Which can age longer? OR vs. CA

[Jason_Hagen]

@Scott Brunson

@F.Daner

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@Berry Crawford

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Jason

[Jason_Hagen]

@rfelthoven

@Thomas Keim

Outside of the old Eyrie wines, I find that most of the new producers in Oregon are going after the riper style (ala California) and the wines tend to plateau at 8-10 years of age. that being said, I stashed quite a few 83 Pinot Noirs from Oregon and was shocked at how well they developed, and that was a big ripe vintage. The 1980 Amity Reserve is another that’s really held up well -

I disagree vehemently that the younger/newer OR producers are going for a riper style, ala California. Obviously it depends on which way one leans stylistically and what one buys, but if anything OR is setting the standard for moving away from overripe new world fruit and a smaller proportion of CA producers are following suit.

Yeah I agree the current direction is not towards a riper style. Of course there are so many I have not tasted.

Jason

[T_Schaffler]

@Jason Hagen

Pre 1998 Williams Selyem Pinot aged amazingly. Maybe the 98s. I forget when Burt stopped making the wines.

I think there is less old Oregon pinot out there and things have really developed over the years. I think this is a question to be asked in 2030.

Jason

+1

Only fair to compare wines from the relative same time period. For example, the 90s. My preference would be for OR wines versus CA currently. 94 OR is a rocking vintage as well as 98 and 99. Name 3 CA 90s vintages that are drinking well across many producers?

[Chris_Seiber]

Pretty hard to speak of “California wine,” considering the range of regions and climates. If would be like asking “how do Spanish wines age?” or “how do Italian wines age?”

[Adam_Lee]

@T. Schaffler

@Jason Hagen

Pre 1998 Williams Selyem Pinot aged amazingly. Maybe the 98s. I forget when Burt stopped making the wines.

I think there is less old Oregon pinot out there and things have really developed over the years. I think this is a question to be asked in 2030.

Jason

+1

Only fair to compare wines from the relative same time period. For example, the 90s. My preference would be for OR wines versus CA currently. 94 OR is a rocking vintage as well as 98 and 99. Name 3 CA 90s vintages that are drinking well across many producers?

I’d actually go with 99, 95 and to a less consistent but not hard to find some good ones 98 in CA.

Adam Lee
Siduri Wines