Cab people want to speak about it and Pinot people keep it under covers.

[Anton_D]

We don’t talk about it, as far as you know.

[GregT]

And who really thinks Burgundy and New World pinot are the same thing?

John - maybe we should start a thread about that very subject! Since when do you care about that stuff anyway? I always thought you had better taste!

[John_Morris]

@Steve L Gellman

@John Morris

Greg – There were times in the last couple of weeks when the first page was dominated by new California offerings.

This could be slightly skewed due to the large amount of mailers that were released in January

That’s kind of my point. One week California dominates, the next week it’s Barolo, this week it’s pinot.

[John_Morris]

Here’s today’s front page tally:

California wineries (not pinot-specific): 11
Burgundy: 8
Barolo/Barbaresco: 6
California pinot: 3
Bordeaux: 1
German: 1
Chianti: 1
Musar: 1

That doesn’t include threads on Rudy, retailers, shipping, etc.

[John_Morris]

For all of you grousing that there are too many pinot threads, here’s the tally of the current front page:

California cab and cab blends: 8
California - mixed types: 8
California Rhone varietals: 7
Burgundy: 6
Domestic pinot noir: 5
Barolo and Barbaresco: 5
Bordeaux: 4 (!)
Chablis: 2
Rhone: 1
Riesling: 1
Honey: 1

(Excludes threads on retailers, wine chemistry and miscellaneous musings)

[Mark_Y]

@John Morris

Here’s today’s front page tally:

Useless political BS: 50
California wineries (not pinot-specific): 11
Burgundy: 8
Barolo/Barbaresco: 6
California pinot: 3
Bordeaux: 1
German: 1
Chianti: 1
Musar: 1

That doesn’t include threads on Rudy, retailers, shipping, etc.

FIFY!

[Chris_Seiber]

@Lewis Dawson

I hate the way some folks try to limit discussion of certain producers. Shhhhh, don’t mention Henri Jouan, Francois Bertheau, Bruno Clavelier, blah blah blah.

Over the years, I’ve enjoyed discussing and learning about wines and producers that were new to me. I’ve often benefited from these discussions, which were freely and generously posted. And if I discover a gem, how selfish it would be to keep that to myself, while also soaking up all the knowledge I can from others. I feel pretty strongly about this.

I agree 100%. Nobody is forcing anybody to volunteer any comments of any sort on this board, so if you really think your avoidance of mention of some winery is going to materially benefit you (“If I, Chris Seiber, make a post on Wine Berserkers saying that Domaine X is great, then that will cause the wine to be impossible to find or cost $20@ more in the near future”), then it’s your choice. But coming on here and doing the “Shhhh” thing seriously puts the “geek” in “wine geek.”

[John_Morris]

I’ve always read those comments as tongue-in-cheek.

[Brady_Daniels]

@John Morris

I’ve always read those comments as tongue-in-cheek.

Having done this about Jouan and Hudelot Baillet, I would agree that they are 90% tongue-in-cheek and 10% a pointless struggle against resigned acceptance.