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- January 23rd, 2021, 12:14 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
- Replies: 171
- Views: 7077
Re: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
I understand the hesitation to declare 2010 a great vintage, because it seems too easy. My “concern” with 2010 is only with its longevity in comparison with other vintages. I suspect it will be surpassed in 20-30 years by the other notable vintages, and some folks consider longevity to be a key fac...
- January 22nd, 2021, 8:55 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Not much Australia talk here...
- Replies: 88
- Views: 4164
Re: Not much Australia talk here...
I blame Marquis Phillips and TWA. Sparky had good luck making big wines at Fox Creek, then decided to turn it up to eleven at the new label. Parker dug them and others emulated them. Then came Mollydooker, which swung for a twelve. Also I think I remember that Dan Phillips' collapse adversely affect...
- January 22nd, 2021, 8:37 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
- Replies: 171
- Views: 7077
Re: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
Thats the funny thing about Burgundy. The more you know, the less you know. You say that as it is a bad thing. This is what makes Burgundy so much fun. We choose to go to Burgundy not because it is easy but because it is hard. I did not write clearly enough then. We are in complete agreement.
- January 21st, 2021, 2:46 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: POLL: Top vintage for red Bordeaux 1980 - 1999
- Replies: 41
- Views: 1728
Re: POLL: Top vintage for red Bordeaux 1980 - 1999
Variations over the same theme, Brady. In fact, I have a difficult time choosing one vintage over another. I might as well have chosen 1982 or 1990. But yesterday I felt 1996ish [cheers.gif] I was mostly teasing, but didn’t want to use the neener symbol. Thanks for not being offended. [cheers.gif]
- January 21st, 2021, 2:28 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
- Replies: 171
- Views: 7077
Re: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
Above, I took the opposite position, believing that '09 will long outlive '10. I suspect the wines will find a way to prove us both wrong. Thats the funny thing about Burgundy. The more you know, the less you know.Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑January 20th, 2021, 4:43 am In many cases I may prefer the 09 now but it may not age as well.
- January 19th, 2021, 8:47 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
- Replies: 171
- Views: 7077
Re: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
I am picking 2010. Makes it easier that 1999 is not eligible. Again, 2000 for this purpose is in the 21st Century so we have 20 years. As someone who knows very little about Burgundy, what would be a good 1999 for ≈$500? (Or does that not exist anymore) That’s my sister’s birth year and if it’s a f...
- January 19th, 2021, 11:34 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Why is Corton so inexpensive?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2196
Re: Why is Corton so inexpensive?
Jasper Morris recently did an hour long video on this topic. Howard's views seem to mostly align with his:
- January 19th, 2021, 11:18 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: POLL: Top vintage for red Bordeaux 1980 - 1999
- Replies: 41
- Views: 1728
Re: POLL: Top vintage for red Bordeaux 1980 - 1999
1982- spectacular wines from both banks. 1985- glorious wines from both banks. 1986- glorious, but still quite tannic wines from both banks. 1989- haven´t tasted enough of them to compare the general quality. 1990- glorious wines from both banks. 1996- the left bankers I have tasted have practicall...
- January 19th, 2021, 11:13 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Wine rules you should break
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2438
Re: Wine rules you should break
I'd say the only rule there that probably shouldn't be broken is putting ice in wine. Unless you have a 16% ABV, high extract wine that could stand to be watered back a bit, I don't like the idea at all. I have a couple of standard cooling approaches when I'm decanting a red wine. If the wine is to...
- January 18th, 2021, 6:59 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Conflicted: TN 2002 Clos Vougeot Grand Maupertuis
- Replies: 7
- Views: 648
Re: Conflicted: TN 2002 Clos Vougeot Grand Maupertuis
I suspect this wine had plenty of bite in its youth. What you describe sounds right for an aging wine.
I’d love if you could try a 2017 of the same to compare, and report back to us.
Aging generally takes the edge off of wines. It’s okay if you don’t like that and don’t prefer older wine!
I’d love if you could try a 2017 of the same to compare, and report back to us.
Aging generally takes the edge off of wines. It’s okay if you don’t like that and don’t prefer older wine!
- January 18th, 2021, 6:40 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
- Replies: 171
- Views: 7077
Re: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
Gotta say, as much as I like 2010 I’m kind of shocked at the consensus. There have just been so many good vintages in the new millennium. I agree that there have been many excellent vintages, but 2010 is unique in having enough acid for the traditionalists, enough fruit for all, being an upside sur...
- January 18th, 2021, 8:58 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: POLL: Top vintage for red Bordeaux 1980 - 1999
- Replies: 41
- Views: 1728
Re: Top vintage for red Bordeaux 1980 - 1999
I would vote 1998 right bank, given the option.
- January 17th, 2021, 6:44 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
- Replies: 171
- Views: 7077
Re: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
I should put whoever voted for 2004 on ignore as I would have a hard time following any of their advice with respect to any wine. The 04 and 11 choices really threw me. Also not a single vote for 02 yet which I would put higher than a lot of choices made so far. I think 09/10 but hard to say what w...
- January 17th, 2021, 12:29 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Wine rules you should break
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2438
Wine rules you should break
I’m not convinced all or even most of these are real rules, but I’ve broken every one with pleasure. My personal favorite is adding ice to a too warm red wine.
https://www.mashed.com/97943/wine-rules-break/
https://www.mashed.com/97943/wine-rules-break/
- January 17th, 2021, 11:30 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century
- Replies: 75
- Views: 3109
Re: Poll: Top Red Bordeaux vintage of the Century
What’s drinking well now?
Have 2000 and 2005 (my last Bordeaux EP vintage) lived up to their initial hype?
Have 2000 and 2005 (my last Bordeaux EP vintage) lived up to their initial hype?
- January 17th, 2021, 11:14 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
- Replies: 171
- Views: 7077
Re: Top Red Burgundy vintage of the 21st century so far
For consumption over the next ten to fifteen years, 2010. After that, 2005, 2009, and 2015 may eclipse it. I suspect in thirty years they will be superior. Who knows?
But I’m already loving 2010, and expect to continue for a long time.
But I’m already loving 2010, and expect to continue for a long time.
- January 14th, 2021, 4:48 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: How good is the 2005 Burgundy vintage
- Replies: 105
- Views: 7601
Re: How good is the 2005 Burgundy vintage
I think it’s worth noting that burgundy doesn’t really age in a linear fashion and the wines tend to open and close and get better and worse multiple times from youth to maturity, so just waiting doesn’t necessarily mean you are going to catch it at the right point. I've heard this before, but seem...
- November 25th, 2020, 6:36 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Jadot 2019's
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1130
Re: Jadot 2019's
Has there been a significant style change since the retirement of Jacques Lardière?
Are they still built for age over early consumption?
Are they still built for age over early consumption?
- November 23rd, 2020, 6:58 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Doh! Ever do this before?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2373
Re: Doh! Ever do this before?
Older Rhys bottles are super easy to this with. Tiny fonts for my ageing eyes.
- November 23rd, 2020, 6:52 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: 2017 Hudelot-Noellat Chambolle-Musigny
- Replies: 25
- Views: 1348
Re: TN: 2017 Hudelot-Noellat Chambolle-Musigny
59 degrees, HN AC Chambolle, 14-16 vintages; just a rough sweet spot Brian, as with many burgs, I’d recommend drinking these in the first two to three years, or waiting at least ten years, preferably fifteen. HN's current style is very rewarding in its youth. The time in between age two and fifteen...
- November 20th, 2020, 11:39 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: 2013 Felettig Chambolle-Musigny VV
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1335
Re: TN: 2013 Felettig Chambolle-Musigny VV
I don’t have much experience with Felettig. Where would you put them on the Chambolle spectrum, from light/pretty to dark/concentrated?
It’s nice to see a good note for 2013, a vintage that is worrying me right now. Hopefully it’s just in an awkward spot.
It’s nice to see a good note for 2013, a vintage that is worrying me right now. Hopefully it’s just in an awkward spot.
- November 20th, 2020, 11:29 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: 1970 Produttori del Barbaresco (normale)
- Replies: 24
- Views: 1507
Re: TN: 1970 Produttori del Barbaresco (normale)
Thanks Andrew, We recently drank my fourth 1967 PdB normale. Left it upright for four months. Decanted super-slow, leaving maybe 1/8th bottle. It definitely had more sediment than yours. The wine was fully mature, identical in color to yours. It was absolutely stunning, far more vibrant than any 53 ...
- November 17th, 2020, 11:00 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: 2019 Burgundy Report from Fine & Rare
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2506
Re: 2019 Burgundy Report from Fine & Rare
I love Burgundy. I worry when Burgundy tasting notes start to sound like California Pinot notes. “EVERY dial seems to have been turned up” makes me nervous. Yes, I read the whole thing, and I know the critics say the terroir differences are still there. But other places have terroir too and marginal...
- November 17th, 2020, 10:44 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Musigny prices
- Replies: 54
- Views: 4287
Re: Musigny prices
Why do the Vogüé bottlings come in so much cheaper? Is it the perception that the wines have not been living up to the terroir, or is it in fact a disadvantage to own 80% of the vineyard? DRC owns some very large parcels, and even some monopoles, and their prices aren’t suffering. I think that hint...
- November 17th, 2020, 10:40 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Musigny prices
- Replies: 54
- Views: 4287
Re: Musigny prices
Interesting! I’ve always heard Faiveley Musigny was usually very good, but wildly inconsistent, largely due to the fact that its tiny quantity means its wood to liquid ratio is very high, and it was all from one tiny parcel, so no lots could be rejected. I’ve never had it, and have no opinion, it’s ...
- November 8th, 2020, 2:17 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: 2005 Sine Qua Non Atlantis Fe2O3-1b Syrah
- Replies: 20
- Views: 902
Re: TN: 2005 Sine Qua Non Atlantis Fe2O3-1b Syrah
Me too. I thought it was amazing and bought eight more. I think we have three left. Glad to hear they’re still drinking well!
- October 30th, 2020, 6:07 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: ‘93 Red Burgundy
- Replies: 25
- Views: 1648
Re: ‘93 Red Burgundy
Barthod Chambolle Veroilles was recently delicious. Really a unicorn, a Barthod that’s ready.
- October 30th, 2020, 6:03 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: 2018 Jean-Marie Fourrier Bourgogne Rouge
- Replies: 4
- Views: 348
Re: TN: 2018 Jean-Marie Fourrier Bourgogne Rouge
I really like Fourrier bourgognes. For me they perfectly capture the house style at a better price point. I haven’t tried the 2018 yet, but it sure sounds like a 2018. Welcome to the new normal. Many in burgundy consider climate change as a minor miracle for the region. They are probably right and f...
- October 30th, 2020, 4:00 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: 2017 Jouan Chambolle Musigny VV
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1075
Re: 2017 Jouan Chambolle Musigny VV
I still buy Jouan over there, Antoine.
I picked up some here at auction in the spring. Also bought some Bourgogne and village 17’s to keep my hands off the CSD's.
Miss you too, buddy. No London January en primeur tasting in the cards for me this year, sadly.
I picked up some here at auction in the spring. Also bought some Bourgogne and village 17’s to keep my hands off the CSD's.
Miss you too, buddy. No London January en primeur tasting in the cards for me this year, sadly.
- October 30th, 2020, 3:30 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: 2017 Jouan Chambolle Musigny VV
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1075
Re: 2017 Jouan Chambolle Musigny VV
I regularly change which Jouan village wine is my favorite. Generally it’s the one in front of me. However, the 2017 Gevrey Aux Echezeaux is a triumph, and I had to double check that I hadn’t accidentally opened a Clos Sorbe. It was that good. The Morey and Chambolle are both certainly fine as well....
- October 30th, 2020, 3:13 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: #winebitch / Misogyny in Wine and the Fallout
- Replies: 51
- Views: 7469
Re: #winebitch / Misogyny in Wine and the Fallout
Promise?Steve Costigan wrote: ↑October 29th, 2020, 8:43 pm Don’t waste your time responding. Signing off WB permanently.
- October 20th, 2020, 11:09 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: 2009 Rhys Pinot Noir Family Farm Vineyard
- Replies: 10
- Views: 936
Re: TN: 2009 Rhys Pinot Noir Family Farm Vineyard
My experience with this wine is that it was hit or miss on the brett. The bad ones were quite bad, the good ones, quite proper Family Farms. I never did request that refund.
- October 14th, 2020, 5:43 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Best producers in Chambolle Musigny?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 4727
Re: Best producers in Chambolle Musigny?
Well, Brady, Amoureuses 2013 is the only Bertheau I have had (in Le Chambolle in Chambolle last year) and although it had a lot of Chambolle charm, it ended with a somewhat unpleasant bitterness. Otherwise, it was very fine and Chambolle reputation style. Pity about the Amoureuses, Antoine. One doe...
- October 10th, 2020, 9:43 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Best producers in Chambolle Musigny?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 4727
Re: Best producers in Chambolle Musigny?
Friends, I agree that ROUMIER and MUGNIER belong at the very top. Do not forget HUDELOT-BAILLET however. Decent prices (much cheaper than the 2 superstars) and winemaker D LE GUEN is a rising star. More concentraded wines than the ones found at Berteau's and at least as fine as BARTHOD's . Deliciou...
- September 10th, 2020, 11:57 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Fires-Oregon
- Replies: 131
- Views: 10433
Re: Fires-Oregon
It's really smoky today here in Portland. I've got an older house for Portland (1912), built long before Tyvek and never resealed. The whole house smells of smoke. I'm wearing a face mask in my office. Yeah, super smoky today. The wind stopped allowing the smoke to descend. We are lucky our house i...
- September 10th, 2020, 11:09 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: 2018 Red Burgs - time to crack a few!
- Replies: 67
- Views: 5577
Re: 2018 Red Burgs - time to crack a few!
In short, yes. You just really taste the sunshine. The 2018 vintage experienced 290 more sunlight hours (i.e. about 30% more) between May and September than the average. Plenty of producers overcame the risk of making rustic monsters, but it's much harder to overcome the sucrosity of fruit that I'd...
- September 10th, 2020, 11:02 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: MacDonald release is imminent!!!
- Replies: 201
- Views: 20602
Re: MacDonald release is imminent!!!
This could be arranged.Glenn L e v i n e wrote: ↑September 10th, 2020, 7:00 am I’ll pull a cork or two anyone wants to visit SW OR.
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- September 10th, 2020, 4:48 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: New Bedrock Video
- Replies: 0
- Views: 304
New Bedrock Video
Morgan and Chris recently participated in the 67 Pall Mall video series. It was a light and enjoyable video, less detailed than their vintage release podcasts. https://youtu.be/SF2gMCz-8Io Morgan and Chris, it didn’t seem you were also trying the wines at the same time? Pity! I love tasting notes. W...
- September 9th, 2020, 1:27 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Latour 2009 released
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4381
- September 8th, 2020, 5:54 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: How good is the 2008 vintage in BURGUNDY
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4453
- September 6th, 2020, 7:54 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: How good is the 2008 vintage in BURGUNDY
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4453
Re: How good is the 2008 vintage in BURGUNDY
Honestly, the difference between ‘08 values to 18-20 high priced, new-era burgs leaves me confused and a bit sad. The new-era ripe wines might bother me even more than the prices.
- September 6th, 2020, 7:44 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: 2014 Mugneret-Gibourg Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Les Chaignots
- Replies: 67
- Views: 3526
Re: TN: 2014 Mugneret-Gibourg Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Les Chaignots
My most recent vintage is 98. I sadly drank the younger ones.
The sisters have been on a tear, and are legitimately seen as a top-tier producer.
The sisters have been on a tear, and are legitimately seen as a top-tier producer.
- September 6th, 2020, 11:43 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: How good is the 2008 vintage in BURGUNDY
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4453
Re: How good is the 2008 vintage in BURGUNDY
The one 08 disappointment for me in 08 continues to be Fourrier - just a really weird vintage for Jean Marie. Post 05 it's the one Fourrier vintage I don't like. I’m more concerned with Fourrier's 11’s. They seem to be aging very fast. Taste is good, but the colors are already quite brown. Overall ...
- September 4th, 2020, 11:49 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Reviews of reviewers
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1926
Re: Reviews of reviewers
I haven’t relied on a reviewer since Parker told me 2007 Rhones were the best vintage ever from anywhere. That said, I’m becoming a bit of a William Kelley fanboy. Hope he sticks around. I also like John Gilman and Jasper Morris's contributions to my favorite region. I mostly trust my palate at this...
- September 3rd, 2020, 10:25 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Red Corton Wines
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3857
Re: Red Corton Wines
Outside of DRC, it seems most good Cortons are priced about the same as good 1er crus. Seems about right to me.
- September 1st, 2020, 5:24 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Red Corton Wines
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3857
Re: Red Corton Wines
As part of his 67 Pall Mall series, Jasper Morris recently did a video on just this subject, which terroirs and makers to look for in Corton. Highly recommended.
https://www.67pallmall.com/virtual-events/
https://www.67pallmall.com/virtual-events/
- September 1st, 2020, 5:15 pm
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: TN: 2007 Michel Lafarge Volnay 1er Cru Clos des Chênes
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1038
Re: TN: 2007 Michel Lafarge Volnay 1er Cru Clos des Chênes
Better luck with the next bottle!
I think Lafarge is approachable faster than d’Angerville or de Montille, but still best drunk young or older, not in between.
I’d have bet the ‘07 would be ready, honestly.
I think Lafarge is approachable faster than d’Angerville or de Montille, but still best drunk young or older, not in between.
I’d have bet the ‘07 would be ready, honestly.
- August 29th, 2020, 11:55 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Your best Pandemic bottle consumed?
- Replies: 105
- Views: 5159
Re: Your best Pandemic bottle consumed?
We’ve drunk many excellent wines in the During. Certainly at a higher frequency than the Before. Tops was a recent 2009 Jouan Clos St Denis that has finally begun showing tertiary notes. Much better than the 2005. Jouans are not the screaming value they used to be (this bottle was 40 euros), but I s...
- August 25th, 2020, 11:29 am
- Forum: Wine Talk
- Topic: Favorite QPR wine under $25
- Replies: 70
- Views: 4854
Re: Favorite QPR wine under $25
Drouhin Pouilly-Vinzelles and Bedrock Ode to LuLu, judging by the multiple cases of both we crushed this summer.
Re: NSG Fans?
This whole conversation is throwing me a bit. NSG is the least uniform of any red appellation in the Côte d’Or. One should have completely different expectations from a vineyard in the north part near Vosne, versus thoe in the heart of NSG just south of the town, versus the flatter southern bit. The...