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Keep your tinder dry.

Help! I’m drowning in LuLu!

(So good)

Can’t delete, so umm, Happy birthday again Don!

Happy birthday Don!

You are in between my wife and me. Last weekend, for my birthday we opened a 2013 Jouan Clos Sorbe that was fantastic. My wife has tentative selected an SQN Raven.

Birthday rules: open whatever you want to!

Kevin Porter wrote: ↑
May 29th, 2020, 4:25 pm
“Missing, presumed drunk “

Soooo many of these.

Thanks William. A very interesting topic!

I love that you post so much here, in addition to whatever is behind the walled-garden. The enthusiasm you show here has to have a positive effect on subscriptions, even if that isn’t your goal.

billnanson wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2020, 12:23 am
Philippe had many successes in 2003 - he was well above the average...
It's still a bit of a baby, Brady, but the 99 GE is still singing...

Thanks, Bill. Tempting...

Great note. I still have a few 99’s left, but none so far have matched your experience. I’ll wait a few more years.

A Songeur wrote: ↑
May 20th, 2020, 12:25 pm
LOts of people already drinking 2017!... Is that right? Should I try?

You bet, buddy! Delicious young. I think it’ll age fine, too.

2017 Fourrier rouge 2017 Jouan rouge how'd you like the Jouan? Not who you asked, but I had it recently and it was delightful -- I posted a note on here a bit ago. I like the 17 Jouan more than the 16 Jouan, but less than the 17 Fourrier. I think it's a pretty good bourgogne that doesn’t hold a can...

2017 Fourrier rouge
2017 Jouan rouge

I posted the following excerpt to another thread, but it seems more appropriate here: I am nervous about 2011. Multiple examples from a few producers have come across as prematurely aged. They seem older than any other 21st century burgs, though I don’t have recent experience with ‘01, ‘03, or ‘04. ...

Friends, Underrateed: -Nuits : Daniel Bocquenet : i reported on him in another thread but got no reaction. Unfortunately he retired after the 2016 vintage but he used to make brilliant ECHEZEAUX and a villlage Nuits Saint Julien that was on par with most premier crus vintage after vintage. He was o...

Henri Jouan makes fantastic wines across the board and doesn’t seem to get much recognition. Gevrey Echezeaux, Chambolle AOC, Clos Sorbe and Clos Clos St Denis are all cellar worthy imo. Considering their tiny 3ha production, I think Jouan gets disproportionate coverage here. I just shut up and buy...

I guess Bachelet and Barthod have similar aging profiles. Great for our kids.

I am nervous about 2011. Multiple examples from a few producers have come across as prematurely aged. They seem older than any other 21st century burgs, though I don’t have recent experience with ‘01, ‘03, or ‘04. The two Fourrier PC’s we had were full of tertiary notes, and seemed fully mature. To ...

March 2015, no joy.

Everywhere the pattern seems to be that the kids make sloppier jammier sluttier [and likely vastly less ageworthy] wines than did their parents. not so sure of that. I think Erwan’s wines at Faiveley are far better and still ageworthy. Silky and less tannic but great depth and balance. I’m sure the...

(Cross-posted from UK Wine Pages) Stas, I read your report. I'm fine with identifying preferences, and making favorite lists is a pastime in many hobbies. But as a statistician, my problem is with your numbers. To put it simply, wine scores are garbage. And if you are basing your ratings on these sc...

Thank you Antoine and Jacob. Very good stuff.

Also welcome to the board, Jacob! I look forward to further contributions.

Scores mean nothing. Especially in Burgundy.

This region rejected Robert Parker, and his points system. Hell, they even sued him.

If you want points, you’ll do far better elsewhere. It’s just not what makes Burgundy interesting.

I love her wines, but haven’t found them at a reasonable price, outside of Beaune.

I just like the motivation for the thread!

Is it archived?

Thanks, Greg. No credit card required.

How long did it take before you received the confirmation email?

We’re drinking good stuff now.

We have more good stuff for later, but hell, smoke 'em if you got 'em.

I’ve just brought home aged bottles from Mugnier, Fourrier, Clos Saint Jean, SQN, and more from the off-site cellar. We bought these wines to drink, and the next few weeks look ideal.

Cheers to you all!

I got my best wine deals during the financial crisis in 2009-2010. Inertia is a bitch.

Honestly, I hope there are no great wine deals coming. That would probably require serious economic stress.

Just did a tasting of 8 pinots. 4 burgs and 4 Ca. All were 2015 that was supposed to be a good year for burgundy. The burgs were all premier cru and all rated 92-95 from WA or BH. They also cost on average twice the CA. I alternated odd and even. All were blind. Out of 18 people only two liked the ...

I think Rich's post is having the opposite of its intended effect. Oops.

I occasionally revive very old threads that I find particularly interesting. Recently, I did so with a Jayer thread.

Anyway, waves hi to my future self, when this thread is dredged in 2022.

I wouldn't bring glasses, either.

But I’d probably end up cleaning their glasses before pouring, which might be even ruder.

Seriously, I dislike drinking fine wine from musty glasses more than from small glasses.

Isn’t there a happy medium between truly making old bones and just looking for some tannin resolution and the wine knitting together? I don’t know about a happy medium, but saying that a wine that lasts ten years qualifies as aging well surprises me. Not falling apart at ten years is surviving. IMH...

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth- Mike Tyson Every passive investor has a buy and hold approach, until they suffer a 25% drawdown in one month. This approach has served me well for decades, including the tech crash and the financial crisis, both worse than your 25% scenario. ...

I’m waiting for the blood in the streets.

jnbrown wrote: ↑
February 28th, 2020, 8:27 pm

I am the worlds worst investor, what ever I do the market does the opposite.
So expect a further plunge.

Index - Buy - Hold - Rebalance

Aww. I loved Grape Radio in its day. And it has been missed for some time. The king is dead.

Thank goodness for Levi Dalton's I’ll Drink To That. Long live the king!

This Rion is one of the very few top rank producers to remain firmly under the radar, it seems to me. Tom. I trust my post won’t ruin the secret. What do you think of other Rion wines, say Daniel? [cheers.gif] Antoine, do you think Amoureuses is more of a solare vintage wine? Though I have some 9, ...

I asked because I wonder if the absentee bids were submitted before the market went into its slump. How many people would have retracted their bids this week? Many bids are submitted far ahead. But you can pull your bid until that lot is live. It’s easy. That said, I had to tell another guy about t...

Perhaps DRC is an alternative asset class. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I know at least one person who canceled HDH bids. He didn’t realize you could cancel until I told him. I suspect others made bids before this week's decline, and are just letting them ride.

Next month's burg auction will be more interesting.

I opened a few of these 9-10 years ago, and found them a bit course and out of balance. I mentally raised a fist at Frank Murray, whose note encouraged me to buy a case. Times have changed. Decanted and started to drink after an hour. Beautiful delicate light ruby, almost rose, ultra transparent. Ea...

Not put off by that, only by Francois thinking that you can only start drinking wines at 50+ years of age. If I had that kind of thinking I never would have gotten into wine in the first place because I still couldn't drink wines purchased in the 1980's. I don’t think he’s making that claim at all,...

A quick aside - For those who are put off by Francois’ use of the word “amateur,” think of it as lover, meaning one who is truly passionate about wine, in this context. It is it a level beyond mere appreciation, more akin to geekdom. The French do not mean this word in the pejorative way some Englis...

Agree 100%. Last year We drank one, and loved it so much I opened another a week later. This is probably just in my head, but I felt I was drinking Oakville, not some random mixed black blend. Fantastic.

Hi Mike, My wife often tells others that I trained her to like Burgundy, by giving her sample after sample until she got used the acidity. I think the same might be true for aged wines. In maybe 1998, we went to an old Italian restaurant, with the goal of opening a “really old” Nebbiolo. We told the...

I would imagine given a recession (which could be years off and not very deep) 2nd tier auction darlings might lower a bit as well but I really just don't see GC from even mid-range producers getting any cheaper. There were great deals to be had during and after the financial crisis. I bought well,...

This looks awesome too! I played with it for a few minutes and couldn’t find a key linking owner number to owner name. Tell me I was silly and overlooked the obvious. Thanks. Sadly there is no such thing. If you are a registered architect you can write in and find out, but the information has not b...

You can see the cadastral map here: https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/carte?c=4.954644255508424,47.177552612901906&z=18&l0=ORTHOIMAGERY.ORTHOPHOTOS::GEOPORTAIL:OGC:WMTS(1)&l1=CADASTRALPARCELS.PARCELS::GEOPORTAIL:OGC:WMTS(1)&permalink=yes This looks awesome too! I played with it for a few minutes and c...

I officially withdraw my “same as last bottle” pet peeve.

I also am a member at WWS and will agree it’s a great place to drink. I’d agree to meet there if that’s the consensus. But wouldn’t a nice dinner and Chambolle be better? Chambolle theme is just an example, I’m super flexible. If we do choose a theme others are short on, I’m sure we can arrange a bu...

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