Modern style Bordeaux

[Oliver_V]

Chateau Hanteillan can be a nice, modern styled Cru Bourgeois. Not sure of the blend, but I think it’s just Cab Sauv and Merlot.

[Robert_Pavlovich]

@Robert Alfert

I think these modern wines kill the Cab Franc out of the Cab Franc. They lose the varietal character at late pick, high alcohol and new oak. I’ve tried all of the wines mentioned above, and do not detect Cab Franc in many of them. And keep in mind, Cab Franc is my thing, it’s what I seek.

Totally agree. Would be seriously impressed if you could decipher 0%, 10%, 20% Cab Franc inclusion blind.

[JeromeHan]

Wouldn’t a lot of stephane derenoncourt wines fit the bill?

[Vince_T]

@Robert Pavlovich

@Robert Alfert

I think these modern wines kill the Cab Franc out of the Cab Franc. They lose the varietal character at late pick, high alcohol and new oak. I’ve tried all of the wines mentioned above, and do not detect Cab Franc in many of them. And keep in mind, Cab Franc is my thing, it’s what I seek.

Totally agree. Would be seriously impressed if you could decipher 0%, 10%, 20% Cab Franc inclusion blind.

I was served a 100% cab franc from WA blind the other day… and it tasted like chocolate cover cherries hit soaked in vanilla and alcohol, and not in a great way. I guessed it was a Malbec!

[Brandon_R]

@Vince T

@Robert Pavlovich

@Robert Alfert

I think these modern wines kill the Cab Franc out of the Cab Franc. They lose the varietal character at late pick, high alcohol and new oak. I’ve tried all of the wines mentioned above, and do not detect Cab Franc in many of them. And keep in mind, Cab Franc is my thing, it’s what I seek.

Totally agree. Would be seriously impressed if you could decipher 0%, 10%, 20% Cab Franc inclusion blind.

I was served a 100% cab franc from WA blind the other day… and it tasted like chocolate cover cherries hit soaked in vanilla and alcohol, and not in a great way. I guessed it was a Malbec!

Do tell! What was the WA Franc?

[Marc_Frontario]

@Eric Lundblad

@Marc Frontario

clos st. julien from st. emilion will be right in your price range and wheel house, very modern, ripe, lavious oak, crowd pleasing Bordeaux

Clos St Julien is ~half Cab Franc…don’t think it’s modern styling will be enough to sway Jeff.

Like Alfert said, they drown out the Franc

Cab Franc is one of my favorite grapes, and I had no clue any was in this bottle…sad

wife loved it though!!

[Robert.A.Jr]

@JeromeHan

Wouldn’t a lot of stephane derenoncourt wines fit the bill?

All of them!

[JeromeHan]

@Robert Alfert

@JeromeHan

Wouldn’t a lot of stephane derenoncourt wines fit the bill?

All of them!

Haha that’s what I thought. Enjoyable cheap weeknight bottles every once in a while.

[Jeff_Rosenberg]

@Robert Alfert

@JeromeHan

Wouldn’t a lot of stephane derenoncourt wines fit the bill?

All of them!

Can you list a few?

[Jeff_Rosenberg]

I have been shopping around for some of the suggested wines. So far I have been able to acquire a 2010 Barde Haut. As I am on call this weekend, it will have to wait until Monday evening.

[Eric_Lundblad]

@Jeff Rosenberg

@Robert Alfert

@JeromeHan

Wouldn’t a lot of stephane derenoncourt wines fit the bill?

All of them!

Can you list a few?

I don’t know if it’s a complete list, but Jancis lists a fair number of them:

Derenoncourt – the new Michel Rolland?

[Robert.A.Jr]

Jeff -

From that list, try the Domaine de Chevalier. It’s the only wine he touches that I buy. It is mostly Cab/Merlot with 5% petite verdot.

Unless you like uber-ripe modern, I would avoid his St. Emilions.

Smith Haut Lafite may be a nice wine for you to try as well. It’s too modern for me, but nothing like his St Ems. It is 60/40 Cab/Merlot in some years, but can have minimal amounts of Cab Franc and/or petite verdot in the blend in other years. You will not notice it.

[Marc_Frontario]

@Jeff Rosenberg

I have been shopping around for some of the suggested wines. So far I have been able to acquire a 2010 Barde Haut. As I am on call this weekend, it will have to wait until Monday evening.

local shop had a handful of 2010 Barde Haut on sale $25…I grabbed one bottle…popped it, never returned for the others.
Just not a style I look for.