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Vidal Blanc has only one purpose in the wine universe as far as I can tell. It makes a quite nice late harvest or icewine. Vinified dry on its own it is a nondescript white wine.

I have wondered how much of this traffic is being driven by a handful of individuals, or buying syndicates, with relatively bottomless resources. At some point, I have got to believe soon, the prices of DRC are going to hit a hard celling. These ain't Van Goughs, they make more every year. Speculati...

I would not touch these wines. Blood money.

A couple that I recommend sampling are Domaine de la Cote and Ceritas. Domaine de la Cote is masterminded by Rajat Parr, former Somm. at RN74 in San Francisco. He's trying to make a US version of Burgundy in the Santa Rita Hills. Rhys is the obvious one, and you are already on to those wines. I'm a...

I am 82 years old. I have been drinking California pinot for over 50 years. The BV and Martin Ray were very good, the HMR very good. The first great pinot made in California was William Selyem. This is the correct answer. They have yet to be surpassed in my opinion. I've been fortunate to taste som...

Mike S. wrote: ↑February 15th, 2021, 11:15 pm I am 82 years old. I have been drinking California pinot for over 50 years. The BV and Martin Ray were very good, the HMR very good. The first great pinot made in California was William Selyem.

This is the correct answer. They have yet to be surpassed in my opinion.

From the Jerry McGuire memo... Maybe the problem is that we just need fewer, and better, tasting notes on wines that critics really love, or at least like, and edit out the rest. I get the feeling that the desire to massively inventory hundreds of wines in an area and zip through them is an exercise...

I know which wine I would rather drink. And amazingly, it did not come with a point score. So much for the 100 point system. Maybe we just need to insist on better tasting notes?

Correct, but William did not specify a %, just a number increase at year five. My bet would be $316.00 in two years....

Want to bet a bottle of 2019 Clos des Chênes? With you Mr Kelley, you are on. What are the terms? Okay, let's say that the 2018 Clos des Chênes, which is currently trading for around 220 USD per bottle, will have hit 450 USD per bottle on the market (from more than one source) within five years of ...

William Kelley wrote: ↑February 10th, 2021, 7:53 am
Dennis Borczon wrote: ↑February 10th, 2021, 7:52 am
William Kelley wrote: ↑February 10th, 2021, 6:03 am

I think five years from now, if current market trends continue, you will be glad you bought them when you did.
If...
Want to bet a bottle of 2019 Clos des Chênes?

With you Mr Kelley, you are on. What are the terms?

They really realized all the potential of 2018 while avoiding its excesses. 2019s are a touch finer boned, and they were singing when I visited - perfumed, dynamic, complete. I rated 2019 a touch higher, whereas for example I see that Neal Martin rated 2018 higher. I will be buying both vintages fo...

Concur with above. Before the wine shipping laws loosened up I routinely sent wines there. They were very responsive. Excellent facility that is, as in the name, kept at 55degrees

Arv R wrote: ↑February 4th, 2021, 12:44 pm I've only had Leroy Bourgogne rouge a few times, but wow did I think those were great.

I watched some interview with the lady who makes it later.

She seemed crazy to me.

Her bourgogne Blanc is also pretty damn good. Especially if you like you Chardonnay with minimal makeup

What a topic! I am of the opinion that scores used to be quite helpful. Back in the early days of Parker there was a quick and impactful way of saying to producers "you can do better". Parker was able to go into a region, and with of course his personal tasting lens, say that one producer ...

Chris Seiber wrote: ↑February 1st, 2021, 10:44 pm

I might have trouble shopping at this store.

Is this store run by the ass man?

Have the numbers outlived their usefulness? These days I am far more interested in a critic reviewing, in depth, fewer wines and producers that they seem exceptional or especially interesting. They can then give an appropriate "value rating" based on quality, ageability, cost. Jasper Morri...

Hmm. I’d be curious if William has stroked a 100 points on a wine. I think he has for Madeira, but I would let him verify. I just looked and I see I've given 31 since I joined TWA in late 2017! About one third of those have been mature wines. I also gave a few when I was at Decanter , including to ...

I too got hooked initially on WS pinots in the old days (Burt and Ed and the batcave) but I never quite found another Sonoma Pinot that quite captured their magic. Rochioli is close, but just a touch too ripe and "clean" for me to really say, eureka! Rhys has come close to that elusive mag...

correction Bertheau 2016

I know it is a very small sample size, but I am a tad surprised that 2015 is higher than 2016 in terms of votes. 2016 is such a small vintage that did not get a ton of buzz because of the frost, etc., at the beginning of the year. I wonder if a lot of people ignored the vintage because it was hard ...

They are getting awfully close to typical auction hammer prices. That is the ceiling for mailing lists. Going too close to that is the third rail of direct sales.

Terrific as always. Perhaps the rise of the swimming pool can be also correlated with climare change! Gets darn hot these days in the Cote'Or!

No one actually sleeps better after alcohol, if we're talking about true sleep quality - all the healing, resetting, restorative, memory etc. processes that happen during quality sleep are impacted or reduced by alcohol. Even the mechanism by which sleep is achieved is different after drinking, jus...

Shocked no one mentioned Guyon...

Calm down everyone. Most recent release price is about $1,050.00 per 750. $2600.00 per unit is not $100 over list price. Morell is hardly giving it away...

Obviously no mention of smoke issues. Curious if the release will discuss this in terms of the vintage year. Roy Piper has the best information about this in the public domaine

David Glasser wrote: ↑January 12th, 2021, 10:25 pm What did they charge for shipping?

Probably less than FedEx from most wineries on the west coast

I just drank the 15 that I got from Rob out of curiosity. It clearly is not the explosive style description of the 17. However it is quite young and there is a lot of structure with iron and more savory notes in the background. I coravined it down to 1/3 of a bottle and plan to pull the cork this we...

David Baum wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 2:32 pm Im in a wine shop

The "no off vintages" idea is especially true for Napa. The "off" vintages now are the ones that produce wines that are too ripe and over the top... Have a number of 1999 Napa wines that were considered too lean and green that are absolutely on point beautiful, if the producer wa...

Suppose Jadot also...

Unfortunate. They were a large house that kept prices in the sensible range. Guess that leaves Drouhin and Faiveley as the relatively large/ good QPR producers.

If Beaux Monts and Brulees are the LESSER 1er Crus ... which are the better? [scratch.gif]. Malconsorts, Cros Parantoux, until recently La Grand Rue... (btw: "recently" was 30 years ago ...) I agree with Cros Parantoux, but Malconsorts is imho not superior to Beaumonts nor to Brulees ... ...

Robert Sand wrote: ↑December 26th, 2020, 7:14 am
Dennis Borczon wrote: ↑December 26th, 2020, 4:56 am Sorry, for that kind of coin you can get some of the lesser Leroy Vosne 1ers like Les Beaux Monts or Brulees. Probably a better bet.
If Beaux Monts and Brulees are the LESSER 1er Crus ... which are the better? .

Malconsorts, Cros Parantoux, until recently La Grand Rue...

Once again, a quite interesting video. Makes you wonder why other producers have not tried the same methods? With the prices she gets for her wines, the incentive seems to be there...growing a canopy out seems a fairly low cost change in vineyard management, given the big picture. We are not talking...

Bill Sweeney wrote: ↑December 26th, 2020, 4:58 am Is that price for a case? Seems insane for a single bottle.

Pretty sure this is per bottle. Leroy exists in it's own universe of pricing. Basically DRC prices without the meticulous excellence maintained by HDV. She seems to have a personal mystique about her wines akin to Jayer. Insane $$$

Sorry, for that kind of coin you can get some of the lesser Leroy Vosne 1ers like Les Beaux Monts or Brulees. Probably a better bet.

unless they are really cheap, hard pass. First bottle looks like water damage. This ain't from the 1940s. Why wrap cellophane around the other labels? Unless you may be trying to disguise some defect?

Can someone give me a guide on how to read Roses de Jeanne vintages? I am just a tad confused as I saw a bottle of 2019 Roses de Jeanne / Cedric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs Cote de Val Vilaine but when I checked its Celllartacker entry it is actually V17 (2017 vintage). Not sure how retailers...

@ Kevin Sidders “VinConnect customers are the most knowledgeable and passionate about their wines”. What evidence do you have to support this? Not Kevin, but I interpreted the sentence you semi-quoted as referring to wineries direct-to-consumer mailing lists not his company’s customer base. Meaning...

Rob Panzer, on our board, carries one of the best producers. He is in Delaware...

For example, if someone is interested in a wine that they can get locally at retail for $40, if that same wine costs $40 (or more) at the winery plus significant shipping costs, then it gets financially impractical for that consumer to want to purchase it directly from the winery. In the Minneapoli...

I found it interesting that one of the empty bottles on the shelf behind William Kelly on a recent podcast was a Thomas pinot. Never had this producer on the radar before now. Suppose that is pretty good publicity. Would be interested to try out....sounds old world, sham about the 2020s

That's what cheap wine is for...

FYI, I recently had 5 cases of wine shipped from France to UK for 48€. The ridiculous US shipping costs are another byproduct of the Prohibition Mafia regime. That is pretty cheap considering the VAT is 8€ alone. Also, you have to remember, the distance from Paris to London is like Indianapolis to ...

Good question, but I live at the other end of the state, Lake Erie Lakeshore, which at times is basically like the North Pole. I have done experiments where I have left a bottle of cheap wine, in my backyard, in a Styrofoam shipper for days with nary an ice crystal in it. With any kind of decent shi...

If you want to go deep down the rabbit hole, The World of Fine Wines is about the most geeky and in depth publication out there. It is sort of like Architectural Digest for wine lovers. You have to get past the ads for diahmonnnnds and Jag-u-rrrr-s, but the opinion and thought pieces there are first...

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You certainly made a big investment in a wine you are unsure about! Why not pop a couple of those bottles now to find out how you like them yourself? Not something that I generally do at this stage of the game but I must admit being caught up in a combination of the hype, widespread availability, a...

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