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by Pat Burton
January 16th, 2020, 11:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How much wine did you consume in 2019?
Replies: 46
Views: 1803

Re: How much wine did you consume in 2019?

Peter Shurman wrote:
January 16th, 2020, 8:20 am
with a little help from my friends ... family ... and of course, my wife ... 442

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Wow, nice work Pete. I'm at almost exactly half that.
by Pat Burton
December 10th, 2019, 5:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?
Replies: 247
Views: 4931

Re: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?

B02CA874-4814-4726-98A4-C058F618544A.jpeg Nobody will guess this one. Not even Keith. Yea, that’s a challenge. Jayson might. And yes it is a real wine, I have about a case. Hint, it’s cheap. Damn good too. Another hint, this is the center-piece of the label, not a minor section. I redacted the name...
by Pat Burton
December 10th, 2019, 5:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?
Replies: 247
Views: 4931

Re: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?

B02CA874-4814-4726-98A4-C058F618544A.jpeg Nobody will guess this one. Not even Keith. Yea, that’s a challenge. Jayson might. And yes it is a real wine, I have about a case. Hint, it’s cheap. Damn good too. Another hint, this is the center-piece of the label, not a minor section. I redacted the name...
by Pat Burton
December 10th, 2019, 4:40 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What does "pure" mean?
Replies: 47
Views: 1615

Re: What does "pure" mean?

I understand "pure" as fruit unmasked by oak, mlf, etc Are you saying that some wines come with milfs? [wow.gif] What brands? A dishy Blonde? I'd like to "put wood to" (thanks, Anton) a milf that came with my wine! What a smashing idea! This is a better combination than medicated bandaids. [cheers....
by Pat Burton
December 7th, 2019, 6:57 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: BerserkerDay 11 is coming up!! (Jan 27, 2020)
Replies: 228
Views: 19536

Re: BerserkerDay 11 is coming up!! (Jan 27, 2020)

Karen Troisi wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 9:23 am
Date circled on the calendar (and already thinking about what we might offer).
Yay!!
by Pat Burton
December 5th, 2019, 8:11 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 2055

Re: Floral barolo recs

I’m pretty sure the 15 Barolos are out already. I know I’ve had the 15 Cavallotto here. I’m also very curious to see how the 12s develop. I think I have a bit more faith in that vintage than some others. Agree on 2012. I think the wines are approachable early, but not so much this early for my pala...
by Pat Burton
December 4th, 2019, 9:00 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Report of our class trip to Napa/Sonoma
Replies: 8
Views: 835

Re: Report of our class trip to Napa/Sonoma

I was remiss in not mentioning a couple of items regarding the planning phase of this trip. First, I shout out to Karen at Jean Edwards for hosting my colleague and I during our planning phase this summer. Jean Edwards makes some really high end wines, and I loved the Stagecoach cabs in particular a...
by Pat Burton
December 3rd, 2019, 5:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Report of our class trip to Napa/Sonoma
Replies: 8
Views: 835

Re: Report of our class trip to Napa/Sonoma

Peter Shurman wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 4:46 pm
good stuff Pat, thanks for sharing your trip and thoughts ... [cheers.gif]
Thanks Pete!
by Pat Burton
December 3rd, 2019, 5:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Report of our class trip to Napa/Sonoma
Replies: 8
Views: 835

Re: Report of our class trip to Napa/Sonoma

Thanks, Pat! Is there a class project? Yes, the students have a few separate projects. Keep in mind we are an undergraduate college so this class isn't part of a larger wine program. The students are presenting research posters on their individual research into basic wine chemistry questions Thursd...
by Pat Burton
December 3rd, 2019, 12:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Report of our class trip to Napa/Sonoma
Replies: 8
Views: 835

Report of our class trip to Napa/Sonoma

A colleague and friend of mine offered a Chemistry of Wine course at our small liberal arts college in Indiana this semester. This course included an ‘immersive learning experience’ in which they traveled to Napa and Sonoma for a week. I have been lucky to sit in on the class and to attend the trip....
by Pat Burton
December 3rd, 2019, 12:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 2055

Re: Floral barolo recs

Cristian Dezso wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 12:02 pm
Pat Burton wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 11:29 am
John Morris wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 7:10 am


Yes, that's the rosé clone. It's rare, but Cogno's Vigna Elena is 100% nebbiolo rosé.
I believe Cappellano's Pie Franco is also the Rose clone.
It is Michet!
Ah yes, my mistake.
by Pat Burton
December 3rd, 2019, 11:29 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Floral barolo recs
Replies: 45
Views: 2055

Re: Floral barolo recs

There is a specific nebbiolo grape (sub-variety?) which is meant to give more floral wines. I can't remember the exact grape name but recall Ian d'Agata talking about it being mostly removed from the vineyards, but historically being more prevalent - IIRC the grape was Nebbiolo Rosé and some produc...
by Pat Burton
November 25th, 2019, 7:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional vs. Modern Barolo / Barbaresco
Replies: 395
Views: 75890

Re: Traditional vs. Modern Barolo / Barbaresco

Thanks Andrew. I'll take a look when I get back. I'm in Napa right now.
by Pat Burton
November 24th, 2019, 8:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Traditional vs. Modern Barolo / Barbaresco
Replies: 395
Views: 75890

Re: Traditional vs. Modern Barolo / Barbaresco

Thanks for the bump Brady. I have another sabbatical this Spring semester so I will try to update the OP in the coming months.
by Pat Burton
November 20th, 2019, 4:14 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: WOTYs--2019 Edition--TABULATIONS COMPLETE (OP)
Replies: 193
Views: 14788

Re: WOTYs--2019 Edition--and your Discovery of the Year

I wish I could take credit, but that bottle was shared by a generous friend.
by Pat Burton
November 20th, 2019, 12:00 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: WOTYs--2019 Edition--TABULATIONS COMPLETE (OP)
Replies: 193
Views: 14788

Re: WOTYs--2019 Edition--and your Discovery of the Year

1975 R. López de Heredia Rioja Crianza 6º Año Viña Tondonia 1996 Château Cos d'Estournel 2003 Château d'Yquem 2002 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer-Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel Auction 1991 Zind-Humbrecht Tokay Pinot Gris Clos Windsbuhl Vendange Tardive 2007 Melusine Grüner Veltliner Lyra 200...
by Pat Burton
November 20th, 2019, 11:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Château Meyney - Saint Estèphe - 2003
Replies: 6
Views: 512

Re: Château Meyney - Saint Estèphe - 2003

It is my impression that Meyney has shifted to a more modern style relatively recently. Is that incorrect?
by Pat Burton
October 29th, 2019, 9:15 am
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: Looking for people interested in getting paid for hosting wine tastings via video chat
Replies: 15
Views: 960

Re: Looking for people interested in getting paid for hosting wine tastings via video chat

A question I have is what type of wine do you have in mind? Are you trying to get people to try 'high end' wine or mass produced wine or something else?
by Pat Burton
August 29th, 2019, 6:04 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2007 R. López de Heredia Rioja Reserva Viña Bosconia
Replies: 3
Views: 850

Re: TN: 2007 R. López de Heredia Rioja Reserva Viña Bosconia

Thanks for the note. I live LdH and just grabbed this and the 07 Tondonia.
by Pat Burton
July 8th, 2019, 6:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help needed: Napa/Sonoma trip with a twist
Replies: 16
Views: 1446

Re: Help needed: Napa/Sonoma trip with a twist

Thanks so much to everyone who has offered suggestions. I'm in the process of following up on these leads. Please don't hesitate if you have more suggestions.
by Pat Burton
July 3rd, 2019, 5:58 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help needed: Napa/Sonoma trip with a twist
Replies: 16
Views: 1446

Re: Help needed: Napa/Sonoma trip with a twist

Paul Miller wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 2:06 pm
Any alumni in the business out there?
Yes, I've reached out to those I know. Thanks for the suggestion.
by Pat Burton
July 3rd, 2019, 5:55 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help needed: Napa/Sonoma trip with a twist
Replies: 16
Views: 1446

Re: Help needed: Napa/Sonoma trip with a twist

Pat - when is the fall visit with the students? Might be a challenging time for winemakers to devote much time during harvest. Some of the bigger wineries might be better candidates as they have more hands on deck during harvest. The visit in the Fall will be in November, just before Thanksgiving.
by Pat Burton
July 2nd, 2019, 7:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Help needed: Napa/Sonoma trip with a twist
Replies: 16
Views: 1446

Help needed: Napa/Sonoma trip with a twist

Greetings all, I will be assisting a colleague in teaching a course on the chemistry of wine in the fall. As part of the course, we will travel to the Napa/Sonoma area for several days to do some hands on learning. The course will have about eight students and two faculty. In preparation for this tr...
by Pat Burton
February 10th, 2019, 2:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Last 10 wines you drank. Tells us something about what you like.
Replies: 192
Views: 10342

Re: Last 10 wines you drank. Tells us something about what you like.

1995 Perrier Jouet Belle Epoque 2015 Marquis Koshu Dry (from Japan!) 2017 Pascal Cotat Mont Damnes Sancerre 2009 Collier Saumur Blanc 2016 Gonon St J 2015 Dominus 2015 Dominus Napanook 2015 Pichon Baron MV Clicquot Extra Brut Extra Old 2012 Robert Craig Howell Mountain 2008 Thierry Allemand Cornas ...
by Pat Burton
February 10th, 2019, 12:46 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Last 10 wines you drank. Tells us something about what you like.
Replies: 192
Views: 10342

Re: Last 10 wines you drank. Tells us something about what you like.

2009 Château Lanessan 2002 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer-Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel Auction 1998 Château Gloria 2013 Gérard Boulay Sancerre Monts Damnés 2008 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot 1975 R. López de Heredia Rioja Crianza 6º Año Viña Tondonia 1985 Marqués de Riscal Rioja Crianza ...
by Pat Burton
February 6th, 2019, 7:18 pm
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: Dom Perignon 2008 - FINALLY here! NEW PRICING
Replies: 7
Views: 1366

Re: Dom Perignon 2008 - FINALLY here! NEW PRICING

I've had great interactions with Tom. Most recently he credited me back for the bottles of Dom I bought after he lowered the price. Buy with confidence.
by Pat Burton
January 21st, 2019, 4:26 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Shipping wine
Replies: 22
Views: 879

Re: Shipping wine

Jason T wrote:
January 21st, 2019, 3:30 pm
I don’t think FedEx (or UPS) will allow you to ship your own wine unless you are licensed for it.
yes, impossible to overcome... [scratch.gif]
by Pat Burton
January 17th, 2019, 7:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: How did your tastes in wine change?
Replies: 30
Views: 1369

Re: How did your tastes in wine change?

I actually started keeping a cellar history breakdown in 2012 that I update every six months to keep track of the 'balance' in my cellar. In 2012, my collection was 80% red, and 39% of all wine was from the US. Today, I'm at 63% red and only 6.5% of my collection is from the US. The main areas of gr...
by Pat Burton
January 16th, 2019, 6:28 am
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: FS Cappellano: gone
Replies: 1
Views: 294

Re: FS Cappellano: 05, 10 Rupestris, 12 Franco REDUCED

Bump for reduction
by Pat Burton
January 15th, 2019, 7:35 am
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: FS Cappellano: gone
Replies: 1
Views: 294

FS Cappellano: gone

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by Pat Burton
January 14th, 2019, 1:16 pm
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: FS: 3 x 2006 Château Calon-Ségur
Replies: 2
Views: 459

Re: FS: 3 x 2006 Château Calon-Ségur

bump for final reduction
by Pat Burton
January 10th, 2019, 9:59 am
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: FS: 6 x 2014 Zepaltas Chardonnay Babushka Keefer Ranch REDUCED X2
Replies: 3
Views: 377

FS: 6 x 2014 Zepaltas Chardonnay Babushka Keefer Ranch REDUCED X2

I love this wine, but simply bought too much. I'm offering 6 x 2014 Zepaltas Chardonnay Babushka Keefer Ranch at $125, which is below my original cost. PM with interest. Thanks for looking.
by Pat Burton
January 7th, 2019, 4:00 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Accessible Barolo Vintages
Replies: 90
Views: 5348

Re: Accessible Barolo Vintages

Lots of good comments above. It does vary depending on your personal preference. Here's my take on recent vintages: 2014 - Needs time - mixed results - some great wines, some producers faced massive loss (e.g. 70% at Rinaldi) which appears to have affected quality. Some (e.g. Brovia) blended their ...
by Pat Burton
January 7th, 2019, 3:08 pm
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: FS: 3 x 2013 Viader Proprietary Red REDUCED
Replies: 3
Views: 463

Re: FS: 3 x 2013 Viader Proprietary Red REDUCED

final reduction before I send these off to a retailer.
by Pat Burton
January 6th, 2019, 4:53 am
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: FS: Geyserville SOLD
Replies: 2
Views: 508

Re: FS: Geyserville REDUCED

first and only reduction
by Pat Burton
January 4th, 2019, 11:41 am
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: FS: Geyserville SOLD
Replies: 2
Views: 508

FS: Geyserville SOLD

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by Pat Burton
January 3rd, 2019, 5:54 pm
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: FS: 3 x 2013 Viader Proprietary Red REDUCED
Replies: 3
Views: 463

FS: 3 x 2013 Viader Proprietary Red REDUCED

$270 for the three pack. Shipping cost, risk, and paypal fees are buyers responsibility. PM with interest. Thanks for looking.
by Pat Burton
January 3rd, 2019, 5:52 pm
Forum: Commerce Corner - Wine Classifieds
Topic: FS: 3 x 2006 Château Calon-Ségur
Replies: 2
Views: 459

FS: 3 x 2006 Château Calon-Ségur

$210 for the three pack. Shipping cost, risk, and paypal fees are buyer's responsibility. PM with interest. Thanks for looking.
by Pat Burton
January 1st, 2019, 6:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Now that 2018 is over: your wine of the year
Replies: 189
Views: 8042

Re: Now that 2018 is over: your wine of the year

1990 Joh. Jos. Prüm Bernkasteler Johannisbrünnchen Riesling Eiswein Lange Goldkapsel Auction
by Pat Burton
January 1st, 2019, 12:35 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Favorite Producer
Replies: 132
Views: 7190

Re: Favorite Producer

Cappellano
Prum
by Pat Burton
December 14th, 2018, 11:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Another Stupid Storage Question - Room Temperature
Replies: 48
Views: 1678

Re: Another Stupid Storage Question - Room Temperature

I've kept wines at room temp in my house for three years without any noticeable effect (never done a side-by-side though).
by Pat Burton
December 14th, 2018, 10:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is "Never drink a Bordeaux that is less than 20 years old" just a silly idea.
Replies: 57
Views: 3762

Re: Is "Never drink a Bordeaux that is less than 20 years old" just a silly idea.

I'd love to hear more on the 89 Meyney. From memory only ´cause I don´t have my notes on hand: Last September, fully mature but still strong (from my cool cellar), light bricking rim, dark center, very typical St.Estephe, masculine, ripe Cabernet fruit, soft mature textures still with a nice bite, ...
by Pat Burton
December 14th, 2018, 8:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is "Never drink a Bordeaux that is less than 20 years old" just a silly idea.
Replies: 57
Views: 3762

Re: Is "Never drink a Bordeaux that is less than 20 years old" just a silly idea.

Simply it depends! There are a lot of minor Cru Bourgeois that are fine (in a good vintage) between 10 and 15 years ... not likely to get better afterwards ... but others - I just name Sociando-Mallet, Potensac, Phelan-Segur, Chasse-Spleen, Meney, Poujeaux ... - that are still excellent after 25+ y...

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