2005 White Burgundy Vintage Assessment and Oxidation Check Dinner No 2 @ Valentino February 20, 2013

24 top-rated grand cru hyphenated Montrachets (plus one Meursault) from the 2005 vintage–all served single blind

On Wednesday February 20, 2013 thirteen of us gathered at Valentino Restaurant in Santa Monica California for the second of my three annual white burgundy vintage assessment and oxidation check dinners. This year, in the eighth iteration of this dinner series, we are tasting the 2005 vintage. On this occasion we tasted 24 grand cru wines from Bienvenues Batard Montrachet, Criots Batard Montrachet, Batard Montrachet and Chevalier Montrachet – and one Meursault Genevrieres which was a “retest” of a bottle which was oxidized at the first dinner.

The first installment of the 2005 vintage dinners was held at Spago Restaurant in Beverly Hills on Tuesday February 5, 2013, where we drank 26 top-rated Chablis, Meursault and Corton Charlemagne. You’ll find my notes on the wines and the tasting results from that dinner here. 2005 Vintage Assessment and Premox Check Dinner No. 1-Feb 5, 2013 at Spago Beverly Hills - WINE TALK - WineBerserkers

This was the first wine event I’ve ever hosted or attended at Valentino, a Los Angeles area bastion of Italian haute cuisine which is well known for its 70,000 bottle Wine Spectator Grand Award winning wine cellar. (Valentino also now has branches in Las Vegas and Houston.)

Owner and restaurant icon Piero Selvaggio greeted everyone on arrival. The dinner was held in Valentino’s “Gold Room” which provided the best physical set up we’ve ever had for these dinners. The large rectangular table meant each taster had ample working space to keep all of their stems throughout the evening and the seating arrangement and nice acoustics permitted us to easily see and speak with everyone else.

This photo and the ones below were taken by Andrew Gavin, one of the attendees. Andy has several more photographs of the event on his own blog site, All Things Andy Gavin: Valentino – 2005 White Burg part 2! :: All Things Andy Gavin

I really put Special Events Director Giuseppe Mollica and the chef Nicola Chessa through their paces as we tried to plan this dinner and then ultra fine tune the menu to the flights of hyphenated Montrachets. They showed admirable patience and managed it all flawlessly. Valentino Wine Director Julian Zaragoza, who had the huge job of labeling, pouring and serving 350 glasses of wine along with coordinating the service of a five course meal, made it seemed well-practiced and effortless, though I’m sure it wasn’t.

The huge wall of stems and some of the bottles for this dinner

The food was excellent (especially the Lobster and Shrimp Risotto which was served with the third flight of wines) and the food and wine service was extraordinary. Alan Weinberg was so impressed with the Lobster and Shrimp Risotto that he jokingly begged for more and, to everyone’s delight, they immediately brought out the pot and served us all a little more. It was so good that it was exceedingly difficult for me to lay down my fork and taste the wines.

Appetizer Course
STUZZICHINI: Crudo Of Tuna, Shrimp On A Skeewer, Panelle, Frico

The Tuna Crudo with pineapple was delicious

1985 Alain Robert Les Mesnil Blanc de Blanc Reserve Champagne (en magnum)
Between medium and full gold color; beautiful aromas of sweet citrus, pain grille and brioche; this champagne had great acidity which framed some citrus, brioche and mineral flavors; the best feature was the exceedingly long citrus and minerals finish that’s the hallmark of a great Les Mesnil. My thanks to Ron Greene for another really nice champagne to start us off. 95

Flight One-Bienvenues and Criots Batard Montrachet (and one Meursault Genevrieres)

Citrus And Wild Fennel Marinated Salmon With Osetra Caviar and Chives Sour Cream

#1 [2005 Hubert Lamy Criots Batard Montrachet]
Light gold color; lightly floral and green apple aromas; round, medium bodied pear flavors with very modest acidity with a somewhat elegant finish. Not a lot of complexity here. Reminds me more of a premier cru Chassagne than a grand cru. Tied for 18th, 0 pts 92

#2 [2005 Pernot Bienvenues Batard Montrachet]
Between light and medium gold color; some SO2 (reduction) aromas with a little citrus – the wine continued to open up the longer it sat with some floral elements emerging; on the palate this is very bright, with slightly sweet citrus, a touch of vanilla (oak) and some minerals; nice citrus and minerals finish. Most of us, including me, think this is the Meursault Genevrieres Group Rank: 5th, 15 pts (1/1/1/1/1) 93

#3 [2005 Mikulski Meursault Genevrieres]
Medium gold color; very light apple blossom notes with a very odd light top note of acetone; some sweet green apple flavors, low acidity; okay, but not great. After being open about a half hour I thought this exhibited distinct but light sherry notes in the aromas – i.e., partially oxidized. The group consensus on this wine is that it is notably advanced. My judgment is that it is partially oxidized though still drinkable. [N.B. This bottle was a replacement bottle for the one which was badly oxidized at the February 5 dinner. It came from Fine Vines in Chicago, who now imports and distributes Mikulski. In the 2005 vintage, Veritas Imports actually imported the wines and Fine Vines distributed them in the Midwest. My thanks to Fine Vines for sending the replacement bottle, but except for the fact that you could actually drink this bottle, it failed miserably again.] Group Rank: Tied for 18th, 0 pts 90 Advanced/Partially Oxidized

#4 [2005 Henri Boillot Criots Batard Montrachet]
A couple of ticks past medium gold color; sweet white flowers aromas, but they aren’t honeysuckle; rich, sweet medium bodied green apple pastry flavors; notably rich and fat and slightly alcoholic on the finish. The group consensus on this one is that it is somewhat advanced. Group Rank: Tied for 18th, 0 pts 92-Advanced

#5 [2005 Ramonet Bienvenues Batard Montrachet]
Light yellow color which doesn’t quite reach gold; sweet white flowers with just a touch of honeysuckle; a mix of green apple and pear flavors with just enough acidity for balance; and incredibly long slightly sweet fruit and minerals finish is its best attribute. Group Rank: 12th, 5 pts (0/0/1/1/0) 94

#6 [2005 Leflaive Bienvenues Batard Montrachet]
Light yellow gold color; aromas of gooseberry and honeysuckle; nicely concentrated, medium bodied pear and green apple fruit; adequate but not prominent acidity; very nice balance and quite elegant in texture; a very long fruity finish with just a touch of minerality. My fifth-ranked wine of the night. Group Rank: 10th, 8 pts (0/0/1/2/1) 95

Missing Wines: 2005 Carillon Bienvenues and Sauzet Bienvenues. We never got to taste what is almost invariably my favorite Bienvenues Batard from Carillon (now Jacques Carillon). On the morning of the tasting, I received a call from Neil Napoleon, who was supposed to bring the Carillon and Sauzet Bienvenues Batards. He told me that me that he would not be attending the dinner because he could not stand to be in the same room with one of the other attendees (who I subsequently found out was his former boss). Although he was well aware of my “Seven Day Cancellation Rule” for these dinners, Mr. Napoleon refused to deliver the Carillon and Sauzet Bienvenues that he had committed to bring. I was unable to find any replacments despite spending several hours trying to do so. Obviously, Mr. Napoleon will never receive another invitation to any wine event I’m associated with. [smileyvault-ban.gif]

Flight Two – Batard Montrachet

Pan Seared Scallops With Mushrooms And Mustard Dressing

#007 [2005 Sauzet Batard Montrachet]
Medium yellow gold color; soft white flowers aromas; a very soft, elegant mouth feel on this wine where so many others are heavy or dripping with sweetness; medium weight pear fruit with a light sense of layering; this has a soft and elegant mouth feel whereas so many of the others come across as big, rich, sweet wines; a long fruity finish. Great balance here. I changed my mind twice about whether this wine was my fifth or sixth place wine of the night. Group Rank: Tied for 13th, 4 pts (0/1/0/0/0) 95

#7 [2005 Henri Boillot Batard Montrachet]
Between light and medium gold color; some light floral scents and lemon-lime citrus; this wine has very modest fruit compared to the others, but a distinctly stony character. There is just enough acidity to kind of hold this together. There is not a lot of depth here either. Quite nice for drinking right now but I would not hold onto to this wine. Tied for 13th, 4 pts (0/1/0/0/0) 92

#8 [2005 Le Moine Batard Montrachet]
Nearly full blown gold color; clearly oxidized sherry and toast aromas; on the palate it isn’t quite as bad, but it is clearly oxidized and also has some notable vanilla (oak). We unanimously agreed that this was badly oxidized. Group Rank: Tied for 18th, 0 pts DQ-oxidized

#9 [2005 Ramonet Batard Montrachet]
Medium plus gold color; rich, coconut and pineapple aromas atypical for burgundy; rich, fat and mature mid palate and a pralines and cream finish. A very odd wine for burgundy. The group consensus here is clearly advanced. Group Rank: Group Rank 16th, 2 pts (0/0/0/1/0) 91-advanced

#10 [2005 Pernot Batard Montrachet]
Between light and medium gold color; some very appealing citrus and white flowers aromas; there is some sweet grapefruit citrus fruit, good acidity and real tension in this wine; long finish of light fruit and minerals. This is one of the few wines in the two nights of tasting where there is a sense that this wine may further improve with additional bottle age. My number 3 wine of the night. Group Rank: 4th, 20 pts (1/2/2/0/1) 95+

#11 [2005 Colin-Morey Batard Montrachet]
Between light and medium gold color; some slightly reductive aromas which faded with time into white flowers and lemon-lime citrus; the reduction also seemed to close down the palate at first; with time this exhibited light pear-citrus fruit and some citrus zest flavors; this is tight with good acidity and the finish is a combination of fruit and minerals plus some phenols you can detect. This and number 10 are very different from all of the other wines so far. I think this has some upward development potential too. Group Rank: 3rd, 21 pts (1/2/2/1/0) 94+

#12 [2005 Leflaive Batard Montrachet]
Medium gold color; rich peach aromas and a somewhat exotic character; rich apple pastry flavors and yet adequate acidity, but the acidity doesn’t quite balance out the richness of this wine. I think this is a wine to drink now. Many of the group liked this more than I did, although it is quite good. Group Rank: 2nd, 25 pts (2/2/0/3/1) 94

Flight Three – Chevalier Montrachet

Lobster and Shrimp Risotto

#13 [2005 Philippe Colin Chevalier Montrachet]
Almost medium gold color; some white flowers and citrus aromas; but notably advanced on the palate with thick butterscotch and smoky flavors that will soon be full-blown oxidized. Group consensus is advanced. Group Rank: Tied for 18th, 0 pts 88-Advanced

#14 [2005 Deux Montilles Chevalier Montrachet]
Between light and medium gold; amazing lemon-lemon lime citrus and some hints of smoke; very tight, this bottle has unusually good acidity; meyer lemon and minerals on the mid-palate and continuing through a fairly long finish. Very impressive for a 2005. My fourth favorite wine of the night. Group Rank: Tied for 8th, 12 pts (0/0/2/2/2) 95

#15 [2005 Bouchard Chevalier Montrachet]
Medium gold color; concentrated lemon-lime aromas and even some minerality in the aromas (I think others thought what I was calling minerality was hints of oxidation) – highly unusual for 2005; on the palate a nice mix of slightly sweet lemon-lime fruit and a touch of minerality. The group consensus was that this bottle was advanced and a couple of tasters thought this was oxidized. I acknowledge the color is deeper than the others in this flight but I did not smell or taste anything I thought was evidence of oxidation and I have a reasonably low threshold. Group Rank: Tied for 18th, 0 pts 93-Advanced

#16 [2005 Henri Boillot Chevalier Montrachet]
Medium plus gold color; this has advanced fully mature toasty elements and a rich butterscotch element with some sherry overtones; on the palate this was has fat and had ultrarich butterscotchy flavors again hints of sherry to me. I think this is partially oxidized; the group consensus was that it was advanced. Group Rank: Tied for 18th, 0 pts 90?-Advanced/Partially Oxidized

#17 [2005 Colin-Deleger Chevalier Montrachet]

Between light and medium gold color; light reductive aromas, then faint floral and mineral scents; the palate is quite different – concentrated, full and ripe pear and lime citrus fruit, adequate supporting acidity (for the moment) and a rich minerally finish. A very nice wine but this is totally atypical for Chevalier; more like Batard on Montrachet than Chevalier. Group Rank: Tied for 6th, 13 pts (2/0/1/0/0) 93

#18 [2005 Colin-Morey Chevalier Montrachet]
Medium yellow color – not quite gold; light pear and hints of key lime in the aromas; this is really a nice wine – it is scaled down compared to the others and it’s not an ultra-ripe wine; some citrus and minerals with everything in balance; the finish isn’t quite as good as expected, but still excellent. Group Rank: Tied for 8th, 12 pts (1/1/0/0/3) 94

Flight Four – Chevalier Montrachet

Veal Scaloppine With Lemon And Capers

#19 [2005 Jean-Marc Pillot Chevalier Montrachet]
Relatively light gold color; this bottle had light white flowers and lemon citrus aromas; on the palate this is a more classical Chevalier palate, like #18 in the last flight—citrus and light minerals; really nice balance of fruit and acid, but this is way lighter than almost everything else tonight and I’m forced to really pay attention after all of these heavyweight wines; classic lemon citrus and dry minerally finish that a Chevalier should have. Group Rank: Tied for 18th, 0 pts 94

#20 [2005 Leflaive Chevalier Montrachet]
Between light and medium gold color; gooseberry and an exotic hard to place character in the aroma; pear and lemon-lime flavors in beautiful balance with the wine’s acidity; this wine has depth without a sense of being ultra-ripe; really exquisite minerals and crystallized lemon candy finish. A WOW wine for me and my clear wine of the night. Group Rank: 1st, 29 pts (4/1/1/0/2) 97

#21 [2005 Ramonet Chevalier Montrachet]
Light yellow color – just short of gold; this is tight compared to the others – very restrained lime citrus and white flowers aromas; another lighter styled wine compared to those that have come before it – lemony citrus flavors, very good acidity (acidified maybe?) and good minerality on the back half of the mid-palate; easy to identify as Chevalier; this has a truly awesome long minerally finish. Drink any time over the next five years. My number two wine of the night. Group Rank: Tied for 6th, 13 pts (1/1/0/2/0) 96

#22 [2005 Girardin Chevalier Montrachet]

Medium gold color; slightly advanced overripe fruit aromas; on the palate there is very bracing, almost jolting lemony acidity with some underlying minerality that is completely inconsistent with the color and aromas; this comes across as a bit disjointed; I suspect that this was made from overripe fruit that was acidified trying to correct it. The group consensus was that this wine is advanced. Group Rank: Tied for 13th, 4 pts (0/0/0/0/1) 90?-Advanced.

#23 [2005 Niellon Chevalier Montrachet]

Medium gold color; lemon citrus and some lightly toasty elements – almost advanced; nice pear fruit and some minerality; similar minerally finish. [N.B. After the last bottle I had a few years ago I expected this would be oxidized and undrinkable – surprise!] Group Rank: Tied for 16th, 2 pts (0/0/0/0/2) 94

#24 [2005 Jadot Chevalier Montrachet Demoiselles]
Light gold color but clearly advanced aromas; key lime pie and some minerality on the mid-palate. I really like the minerality but the fruit seems pretty developed and there are some toasty elements on the finish. The group consensus is again advanced. Group Rank 11th, 6 pts, (0/0/2/0/0) 92-Advanced

Dessert Course

Apple Strudel With Vanilla Gelato

1990 Chateau D’Yquem
This was a really impressive dessert wine (but it almost seemed a waste after the impression of sweetness from the burgundies. Burnished orange color; aromas of botrytis and tropical fruit, coconut and apricot; very viscous, rich and dense Y’quem. Very hard to judge in the context of these wines, but it is clearly awesome sauternes. 96+

Postscript statistics and comments:

Oxidation --1/25 4%
Corked – 0/25 0%
Advanced – 8/25 32.0%
Oxidized or advanced – 9/25 36.0%

Cumulative Statistics–Nights one and two
Oxidation – 2/51 4%
Corked – 1/52 2% [one corked bottle of Raveneau Chablis MDT replaced with backup]
Advanced – 11/51 22%
Oxidized or advanced – 13/51 25%

I think we set a new record for the number of combined advanced or oxidized wines on a single night with 9 of 25 wines or 36%. At this point the cumulative statistics for the two nights are 13 of 51 bottles were either advanced or oxidized, so 25%. If that number holds through night three (Feb 27), 2005 will be the new “worst” vintage ever from a premature aging perspective. I doubt that this will be welcome news in Burgundy.

My hat’s off to salute Pierre-Yves Colin. All five of his bottles in the first two night’s dinners finished in the top eight wines of each night and there were no oxidized or advanced wines from Colin-Morey. Kudos also to Paul Pernot for his best showing ever. Leflaive, as always, was a crowd favorite.

After two nights of tasting the top-rated 2005 Cote de Beaunes, the one overwhelming impression about them is the very high level of ripeness and their sweetness, with the latter referred to by French winemakers as “sucrosite.” If you do not enjoy this character in white burgundy, and some people do not, then you’re really going to dislike the 2005 vintage because it is nearly impossible to avoid in this vintage.

My other key impression, again a repeat from night one, is that the 2005 vintage is the most forward/ready to drink vintage we’ve tasted in the last eight premox series. 2005 is a fruit driven vintage and the acidity seems to range from slightly low to adequate with only a small handful of wines exhibiting the level of acidity you would expect at this stage. The acidity that is there seems quite soft on the palate – perhaps buffered by all of the sucrosite – and in many instances the impression that you get is that the acidity is sitting beside the fruit rather than being fully integrated. I know that Allen Meadows said back in 2008 that many of the wines had relatively low ph levels and that he thought this vintage would “make old bones,” but after tasting the wines at 7.5 years after the vintage date, that’s not what I taste. In almost every case the fruit tastes completely mature and in way too many cases on night two the wines were notably past their prime. Only two of the wines we tasted on night two conveyed a sense of potential for further improvement with additional aging and only a couple more suggested that they might still be equal what we tasted if left another five years in the cellar. I will be pulling a lot of corks on my 2005s in the next year.

The Batard flight was the most popular flight with the group. I liked the Chevaliers better than some of the attendees and had three Chevaliers in my top five. I suspect that the bigger, richer and sweeter than normal style of the 2005s contributed to some palate fatigue with 24 wines – especially on the last flight. I thought the Leflaive and Ramonet Chevaliers were pretty special, but yes they are more forward and developed than I would normally expect at this point on the aging curve. I definitely encourage you to pull some corks and judge the 2005 whites for yourself.

The final assembly of the dead soldiers

Thanks Don as always. Spectacular food and wine.

Thanks Don,

Great work, great lineup, great notes…

I have had my own suspicions with a number '05 GC’s several times before, seems they are more or less on the mark.

A vintage for mine to well and truly consider drinking sooner rather than later.

The Leflaive '05’s seem to still be right up amongst the top wines of the vintage, not surprised the Chevalier showed so well within the vintage context.

Thanks for posting. Very interesting. I’m surprised a bit by the H Boillot showing. Other than that, not so surprised by the others that did not show well. Your report supports my feeling of Pernot…one of the best values out there imo for top notch burgundy! I suspect your report next year on the 06’s might have a similar result…but think the 07’s will be a different story…we’ll see.

Don - thanks for all your efforts on a great night. I thought the wines were mostly approaching maturity with only a few that will benefit with age. The Leflaive Chevalier was the standout for me, with the Pernots and Colin-Morey wines also showing well. And Valentino did a great job with both the food and the wine service.

Don - thanks…as usual. Looking forward to the result on Wednesday - Feb 27.

Don, thanks for the notes. I’m looking forward to our Montrachet tasting on the 27th. As luck (bad) would have it, I opened a half bottle of the 2005 Bouchard Chevalier-Montrachet on Saturday night. The wine was extremely advanced and barely drinkable. Your notes are consistent with my half bottle, although in mine the oxidation was very noticeable. A shame, because the wine had been terrific the first few years of its life. I have a few bottles left and will drink them as quickly as my schedule allows!

Excellent notes.
Worrisome vintage. I have found the 2005 vintage to be ripe forward and bereft of a tight acid grip. They looked delicious to drink soon after bottling.

I have purchased some 2010 PYCM lets see if they deliver on the promise.

Looks like a great dinner! Too bad I didn’t have any 2005 hyphenated Montrachets =(. I do have the 07 Carillon BBM tho for next year :wink:

Great report and photos Don.
Not a lot of joy there…at least there would have been some nice golden Chardies to make the risotto with.
I can see the specials board…“Chevalier-Montrachet and Lobster Risotto”

Thanks for the great report Don. Food looks terrific. If you look up ‘Chintzy’ on wikipedia there’s a picture of that room you were in.

Best Regards
Jeremy

No doubt many of them do look like this, and I have also had bad bottles of many of the above in Dons lineup also.

Don’t think I had even one bottle of the 6 '05 Le Moines I had that wasn’t oxidized.

Every now and then though you find one that just blows you away though, and seems to defy the vintage, but overall I am drinking mine sooner rather than later…

the risotto was mindbending. After I ate every grain, I loudly complained that I hadn’t gotten any. Another diner echoed my comment. Julian apologized, ran to the kitchen and brought back a large pot of the same risotto, and fed us all another portion!

The Leflaives and Pernots rocked, but the food really shined. Overall, I was a bit disappointed by a few prior favorites, including Ramonet.

alan

I had an email discussion with a well known wine critic overnight regarding the notes above. One of the things that came out of that discussion is that I need to clarify and correct my statement about 2005 potentially being the worst year ever from a premature aging standpoint.

From February of 2006 through February 2010 I polled the group only as to those wines showing the technical markers of oxidation (i.e. detectable acetaldehyde in the aromas of flavors – what most people would describe as sherry-like aromas or flavors). I did not formally poll the group about which wines were advanced but it was frequently discussed and I included that information in my notes, but did not publish the number or percentages of advanced wines.

Commencing with the report on the 1995 to 2000 retrospective dinner that was held in February 2011 (in lieu of tasting the 2003 vintage), I changed the way I poll the group and report the results on premature aging. At that point I began tracking which bottles were advanced and which were showing technical markers of oxidation, i.e. detectable acetaldehyde in the aromas or flavors. One of reasons was that advanced wines also indicate some level of oxidation and also because we had a few serious arguments about whether a given wine was truly oxidized or merely seriously advanced.

Until tonight, I had never gone back to my notes to try to calculate the statistics on the 1996 to 2002 vintages on the same basis. I’ve now done it for the two worst overall years, 1996 and 1999 and will complete the others soon.

So, to be clear, the group’s assessment of the 51 2005s we have had so far was that 2 of the 51 bottles had the technical markers of oxidation. That’s 4%. My own assessment was that 4 bottles (3 of them from night two) had the technical markers of oxidation. That’s still only 8%. Those numbers are well below what we have seen for actual oxidation in most of the prior vintages:

Actually oxidized wines:

1996 vintage – 5/28 oxidized to some degree (18%) {Note: tasted at 10 years of age]
1999 vintage – 9/44 oxidized to some degree (20%)
2000 vintage – 6/41 oxidized to some degree (15%)
2001 vintage – 4/43 oxidized to some degree (9%)
2002 vintage – 6/64 oxidized to some degree (9%)
2004 vintage – 3/63 oxidized to some degree (5%)

So, even an 8% oxidation figure is well below the levels we enountered with the 1996, 1999 and 2000 vintages.

However, it was tne number of advanced wines which I found to be really alarming in our 2005 dinners. Going back to our two worst prior years, 1996 and 1999, and counting things the same way as we did the 2005 vintage, here’s how it comes out:

1996-oxidized: 18%
1996-advanced: 11%
1996-total: 29%

1999-oxidized: 20%
1999-advanced: 7%
1999-total: 27%

2005-oxidized: 4% [group consensus] or 8% [my notes]
2005-advanced: 22% [group consensus] or 18% [my notes]
2005-total (thusfar): 25%

So, measured in the same way, 2005 (with one dinner yet to complete) would be the third worst year in terms of the total percentage of either advanced or oxidized wines but by far and away the worst year in terms of the number of advanced wines. George Derbalian, the owner of Atherton Imports who attended the night one dinner and has an exceptional burgundy palate, thought that three more wines were advanced that were not on my list or the group’s list.

Well done Don! Informative notes and thoughts regarding the vintage. Looks like Valentino hit it out of the park with the food and service… Haven’t been there in a while but from those pictures I definitely need to go soon.

Nice, Don. Thank you.

So to sum it up, drink em if you have em !

Could the “advanced” tag be a mark of the vintage ?

Julian and the whole team at valentino Rock! damn i would have loved to be there…

I was wondering that also. Before the premox era, did very ripe vintages tend to evolve inconsistently? Were there any vintages to reasonably compare to a vintage like '05?

Doug:
I thought that the 1990’s evolved inconsistently. There were a number I remember going advanced early and I probably encountered more oxidation in that vintage than any other I can think of in the pre-premox era.

There are some parallels to 1989 in terms of ripeness levels and acidity, but I don’t remember any of the 1989’s having the dominant sucrosite that these wines do. The 1989s seemed to age amazingly evenly and many are still going strong today if they were very well stored.