Rivers Marie Fall 2014

[Andrew_Demaree]

I didn’t take notes when we visited last month, but my wife and I both loved it.

The new chard is a very good QPR, and the 2012 Napa cab is excellent. It’ll be hard to make choices next Tuesday, as the options are all good.

[steve_hans]

@William Segui

Calistoga is some of the fruit Ramey used to get from Larkmead.

Oakville Terraces was sold and renamed Lore. That will be joining the line-up next year with the release of the 2013’s.

This is the first time we have made/offered a Sonoma Coast Chardonnay. We are playing with a few new fruit sources and wanted to check them out for a vintage or two before SVD’ing them.

Will,
Any reviews from Galloni, Spectator or Tanzer for the wines in the upcoming offer?
Thanks,
Steve

[Diana_E]

My email has numbers in brackets in front of each wine. Is that the allocation?

[CFu]

@Diana E.

My email has numbers in brackets in front of each wine. Is that the allocation?

yep

[Russ_Williams]

I still haven’t opened a SVD cab, so was wondering how much better are these over the Napa cab? Are the allocations guaranteed?

[J_Singleton]

@Russ Williams

I still haven’t opened a SVD cab, so was wondering how much better are these over the Napa cab? Are the allocations guaranteed?

I think Panek is absurdly good, from any vintage. However that was at $75. $90 gives me pause.

[Peter_Petersen]

@K e v i n B.

@Jim Karegeannes

@K e v i n B.

sad to see that nearly 20% price jump on tha cab…

Shipping and tax are included, not just the price of the wine

it was also included when it was $55…

I don’t see any mention of tax being included? Also don’t think it ever was. But shipping is and was free.

[Russ_Williams]

@J. Singleton

@Russ Williams

I still haven’t opened a SVD cab, so was wondering how much better are these over the Napa cab? Are the allocations guaranteed?

I think Panek is absurdly good, from any vintage. However that was at $75. $90 gives me pause.

Yep, the price is no longer a no-brainer and I’m thinking this money may be better spent at a particular SCM location.

[Paul_McCourt]

I’ve been buying these from the beginning, but only a handful each year. While not unexpected, the increases kinda move them out of the strong value category for me. I won’t go anywhere near the full two case allocation , but I’ll still pick up a few.

[Jim_Karegeannes]

pointless post - deleted

[Jim_Karegeannes]

@William Segui

Calistoga is some of the fruit Ramey used to get from Larkmead.

Oakville Terraces was sold and renamed Lore. That will be joining the line-up next year with the release of the 2013’s.

This is the first time we have made/offered a Sonoma Coast Chardonnay. We are playing with a few new fruit sources and wanted to check them out for a vintage or two before SVD’ing them.

Bingo!
Thanks Will.

[David_McMillen]

18-20% price increase. Wow. What used to be the best QPR in Napa Cab just got less so.

[Sc0tt_F_tzgerald]

Looks like other Paneks (e.g. Rudius) are comparably priced with some even much higher. If not $90 on these cabs, what would be comparable or better in that price range?

[CFu]

@Scott Fitzgerald

Looks like other Paneks (e.g. Rudius) are comparably priced with some even much higher. If not $90 on these cabs, what would be comparable or better in that price range?

exactly what i’m thinking.

[Jody_Smith]

@Scott Fitzgerald

Looks like other Paneks (e.g. Rudius) are comparably priced with some even much higher. If not $90 on these cabs, what would be comparable or better in that price range?

Not much. Relative to his peers, these have probably been priced below market for a while. The Panek easily competes in the 100+ space, not that I want to see it go there.

At <=$75, I’m now down to two - Drinkward and Hayfork.

Still, RM is one mailer I still get excited about seeing in the in box. The evolution of the cab and chard programs keep things interesting - can’t wait to try them all!

[ky1em1ttskus]

Can these make it to a 21st bday? I mean, obviously they can, but will they be lovely and delicious or will they taste like dirty water?

[Craig_Roush]

@kylemittskus

Can these make it to a 21st bday? I mean, obviously they can, but will they be lovely and delicious or will they taste like dirty water?

I’d be interested in people’s thoughts on this, too. I originally had a magnum in mind, which would’ve made me feel better about getting to that age, but with the price increases and budget constraints, I may need to stick to 750’s.

[PaulMills]

I am hoping to go with a couple of Napas and one or two Paneks. I need to split my money between these and Myriad though. I love Myriad and this is my first cab release with RM so I am unsure of how I will compare the two.

[jflegler]

as far as longevity of the wines, that’s all speculation because R-M is still a relatively new venture…I have put away some magnums for birth years in the 03-07 range but have settled on producers and regions that have a longer track record of making wines for the long haul

old world is the obvious answer, but in CA I think Ridge Monte Bello is a safe bet in magnum most vintages…Heitz Marthas, Dunn Howell Mtn also qualify IMO…there are others of course…I would stay away from high octane wines in general

[Mark_Y]

Are these guaranteed allocations? or fc-fs?

if guaranteed, when is it guaranteed until?