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by Pat Burton
October 25th, 2020, 2:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2001 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese and more
Replies: 19
Views: 448

Re: TN: 2001 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese and more

I just drank a 2001 auslese gk that leaked during shipping. Sadly, that leakage resulted in oxidation. It was a bummer.
by Pat Burton
October 15th, 2020, 4:54 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help me buy ~200 bottles of Bordeaux to drink by 2024
Replies: 23
Views: 1742

Re: Help me buy ~200 bottles of Bordeaux to drink by 2024

For near term consumption, I'd look at the 2012 and 2014 vintages generally. Some wines from 2010 might also be open to drinking, but these would generally be unclassified growths. Some wines I'd consider: More Traditional Cantemerle, Potensac (consider 2010 also), Sociando, d'Issan, Château Chasse-...
by Pat Burton
October 12th, 2020, 5:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Why is bordeaux price dropping ?
Replies: 76
Views: 4080

Re: Why is bordeaux price dropping ?

... As a guess, I'd venture to say that at least half, if not more of the members of this board were not even born yet. That is a more sobering statistic to me [cry.gif] Not sure about this. Many here are in their 50s plus. There may be younger cohorts, but who has the larger cellars? Why is cellar...
by Pat Burton
October 1st, 2020, 5:17 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine pricing bubble? Thoughts?
Replies: 144
Views: 6563

Re: Wine pricing bubble? Thoughts?

Hence ignore.
by Pat Burton
October 1st, 2020, 5:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine pricing bubble? Thoughts?
Replies: 144
Views: 6563

Re: Wine pricing bubble? Thoughts?

John, you are not doing yourself any favors here. You look like an ass with your continued attacks. Let it go. Don't bother replying, I've blocked your posts and encourage everyone to do the same.
by Pat Burton
September 25th, 2020, 9:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Essential canon of mid-priced "value"
Replies: 49
Views: 2830

Re: Essential canon of mid-priced "value"

Very dated thread, but perhaps a place to start

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=99269
by Pat Burton
September 22nd, 2020, 5:29 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Giacomo Fenocchio Barolo
Replies: 50
Views: 2235

Re: Giacomo Fenocchio Barolo

I've had great experiences with Chambers. Any off bottle of old wine has been immediately refunded without request. Your experience with Chambers is confusing.
by Pat Burton
September 22nd, 2020, 8:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How did you start your wine collection/cellar?
Replies: 73
Views: 4063

Re: How did you start your wine collection/cellar?

I got interested in wine while in graduate school. I was drinking a cheap Chianti (1999 Sensi) by the case from my local shop. When the vintage ran out and they stocked the 2000, I didn't even like it. I couldn't wrap my head around the concept that a vintage could taste so different. Throughout gra...
by Pat Burton
September 10th, 2020, 7:45 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Importer of Joh Jos Prum. How to buy on release?
Replies: 37
Views: 2687

Re: Importer of Joh Jos Prum. How to buy on release?

Kahns has Prum most vintages but it sells out eventually. It doesn't fly off the shelf though.
by Pat Burton
September 7th, 2020, 8:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Top Cellar Holdings by Producer and Some Thoughts on how/why that's Changed
Replies: 101
Views: 6464

Re: Top Cellar Holdings by Producer and Some Thoughts on how/why that's Changed

I actually keep a fairly detailed spreadsheet for this type of analysis. Currently, 70% Red, 5% New world. Eight years ago it was 80% red and 40% new world. My Current top producers: R. López de Heredia 7.6% Joh. Jos. Prüm 7.2% Domaine Bernard Baudry 5.0% La Rioja Alta 4.7% Cappellano 3.6% Alain Hud...
by Pat Burton
September 3rd, 2020, 9:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: J J Prum: the last great wine house priced reasonably.
Replies: 179
Views: 8381

Re: J J Prum: the last great wine house priced reasonably.

I agree and not many fit the category of genre-defining yet reasonably priced. Some other possibilities though: Foillard, Lopez de Heredia, Huet, Baudry, and a smattering of other Germans and Austrians. Might be my taste but we just had the Lopez de Heredia 2007 Tondonia in our Zoom group. We reall...
by Pat Burton
September 1st, 2020, 8:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wines for cellar
Replies: 29
Views: 1396

Re: Wines for cellar

Over the years I have tries exploring different regions to understand what I like better. Bordeaux, burgundy, Piedmont, Loire, and Rioja were some of my early forays.
by Pat Burton
August 27th, 2020, 4:42 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: LastBottleWines.com (Last Bottle Wines) Deal Discussion Thread
Replies: 8069
Views: 547096

Re: LastBottleWines.com (Last Bottle Wines) Deal Discussion Thread

I've followed them from the start and have found good things in every marathon. The last one wasnt very compelling though and this one has held my attention even less. Maybe tomorrow...
by Pat Burton
August 18th, 2020, 4:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Looking at two new functions with software update (POLL)
Replies: 151
Views: 3449

Re: Looking at two new functions with software update (POLL)

But then someone has to come here actively to see what is in a forum here -- not just passively scan stuff put in front of them on facebook you can just directly link to a thread with a copy and paste now. Not sure how it's different other than making it a couple steps easier Instead of having to C...
by Pat Burton
August 17th, 2020, 8:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2007 Joh Jos Prum WS Auslese
Replies: 18
Views: 590

Re: TN: 2007 Joh Jos Prum WS Auslese

Nice note Gavin. I haven't tried the standard Auslese, but did open the first of my goldkapsels. I didn't take a detailed note but here's what I wrote: 2007 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel - Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer (12/28/2019) Amazing complexity of tropical and ripe ...
by Pat Burton
August 13th, 2020, 9:44 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: UV light to combat fungal diseases in vines
Replies: 1
Views: 184

Re: UV light to combat fungal diseases in vines

My concern here is that using uv light, which is a mutagen, on long lived vines would cause any number of mutations over time. I can see it for annual plants like strawberries but I think the longterm impact on vines would be severe if used with any regularity.
by Pat Burton
July 25th, 2020, 4:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A Bad Week of Bait & Switch (For Lack of a Better Phrase) by Retailers
Replies: 7
Views: 2799

Re: A Bad Week of Bait & Switch (For Lack of a Better Phrase) by Retailers

Every retailer knows what they have. Apparently you don't shop alot do you? You may need to adjust your expectations. It was 3 bad experiences in a row. But he's been seriously collecting wine for over a year and knows more about buying wine than you. I submit to you thread A: https://www.wineberse...
by Pat Burton
July 23rd, 2020, 11:39 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Storage
Replies: 13
Views: 653

Re: Storage

I downsized into a smaller house and ended up with a wine fridge in my bedroom, the guest bedroom, and my office.
by Pat Burton
July 11th, 2020, 11:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: "Elder-statesman" followup
Replies: 14
Views: 1187

Re: "Elder-statesman" followup

Although I'm not an elder statesman, another factor is your own circumstance. In an ideal world, I'd do what has already been said. However, for reasons including budget and storage space, I don't ever see myself having such a large amount of wine on hand. Instead, I expect I will continue to acquir...
by Pat Burton
July 3rd, 2020, 2:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Auction Of Chateau Margaux etc: proceeds to go to Jose Andres World food kitchen
Replies: 8
Views: 1214

Re: Auction Of Chateau Margaux etc to provide meals for Covid front line workers

Thanks for posting this Mark. It is especially helpful to know they're from your cellar.
by Pat Burton
July 3rd, 2020, 2:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Chateau Montelena Estate Cabernet question
Replies: 7
Views: 1152

Re: Chateau Montelena Estate Cabernet question

Maybe contact Montelena?
by Pat Burton
June 25th, 2020, 9:47 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What's your most consumed wine?
Replies: 54
Views: 2113

Re: What's your most consumed wine?

Sadly, my top two producers no longer exist: Zepaltas and Coleman Nicole
by Pat Burton
June 22nd, 2020, 5:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Court of Master Sommeliers, Americas pushback
Replies: 68
Views: 5592

Re: Court of Master Sommeliers, Americas pushback

Pat Burton wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 5:22 pm
I've always found that if I want people to listen to me, it helps to be a contributing member of said group first. 15 total posts.
by Pat Burton
June 22nd, 2020, 5:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Court of Master Sommeliers, Americas pushback
Replies: 68
Views: 5592

Re: Court of Master Sommeliers, Americas pushback

I've always found that if I want people to listen to me, it helps to be a contributing member of said group first.
by Pat Burton
June 21st, 2020, 5:41 pm
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: Ch.Petrus '70 hlf btl
Replies: 6
Views: 870

Re: Ch.Petrus '70 hlf btl

Agreed. What is the actual offer?
by Pat Burton
June 21st, 2020, 12:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: There is a mouse in the cellar...
Replies: 54
Views: 3354

Re: There is a mouse in the cellar...

Our young boy, too (just under a year old) caught a mouse in our apartment and just walked around a bunch with the critter in his mouth until dropping it on his Ripple Rug(tm, fantastic toy) so that it could run away and he could resume the game. Some cats are just more white-collar than others, I ...
by Pat Burton
June 21st, 2020, 11:48 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: age a bit more or drink?
Replies: 8
Views: 588

Re: age a bit more or drink?

I put together a list a while back. I haven't updated it in some time but not much has changed: https://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=106291 The traditional producers generally make wines that are more austere in their youth while the more modern style makes wines that are general...
by Pat Burton
June 21st, 2020, 11:09 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: age a bit more or drink?
Replies: 8
Views: 588

Re: age a bit more or drink?

I agree with the general comment on 96 barolo but fontanafreda is made in a more modern style. It would not surprise me if it was good to go.
by Pat Burton
June 21st, 2020, 9:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Father’s Day Wine Selections
Replies: 75
Views: 2414

Re: Father’s Day Wine Selections

I'm leaning towards 1974 Louis M. Martini Cabernet Sauvignon California Mountain
by Pat Burton
June 21st, 2020, 5:50 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ever boycott a winery?
Replies: 400
Views: 20440

Re: Ever boycott a winery?

Why are people boycotting Liquid Farm? Genuine Question - it’s the only one of the wineries I’ve bought from over here? There were allegations that liquid farm was violating the governor's orders and conducting tastings. The winemaker responded saying it was only family that had been spending time ...
by Pat Burton
June 20th, 2020, 2:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mother-in-Law Drops Ice Cubes in my Mouchey :(
Replies: 42
Views: 2740

Re: Mother-in-Law Drops Ice Cubes in my Mouchey :(

Wait, did she throw it in your glass too or just hers? That was my first thought too. I once had someone over who asked if she could put sugar in the wine I gave her. I was confused, so i opened a dessert wine for her. It was too sweet. Now i realize that once I've poured someone a glass of wine, i...
by Pat Burton
June 20th, 2020, 10:16 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: LastBottleWines.com (Last Bottle Wines) Deal Discussion Thread
Replies: 8069
Views: 547096

Re: LastBottleWines.com (Last Bottle Wines) Deal Discussion Thread

Vince L. wrote:
June 14th, 2020, 7:15 pm
Has anyone actually gotten the $50 for getting the last bottle.
I have. You can actually tell if they have less than 36 bottles remaining by putting the max in your cart. If it autocorrects to a lower number, that is what they have left.
by Pat Burton
June 20th, 2020, 6:03 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The 2019 Bordeaux are coming out.
Replies: 1021
Views: 63445

Re: The 2019 Bordeaux are coming out.

Keith, Wow, that's quite an unasked for lecture. You've made a lot of assumptions about the people on this thread and what they're trying to learn (and spend). Not everyone can drop $1000 on 2016 bordeaux to waste just to find out what 2019s they might like. If I did that, I'd have little leftover ...
by Pat Burton
June 19th, 2020, 3:31 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The 2019 Bordeaux are coming out.
Replies: 1021
Views: 63445

Re: The 2019 Bordeaux are coming out.

For all the younger folk obsessively comparing the points from the dozen or so publications trying to fill Parker's shoes: don't waste your time. Bordeaux really isn't that complicated. The hierarchy doesn't change much from year to year. The list of the best 2019s is going to look a lot like the l...
by Pat Burton
June 18th, 2020, 6:32 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Most disappointing 'great' wine you've ever had?
Replies: 164
Views: 5849

Re: Most disappointing 'great' wine you've ever had?

Honestly, no one mentions this but the elevation of alcohol through evaporation in dry, above ground, air conditioned facilities is probably a bigger impact(as much as .5 degrees of alcohol every 6 months). I've never understood this, though I accept that it is true. Ethanol has a much higher evapo...
by Pat Burton
June 18th, 2020, 5:25 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Most disappointing 'great' wine you've ever had?
Replies: 164
Views: 5849

Re: Most disappointing 'great' wine you've ever had?

Honestly, no one mentions this but the elevation of alcohol through evaporation in dry, above ground, air conditioned facilities is probably a bigger impact(as much as .5 degrees of alcohol every 6 months). I've never understood this, though I accept that it is true. Ethanol has a much higher evapo...
by Pat Burton
June 17th, 2020, 1:53 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ever boycott a winery?
Replies: 400
Views: 20440

Re: Ever boycott a winery?

I'm with you on that Scott. Anyway, this forum is full of pussies compared to some of my bike related forums! [snort.gif] - ridiculous keyboard warriors fighting over everything from wives to custom build artistic integrity! [pillow-fight.gif] Was entertaining, hilarious and great fun at times but,...
by Pat Burton
June 17th, 2020, 1:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Your German riesling breakdown
Replies: 73
Views: 2531

Re: Your German riesling breakdown

Kab: 28% Spat: 26% Aus: 41% TBA/Eiswein: 3% This breakdown is skewed towards Auslese because I age them the longest. I love the sweet ones, but strongly prefer them with age. Of course, I age the Spatlese and Kabinett wines as well, but for less time (vintage and producer variations not withstanding).
by Pat Burton
June 17th, 2020, 12:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ever boycott a winery?
Replies: 400
Views: 20440

Re: Ever boycott a winery?

...I’ll go find another board to discuss wine. ... Good luck with that. Only a couple out there. Okay, maybe I went a bit too far there! [wink.gif] Seriously, I'm not complaining about what's been posted. I'm complaining about which forum the thread is located. Wine Talk is my little oasis to escap...
by Pat Burton
June 17th, 2020, 12:54 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ever boycott a winery?
Replies: 400
Views: 20440

Re: Ever boycott a winery?

Good luck with that. Only a couple out there. Okay, maybe I went a bit too far there! [wink.gif] Seriously, I'm not complaining about what's been posted. I'm complaining about which forum the thread is located. Wine Talk is my little oasis to escape politics and name calling every now and then. I'm...
by Pat Burton
June 16th, 2020, 4:50 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Ever boycott a winery?
Replies: 400
Views: 20440

Re: Ever boycott a winery?

I was going to, but I deleted it and can't find it in any email trash cans. I don't think you are going to be surprised. Without reading the email I can't say for certain, but if you are choosing to stop supporting a business because of their support of the BLM movement, well, that's an interesting...
by Pat Burton
June 6th, 2020, 2:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2016 Barolo Vintage - How Is It Looking?
Replies: 43
Views: 5353

Re: 2016 Barolo Vintage - How Is It Looking?

Yes, vietti pricing has really sky rocketed here.
by Pat Burton
June 5th, 2020, 4:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Diamond Creek Offer - Only the rich need apply
Replies: 97
Views: 7649

Re: Diamond Creek Offer - Only the rich need apply

Richard Albert wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 5:04 pm
Al shocked his contempories in the 70s with bold new high pricing, his 1972 was $12.50, pricey at the time.
He may have been first at $25 price point as well, IIRC.
It is my recollection that the 1987s were the first Napa wines offered at $100.
by Pat Burton
June 5th, 2020, 4:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Most bottles of a single wine from one vintage in your cellar
Replies: 241
Views: 11579

Re: Most bottles of a single wine from one vintage in your cellar

I don't buy individual wines in quantity very often, and even when I do, quantity means something different to me than to those who've already posted. +1. Rarely have I bought even half a case. 2014 Juge Cornas was the exception for me at a couple cases. I do have a case of 2007 R. López de Heredia...
by Pat Burton
June 4th, 2020, 5:19 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Most bottles of a single wine from one vintage in your cellar
Replies: 241
Views: 11579

Re: Most bottles of a single wine from one vintage in your cellar

If I may ask those people who buy a case or more of a single bottle and vintage: 1. How big is your total collection? 2. What percentage of your total collection is made up of 6-12+ bottle quantities of a single wine from one vintage (not a single wine across multiple vintages)? 3. Did you try befo...
by Pat Burton
June 3rd, 2020, 12:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Rioja 2001 - Check in
Replies: 20
Views: 1341

Re: Rioja 2001 - Check in

Andrew Ing wrote:
June 1st, 2020, 12:01 pm
I just got a case of 01 Tondonia at auction. Eager to give it go after it sits for a few months.
I liked this wine in 2012, though it was quite young still. A more recent bottle (maybe three years ago) was pretty shut down.
by Pat Burton
June 3rd, 2020, 6:49 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Most bottles of a single wine from one vintage in your cellar
Replies: 241
Views: 11579

Re: Most bottles of a single wine from one vintage in your cellar

I don't buy individual wines in quantity very often, and even when I do, quantity means something different to me than to those who've already posted. I do have a case of 2007 R. López de Heredia Rioja Viña Tondonia.
by Pat Burton
May 5th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional vs. Modern Barolo / Barbaresco
Replies: 404
Views: 92430

Re: Traditional vs. Modern Barolo / Barbaresco

Sh@n A wrote:
May 5th, 2020, 2:09 pm
Andrew A r n t f i e l d wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 6:50 am
Not sure about their maceration times, though.
What makes a maceration time traditional vs. modern? Are some traditional producers known for longer maceration times (e.g. Roagna)?
I believe I used a two week cutoff. Traditional producers easily hit that mark.
by Pat Burton
May 5th, 2020, 3:03 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Today's Game: UPS vs The Mrs.
Replies: 63
Views: 3085

Re: Today's Game: UPS vs The Mrs.

Patrick T a y l o r wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 6:40 pm
Pat Burton wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 6:11 pm
I hope so, since many of those shipments come to her office. champagne.gif
I should have been addressing these to you all along! :)
That's risky...

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