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by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 9:10 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Grassl Glass
Replies: 166
Views: 7513

Re: Grassl Glass

Thank *you,* Chris (and Alexander) for the amazing glassware! While the board may be partially to thank for helping with takeoff, the mountain of repeat orders proves you've met, and exceeded, consumer expectations at every juncture along the way. If the Grassl line wasn't up to snuff, first-time b...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 6:34 pm
Forum: Epicurean Exploits - Food and Recipes
Topic: Costco $550 Belota Iberico
Replies: 123
Views: 13767

Re: Costco $550 Belota Iberico

Great! Found this forum and thread when I searched on Covap Jamon Iberico. Our Costco Jamon pata negra arrived today and we look forward to enjoying slices as we learn how to do it. We have plenty of Tempranillo and Rioja in the wine cellar. I think we still have a bottle or two of Ribera del Duero...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 5:08 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

Jonathan G wrote: January 27th, 2021, 4:49 pm Missed out last year but excited to restock on the olive oil! First time trying out the tuna belly... mighty tempting.

Thank you so much!! The ventresca is amazing. champagne.gif champagne.gif champagne.gif
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 3:50 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Dave McIsaac wrote: January 27th, 2021, 3:40 pm Hi Nola,

I put in the shipping code, but was still charged shipping for the 6 pack sparklers.

I do have a guest friend who is looking for this as well.
Your order went through. Thank you!!
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 3:48 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Dave McIsaac wrote: January 27th, 2021, 3:40 pm Hi Nola,

Trying to buy your sparkler special, but it won't go into my cart.

No worries, we can sort out later.

I do have a guest friend who is looking for this as well.
That is strange, I just tried it myself and it lets me do it.
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 3:10 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

First-time orderer here too, looking forward to trying the oil and vinegar...not sure why I haven't before, but I'm remedying the situation! [cheers.gif] And I'd be happy to get a receipt email too, if possible. Thank you so much... I can do it. I am going to see is I can figure out a way that it d...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 2:52 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

First-time orderer here too, looking forward to trying the oil and vinegar...not sure why I haven't before, but I'm remedying the situation! [cheers.gif] And I'd be happy to get a receipt email too, if possible. Thank you so much... I can do it. I am going to see is I can figure out a way that it d...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 2:48 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Morgan Ranch Wagyu Berserker Day 12 Deal!
Replies: 143
Views: 3779

Re: Morgan Ranch Wagyu Berserker Day 12 Deal!

I am soooo happy Carrie and Dan were able to pull this off!!!! Beef it's what's for dinner!!!
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 2:42 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

BobMilton wrote: January 27th, 2021, 2:16 pm Bought some olive oil for the wife yesterday. Looking forward to what she cooks with it!
YES!!!
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 2:42 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

Thanks for the great offers Nola. Quick question - should we get an email with order confirmation? My CC shows the temporary authorization so it looks like it went thru ok, but the post-order confirmation page didn't show an order and I never got an email. Hi Steve, It is confirmed on my end. I wil...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 2:30 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Nick Ellis wrote: January 27th, 2021, 2:09 pm In for a 6er of Tempranillo.

Thank you sir!! flirtysmile flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 2:00 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

Francine Haight wrote: January 27th, 2021, 12:44 pm In for some La Bomba rice and yummy paella ingredients!! Thank you Nola!!
You are so welcome!! flirtysmile flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 1:58 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

Siun o'Connell wrote: January 27th, 2021, 12:59 pm Tuna and Sardines requested by the two chefs (daughter & SIL) ... off to pick some Veleta wine for me.
Awesome, thank you!!!! flirtysmile flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 1:48 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Siun o'Connell wrote: January 27th, 2021, 1:44 pm Heard the Nolados are amazing so in for six! Love Veleta!
Thank you Siun!!!
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 12:41 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

MikeHill wrote: January 27th, 2021, 12:37 pm In for the Elite package. I've enjoyed the Veleta wines, but now I'm excited to add some of this delicious food as well!
Thank you Mike!!! flirtysmile flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 11:58 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

CliftonD wrote: January 27th, 2021, 11:54 am In for 2021 EVOO and 2x Sardines!
Awesome Clifton!! Thank you!!! flirtysmile flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 11:33 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Newbies
Replies: 3
Views: 509

Re: Newbies

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by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 11:07 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

Nola, thanks for the information on the allergens yesterday. Order placed! You are very welcome!!! This is a good PSA: My EVOO is estate grown, harvested and processed within about 2 hours of harvest. There is zero chance for adulteration by an other oils. So if family members or you have allergies...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 10:46 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Nola Palomar wrote: January 27th, 2021, 10:14 am
ONLY 1 LEFT!!

BD12 Nola’s Deal – Private Reserve (6 pk) $170

https://www.gourmetsofspain.com/store/p ... VE_.html#/
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 10:38 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Hi, the free shipping code didn’t work. Thanks for this offer. Hmmm I am not sure why it didn't work, no worries, I refunded your shipping charges for you. Tom, I received a 2nd email later showing the order was "canceled" but it was just a shipping refund. Nola I finally made up my mind ...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 10:16 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Morgan Ranch Wagyu Berserker Day 12 Deal!
Replies: 143
Views: 3779

Re: Morgan Ranch Wagyu Berserker Day 12 Deal!

Carrie Morgan wrote: January 27th, 2021, 10:13 am In between answering questions and doing our own BD12 shopping, we are packing shipments. Thanks for showing us the love!
Love this!!! neener flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 10:14 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

wrote: January 27th, 2021, 9:45 am ONLY 2 LEFT!!

BD12 Nola’s Deal – Private Reserve (6 pk) $170

https://www.gourmetsofspain.com/store/p ... VE_.html#/


Kendall Thank you for the generous order.. flirtysmile flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 9:32 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

brigcampbell wrote: January 27th, 2021, 9:30 am Just purchased the paella for a friend, can't find bomba rice anywhere and it's the bomb!
This is THE essential rice to make paella!!! champagne.gif champagne.gif flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 9:31 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

T. Melloni wrote: January 27th, 2021, 9:12 am Order placed.
I bought more than I need but less than I want.
[wow.gif] [wow.gif] [wow.gif] neener flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 9:13 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

How is the Vijirieja drinking after 5-6 years? I'm normally a sucker for rare indigenous varietals but there is astonishingly little information available about Vijirieja. It is holding great. I just popped a cork on a 2015 during a Zoom meeting with Berserkers a week or so ago and it was delicious...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 9:04 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

Joe Chanley wrote: January 27th, 2021, 9:02 am first time buyer in for EVOO, balsamic and ventresca....excited to try
Well Welcome to my Veleta Gourmets then!!! Thank you for your order!!!
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 9:01 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

How is the Vijirieja drinking after 5-6 years? I'm normally a sucker for rare indigenous varietals but there is astonishingly little information available about Vijirieja. It is holding great. I just popped a cork on a 2015 during a Zoom meeting with Berserkers a week or so ago and it was delicious...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 8:58 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

In for some 2020 Olive oil, Balsamico, Paprika and Mussels! First time ordering for me! Very excited! Thank you Seth!!! flirtysmile flirtysmile Backed up the truck on the canned fish ! Can't wait for Feb Thank you Joe!! I can't wait until it arrives from Spain to get it shipped out!! flirtysmile fl...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 8:51 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

Nola, I went to order the Grand Veleta Gourmet Combo. The site says BD offer says $230, but the site has $250. I will pay whatever the correct price is, but just wondering. Thanks! Brad Hi Brad, thank you, typo here.. Fixed flirtysmile flirtysmile Thanks. Order placed. I couldn't resist also orderi...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 8:37 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

Br@d S w @ l l o w wrote: January 27th, 2021, 8:34 am Nola,

I went to order the Grand Veleta Gourmet Combo. The site says BD offer says $230, but the site has $250. I will pay whatever the correct price is, but just wondering.

Thanks!

Brad
Hi Brad, thank you, typo here.. Fixed flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 8:32 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Grassl Glass
Replies: 166
Views: 7513

Re: Grassl Glass

I absolutely LOVE the Liberte and Mineralite!! They are as close to perfect as it gets for me. Not heavy like my Riedels that I hand etched. flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 8:26 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

My wife doesn’t eat tuna, mussels, etc. but I can have them for lunch any time! Let’s all do whatever we can for a woman running a business that has been hit by misguided tariffs! FYI, text for https://www.gourmetsofspain.com/store/p400/BD12_2020_Veleta_Extra_Virgin_Olive_Oil_%2812_pk%29_.html#/ BD...
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 7:54 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

ShannonW wrote: January 27th, 2021, 7:53 am Thanks Nola! Ordering some now. So excited to try!
Thank you!!!
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 7:53 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Patrick T a y l o r wrote: January 27th, 2021, 7:50 am Thank you for offering these. About a year ago, I was driving from Cordoba to Toledo. There were groves of olive trees as far as the eye could see! Good times. I ordered The Elite Selection.
It is a great place to drive through. Love the rolling hills of green trees!!! Thank you for the order!!
by Nola Palomar
January 27th, 2021, 7:45 am
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

ShannonW wrote: January 27th, 2021, 7:36 am Is the paella combo supposed to be $65 (on website) or $55 (in forum)?
Typo here, fixed
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 8:05 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

TGigante wrote: January 26th, 2021, 8:03 pm Order in Nola!
EVOO and Ventresca
Awesome, thank you so much!! flirtysmile flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 8:04 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

K_F_o_l_e_y wrote: January 26th, 2021, 7:49 pm I've been on WB since almost the beginning, and this is actually my first ever BD purchase! champagne.gif
Thank you for choosing my Wine Sampler as your first choice!! flirtysmile flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 6:45 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Scott Brunson wrote: January 26th, 2021, 6:01 pm Def in for 05 Cab and Vijiriega. [cheers.gif]

Easiest buy every year (after oil and fishies)
flirtysmile flirtysmile flirtysmile champagne.gif champagne.gif champagne.gif
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 5:36 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

Robert M yers wrote: January 26th, 2021, 5:21 pm Order In!
Got it, thank you!!
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 5:31 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Albert R wrote: January 26th, 2021, 5:21 pm Took a six pack of the Reserva's Duo! Thank you Nola!
You are welcome!! Thank you!! [cheers.gif] [cheers.gif] flirtysmile flirtysmile
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 5:12 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!
Replies: 145
Views: 3309

Re: Veleta Gourmets BD12 DEALS!!

tpetty wrote: January 26th, 2021, 5:02 pm In for some oil. Never tried it before. thanks!
I think you will be quite happy. flirtysmile flirtysmile Thank you for your order!
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 5:11 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Bill Mauger wrote: January 26th, 2021, 5:04 pm
Ed Kurtzman wrote: January 26th, 2021, 4:38 pm In for the 6 pack of Nolados. What a deal!! Thanks, Nola, can't wait to try the 2004!
Order in! I also had to try the Nolados & some Cab!

Thanks Nola! [cheers.gif]
I got your message and will coordinate with you as you need!! Thank you !!
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 4:55 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals
Replies: 64
Views: 1677

Re: VELETA WINES - Berserker Day 12 Deals

Ed Kurtzman wrote: January 26th, 2021, 4:38 pm In for the 6 pack of Nolados. What a deal!! Thanks, Nola, can't wait to try the 2004!
I am looking forward for you to try it!!!
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 4:25 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: Sandler BerserkerDay 12 4 packs and 6 packs-32% off with Shipping Included!!!
Replies: 66
Views: 3083

Re: Sandler BerserkerDay 12 4 packs and 6 packs-32% off with Shipping Included!!!

Ed Kurtzman wrote: January 26th, 2021, 11:26 am

And Nola, thank you! I hope to come to your winery in Spain next summer to make up for this past summer!!!! Now I'm going to your two offerings.
Berserker Sneak Peak!! This is not just R&R, we'll be doing some winemaking!!!
by Nola Palomar
January 26th, 2021, 3:45 pm
Forum: BerserkerDay 12 (Jan 27, 2021) "The Black Friday of Wine Commerce" - Forbes
Topic: *Flannery Beef* Back Again!
Replies: 164
Views: 6908

Re: *Flannery Beef* Back Again!

Did anyone get an email confirmation of their order? I didn’t and want to make sure it actually went through as I had 2 ribeyes in my order and don’t want them to sell out if I need to order again. The site displayed a confirmation number for my order but it was just before the site started having ...

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