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I’m waiting for the blood in the streets.

jnbrown wrote: ↑
February 28th, 2020, 8:27 pm

I am the worlds worst investor, what ever I do the market does the opposite.
So expect a further plunge.

Index - Buy - Hold - Rebalance

Aww. I loved Grape Radio in its day. And it has been missed for some time. The king is dead.

Thank goodness for Levi Dalton's I’ll Drink To That. Long live the king!

This Rion is one of the very few top rank producers to remain firmly under the radar, it seems to me. Tom. I trust my post won’t ruin the secret. What do you think of other Rion wines, say Daniel? [cheers.gif] Antoine, do you think Amoureuses is more of a solare vintage wine? Though I have some 9, ...

I asked because I wonder if the absentee bids were submitted before the market went into its slump. How many people would have retracted their bids this week? Many bids are submitted far ahead. But you can pull your bid until that lot is live. It’s easy. That said, I had to tell another guy about t...

Perhaps DRC is an alternative asset class. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I know at least one person who canceled HDH bids. He didn’t realize you could cancel until I told him. I suspect others made bids before this week's decline, and are just letting them ride.

Next month's burg auction will be more interesting.

I opened a few of these 9-10 years ago, and found them a bit course and out of balance. I mentally raised a fist at Frank Murray, whose note encouraged me to buy a case. Times have changed. Decanted and started to drink after an hour. Beautiful delicate light ruby, almost rose, ultra transparent. Ea...

Not put off by that, only by Francois thinking that you can only start drinking wines at 50+ years of age. If I had that kind of thinking I never would have gotten into wine in the first place because I still couldn't drink wines purchased in the 1980's. I don’t think he’s making that claim at all,...

A quick aside - For those who are put off by Francois’ use of the word “amateur,” think of it as lover, meaning one who is truly passionate about wine, in this context. It is it a level beyond mere appreciation, more akin to geekdom. The French do not mean this word in the pejorative way some Englis...

Agree 100%. Last year We drank one, and loved it so much I opened another a week later. This is probably just in my head, but I felt I was drinking Oakville, not some random mixed black blend. Fantastic.

Hi Mike, My wife often tells others that I trained her to like Burgundy, by giving her sample after sample until she got used the acidity. I think the same might be true for aged wines. In maybe 1998, we went to an old Italian restaurant, with the goal of opening a “really old” Nebbiolo. We told the...

I would imagine given a recession (which could be years off and not very deep) 2nd tier auction darlings might lower a bit as well but I really just don't see GC from even mid-range producers getting any cheaper. There were great deals to be had during and after the financial crisis. I bought well,...

This looks awesome too! I played with it for a few minutes and couldn’t find a key linking owner number to owner name. Tell me I was silly and overlooked the obvious. Thanks. Sadly there is no such thing. If you are a registered architect you can write in and find out, but the information has not b...

You can see the cadastral map here: https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/carte?c=4.954644255508424,47.177552612901906&z=18&l0=ORTHOIMAGERY.ORTHOPHOTOS::GEOPORTAIL:OGC:WMTS(1)&l1=CADASTRALPARCELS.PARCELS::GEOPORTAIL:OGC:WMTS(1)&permalink=yes This looks awesome too! I played with it for a few minutes and c...

I officially withdraw my “same as last bottle” pet peeve.

I also am a member at WWS and will agree it’s a great place to drink. I’d agree to meet there if that’s the consensus. But wouldn’t a nice dinner and Chambolle be better? Chambolle theme is just an example, I’m super flexible. If we do choose a theme others are short on, I’m sure we can arrange a bu...

One new thing about the next edition is that Jasper intends to cover Beaujolais with discussion of 60+ producers.

Nathan Smyth wrote: ↑
February 11th, 2020, 12:29 pm
When burgundian obsessives taste blind, they can [with reasonable certainty] exclaim, "Oh, that's obviously Charmes-Chambertin!" [rather than Le Chambertin].

Off topic, but this happens far less often than people think.

When I think modern wines, I think Parkerized wines, low acid, ample oak, highly polished, and gobs of fruit.

Fruit forward is probably a characteristic, but not the only one.

Hey, nice to see my old thread got revived... a few times. I kind of gave up on it so hadn’t checked offline planner. Doh. I’d be happy to do a 2013 Burg / Pinot tasting. Or a Fourrier vertical? Or our own “Not La Paulee?” Or anything, really. Should we set a date in March? I will PM those who repli...

It wasn’t that long ago that Constellation paid $285mm for The Prisoner portfolio which the lead wine was a Cali field blend dominated by Zinfandel. The hipsters may hate The Prisoner (as do I generally) but Constellation must’ve thought a whole lot of other people loved it! Edit: $285mm not $265mm...

I love Zinfandel and mixed blacks, and I’m grateful that only a few of us think of fine examples as grand cru quality. There may be a lot of old-vine vineyards, but not nearly enough to accommodate the wine drinking world if zin became particularly trendy. For anybody who has dabbled in Burgundy, $5...

That was great, Gerhard. You probably just helped the next edition be a bit better. Please post if you think of more. Thanks.

David, Jasper wrote that he intends to release the new version by April 2021, hopefully sooner. JF, I don’t know if they’ll do an electronic version. I’ll ask. Antoine, same answer about a French edition. Gerhard, I’ll log your Clos St Marc finding. If you could be more specific about index issues, ...

reading the e-book on Volnay and just noticed that this copy I'm looking at says: "The Clos de la Barre is south east facing, with valuable heat retention from its chalky brown soil on hard middle jurassic limestone bedrock. The moderate slope is enough to give good ." the sentence just ends in the...

Au Bon Climat: I missed the boat. A year ago I had two together, nothing like each other, I suspect Clendenen is a genius. But I don't known enough. I have one bottle of Chanin Au Bon Climat, 2011 I think, I might never find the right time to open it Missed the boat? Has it left? Did something happ...

B. Buzzini wrote: ↑
February 6th, 2020, 7:42 pm
Load up on 17 as the 18(Bertheau) is a disaster from what I heard?

Have you heard this from anybody who tasted in the cellar, rather than London EP? The latter is notoriously variable. Davy Strange's earlier thread here was based on a London tasting.

TN:2012 David Duband Morey St Denis Pop and pour. A very clean, red-fruited nose with pronounced stems. On the palate, very light and linear. If blind I’d guess a good Bourgogne or village from the flatter area of Chambolle. No way I’d guess 2012, much too light for that. Really no hint of Morey, ma...

Brady, Maybe a different title? "Any corrections for Jasper's next Edition?" or some such. I don't know nearly enough to come up with any, but I do love his book and read it cover to cover. Btw, as an author I always appreciate when people do find typos or mistakes and I always include their names ...

Jasper hoped people would be more willing to tell a third party that he got something wrong than they would be telling him. Funnily, I’ve seen folks raise an issue with him face-to-face, but perhaps alcohol was involved. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Inside Burgundy by Jasper Morris is many burg lovers' go-to reference. He is working on a new edition of the book because it was published ten years ago, and much has changed since then. I suspect that because Jasper has since left his wine buyer role, he will provide even more revealing opinions. I...

10/10. Definitely not 11/11. What’s Van Weidlich? Von Weidlich is now called Lemorel, the estate vineyard of Eric Sussman's Radio Coteau winery. It is a Sonoma Coast appellation old vine zin planted in the 40s, that produces absolutely stunning wines. I tasted the '15 last night. This cool climate ...

I remember when grand crus got 89

No knock meant. Today’s villages are great!

10/10. Definitely not 11/11. What’s Van Weidlich?

some of these wines mentioned really push the $50 envelope for sure. HN Bourgogne is a solid perennial well under the range bet, as is Hudelot Noellats Bourgogne. You can get about 10 bottlings from the previously mentioned Tardy et Fils that meet the requirement, and are really solid wines. I boug...

Wow, my pet peeve kinda blew up. I don’t want to be accused of a hit-and-run. What do y’all say we try to make something productive out of this? How about we convert pet peeves to best practices? Compile and debate them here, then share on CT’s board for further debate or ignoring, as they see fit. ...

John, Where do you live? If you have a good local merchant, work with them. Tell them you’d like to try six (or twelve) good and various-styled $50 burgs. Then come back to us and tell us what you liked and why, and what you didn’t like and why. Then we’ll be of more use. This worked well for my wif...

Bump.

If interested, also consider adding your CT handle to your sig.

For those new to the list, don’t feel that you missed out. Even long-timers were offered just a bit over a case, and just single bottles of the rarer wines. Plus there’ll be another offer later this year.

(Maybe there are some even-longer-timers who got more) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dennis Borczon wrote: ↑
January 15th, 2020, 5:43 am
Sold off mine. 2010s are better for me. Still was listening to Parker at that time

I too was slow to trust my own palate. I finally dropped Parker after his 2007 Rhône coronation.

Levi Dalton, whose podcasts are wonderully informative, has, on another board, regularly argued that wine is meaning-bearing and that it literally talks to him. I suppose for him, it could be an art form. All I can say is that it hasn't ever literally talked to me. I’d love to read this. Which boar...

I think the most common offender is “same as last bottle.” But here’s one that annoys me even more. I see many notes saying a wine that should be good is “done,” “past it,” or “over-the-hill,” with no explanation of provenance. I don’t know what to make of such a note. It would be super-useful if no...

Tegan, will the Sandlands Zin be on the Fall mailer then? Thanks, Tom Lee Tom- That’s the current plan. I am currently waiting tasting notes and drinking the 2018 Zinfandel. There is a slight possibility that I add I to this release. Best, Tegan Hi Tegan, Do you have any thoughts or tasting notes o...

I've given this much thought and came up with the following timeline. Traditionalists: Robert Mondavi, Brad Webb, André Tchelistcheff, Jeffrey Patterson and Paul Draper. All embraced traditional French winemaking styles while each leaving their unique mark on their wines. Modern: Rolland, Cambie, D...

Levi Dalton, whose podcasts are wonderully informative, has, on another board, regularly argued that wine is meaning-bearing and that it literally talks to him. I suppose for him, it could be an art form. All I can say is that it hasn't ever literally talked to me. I’d love to read this. Which board?

Bonjour Antoine! I live in Portland OR. Come visit, its great! Do a whole west coast thing, including your niece and us.

Yeah, there are some truly great old burg and Piedmont threads.

Perhaps a good reminder not to attempt 14’ reds right now. I’ve been trying to avoid anything in the 2011-2016 space. Implying you are drinking 10's? I'm surprised. Honestly, I am guilty of the same, finding them still primary and delicious. I've seems some suggestions they are shutting down though...

Hey Eric, please don’t take down your CT posts, even if you can’t add more. Thanks.

I liked this thread, so I am bumping it eight years later.

Great contributions from many who are still on this board.

There was much sadness that folks would never get to try Jayer, and sadly Jayer is even less acquirable than then.

Howard Cooper wrote: ↑
January 19th, 2020, 4:41 pm
I love milkshakes, but I have never had one that matches the experience of a top hot fudge sundae.

Epiphany opportunity spotted. Let the quest begin! I suggest starting with Milk Shake Advocate though their scoring has compressed in recent years.

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