Thoughts on 2015 Loire whites?

David,
Unfortunately I didn’t taste the 2014’s but from what was told during the tasting the 2014’s are similar in profile but with maybe a bit more stuffing in 2015

Kristof, great timing. Thanks for your input.

Fwiw, '15 Chidaine offer is up in Commerce Corner…

I was in Vouvray recently and visited Huet and Carême. Here are my quick notes/impressions.

Based on this sample of two different producers and only a few wines, the 2014 vintage seems one more for dry wines; the 2015, for sweeter ones. 2015s have more flesh and more sweetness. The 2014 are tighter.

Huet

Cuvée Huët Brut
Quince, apricot, pineapple, orange; quite opulent and tropical. In mouth, plenty of acidity; plenty of fruit. Finishes on lime and orange rind. Surprisingly fresh and acidic. Very opulent.

Cuvée Huet 2010
Immediate impression of autolysis, more complex. Apricot and nuts. Freshness, acidity and minerality. Finishes on cherry pits with plenty of bitterness. Brash and big style, not particularly elegant. Almonds. Good impression of minerality.

Le Haut-Lieu Sec 2015
Bottled for 4 months only. Showing bottling impact with banana aromas. Quince and apricot as well as apricot kernel. Good sweetness of fruit; plenty of fresh fruit expression and good acidic backbone. Expressive with haut-lieu typicality, energy, vibrancy and freshness and white orchard fruit.

Le Haut-Lieu Demi-sec 2015
Picked 3 days later than the sec (things were moving very quickly). 21 grams of residual sugar. Fresh fruit. Good acidic backbone. Quince fruitiness and length. The same acidic structure as the sec; there’s plenty of it but the sweetness and richness of fruit is dominant.

Clos du Bourg Demi-sec 2014
No malo. Quince and apricot, marmelade. Very expressive. More body and structure probably because the additional age gives it more balance than the 15s. Good length. Very open, good balance and length.

Le Mont Demi-Sec 2014
21 grams of residual sugar. Some reduction. Something dumb. Typical Mont power and earthyness. Some woolliness and lanoline. Broader. Some saltiness and minerality. Powerful and complex, excellent balance of sweetness, power and saltiness. Quite distinct.

Le Haut-Lieu Moelleux 2015
Bottled 4 months; 51 grams of residual sugar. Slight banana touch. White floral and fresh orchard fruits. Sweeter on palate than expected. Fresh fruit bowl of quince, peach, and some white nectarine. Good freshness and expression; bright fruit; plenty of sweet fruit here. Very much a baby. Will never be a big wine but will rest on freshness and verve.

Le Haut-Lieu Moelleux 2008
Some interesting but rapid evolution; typical of 2008s. 54 grams of RS. Showing secondary development on aromas but very fresh on palate. Fruitiness and acidity.

Le Haut-Lieu Première Trie 2015
Again, the banana bottling character. Dry apricot and some fresh peach. 80 grams of sugar. Very expressive and good balance of fresh fruit and honeyed character. Vin de garde.

Le Haut-Lieu Moelleux 2003
Looking quite youthful. Fruit is going toward the dry side but surprisingly fresh. Good brightness in the mouth and suprisingly balanced. Finishes a little bit cloying. Would not have picked 03 blind.

2008 Clos de Bourg Première Trie
Showing some lanoline. Some dry fruit and marmelade and some honeyed character. Rich texture. Some botrytis influence. Earlier drinking wines I would say.

Vincent Carême

Great wines. A revelation for me.

Brut 2013
Young Vines; premiere fermentation naturally plus dosage, 4 grams of dosage. Good vibrancy and energy; pear and apple. Fruit forward but balanced.

L’Ancestrale 2014
Pétillant naturel. Zéro dosage. Vines with more age; fermentation en cuvee et en bouteille. Very good precision and length. Finishes on a nutty character. Very good richness and balance. A bit of the coarse and apply character of bubbly Chenin but much superior to Huet.

Both the méthode wines seem superior to Huet’s.

Sec 2014 Vouvray
Selections de parcelles différentes. Argile et silex. Vines sur 3 communes. No malo. Elevage de 8 mois en Barrique de 400 litres (2 ou 3 ans). Expressive and fresh. Built around fresh and elegant acidity. Very good length. Pure and balanced.

Peu Morier 2014
Premiere Cote. 1.2hectare. No malo. 12 mois en barrique, fermentation en barrique. No racking, no batonnage, some lees in barrel. Assemblage in cellar; mobile bottling unit. 40 years. 35 hecto litres/ per hectare. 2013, hail damage, loss 1/4 to 1/3 of crop. Could have been decent size crop. 2014: smallish crop. Average 35 hecto for dry and 40 for sparkling.
Some rich sweet fruit, plenty of acididty, nice creaminess on the finish. Textural component is appealing and reflect the elevage but there is no sensation of wood artefact. Tanya says this wine always has that creaminess. Very elegant and complex wine. Bright fruit; plenty of acididty. Total acidity: 4.5 Residual: 2.6. Picked 5/6 days before Le Clos.

They do not control malo; if it happens it happens. Cellar underground is very cool and they have to warm it up in winter however not to the point of getting malo going. Fermentation is slow and long. Sometimes until spring.

Le Clos 2014
Very complex Wine. Quince and light apricot; peach and nectarine. Beautiful clear fruit. Finishes on spices. 22-23 hectoliter yields a year. 3.8 grams of residual sugar; total acidity, 5.4. Steep slope; southwest exposure; directly on limestone. Picked 12-13 days. Started 28 September. Clos picked in October 5th. Whole bunch pressing. Plowed by horse.

Peu Morier 2010
Showing some secondary character in the term of some agrume; sweeter nose. Very good acididty with some honeyed character. Some linen tree infusion character.

Le Clos 2012
Quite expressive; infusion, linen tree. Palate is more restrained but still very elegant. Feels a bit closed. 2.2 hectares. Low yields.

Terre Brûlée 2014 (South Africa)
Bought fruit; Swartland. 30 year old vines. Granit and shale. Sweet ripe fruit; quince and fresh figs. Riper profile; 10% of Verdelho. Riper and creamier than some of the other wines.

Tendre 2014
Blend of different blocks. Not made every year. 8-months in elevage. Quite sweet not particularly expressive. Nice fruit; quite simple. 18 grams of residual sugar.

Tendre 2015
Seems richer and riper and more balanced. 22 grams. A more complex and structured wine than the 2014.

Moelleux 2015
Dark colour. Honeyed quince and apricot. Linen tree infusion. Very good strucutre and length; plenty of acididty and length. Extremely good wine.

Nice Thierry! Thank you.

I’m waiting to get better pricing in the gray market. :wink:

I was waiting for that…