 7:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Levet Les Journaries - To Heck w/the Rule of 15
Replies: 17
Views: 1241

Re: TN: 2011 Levet Les Journaries - To Heck w/the Rule of 15

Great note, sounds “alive”. I bought a bunch of Journaries owning to your notes (and a few test drives)...

Alan’s post sounds like a recipe from a Rolland nightmare.
by Pat Martin
September 30th, 2019, 9:21 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2001 Christoffel Erdener Treppchen Spatlese
Replies: 10
Views: 501

Re: 2001 Christoffel Erdener Treppchen Spatlese

I know 01s often have an extra gear, but this was so good it is making me regret putting some of my non-01 rieslings up for auction (I just had so much).
by Pat Martin
September 29th, 2019, 7:52 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2001 Christoffel Erdener Treppchen Spatlese
Replies: 10
Views: 501

Re: 2001 Christoffel Erdener Treppchen Spatlese

Glad you liked it too. Give my regards to the old country.
by Pat Martin
September 29th, 2019, 7:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNS: 2000 Chateau Leoville Barton, 1999 Chateau Musar
Replies: 29
Views: 2116

Re: TNS: 2000 Chateau Leoville Barton, 1999 Chateau Musar

Cool, $70 seems super fair for such a wine, especially that (amazingly) is already 20 years old.
by Pat Martin
September 29th, 2019, 7:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TNS: 2000 Chateau Leoville Barton, 1999 Chateau Musar
Replies: 29
Views: 2116

Re: TNS: 2000 Chateau Leoville Barton, 1999 Chateau Musar

What’s the 1999 Musar selling for these days? Can you really only get it at auction at this point?

Love, love that vintage.
by Pat Martin
September 29th, 2019, 6:58 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2001 Christoffel Erdener Treppchen Spatlese
Replies: 10
Views: 501

2001 Christoffel Erdener Treppchen Spatlese

2001 Christoffel Erdener Treppchen Spatlese Wow, this is insanely good. I thought it was fully mature 4-5 years ago, but this bottle is even better as the elements are now perfectly integrated in an utter, silky seamlessness. Super fresh and citrusy despite all the honeyed notes, dry extract, and oi...
by Pat Martin
September 25th, 2019, 7:46 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Do I need to be drinking my Bordeauxs younger?
Replies: 54
Views: 2420

Re: Do I need to be drinking my Bordeauxs younger?

Lots of wisdom in this thread. So many moving parts... storage and provenance, bottle variation, palate preferences, changing wine styles, aging senses, following a given wine for decades vs trying it once or twice, what else? Hard to know exactly what changed. For my own part, early experiences in ...
by Pat Martin
September 24th, 2019, 5:20 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ridge Grenache Blanc...Who Knew??
Replies: 25
Views: 1539

Re: Ridge Grenache Blanc...Who Knew??

Had a Ridge Rose for the first time recently. I only found out they made one this past January. They make 2 different roses it turns out, I immensely enjoyed the Lytton Estate version that I had a barrel sample of and bought a few bottles when released (the bottled version has not impressed nearly a...

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