Turley Hayne Vineyard Petite Sirah

[Brian_Tuite]

@M. Dildine

@Brian Tuite

Beckstoffer also bought Library and that is the PS that will disappear from the Turley lineup.

I thought that the Library Vineyard was owned by the city of St. Helena? When did this transaction take place?

I had read about Library and Turley losing it due to Beckstoffer a few years back. I also remember the vineyard tour when we were told that the Cityof St Helena owned it. Perhaps what I read was supposed to be about Hayne but was mis-represented. Glad to remove the errant info. Thanks Mike!

[Tim_Burnett]

@Jody Smith

I hate to say it, but both the Hayne Petite and Zin are both most notable for their grace and textural quality. They are unlike anything else in the Turley portfolio. While I don’t condone the ripping up of old vines, I don’t think Zin or Pets maximizes the potential of this plot of dirt all that well. David is right, the world needs another Napa cab like a hole in the head - that said, cab seems the best conduit for this site. Maybe they need to go all Scholium and bud Hayne over to Gwertz or something? (got nothing)

Agree on all points, though I don’t think you need to buy the Hayne PS off the list. It is wonderful, but does not appreciate. You should be able to find it with some age and within $10 of list price ($75) without a problem. That’s helpful since it’s a brick for 8-10 years minimum.

The others are almost as good, for much less. They are tough to get in quantity on the list—I’m offered between 7-8 cases a year, but only get 6-8 non-Hayne PS. Library, Pesenti, Rattlesnake and the Estate PS can be had reasonably at places like Hart Davis, but you will pay a premium–at least $25-30.

All Turley PS will age well. Hayne will last the longest.

[Tim_Burnett]

At least the 2013 Turley lineup still includes a Library Petite.

[M_Dildine]

@Tim Burnett

At least the 2013 Turley lineup still includes a Library Petite.

Tim, Library Vineyard (vines planted between 1880 and 1920 and interplanted with Peloursin, Cinsault, Syrah, Mission, Alicante Bouschet, Grand Noir, Carignan, Grenache, Zinfandel and a few white varieties) is still owned by the City of St. Helena and is still under long-term lease to Turley. It should remain in the line-up until further notice!

In my opinion*, this $42 Petite blend (AG 93-95) is a distinctive gem and a screaming deal. They tend to age beautifully.

*Tegan is a friend and a non-profit colleague

[Mike_DiSalvo]

Was fortunate to have the 1999 Turley PS Hayne in July and it was sublime.

[Larry_P]

Generally I have trouble at this price point, but I went for the 2013 Hayne PS since I think it will be one for the ages. Opened a 2001 last year or the year before and it was amazing.

[Tim_Burnett]

@M. Dildine

@Tim Burnett

At least the 2013 Turley lineup still includes a Library Petite.

Tim, Library Vineyard (vines planted between 1880 and 1920 and interplanted with Peloursin, Cinsault, Syrah, Mission, Alicante Bouschet, Grand Noir, Carignan, Grenache, Zinfandel and a few white varieties) is still owned by the City of St. Helena and is still under long-term lease to Turley. It should remain in the line-up until further notice!

In my opinion*, this $42 Petite blend (AG 93-95) is a distinctive gem and a screaming deal. They tend to age beautifully.

*Tegan is a friend and a non-profit colleague

Whew (we need a wiping-sweat-off-brow emoticon). Totally agree. The challenge is keeping ones hands off them while they age, but at least they can be back-filled–I actually just ordered two Library PS–an '01 and '02.

What is the story on Hayne? I had heard '12 would be it, but that’s at least not the case. Is that safe, too?