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by Roy Piper
September 16th, 2019, 6:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Napa Cabernet Harvest
Replies: 16
Views: 1052

Re: Napa Cabernet Harvest

Brix to me is running ahead of flavor. I am 2-3 weeks out for my first pick. No one has picked Cab yet because there is no reason to. We had 0.1 inches today. Next ten days is 77-95F. Pretty much in the catbird seat. Berries smaller than last year. Tonnage is average to average-plus. Could be a top ...
by Roy Piper
September 16th, 2019, 6:03 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A visit to Hooker House, Bedrock Wine Co. raises the bar.
Replies: 8
Views: 815

Re: A visit to Hooker House, Bedrock Wine Co. raises the bar.

I’ve sent a few of my buyers there. Excellent staff there and they pour a bunch of wines. Great location.
by Roy Piper
September 11th, 2019, 4:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Fear And Loathing In ToKalon Vineyard
Replies: 55
Views: 3976

Re: Fear And Loathing In ToKalon Vineyard

Constellation now owns The Prisoner too. And they own Franciscan, who occupied it previously.
by Roy Piper
September 11th, 2019, 3:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Fear And Loathing In ToKalon Vineyard
Replies: 55
Views: 3976

Re: Fear And Loathing In ToKalon Vineyard

Alan, I think it is important for several reasons... 1. It could lead to Constellation taking action against anyone (other than itself) from using the ToKalon name, even in marketing conversation, maybe even in print, even if the land was known as ToKalon long before the company ever existed. 2. The...
by Roy Piper
September 11th, 2019, 2:30 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Fear And Loathing In ToKalon Vineyard
Replies: 55
Views: 3976

Fear And Loathing In ToKalon Vineyard

When I think of “terroir” in Napa, the vineyard that most comes to mind is ToKalon, in Oakville. It is clearly one of the best vineyards and certainly the biggest name. No one doubts its quality. A bottle of wine with the name “ToKalon” on it carries consistently higher prices than any other large v...
by Roy Piper
September 11th, 2019, 11:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Oversupply in the Grape and Bulk Wine Market - And What This May Mean . . .
Replies: 54
Views: 3440

Re: Oversupply in the Grape and Bulk Wine Market - And What This May Mean . . .

I have been quietly offered fruit I’ve not seen available in a long time. Two years ago there was nothing available. Now even some great vineyards are. And at prices below what I would have guessed. But I am standing pat at my current size for at least another year or so. I don’t know many taking ad...
by Roy Piper
September 1st, 2019, 3:58 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Greer 2016
Replies: 26
Views: 2339

Re: Greer 2016

I had the 2016 Greer next to the 2015 MacDonald at ReddWood a month ago. Pop and pour for each, with a winery owner from the Stags Leap District. Consensus was MacD was just a small margin ahead of the Greer, but not by a lot. Which gives you an idea how good it is. Aaron told me a year ago the 2016...
by Roy Piper
September 1st, 2019, 3:47 pm
Forum: Cellar Rats (ITB)
Topic: 2019 West Coast Weather Thread
Replies: 393
Views: 21353

Re: 2019 West Coast Weather Thread

Brix taste like 21 at Moulds and 20 at Houyi. Guessing 5-6 weeks out. No hurry. Really don't care about brix anyway. If I had to watch a number it would be pH and I am looking for 3.65-3.75 at pick. Usually find the rest falls in line at those levels.
by Roy Piper
August 19th, 2019, 1:21 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2014 Roy Piper Cabernet?
Replies: 13
Views: 1092

Re: 2014 Roy Piper Cabernet?

Corks do breathe. I can see it myself. The cork starts to harden and shrink ever so slightly over time. This allows a tiny bit of air in over many years. Eventually the corks get brittle and break when you try to remove them, when they are very old. Given a vacuum is formed in the wine when bottled,...
by Roy Piper
August 17th, 2019, 8:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2014 Roy Piper Cabernet?
Replies: 13
Views: 1092

Re: 2014 Roy Piper Cabernet?

Hey! The 14 is a bit more structured than some of my wines, but I don't think it would be any more so in a mag. I think mags last longer because the volume to oxygen ingress over time, is less. As super small amounts of air get into a 750ml, it has a larger effect than the same cork size allowing in...
by Roy Piper
July 19th, 2019, 11:15 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2017 Ayoub Anonimo vnyd Pinot Noir
Replies: 3
Views: 472

Re: TN: 2017 Ayoub Anonimo vnyd Pinot Noir

I tried to walk in their place when I was in Oregon two weeks ago but no one was home. It was a house on a hill next to a vineyard but no one was there. Use to know their winemaker back when he made wine at Stags Leap Winery, but that was 13 years ago.
by Roy Piper
July 19th, 2019, 7:15 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2006, 2009, 2015 Ridge Monte Bello
Replies: 13
Views: 1391

Re: TN: 2006, 2009, 2015 Ridge Monte Bello

Thanks for the tasting notes. Definitely surprised about 06 and 09 entering prime window - seems super early based on my older MB experience. Early to mid 90s are right about prime with one or two not yet ready (i.e. '91) Disclosure: I am cellaring all of these but have not tasted any to date. I am...
by Roy Piper
July 19th, 2019, 4:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Stranded on a deserted island - 1 wine, 1 beer, 1 spirit
Replies: 87
Views: 2849

Re: Stranded on a deserted island - 1 wine, 1 beer, 1 spirit

1976 Krug
Leinenkugel Classic Amber Beer
Longquan Daiginjo Sake
by Roy Piper
July 15th, 2019, 6:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2006, 2009, 2015 Ridge Monte Bello
Replies: 13
Views: 1391

Re: TN: 2006, 2009, 2015 Ridge Monte Bello

Thanks Roy, how did the oak fit in your tasting. I see no mention of it. Totally integrated?, there but not a factor? Tom I felt they were integrated in the MBs every vintage but in the 15, you could really feel them. I think they just need time. I find their use of American oak fascinating. It wou...
by Roy Piper
July 15th, 2019, 3:10 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2006, 2009, 2015 Ridge Monte Bello
Replies: 13
Views: 1391

TN: 2006, 2009, 2015 Ridge Monte Bello

Tried these at the tasting room in Healdsburg. I'd never had 3 vintages of MB at the same time, so thought I would post my thoughts. My scoring is, as always, more Tanzer-like. 2006 Ridge Monte Bello, Santa Cruz Mtns Medium body. Deep ruby color. Very complex and refined red currant and earthy aroma...
by Roy Piper
July 11th, 2019, 6:38 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Brut champagne dying out?
Replies: 71
Views: 3032

Re: Is Brut champagne dying out?

No, but 32g is what it use to be and shows that in the end, winemakers will change the style to sell when needed as tastes change and will sacrifice "terroir" in the process, if needed . Champagne at 32g? Were they talking about terroir back then? You are right though, 32g is not a Hershey bar. It's...
by Roy Piper
July 11th, 2019, 6:32 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Old School Napa Valley Tasting Suggestions
Replies: 56
Views: 2994

Re: Old School Napa Valley Tasting Suggestions

Forman, Corison, BV (get BV's separate clonal tasting menu, it's in a separate building from their main tasting room.) At most you are looking at $25-50 per person for these tastings. Forman is more of a "free" tasting where they hope you will purchase, but their wines are so good (and so relatively...
by Roy Piper
July 11th, 2019, 6:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Brut champagne dying out?
Replies: 71
Views: 3032

Re: Is Brut champagne dying out?

Conclusion, as always drink what you like and ignore the hype. It also puts a serious dent in any kind of theory about "natural wine" and even "terroir." 32g of sugar? Jesus. No one can taste terroir at that level. Differences between wine A and B? Yes. Terroir? Not when the sugar level is at Hersh...
by Roy Piper
July 11th, 2019, 6:21 pm
Forum: Wine 101: The Basics
Topic: Matchstick reduction
Replies: 10
Views: 1020

Re: Matchstick reduction

PS- I've always suspected that lees stirring during malo is a major cause of PREMOX in white burgs. I would be curious to know if lees stirring happens in those wines suffering from that. It's the only way I can see oxygen destroying those wines so early.
by Roy Piper
July 11th, 2019, 6:19 pm
Forum: Wine 101: The Basics
Topic: Matchstick reduction
Replies: 10
Views: 1020

Re: Matchstick reduction

Tariq touched on something that I’d love to hear from others on- he mentioned that the reduction might lead to more complexity in the future. My impression is that reduction is an aspect completely separated from the quality and potential complexity of the finished wine, and thus is not an indicato...
by Roy Piper
July 11th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: James Molesworth on Natural wine
Replies: 31
Views: 2454

Re: James Molesworth on Natural wine

Unless one is making wine off grapes grown from wild vines, in the wild... it ain't natural wine. If you have any temperature control during fermentation, it ain't natural wine. Sulfer add? Not natural wine. Used a pump for pumpovers? Not natural wine. Use egg whites to fine? Not natural wine. Once ...
by Roy Piper
July 11th, 2019, 11:58 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 247
Views: 13912

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good

I could never find a way to sign on to the thing! Even when I was a subscriber. It was harder to get into than finding Waldo.
by Roy Piper
July 3rd, 2019, 6:16 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries To Visit In Woodinville Area (Washington)
Replies: 34
Views: 1863

Re: Wineries To Visit In Woodinville Area (Washington)

Had a blast, so glad to be invited. Two wines that really stood out, neither of which I'd had before. The 2016 Andremily Mourvèdre. Wow, maybe the best American Mourved I've had, it was stylistically in the Cayuse/SQN range but with slightly less density and more fleshy mouthfeel. Really was stunned...
by Roy Piper
June 28th, 2019, 7:09 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What to buy NOW to drink 2030 onwards
Replies: 30
Views: 2075

Re: What to buy NOW to drink 2030 onwards

Nathan Smyth wrote:
June 23rd, 2019, 12:12 pm
I'd also look at putting away some Melon - typically Muscadet, Muscadet Sevre et Main, or Muscadet Sevre et Main sur lie.

I had a Pepiere Gorges recently which was a dynamite wine, and which ought to be killing it circa 2030.
Had the DePonte Melon yesterday. That might hang on til 2030.
by Roy Piper
June 28th, 2019, 7:08 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: What to buy NOW to drink 2030 onwards
Replies: 30
Views: 2075

Re: What to buy NOW to drink 2030 onwards

2018 Napa Cabs should be in their apex in 2030. Not yet in bottle. But to me most Napa Cab peaks from age 8-14. So the 18s should be stellar.
by Roy Piper
June 28th, 2019, 7:05 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Would you drink zero alcohol wine
Replies: 116
Views: 3359

Re: Would you drink zero alcohol wine

Would I try it? Absolutely! Would I spit it? Absolutely! Alcohol “carries” flavor. So the notion that “all other things like mouthfeel and aroma being equal” is a non-starter. They cannot be equal. Impossible. To a large degree mouthfeel is create by the alcohol. There is simply no way a non-alcohol...
by Roy Piper
June 26th, 2019, 7:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Will Release Offers ever move to Negotiated Pricing?
Replies: 64
Views: 2303

Re: Will Release Offers ever move to Negotiated Pricing?

In my first release I actually considered a Dutch Auction. Part of me still wonders it it might guarantee a sellout for the first winery that tries it every single year. Everyone on the mailing list bids for the release. The lowest bid to sell out the last allocated bottle becomes the price for ever...
by Roy Piper
June 25th, 2019, 4:07 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries To Visit In Woodinville Area (Washington)
Replies: 34
Views: 1863

Wineries To Visit In Woodinville Area (Washington)

I am going through Washington on my way to Montana late this week (Fri-Sun?) and was wondering what wineries/tasting rooms I should visit in the Woodinville area? I have never been to WA wine country before and I would like to take a close look and try some wines/high-end Cabs over a couple of days....
by Roy Piper
June 24th, 2019, 9:45 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Vineyards/wineries being sold
Replies: 14
Views: 2062

Re: Vineyards/wineries being sold

B. Buzzini wrote:
June 22nd, 2019, 3:33 pm
35mil seems cheap? Roy Piper wine SURE would look good coming out of there...just sayin! [whistle.gif]
I am about $34,900,000 short. [training.gif]
by Roy Piper
June 17th, 2019, 1:47 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Roy Piper
Replies: 11
Views: 3346

Re: 2017 Roy Piper

Hey David, would love to meet next time you are out. Mark is correct that I built a little more early smoothness into the 2017. Part of that was the vintage-style and part is that Moulds (87% of the wine in 2017) was already done fermenting in tank when the fires hit and because the winery was close...
by Roy Piper
June 14th, 2019, 4:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2017 Roy Piper
Replies: 11
Views: 3346

Re: 2017 Roy Piper

Anton D wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 10:24 pm
In, and an odd thing to add: Roy is so great I might buy even if I got no bottles. He embodies what I think we should be about.

Someday, I’m gonna shake his hand.
Lemme know when you are out!

Thanks, all.
by Roy Piper
June 10th, 2019, 6:55 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2011 Lagier Meredith Syrah (USA, California, Napa Valley, Mt. Veeder)
Replies: 11
Views: 696

Re: TN: 2011 Lagier Meredith Syrah (USA, California, Napa Valley, Mt. Veeder)

LM is a wine almost immune to vintages. Seems to chug along no matter what.
by Roy Piper
June 9th, 2019, 10:40 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Suit against Bryant Family alleges falling sales
Replies: 105
Views: 10412

Re: Suit against Bryant Family alleges falling sales

Mel Knox wrote:
June 9th, 2019, 11:46 am
To quote the late Justin Meyer, There is no money in selling wine but lots in selling wineries.
Also true of English soccer clubs.
by Roy Piper
June 9th, 2019, 12:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Suit against Bryant Family alleges falling sales
Replies: 105
Views: 10412

Re: Suit against Bryant Family alleges falling sales

$125 M valuation on a business that makes $1.7M in profit, doesnt seem like workable numbers, i know the land probably is the bulk of it but still. Agree but do LOL at the state of "valuation" in today's world.. Bryant: $1.7M profit.... $125M valuation. Uber: -$4B profit.... $75B valuation Tesla: -...
by Roy Piper
June 8th, 2019, 11:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2018 Napa - What are the winemakers saying??
Replies: 33
Views: 2813

Re: 2018 Napa - What are the winemakers saying??

It's a killer vintage. Crop loads are pretty big too. Better than 2016, which got very good press. Does not have the density and power of 2002 or 2013, but reminds me at this early stage of 2001 vintage or 1994 in terms of style. Alcohols are reasonable as well, most are sub-15%. I think the tonnage...
by Roy Piper
June 7th, 2019, 11:41 pm
Forum: Cellar Rats (ITB)
Topic: 2019 West Coast Weather Thread
Replies: 393
Views: 21353

Re: 2019 West Coast Weather Thread

Gonna hit 100-109F in the valley on Monday, and probably 90-100F Sunday and Tuesday.
by Roy Piper
June 7th, 2019, 11:40 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: $175+ is the new $125 in Napa, will market support ?
Replies: 162
Views: 8973

Re: $175+ is the new $125 in Napa, will market support ?

My corks and capsules also went up this year - off the top of my head I can't say by how much, but I noticed. Name a bunch of other "invisible" costs, and eventually the costs must get passed on. Not that all of a winery's pricing is cost-plus priced...of course there is also market value pricing. ...
by Roy Piper
June 7th, 2019, 7:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: $175+ is the new $125 in Napa, will market support ?
Replies: 162
Views: 8973

Re: $175+ is the new $125 in Napa, will market support ?

If someone asks me what Napa Cabs to get in the $40-75 range, I tell them to go get Carlisle and Bedrock Zins, instead. Most likely what they are looking, flavor and texture-wise, for Cab within that price range can be achieved in epic Zins by those producers.
by Roy Piper
June 3rd, 2019, 7:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A Tale of 2 1996 Cabs
Replies: 14
Views: 1397

Re: A Tale of 2 1996 Cabs

Good notes!
by Roy Piper
May 31st, 2019, 2:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Willi’s Wine Bar has finally re-opened!
Replies: 12
Views: 1151

Re: Willi’s Wine Bar has finally re-opened!

Use to live within walking distance of the new location. Will go soon! Very glad to have it back. flirtysmile
by Roy Piper
May 31st, 2019, 1:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Will the Yakima Valley AVA Ever Produce Wines that Rival Great Bordeaux Blends in Cali & France?
Replies: 75
Views: 3554

Re: Will the Yakima Valley AVA Ever Produce Wines that Rival Great Bordeaux Blends in Cali & France?

Kris Patten wrote:
May 20th, 2019, 7:01 pm
I'd like to see you make a Horse Heaven Hills or Wahluke Slope Cabernet personally Roy, with my preference being Wahluke Slope.
I need to learn a lot more about these relatively new AVAs. flirtysmile
by Roy Piper
May 31st, 2019, 12:47 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Diamond Creek Offer - Only the rich need apply
Replies: 79
Views: 4402

Re: Diamond Creek Offer - Only the rich need apply

I am totally cool chatting about wine prices, here. So below is my usual long post. [tease.gif] Napa and Bordeaux above $100 are actually in mild competition for many of the same collectors. Although there are some buyers who buy mostly BDX (I was one of those until 2002), for every one of those the...
by Roy Piper
May 29th, 2019, 10:22 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Announcing the Launch of To Kalon Vineyard Company
Replies: 37
Views: 3345

Re: Announcing the Launch of To Kalon Vineyard Company

Interesting that the cancelled building a winery on the property a while back for this brand. TKWC will be an interesting one to watch unfold. At $200, that is less per bottle than the same company sells the Mondavi To-Kalon for. Same vineyard. Makes me think they plan to ramp this production up qui...
by Roy Piper
May 28th, 2019, 11:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2001 Arcadian Pinot Noir Pisoni Vineyard
Replies: 30
Views: 1700

Re: TN: 2001 Arcadian Pinot Noir Pisoni Vineyard

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
May 28th, 2019, 11:32 am
I have the Pisoni 2000, 2003, 2005, 2007.

What shall I open soon?
The Arcadian Pisoni?
by Roy Piper
May 28th, 2019, 11:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: 2001 Arcadian Pinot Noir Pisoni Vineyard
Replies: 30
Views: 1700

Re: TN: 2001 Arcadian Pinot Noir Pisoni Vineyard

I've had the 01 Pisoni twice in the last 6 months and gave it 93-94. Color was great and it seemed in the zone. So rare to have an 18 year old Pinot from Cali in that kind of shape.
by Roy Piper
May 20th, 2019, 11:40 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Will the Yakima Valley AVA Ever Produce Wines that Rival Great Bordeaux Blends in Cali & France?
Replies: 75
Views: 3554

Re: Will the Yakima Valley AVA Ever Produce Wines that Rival Great Bordeaux Blends in Cali & France?

I would really like to consider making a small amount of Ciel du Cheval Cab someday. I am very intrigued by the Red Mountain AVA. I had an Upchurch Cab a year ago from his own vineyard and thought it was tremendous for the price of admission.

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